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This isn't a thread about Artosis.
evandi
Profile Joined June 2008
United States266 Posts
May 13 2011 05:54 GMT
#561
On May 13 2011 14:49 TRG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2011 11:08 evandi wrote:
On May 13 2011 11:01 mikyaJ wrote:
On May 13 2011 10:23 evandi wrote:
Very professional of NASL to have Idra cast Cruncher...


He's casting all 50 players buddy, get your head out of the gutter.


So? What is your point? Obviously if Idra is going to insult one of the players he either shouldn't be casting at all or should be removed for this series.

That's completely irrational. He has every right to express his opinion, it's no different than Cruncher expressing his.


Oh, god seriously? Good casters moderate what they say on air. Competent organizations prevent people from "expressing" their opinions when their opinions are detestable.

This is not a news organization trying to figure out what Idra thinks. We already know what Idra thinks, about Cruncher.

It is completely irrational to suggest that that sort of behavior is acceptable in any serious tournament.

beartatoe
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1 Post
May 13 2011 06:08 GMT
#562
On May 13 2011 14:54 evandi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2011 14:49 TRG wrote:
On May 13 2011 11:08 evandi wrote:
On May 13 2011 11:01 mikyaJ wrote:
On May 13 2011 10:23 evandi wrote:
Very professional of NASL to have Idra cast Cruncher...


He's casting all 50 players buddy, get your head out of the gutter.


So? What is your point? Obviously if Idra is going to insult one of the players he either shouldn't be casting at all or should be removed for this series.

That's completely irrational. He has every right to express his opinion, it's no different than Cruncher expressing his.


Oh, god seriously? Good casters moderate what they say on air. Competent organizations prevent people from "expressing" their opinions when their opinions are detestable.

This is not a news organization trying to figure out what Idra thinks. We already know what Idra thinks, about Cruncher.

It is completely irrational to suggest that that sort of behavior is acceptable in any serious tournament.



how are you posting while banned? amazing.
Swineflew
Profile Joined October 2010
United States61 Posts
May 13 2011 06:17 GMT
#563
On May 13 2011 14:54 evandi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2011 14:49 TRG wrote:
On May 13 2011 11:08 evandi wrote:
On May 13 2011 11:01 mikyaJ wrote:
On May 13 2011 10:23 evandi wrote:
Very professional of NASL to have Idra cast Cruncher...


He's casting all 50 players buddy, get your head out of the gutter.


So? What is your point? Obviously if Idra is going to insult one of the players he either shouldn't be casting at all or should be removed for this series.

That's completely irrational. He has every right to express his opinion, it's no different than Cruncher expressing his.


Oh, god seriously? Good casters moderate what they say on air. Competent organizations prevent people from "expressing" their opinions when their opinions are detestable.

This is not a news organization trying to figure out what Idra thinks. We already know what Idra thinks, about Cruncher.

It is completely irrational to suggest that that sort of behavior is acceptable in any serious tournament.



I didn't get to see the cast, but it couldn't have been any worse than Gretorp calling barracks "bin laden killers".
Nothingtosay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States875 Posts
May 13 2011 13:44 GMT
#564
On May 13 2011 15:17 Swineflew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2011 14:54 evandi wrote:
On May 13 2011 14:49 TRG wrote:
On May 13 2011 11:08 evandi wrote:
On May 13 2011 11:01 mikyaJ wrote:
On May 13 2011 10:23 evandi wrote:
Very professional of NASL to have Idra cast Cruncher...


He's casting all 50 players buddy, get your head out of the gutter.


So? What is your point? Obviously if Idra is going to insult one of the players he either shouldn't be casting at all or should be removed for this series.

That's completely irrational. He has every right to express his opinion, it's no different than Cruncher expressing his.


Oh, god seriously? Good casters moderate what they say on air. Competent organizations prevent people from "expressing" their opinions when their opinions are detestable.

This is not a news organization trying to figure out what Idra thinks. We already know what Idra thinks, about Cruncher.

It is completely irrational to suggest that that sort of behavior is acceptable in any serious tournament.



I didn't get to see the cast, but it couldn't have been any worse than Gretorp calling barracks "bin laden killers".

are you serious? hes making a joke about a world hated terrorist by playing on the president's name. Versus one of the casters of a tournament trashing a player .
[QUOTE][B]On October 16 2011 13:00 Anihc wrote:[/B] No, you're the one who's wrong. Nothingtosay got it right.[/QUOTE]:3
Mob.scene
Profile Joined May 2011
16 Posts
May 13 2011 19:10 GMT
#565
GGs vs. Ensnare Cruncher. Classic.

