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On May 13 2011 14:49 TRG wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2011 11:08 evandi wrote:On May 13 2011 11:01 mikyaJ wrote:On May 13 2011 10:23 evandi wrote:
Very professional of NASL to have Idra cast Cruncher...
He's casting all 50 players buddy, get your head out of the gutter. So? What is your point? Obviously if Idra is going to insult one of the players he either shouldn't be casting at all or should be removed for this series. That's completely irrational. He has every right to express his opinion, it's no different than Cruncher expressing his.
Oh, god seriously? Good casters moderate what they say on air. Competent organizations prevent people from "expressing" their opinions when their opinions are detestable.
This is not a news organization trying to figure out what Idra thinks. We already know what Idra thinks, about Cruncher.
It is completely irrational to suggest that that sort of behavior is acceptable in any serious tournament.
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On May 13 2011 14:54 evandi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2011 14:49 TRG wrote:On May 13 2011 11:08 evandi wrote:On May 13 2011 11:01 mikyaJ wrote:On May 13 2011 10:23 evandi wrote:
Very professional of NASL to have Idra cast Cruncher...
He's casting all 50 players buddy, get your head out of the gutter. So? What is your point? Obviously if Idra is going to insult one of the players he either shouldn't be casting at all or should be removed for this series. That's completely irrational. He has every right to express his opinion, it's no different than Cruncher expressing his. Oh, god seriously? Good casters moderate what they say on air. Competent organizations prevent people from "expressing" their opinions when their opinions are detestable. This is not a news organization trying to figure out what Idra thinks. We already know what Idra thinks, about Cruncher. It is completely irrational to suggest that that sort of behavior is acceptable in any serious tournament.
how are you posting while banned? amazing.
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On May 13 2011 14:54 evandi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2011 14:49 TRG wrote:On May 13 2011 11:08 evandi wrote:On May 13 2011 11:01 mikyaJ wrote:On May 13 2011 10:23 evandi wrote:
Very professional of NASL to have Idra cast Cruncher...
He's casting all 50 players buddy, get your head out of the gutter. So? What is your point? Obviously if Idra is going to insult one of the players he either shouldn't be casting at all or should be removed for this series. That's completely irrational. He has every right to express his opinion, it's no different than Cruncher expressing his. Oh, god seriously? Good casters moderate what they say on air. Competent organizations prevent people from "expressing" their opinions when their opinions are detestable. This is not a news organization trying to figure out what Idra thinks. We already know what Idra thinks, about Cruncher. It is completely irrational to suggest that that sort of behavior is acceptable in any serious tournament.
I didn't get to see the cast, but it couldn't have been any worse than Gretorp calling barracks "bin laden killers".
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On May 13 2011 15:17 Swineflew wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2011 14:54 evandi wrote:On May 13 2011 14:49 TRG wrote:On May 13 2011 11:08 evandi wrote:On May 13 2011 11:01 mikyaJ wrote:On May 13 2011 10:23 evandi wrote:
Very professional of NASL to have Idra cast Cruncher...
He's casting all 50 players buddy, get your head out of the gutter. So? What is your point? Obviously if Idra is going to insult one of the players he either shouldn't be casting at all or should be removed for this series. That's completely irrational. He has every right to express his opinion, it's no different than Cruncher expressing his. Oh, god seriously? Good casters moderate what they say on air. Competent organizations prevent people from "expressing" their opinions when their opinions are detestable. This is not a news organization trying to figure out what Idra thinks. We already know what Idra thinks, about Cruncher. It is completely irrational to suggest that that sort of behavior is acceptable in any serious tournament. I didn't get to see the cast, but it couldn't have been any worse than Gretorp calling barracks "bin laden killers".
are you serious? hes making a joke about a world hated terrorist by playing on the president's name. Versus one of the casters of a tournament trashing a player .
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GGs vs. Ensnare Cruncher. Classic.
And I totally agree with Evandi, very unprofessional. Having a caster call a competitor "a flash in the pan" and fat, etc. and then not saying. "No, greg. stop it. Act like an adult" just makes NASL adopt his statements and that makes their organization fail and they look like a "flash in the pan."
Also -to try and say that it's free speech is not relevant. It's unprofessional. Imagine if an announcer at a MLB game said, "I saw this player at a bar, and his wife was an ugly, dumb, ____". Think they'd put up with it? Would you?
greg/idra acts like a spoiled jealous little girl when he sees Cruncher play. On some level, I guess I enjoyed seeing the awkward uncomfortable look on greg's bug-life face when Cruncher out-micro'd and out-played Ensnare but ultimately, it is just disappointing. I'm not watching NASL anymore.
Respect for Cruncher. I will just watch his steam and replays. Peace.
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sign me up. Like his play and way of talking
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On May 14 2011 04:10 Mob.scene wrote:
GGs vs. Ensnare Cruncher. Classic.
And I totally agree with Evandi, very unprofessional. Having a caster call a competitor "a flash in the pan" and fat, etc. and then not saying. "No, greg. stop it. Act like an adult" just makes NASL adopt his statements and that makes their organization fail and they look like a "flash in the pan."
Also -to try and say that it's free speech is not relevant. It's unprofessional. Imagine if an announcer at a MLB game said, "I saw this player at a bar, and his wife was an ugly, dumb, ____". Think they'd put up with it? Would you?
greg/idra acts like a spoiled jealous little girl when he sees Cruncher play. On some level, I guess I enjoyed seeing the awkward uncomfortable look on greg's bug-life face when Cruncher out-micro'd and out-played Ensnare but ultimately, it is just disappointing. I'm not watching NASL anymore.
Respect for Cruncher. I will just watch his steam and replays. Peace.
