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On August 15 2012 20:55 Parcelleus wrote:Does anyone know where is he training now ?
IIRC he has said that he is going to the GOM house when he returns to Korea
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fact of the matter is, naniwa shoulda taken that guy out even if he was having a conversation with people standing around him. He was 1-0 down, obviously not on his game for whatever reason, blaming the whole loss on JYP and then swearing at him (?) is just really unacceptable
naniwas attitude is becoming detrimental. He needs to lose the ego and start playing like he can, then he might get some results.
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No, Naniwa is from Hässleholm/Vinslöv. The pride of Skåne.
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On August 15 2012 20:55 Parcelleus wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2012 20:41 Shanyo wrote:On August 15 2012 20:15 Parcelleus wrote:
Yay more pathetic fluff in the WRONG thread. Get it ? (I suspect not).
ie. IEM thread to find out what happened OR make your own 'special TROLL thread'.
gogogo NANiWA , lookn fwd to GSL TIMMMMMME!!!! xD Troll:
One who purposely and deliberately (that purpose usually being self-amusement) starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers. He will spark of such an argument via the use of ad hominem attacks (i.e. 'you're nothing but a fanboy' is a popular phrase) with no substance or relevence to back them up as well as straw man arguments, which he uses to simply avoid addressing the essence of the issue.No one is attacking another person here, or calling them names. The only guy who's starting arguments, is you. If a player doesn't live up to the expectations, people will complain about it. Compare it to IdrAs fanclub. When he goes out of a tournament with no wins, people just say he's slumping/depressed and that he should quit playing SC2. There will always be criticism. Criticism isn't trolling. Learn the difference please. You know why people post it in his fanclub? Because this is a thread about Naniwa. Because fans can be worried. Because they can be critical of the player they 'worship'. As for Naniwa, it's pretty sad to see him lose like this. I couldn't watch the games, but I'll try to find the VODs. Better luck next time. 'Better luck next time' ? please. You presume my goal is to argue. Wrong. Goal is to have NaniWa fanclub with fans having a discussion. ie. The whole purpose of a fanclub. Not for haters to drop in and have a bash. TL has temp banned ppl I have reported - They seem to agree. In my effort to help achieve this goal, I accidentally reported 'Anta', please accept my apology Anta. Seems like NAniWA is not playing his best atm, perhaps the team changing has affected his play ? Does anyone know where is he training now ?
The better luck was intended for Naniwa.
Besides from that, people already tried to start a discussion, you apparently saw them as trolls.
I'm not a real hardcore Naniwa fan, I just like to see him stomp Koreans in the GSL. It's just sad to see that a player with such potential to win the event, goes out like this.
I agree with the fact Naniwa isn't performing as he used to. The team change probably affected him + the pressure on him because of his sponsorship. I thought the sponsorship was there until IEM. I don't know what'll happen to him now. His sponsership might be dropped ...
No idea where he's training now. I honestly don't know whether he's in Korea or Sweden.
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You should not whine on twitter because you lost a game, no matter the reason. Take it like a man, not like a whiny little brat.
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On August 15 2012 21:00 ThatGuy89 wrote:
fact of the matter is, naniwa shoulda taken that guy out even if he was having a conversation with people standing around him. He was 1-0 down, obviously not on his game for whatever reason, blaming the whole loss on JYP and then swearing at him (?) is just really unacceptable
naniwas attitude is becoming detrimental. He needs to lose the ego and start playing like he can, then he might get some results.
Go to a major lan and play professional SC2 and try to focus while macro/micro'ing while being touched at the same time.
I think many people are taking it to lightly. It's not like you can just look away for a couple of seconds or let people touch you while playing. You have to focus 100% in this game. Especially on an extremely high level.
And that guy he lost to. Even though he might be unknown and stuff maybe he had a certain plan for NaNiwa. A strategy he perfected to use against NaNiwa and it worked.
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What JYP did was unacceptable. He should have made sure that he wasn't playing a tournament game and IEM admins should have made sure no one touched him.
But Naniwas reaction is still childish and rude. This is a problem to be solved between those two, face to face. Not over twitter.
