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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12907 Posts
February 18 2013 16:40 GMT
#7801
On February 18 2013 21:18 opterown wrote:
well, MKP did win 2 MLGs playing pretty much the same way each one haha

Not at all. He played different playstyles in almost every game, with 2 different 2 rax, biomech, marine tank, etc in his series vs DRG.

There is no standard in HotS and if you play a bo5 playing standard everygame you probably won't win and are not supposed to win, especially as a terran.

WriterMaru
pidj
Profile Joined December 2012
France47 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 17:08:08
February 18 2013 17:04 GMT
#7802
On February 18 2013 19:39 TeeTS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 06:55 pidj wrote:
On February 18 2013 04:37 berndniph wrote:
On February 18 2013 00:35 monkybone wrote:
On February 17 2013 22:53 berndniph wrote:
it's so frustrating seeing mkp loose and loose and loose again cause of no scout ...

seriously ... why ?


With the fast 3rd CC the story here was just MKP blindly assuming no timing attack. It wouldn't have made any difference had he scouted it or not.

Had he gone for a more standard build he probably would have scouted with some marine pressure, because that's when you can play reactionary.


why is he taking such a risk against a inferior player. i just don't get it


in a series you have to change your play style moreover in terran who's the most diffuclt race to play with. And by changing and betting on some build with mindgame you can have major advantage just by chosing the correct one, but you can lose. The most common exemple is the gsl final where MKP in the last game went for 2raks and lost but i think t was a good choice in according with the mindgame because most of the time the player are not not waiting this bo on this position. like poker :p.


this is bullshit. if you play standard and solid well enough, you can beat everyone. It's not like a gateway allin is a new way of playing that nobody is used to. If your TvP opening autoloses to a gateway allin, then you have to make sure your opponent doesn't go for it, or it's just a really bad build.


This is not bullshit this is his playstyle, there are safe player and aggressiv player. whatever i don't know why you're saying this cause mkp is not in according with you but with me : X.

Teaja play many different style, like going banshee 2 raks vs protoss even hélion.
Of course if you don't watch the starcraft 2 scene or you watch it seriously you can see that on 100 games he' is not going to use 100 different Bos but at least a lot of.
<3 MKP
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
February 18 2013 17:19 GMT
#7803
Bomber plays all his TvP's the same way and has the best TvP, so I dunno.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12907 Posts
February 18 2013 17:23 GMT
#7804
On February 19 2013 02:19 Dodgin wrote:
Bomber plays all his TvP's the same way and has the best TvP, so I dunno.

I have ladder replays of him and he doesn't do the same builds, I don't recall some of his recent TvP series but I'm pretty sure that he never uses the same BO, or the exact same timings. In TvP though if you find a way of playing that works you stick to it, it's kind up to your personal taste how you play this MU.
WriterMaru
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
February 18 2013 19:43 GMT
#7805
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TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 22:24:36
February 18 2013 22:20 GMT
#7806
you don't get the point, do you? There is nothing wrong with mixing up strategies, but there is with playing builds that auto lose to very common aggression. And gateway aggression is the most common pressure since the beta of SC2.

edit: and especially against a player like Choya, who is known for doing nothing but allins, playing that overly greedy is just plain stupid or arrogant.
14fighter
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States226 Posts
February 18 2013 22:23 GMT
#7807
MKP plays both bio and mech, and has a wide array of cheeses, I don't think the fact is he doesn't have builds. The thing is he plays too greedy sometimes and doesn't have enough defenses. I think he'll do a lot better in Hots with hellbats and widow mines. As long as he can split too, with the projectile fungal he'll do a lot better with just bio. I won't be surprised if he wins something immediately if he figures his shit out.
MangoSnap
Profile Joined July 2012
United States184 Posts
February 18 2013 23:22 GMT
#7808
I think MKP is a player who will be able to take advantage of the mid-game strength terran has in HoTS. TvZ is now arguably his strongest matchup, and I think with a few tweaks, his TvP will get better.
bearzly
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada184 Posts
February 18 2013 23:29 GMT
#7809
Watching idra hit MKP on stream just makes my day ^_^