They wont miss you
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Excellent game vs Ensnare.
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well beside the introduction idra did a good casting of the matches, even admitting that cruncher played well , the introduction was to add some spice in the show as it was intended but the overall casting was hateful or nasty towards cruncher
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Sign me in cheese king ftw !
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On May 13 2011 14:54 evandi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2011 14:49 TRG wrote:On May 13 2011 11:08 evandi wrote:On May 13 2011 11:01 mikyaJ wrote:On May 13 2011 10:23 evandi wrote:
Very professional of NASL to have Idra cast Cruncher...
He's casting all 50 players buddy, get your head out of the gutter. So? What is your point? Obviously if Idra is going to insult one of the players he either shouldn't be casting at all or should be removed for this series. That's completely irrational. He has every right to express his opinion, it's no different than Cruncher expressing his. Oh, god seriously? Good casters moderate what they say on air. Competent organizations prevent people from "expressing" their opinions when their opinions are detestable. This is not a news organization trying to figure out what Idra thinks. We already know what Idra thinks, about Cruncher. It is completely irrational to suggest that that sort of behavior is acceptable in any serious tournament.
If you believe this you should probably stop supporting the NASL by watching it. And one day when you start your own league you will instruct your casters not to do it. But in terms of real criticisms you have to answer is it:
bad for the league?
bad for the organizations?
bad for eSports?
I think if you answer honestly you would be hard-pressed to answer yes honestly to any of those questions. Controversy is good, lack of controversy is boring.
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Also, to those who comment on professionalism, I cite:
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=168066
"Professionalism: Mostly an Illusion by djWHEAT"
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I'm sure this fan club will go a long way, supporting one of the most hated players in eSports.
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On May 14 2011 05:48 GeneralissimoNero wrote:
I'm sure this fan club will go a long way, supporting one of the most hated players in eSports.
I don't know why people hate him, he seems to have become the bad guy ... I'm not sure its justified.
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On May 14 2011 05:54 jax1492 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2011 05:48 GeneralissimoNero wrote:
I'm sure this fan club will go a long way, supporting one of the most hated players in eSports. I don't know why people hate him, he seems to have become the bad guy ... I'm not sure its justified.
When someone BM's the most popular and famous foreigner out there right now people get pretty pissed off. It's not a case of one random thing in a tournament, it's a case of him just trying to piss off Idra as much as possible and stream snipe him and all that in every waking moment of his life. That's probably why people hate him, myself included.
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That's the main reason for sure, another one is that he perfectly represents what a lot of people hate about protoss.
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On May 14 2011 05:54 jax1492 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2011 05:48 GeneralissimoNero wrote:
I'm sure this fan club will go a long way, supporting one of the most hated players in eSports. I don't know why people hate him, he seems to have become the bad guy ... I'm not sure its justified.
Because this isn't actually a Cruncher fan club. It's an Idra-hate club. The fans that don't like IdrA are trying to rally behind Cruncher, so all the hate gets directed at him.
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On May 14 2011 06:15 GeneralissimoNero wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2011 05:54 jax1492 wrote:On May 14 2011 05:48 GeneralissimoNero wrote:
I'm sure this fan club will go a long way, supporting one of the most hated players in eSports. I don't know why people hate him, he seems to have become the bad guy ... I'm not sure its justified. When someone BM's the most popular and famous foreigner out there right now people get pretty pissed off. It's not a case of one random thing in a tournament, it's a case of him just trying to piss off Idra as much as possible and stream snipe him and all that in every waking moment of his life. That's probably why people hate him, myself included.
The irony is awe inspiring.
Also, I haven't ever seen cruncher say anything negative to or about Idra (which frankly is amazing).
"every waking moment of his life". lol, what a joke
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On May 14 2011 06:27 1Eris1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2011 05:54 jax1492 wrote:On May 14 2011 05:48 GeneralissimoNero wrote:
I'm sure this fan club will go a long way, supporting one of the most hated players in eSports. I don't know why people hate him, he seems to have become the bad guy ... I'm not sure its justified. Because this isn't actually a Cruncher fan club. It's an Idra-hate club. The fans that don't like IdrA are trying to rally behind Cruncher, so all the hate gets directed at him.
I happen to love idra's play, and I love his analysis. I certainly don't hate him. But he can be a ridiculous whiny asshole, and a lot of his fans tend to be equally whiny and even more ridiculous.
Also, cruncher is a great player, and he's demonstrated it time and time again.
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People are getting so uptight...Every little thing is HUGE bm nowadays. It seems like everyone wont be happy till we are all sitting around a campfire singing Kumbaya.
Alot of these peoples heads would expload if they had to play on the old USeast and USwest bnet, now THAT was bm.
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On May 14 2011 06:29 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2011 06:15 GeneralissimoNero wrote:On May 14 2011 05:54 jax1492 wrote:On May 14 2011 05:48 GeneralissimoNero wrote:
I'm sure this fan club will go a long way, supporting one of the most hated players in eSports. I don't know why people hate him, he seems to have become the bad guy ... I'm not sure its justified. When someone BM's the most popular and famous foreigner out there right now people get pretty pissed off. It's not a case of one random thing in a tournament, it's a case of him just trying to piss off Idra as much as possible and stream snipe him and all that in every waking moment of his life. That's probably why people hate him, myself included. The irony is awe inspiring. Also, I haven't ever seen cruncher say anything negative to or about Idra (which frankly is amazing). "every waking moment of his life". lol, what a joke
Go read the post game interview with crunch after his match with Idra in the TSL. Also do you watch his stream? Usually says some BM stuff ,toward idra, on there but not a big deal its his stream can say what he wants.
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