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On August 15 2012 21:00 ThatGuy89 wrote:
fact of the matter is, naniwa shoulda taken that guy out even if he was having a conversation with people standing around him. He was 1-0 down, obviously not on his game for whatever reason, blaming the whole loss on JYP and then swearing at him (?) is just really unacceptable
naniwas attitude is becoming detrimental. He needs to lose the ego and start playing like he can, then he might get some results.
Yeah GSL Code S RO8x2 is not any results at all right? That is a clueless thing to say.
Were any of Nanis games from this tournament worth watching? I heard most of them were dissapointing to say the lease.
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On August 15 2012 20:58 Waterflow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2012 20:55 Parcelleus wrote:On August 15 2012 20:41 Shanyo wrote:On August 15 2012 20:15 Parcelleus wrote:
Yay more pathetic fluff in the WRONG thread. Get it ? (I suspect not).
ie. IEM thread to find out what happened OR make your own 'special TROLL thread'.
gogogo NANiWA , lookn fwd to GSL TIMMMMMME!!!! xD Troll:
One who purposely and deliberately (that purpose usually being self-amusement) starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers. He will spark of such an argument via the use of ad hominem attacks (i.e. 'you're nothing but a fanboy' is a popular phrase) with no substance or relevence to back them up as well as straw man arguments, which he uses to simply avoid addressing the essence of the issue.No one is attacking another person here, or calling them names. The only guy who's starting arguments, is you. If a player doesn't live up to the expectations, people will complain about it. Compare it to IdrAs fanclub. When he goes out of a tournament with no wins, people just say he's slumping/depressed and that he should quit playing SC2. There will always be criticism. Criticism isn't trolling. Learn the difference please. You know why people post it in his fanclub? Because this is a thread about Naniwa. Because fans can be worried. Because they can be critical of the player they 'worship'. As for Naniwa, it's pretty sad to see him lose like this. I couldn't watch the games, but I'll try to find the VODs. Better luck next time. 'Better luck next time' ? please. You presume my goal is to argue. Wrong. Goal is to have NaniWa fanclub with fans having a discussion. ie. The whole purpose of a fanclub. Not for haters to drop in and have a bash. TL has temp banned ppl I have reported - They seem to agree. In my effort to help achieve this goal, I accidentally reported 'Anta', please accept my apology Anta. Seems like NAniWA is not playing his best atm, perhaps the team changing has affected his play ? Does anyone know where is he training now ? In Sweden. I think in his hometown in Malmö. He will go back to korea soon though.
Oh good, back to Korea soon.
On August 15 2012 21:00 WindWolf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2012 20:55 Parcelleus wrote:Does anyone know where is he training now ?
IIRC he has said that he is going to the GOM house when he returns to Korea
Who else is in the gOM house ? I think desRow is there right ?
I still can't believe he moved out of the StarTale house with SaSe, that seemed like the almost perfect environment. Did NaniWa have any problems with ST house or SaSe ? or he just decided to get a better $$$ deal ?
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So since we now know the whole story, in conclusion i would point out 2 things:
1. It can be badly distracting if sth weird happens while playing a tournamen match.
2. Naniwa shouldn't made this tweet regarding JYP and just take it as it was. Just fuels the shit storm.
The last question is: Why didn't he pause?
All in all fucking weird circumstances.
Shit happens. Back to work. Train even harder. Take your revenge in the booth. 
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On August 15 2012 21:21 Parcelleus wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2012 20:58 Waterflow wrote:On August 15 2012 20:55 Parcelleus wrote:On August 15 2012 20:41 Shanyo wrote:On August 15 2012 20:15 Parcelleus wrote:
Yay more pathetic fluff in the WRONG thread. Get it ? (I suspect not).
ie. IEM thread to find out what happened OR make your own 'special TROLL thread'.