And I totally agree with Evandi, very unprofessional. Having a caster call a competitor "a flash in the pan" and fat, etc. and then not saying. "No, greg. stop it. Act like an adult" just makes NASL adopt his statements and that makes their organization fail and they look like a "flash in the pan."

Also -to try and say that it's free speech is not relevant. It's unprofessional. Imagine if an announcer at a MLB game said, "I saw this player at a bar, and his wife was an ugly, dumb, ____". Think they'd put up with it? Would you?

greg/idra acts like a spoiled jealous little girl when he sees Cruncher play. On some level, I guess I enjoyed seeing the awkward uncomfortable look on greg's bug-life face when Cruncher out-micro'd and out-played Ensnare but ultimately, it is just disappointing. I'm not watching NASL anymore.

Respect for Cruncher. I will just watch his steam and replays. Peace.
ShineSun
Profile Joined April 2009
United States15 Posts
May 13 2011 19:47 GMT
#566
sign me up. Like his play and way of talking
gosublade
Profile Joined May 2011
632 Posts
May 13 2011 20:02 GMT
#567
On May 14 2011 04:10 Mob.scene wrote:
GGs vs. Ensnare Cruncher. Classic.

And I totally agree with Evandi, very unprofessional. Having a caster call a competitor "a flash in the pan" and fat, etc. and then not saying. "No, greg. stop it. Act like an adult" just makes NASL adopt his statements and that makes their organization fail and they look like a "flash in the pan."

Also -to try and say that it's free speech is not relevant. It's unprofessional. Imagine if an announcer at a MLB game said, "I saw this player at a bar, and his wife was an ugly, dumb, ____". Think they'd put up with it? Would you?

greg/idra acts like a spoiled jealous little girl when he sees Cruncher play. On some level, I guess I enjoyed seeing the awkward uncomfortable look on greg's bug-life face when Cruncher out-micro'd and out-played Ensnare but ultimately, it is just disappointing. I'm not watching NASL anymore.

Respect for Cruncher. I will just watch his steam and replays. Peace.


They wont miss you
Not even death can save you from me.
butchji
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1531 Posts
May 13 2011 20:09 GMT
#568
Excellent game vs Ensnare.
darlhet
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy548 Posts
May 13 2011 20:23 GMT
#569
well beside the introduction idra did a good casting of the matches, even admitting that cruncher played well , the introduction was to add some spice in the show as it was intended but the overall casting was hateful or nasty towards cruncher
"i feel like im wasting your time" qxc to whitera after getting crushed 0-4
Lomo
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany137 Posts
May 13 2011 20:35 GMT
#570
Sign me in cheese king ftw !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pOEvN9n9MI&feature=related
MoreFaSho
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1427 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-13 20:46:17
May 13 2011 20:44 GMT
#571
On May 13 2011 14:54 evandi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2011 14:49 TRG wrote:
On May 13 2011 11:08 evandi wrote:
On May 13 2011 11:01 mikyaJ wrote:
On May 13 2011 10:23 evandi wrote:
Very professional of NASL to have Idra cast Cruncher...


He's casting all 50 players buddy, get your head out of the gutter.


So? What is your point? Obviously if Idra is going to insult one of the players he either shouldn't be casting at all or should be removed for this series.

That's completely irrational. He has every right to express his opinion, it's no different than Cruncher expressing his.


Oh, god seriously? Good casters moderate what they say on air. Competent organizations prevent people from "expressing" their opinions when their opinions are detestable.

This is not a news organization trying to figure out what Idra thinks. We already know what Idra thinks, about Cruncher.

It is completely irrational to suggest that that sort of behavior is acceptable in any serious tournament.


If you believe this you should probably stop supporting the NASL by watching it. And one day when you start your own league you will instruct your casters not to do it. But in terms of real criticisms you have to answer is it:
bad for the league?
bad for the organizations?
bad for eSports?

I think if you answer honestly you would be hard-pressed to answer yes honestly to any of those questions. Controversy is good, lack of controversy is boring.

Edit:
Also, to those who comment on professionalism, I cite:
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=168066
"Professionalism: Mostly an Illusion by djWHEAT"
I always try to shield slam face, just to make sure it doesnt work
GeneralissimoNero
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States236 Posts
May 13 2011 20:48 GMT
#572
I'm sure this fan club will go a long way, supporting one of the most hated players in eSports.
I will cheer for a Slayers Terran over any other player.
jax1492
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1632 Posts
May 13 2011 20:54 GMT
#573
On May 14 2011 05:48 GeneralissimoNero wrote:
I'm sure this fan club will go a long way, supporting one of the most hated players in eSports.