I was pretty disappointed with the way MKP played against choya. There was absolutely no reason to go for a fast third CC, and that kind of decision costs him a lot of games
MangoSnap
Profile Joined July 2012
United States184 Posts
February 18 2013 23:31 GMT
#7810
On February 19 2013 08:29 bearzly wrote:
Watching idra hit MKP on stream just makes my day ^_^

I was pretty disappointed with the way MKP played against choya. There was absolutely no reason to go for a fast third CC, and that kind of decision costs him a lot of games

lol at idra's gg timing
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
February 19 2013 00:16 GMT
#7811
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 19 2013 00:18 GMT
#7812
On February 19 2013 09:16 monkybone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2013 08:29 bearzly wrote:
Watching idra hit MKP on stream just makes my day ^_^

I was pretty disappointed with the way MKP played against choya. There was absolutely no reason to go for a fast third CC, and that kind of decision costs him a lot of games


That I want to see, you don't remember the stream day and approximate timing by any chance?

according to MKP's match history, 3 times between 30 min and 1 hour ago. IdrA isn't saving his VODs anymore because of tournaments or something
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bearzly
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada184 Posts
February 19 2013 00:20 GMT
#7813
On February 19 2013 09:16 monkybone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2013 08:29 bearzly wrote:
Watching idra hit MKP on stream just makes my day ^_^

I was pretty disappointed with the way MKP played against choya. There was absolutely no reason to go for a fast third CC, and that kind of decision costs him a lot of games


That I want to see, you don't remember the stream day and approximate timing by any chance?


They played an hour ago but idra doesnt save vods anymore.

Game 1 idra immediately rage quitted when he hit MKP
Game 2 idra rage quitted because he failed a baneling all in after losing a couple drones to reapers
Game 3 they played a normal game of ling/bling/muta vs marine tank but idra rage quitted in the end
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
February 19 2013 00:27 GMT
#7814
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MangoSnap
Profile Joined July 2012
United States184 Posts
February 19 2013 00:58 GMT
#7815
MKP was really smacking idra down in that third game. 2 base hellbat, marine, marauder to kill the third hatch, then marine tank to finish him off.
Chance.Gilbert
Profile Joined October 2012
Switzerland14 Posts
February 19 2013 14:41 GMT
#7816
MKP is def. my favorite Terran. Please sign me up! :D
"That's the problem with players like this. They don't actually know how to play, so, it's hard to predict what they're doing." - Greg "IdrA" Fields
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12907 Posts
February 19 2013 19:01 GMT
#7817
Wow suddenly when it's not cross server and on a game where zerg isn't utterly favored in TvZ IdrA doesn't win vs MKP anymore. So weird... oh wait.

I wonder how he has so many fans while ragequitting everytime, having overall a shit mentality and being bad at the game at the same time. At least MoMaN has a lot of fans despite not being a top french player but he is very funny/sympathic and so on so I get it, but IdrA?

Or maybe it's solely because of his BW past.
WriterMaru
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 19 2013 20:48 GMT
#7818
man mkp lost to finale, he sucks at wol now

i really hope he can take out yoda today, that's the only wol thing left relevant for him
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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LMT
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany27 Posts
February 19 2013 20:52 GMT
#7819
why did he play against him?
I thought he was already qualified.
MKP|Dimaga|Jaedong|Creator|Maru|Byun|BBong
CTIA
Profile Joined November 2012
France117 Posts
February 19 2013 21:05 GMT
#7820
On February 20 2013 04:01 Poopi wrote:
Wow suddenly when it's not cross server and on a game where zerg isn't utterly favored in TvZ IdrA doesn't win vs MKP anymore. So weird... oh wait.

I wonder how he has so many fans while ragequitting everytime, having overall a shit mentality and being bad at the game at the same time. At least MoMaN has a lot of fans despite not being a top french player but he is very funny/sympathic and so on so I get it, but IdrA?

Or maybe it's solely because of his BW past.

IdrA is a symbol, and he has a real passion for the game and e-sports in general, and when you say that he's bad at the game you should remember he still gave us great games and great moments of sc2 in general, i see why you wouldh ate on IdrA, im just trying to tell you why you shouldn't.
Maru N1 MKP NesTea Mvp IdrA Ryung
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