gogogo NANiWA , lookn fwd to GSL TIMMMMMME!!!! xD Troll:
One who purposely and deliberately (that purpose usually being self-amusement) starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers. He will spark of such an argument via the use of ad hominem attacks (i.e. 'you're nothing but a fanboy' is a popular phrase) with no substance or relevence to back them up as well as straw man arguments, which he uses to simply avoid addressing the essence of the issue.No one is attacking another person here, or calling them names. The only guy who's starting arguments, is you. If a player doesn't live up to the expectations, people will complain about it. Compare it to IdrAs fanclub. When he goes out of a tournament with no wins, people just say he's slumping/depressed and that he should quit playing SC2. There will always be criticism. Criticism isn't trolling. Learn the difference please. You know why people post it in his fanclub? Because this is a thread about Naniwa. Because fans can be worried. Because they can be critical of the player they 'worship'. As for Naniwa, it's pretty sad to see him lose like this. I couldn't watch the games, but I'll try to find the VODs. Better luck next time. 'Better luck next time' ? please. You presume my goal is to argue. Wrong. Goal is to have NaniWa fanclub with fans having a discussion. ie. The whole purpose of a fanclub. Not for haters to drop in and have a bash. TL has temp banned ppl I have reported - They seem to agree. In my effort to help achieve this goal, I accidentally reported 'Anta', please accept my apology Anta. Seems like NAniWA is not playing his best atm, perhaps the team changing has affected his play ? Does anyone know where is he training now ? In Sweden. I think in his hometown in Malmö. He will go back to korea soon though. Oh good back to Korea soon. Show nested quote +On August 15 2012 21:00 WindWolf wrote:On August 15 2012 20:55 Parcelleus wrote:Does anyone know where is he training now ?
IIRC he has said that he is going to the GOM house when he returns to Korea Who else is in the gOM house ? I think desRow is there right ? I still can't believe he moved out of the StarTale house with SaSe, that seemed like the almost perfect environment. Did NaniWa have any problems with ST house or SaSe ? or he just decided to get a better $$$ deal ?
Desrow left a while ago.
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On August 15 2012 21:22 Anta wrote:So since we now know the whole story, in conclusion i would point out 2 things: 1. It can be badly distracting if sth weird happens while playing a tournamen match. 2. Naniwa shouldn't made this tweet regarding JYP and just take it as it was. Just fuels the shit storm. The last question is: Why didn't he pause?All in all fucking weird circumstances. Shit happens. Back to work. Train even harder. Take your revenge in the booth.
Yeah this Drama really confuses me, why would he not pause, flag down an admin and have JYP thrown out of the players area/fined or whatever they do to penalise players?
That would seem more effective compared to tweeting about it fueling the already big shitstorm around him.
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On August 15 2012 21:21 Parcelleus wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2012 20:58 Waterflow wrote:On August 15 2012 20:55 Parcelleus wrote:On August 15 2012 20:41 Shanyo wrote:On August 15 2012 20:15 Parcelleus wrote:
Yay more pathetic fluff in the WRONG thread. Get it ? (I suspect not).
ie. IEM thread to find out what happened OR make your own 'special TROLL thread'.
gogogo NANiWA , lookn fwd to GSL TIMMMMMME!!!! xD Troll:
One who purposely and deliberately (that purpose usually being self-amusement) starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers. He will spark of such an argument via the use of ad hominem attacks (i.e. 'you're nothing but a fanboy' is a popular phrase) with no substance or relevence to back them up as well as straw man arguments, which he uses to simply avoid addressing the essence of the issue.No one is attacking another person here, or calling them names. The only guy who's starting arguments, is you. If a player doesn't live up to the expectations, people will complain about it. Compare it to IdrAs fanclub. When he goes out of a tournament with no wins, people just say he's slumping/depressed and that he should quit playing SC2. There will always be criticism. Criticism isn't trolling. Learn the difference please. You know why people post it in his fanclub? Because this is a thread about Naniwa. Because fans can be worried. Because they can be critical of the player they 'worship'. As for Naniwa, it's pretty sad to see him lose like this. I couldn't watch the games, but I'll try to find the VODs. Better luck next time. 'Better luck next time' ? please. You presume my goal is to argue. Wrong. Goal is to have NaniWa fanclub with fans having a discussion. ie. The whole purpose of a fanclub. Not for haters to drop in and have a bash. TL has temp banned ppl I have reported - They seem to agree. In my effort to help achieve this goal, I accidentally reported 'Anta', please accept my apology Anta. Seems like NAniWA is not playing his best atm, perhaps the team changing has affected his play ? Does anyone know where is he training now ? In Sweden. I think in his hometown in Malmö. He will go back to korea soon though. Oh good, back to Korea soon. Show nested quote +On August 15 2012 21:00 WindWolf wrote:On August 15 2012 20:55 Parcelleus wrote:Does anyone know where is he training now ?