I don't know why people hate him, he seems to have become the bad guy ... I'm not sure its justified.
GeneralissimoNero
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States236 Posts
May 13 2011 21:15 GMT
#574
On May 14 2011 05:54 jax1492 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 05:48 GeneralissimoNero wrote:
I'm sure this fan club will go a long way, supporting one of the most hated players in eSports.


I don't know why people hate him, he seems to have become the bad guy ... I'm not sure its justified.

When someone BM's the most popular and famous foreigner out there right now people get pretty pissed off. It's not a case of one random thing in a tournament, it's a case of him just trying to piss off Idra as much as possible and stream snipe him and all that in every waking moment of his life. That's probably why people hate him, myself included.
I will cheer for a Slayers Terran over any other player.
blackone
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1314 Posts
May 13 2011 21:27 GMT
#575
That's the main reason for sure, another one is that he perfectly represents what a lot of people hate about protoss.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
May 13 2011 21:27 GMT
#576
On May 14 2011 05:54 jax1492 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 05:48 GeneralissimoNero wrote:
I'm sure this fan club will go a long way, supporting one of the most hated players in eSports.


I don't know why people hate him, he seems to have become the bad guy ... I'm not sure its justified.



Because this isn't actually a Cruncher fan club. It's an Idra-hate club. The fans that don't like IdrA are trying to rally behind Cruncher, so all the hate gets directed at him.
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 13 2011 21:29 GMT
#577
On May 14 2011 06:15 GeneralissimoNero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 05:54 jax1492 wrote:
On May 14 2011 05:48 GeneralissimoNero wrote:
I'm sure this fan club will go a long way, supporting one of the most hated players in eSports.


I don't know why people hate him, he seems to have become the bad guy ... I'm not sure its justified.

When someone BM's the most popular and famous foreigner out there right now people get pretty pissed off. It's not a case of one random thing in a tournament, it's a case of him just trying to piss off Idra as much as possible and stream snipe him and all that in every waking moment of his life. That's probably why people hate him, myself included.


The irony is awe inspiring.

Also, I haven't ever seen cruncher say anything negative to or about Idra (which frankly is amazing).

"every waking moment of his life". lol, what a joke
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 13 2011 21:31 GMT
#578
On May 14 2011 06:27 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 05:54 jax1492 wrote:
On May 14 2011 05:48 GeneralissimoNero wrote:
I'm sure this fan club will go a long way, supporting one of the most hated players in eSports.


I don't know why people hate him, he seems to have become the bad guy ... I'm not sure its justified.



Because this isn't actually a Cruncher fan club. It's an Idra-hate club. The fans that don't like IdrA are trying to rally behind Cruncher, so all the hate gets directed at him.


I happen to love idra's play, and I love his analysis. I certainly don't hate him. But he can be a ridiculous whiny asshole, and a lot of his fans tend to be equally whiny and even more ridiculous.

Also, cruncher is a great player, and he's demonstrated it time and time again.
BandonBanshee
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada437 Posts
May 13 2011 21:47 GMT
#579
People are getting so uptight...Every little thing is HUGE bm nowadays. It seems like everyone wont be happy till we are all sitting around a campfire singing Kumbaya.
Alot of these peoples heads would expload if they had to play on the old USeast and USwest bnet, now THAT was bm.
jimmyjangles
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States22 Posts
May 13 2011 21:54 GMT
#580
On May 14 2011 06:29 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 06:15 GeneralissimoNero wrote:
On May 14 2011 05:54 jax1492 wrote:
On May 14 2011 05:48 GeneralissimoNero wrote:
I'm sure this fan club will go a long way, supporting one of the most hated players in eSports.


I don't know why people hate him, he seems to have become the bad guy ... I'm not sure its justified.

When someone BM's the most popular and famous foreigner out there right now people get pretty pissed off. It's not a case of one random thing in a tournament, it's a case of him just trying to piss off Idra as much as possible and stream snipe him and all that in every waking moment of his life. That's probably why people hate him, myself included.


The irony is awe inspiring.

Also, I haven't ever seen cruncher say anything negative to or about Idra (which frankly is amazing).

"every waking moment of his life". lol, what a joke


Go read the post game interview with crunch after his match with Idra in the TSL. Also do you watch his stream? Usually says some BM stuff ,toward idra, on there but not a big deal its his stream can say what he wants.
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