IIRC he has said that he is going to the GOM house when he returns to Korea Who else is in the gOM house ? I think desRow is there right ? I still can't believe he moved out of the StarTale house with SaSe, that seemed like the almost perfect environment. Did NaniWa have any problems with ST house or SaSe ? or he just decided to get a better $$$ deal ?
So basically you're here acting all robocop and mod wannabe, but you don't know anything about the player you worship. Cool, cool.
Real talk with Naniwa, you might wanna listen to it.
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On August 15 2012 21:21 Parcelleus wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2012 20:58 Waterflow wrote:On August 15 2012 20:55 Parcelleus wrote:On August 15 2012 20:41 Shanyo wrote:On August 15 2012 20:15 Parcelleus wrote:
Yay more pathetic fluff in the WRONG thread. Get it ? (I suspect not).
ie. IEM thread to find out what happened OR make your own 'special TROLL thread'.
gogogo NANiWA , lookn fwd to GSL TIMMMMMME!!!! xD Troll:
One who purposely and deliberately (that purpose usually being self-amusement) starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers. He will spark of such an argument via the use of ad hominem attacks (i.e. 'you're nothing but a fanboy' is a popular phrase) with no substance or relevence to back them up as well as straw man arguments, which he uses to simply avoid addressing the essence of the issue.No one is attacking another person here, or calling them names. The only guy who's starting arguments, is you. If a player doesn't live up to the expectations, people will complain about it. Compare it to IdrAs fanclub. When he goes out of a tournament with no wins, people just say he's slumping/depressed and that he should quit playing SC2. There will always be criticism. Criticism isn't trolling. Learn the difference please. You know why people post it in his fanclub? Because this is a thread about Naniwa. Because fans can be worried. Because they can be critical of the player they 'worship'. As for Naniwa, it's pretty sad to see him lose like this. I couldn't watch the games, but I'll try to find the VODs. Better luck next time. 'Better luck next time' ? please. You presume my goal is to argue. Wrong. Goal is to have NaniWa fanclub with fans having a discussion. ie. The whole purpose of a fanclub. Not for haters to drop in and have a bash. TL has temp banned ppl I have reported - They seem to agree. In my effort to help achieve this goal, I accidentally reported 'Anta', please accept my apology Anta. Seems like NAniWA is not playing his best atm, perhaps the team changing has affected his play ? Does anyone know where is he training now ? In Sweden. I think in his hometown in Malmö. He will go back to korea soon though. Oh good, back to Korea soon. Show nested quote +On August 15 2012 21:00 WindWolf wrote:On August 15 2012 20:55 Parcelleus wrote:Does anyone know where is he training now ?
IIRC he has said that he is going to the GOM house when he returns to Korea Who else is in the gOM house ? I think desRow is there right ? I still can't believe he moved out of the StarTale house with SaSe, that seemed like the almost perfect environment. Did NaniWa have any problems with ST house or SaSe ? or he just decided to get a better $$$ deal ?
Khaldor, Mana and Slog is living in the GOM house according to Liquidpedia.
I don't remember exactly what NaNiwa said on Real Talk, but the conclusion was that it was best for everyone if he and Sase didn't live together. I don't think that they're hating each other (Otherwise SaSe's reaction when I asked him at WCS Sweden where NaNiwa was would've been alot different than what it was), but I know Naniwa said on Real Talk that he could practice with Startale even if he lived elsewhere in Korea
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On August 15 2012 21:24 Hypemeup wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2012 21:22 Anta wrote:So since we now know the whole story, in conclusion i would point out 2 things: 1. It can be badly distracting if sth weird happens while playing a tournamen match. 2. Naniwa shouldn't made this tweet regarding JYP and just take it as it was. Just fuels the shit storm. The last question is: Why didn't he pause?All in all fucking weird circumstances. Shit happens. Back to work. Train even harder. Take your revenge in the booth. Yeah this Drama really confuses me, why would he not pause, flag down an admin and have JYP thrown out of the players area/fined or whatever they do to penalise players? That would seem more effective tweeting about it fueling the already big shitstorm around him.
I agree, imagine someone going into the GSL booth mid-game and tapping you on the shoulder - LOL - that is just ridiculous and no player should have to put up with that.
On August 15 2012 21:25 Eshra wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2012 21:21 Parcelleus wrote:On August 15 2012 20:58 Waterflow wrote:On August 15 2012 20:55 Parcelleus wrote:On August 15 2012 20:41 Shanyo wrote:On August 15 2012 20:15 Parcelleus wrote:
Yay more pathetic fluff in the WRONG thread. Get it ? (I suspect not).
ie. IEM thread to find out what happened OR make your own 'special TROLL thread'.
gogogo NANiWA , lookn fwd to GSL TIMMMMMME!!!! xD Troll:
One who purposely and deliberately (that purpose usually being self-amusement) starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers. He will spark of such an argument via the use of ad hominem attacks (i.e. 'you're nothing but a fanboy' is a popular phrase) with no substance or relevence to back them up as well as straw man arguments, which he uses to simply avoid addressing the essence of the issue.No one is attacking another person here, or calling them names. The only guy who's starting arguments, is you. If a player doesn't live up to the expectations, people will complain about it. Compare it to IdrAs fanclub. When he goes out of a tournament with no wins, people just say he's slumping/depressed and that he should quit playing SC2. There will always be criticism. Criticism isn't trolling. Learn the difference please. You know why people post it in his fanclub? Because this is a thread about Naniwa. Because fans can be worried. Because they can be critical of the player they 'worship'. As for Naniwa, it's pretty sad to see him lose like this. I couldn't watch the games, but I'll try to find the VODs. Better luck next time. 'Better luck next time' ? please. You presume my goal is to argue. Wrong. Goal is to have NaniWa fanclub with fans having a discussion. ie. The whole purpose of a fanclub. Not for haters to drop in and have a bash. TL has temp banned ppl I have reported - They seem to agree. In my effort to help achieve this goal, I accidentally reported 'Anta', please accept my apology Anta. Seems like NAniWA is not playing his best atm, perhaps the team changing has affected his play ? Does anyone know where is he training now ? In Sweden. I think in his hometown in Malmö. He will go back to korea soon though. Oh good, back to Korea soon. On August 15 2012 21:00 WindWolf wrote:On August 15 2012 20:55 Parcelleus wrote:Does anyone know where is he training now ?
IIRC he has said that he is going to the GOM house when he returns to Korea Who else is in the gOM house ? I think desRow is there right ? I still can't believe he moved out of the StarTale house with SaSe, that seemed like the almost perfect environment. Did NaniWa have any problems with ST house or SaSe ? or he just decided to get a better $$$ deal ? So basically you're here acting all robocop and mod wannabe, but you don't know anything about the player you worship. Cool, cool. Real talk with Naniwa, you might wanna listen to it.
Sorry if I actually have a life that needs tending too. Worship ? Im a fan of his play and attitude, I dont have an altar - sorry to disappoint you.
Thanks for the real talk headsup, something to watch.
On August 15 2012 21:30 WindWolf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2012 21:21 Parcelleus wrote:On August 15 2012 20:58 Waterflow wrote:On August 15 2012 20:55 Parcelleus wrote:On August 15 2012 20:41 Shanyo wrote:On August 15 2012 20:15 Parcelleus wrote:
Yay more pathetic fluff in the WRONG thread. Get it ? (I suspect not).
ie. IEM thread to find out what happened OR make your own 'special TROLL thread'.
gogogo NANiWA , lookn fwd to GSL TIMMMMMME!!!! xD Troll:
One who purposely and deliberately (that purpose usually being self-amusement) starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers. He will spark of such an argument via the use of ad hominem attacks (i.e. 'you're nothing but a fanboy' is a popular phrase) with no substance or relevence to back them up as well as straw man arguments, which he uses to simply avoid addressing the essence of the issue.No one is attacking another person here, or calling them names. The only guy who's starting arguments, is you. If a player doesn't live up to the expectations, people will complain about it. Compare it to IdrAs fanclub. When he goes out of a tournament with no wins, people just say he's slumping/depressed and that he should quit playing SC2. There will always be criticism. Criticism isn't trolling. Learn the difference please. You know why people post it in his fanclub? Because this is a thread about Naniwa. Because fans can be worried. Because they can be critical of the player they 'worship'. As for Naniwa, it's pretty sad to see him lose like this. I couldn't watch the games, but I'll try to find the VODs. Better luck next time. 'Better luck next time' ? please. You presume my goal is to argue. Wrong. Goal is to have NaniWa fanclub with fans having a discussion. ie. The whole purpose of a fanclub. Not for haters to drop in and have a bash. TL has temp banned ppl I have reported - They seem to agree. In my effort to help achieve this goal, I accidentally reported 'Anta', please accept my apology Anta. Seems like NAniWA is not playing his best atm, perhaps the team changing has affected his play ? Does anyone know where is he training now ? In Sweden. I think in his hometown in Malmö. He will go back to korea soon though. Oh good, back to Korea soon. On August 15 2012 21:00 WindWolf wrote:On August 15 2012 20:55 Parcelleus wrote:Does anyone know where is he training now ?
IIRC he has said that he is going to the GOM house when he returns to Korea Who else is in the gOM house ? I think desRow is there right ? I still can't believe he moved out of the StarTale house with SaSe, that seemed like the almost perfect environment. Did NaniWa have any problems with ST house or SaSe ? or he just decided to get a better $$$ deal ? Khaldor, Mana and Slog is living in the GOM house according to Liquidpedia. I don't remember exactly what NaNiwa said on Real Talk, but the conclusion was that it was best for everyone if he and Sase didn't live together. I don't think that they're hating each other (Otherwise SaSe's reaction when I asked him at WCS Sweden where NaNiwa was would've been alot different than what it was), but I know Naniwa said on Real Talk that he could practice with Startale even if he lived elsewhere in Korea
Interesting , I wonder what the details were of why it was best they didnt live together. Anyway, the main thing is Nani can still practice with StarTale, that is huge.
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Let's all be friends, sit around a fire in the woods and talk about our favourite NaNiwa moments while grilling some marshmallows formed to look like IdrA.
Then we set up a tent and try to sleep while the wolfs sing their anthem.
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Sorry if I actually have a life that needs tending too. Worship ? Im a fan of his play and attitude,
Says the guy that spent his day reporting and threatening everybody here.
Aaaaanyway...
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On August 15 2012 21:40 Waterflow wrote:
Let's all be friends, sit around a fire in the woods and talk about our favourite NaNiwa moments while grilling some marshmallows formed to look like IdrA.
Then we set up a tent and try to sleep while the wolfs sing their anthem.
Yey! xD
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On August 15 2012 21:40 Waterflow wrote:
Let's all be friends, sit around a fire in the woods and talk about our favourite NaNiwa moments while grilling some marshmallows formed to look like IdrA.
Then we set up a tent and try to sleep while the wolfs sing their anthem.
hehe sounds good xD
On August 15 2012 21:44 Eshra wrote:Show nested quote +Sorry if I actually have a life that needs tending too. Worship ? Im a fan of his play and attitude, Says the guy that spent his day reporting and threating everybody here. Aaaaanyway...
Pity thats not an accurate statement. hehe
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On August 15 2012 21:44 Eshra wrote:Show nested quote +Sorry if I actually have a life that needs tending too. Worship ? Im a fan of his play and attitude, Says the guy that spent his day reporting and threating everybody here. Aaaaanyway...
This post. So much win.
Anyhow, we'll see what they're gonna say about this incident. Since it was an EG player, it'll probably come on 'SoTG' or 'ItG'.
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