Game 1 MKP went for a 2 base all in with MMM and a big SCV pull. MC held okay the first time, but the second push was way too strong.

Game 2 MKP went for a one base hellion drop followed by banshees. After a decent amount of worker kills, MKP just pulled his scv's with marines tanks and medivacs and stormed MC's base.

Game 3 MKP 2 raxed and MC didn't scout lol

Overall Marineking looked pretty dominant. Yeah, the games were pretty all-in, but they weren't stupid all-ins, if you kinda get what I mean lol.

Poopi

France12912 Posts

January 14 2013 08:39 GMT

#7329

I don't think the 1st game was a planned allin. He did a very weird stim + (was it also +1 attack?) concussive without medivacs, with the multi-front attack at the rocks and the larger ramp. He did ok damage with this, and maybe seeing that MC wasn't going to have AOE, decided to pull some workers with the following medivac push (he still had 38 in his bases). He did again quite a lot of damage, the sentry / energy count was quite low so he pulled scvs again, with his +1/+1 bio it proved to be too much.

The 2nd game showed how much they played each other in the past, a lot of mindgames was going on : MKP showed 2 hellions but quickly backed them off to force MC to produce 2 gates before robo in order to defend the potential hellion/marine elevator or even simple hellion drop. However MKP researched cloack while his first medivac was producing. Hellions did 6 kills, the first banshee killed a sentry and 3 probes. MKP followed that up with his bulk of marines, some unsieged tanks and SCVs and with the 2 banshees + some scv/marine that went up the cloud kingdom ramp near the rocks MC didn't try to FF, thus got crushed by the push. MC was said to have forgotten (didn't see that part, the different streams available have their own observer) an obs in the middle of the map but it would not have mattered, even though MKP scanned and killed MC's obs at his natural I'm almost certain he would have won without cloack, banshee vision for the main ramp was enough since he had so much more stuff than MC.

The 3rd game didn't seem to be very interesting but it was more of a complete MKP's psychological advantage earned with the two first games, MC didn't bother to scout nor make a zealot early thinking MKP would stop the agression on daybreak, going for a CC first as almost always, but MKP proxied 2 rax at 11/11 and well MC saw it when he was going to build his nexus... it didn't end well nor last long.

This 3rd game seems like abusive and easy, but remember that earlier in this Iron Squid, LucifroN (who is REALLY good in TvP) did a similar proxy 2 rax on cloud kingdom against MC that didn't work out for him, albeit it was close, not having this psychological advantage made it that much harder to pull off.

Overall MKP's TvP after this showing against HerO and MC, is like one of the best TvP you could have in the early/mid game. However it won't serve him that well in the GSL and in the offline part of Iron Squid, but so far it allowed him to go to Paris!

Hiea

Denmark1538 Posts

January 14 2013 08:47 GMT

#7330

On January 14 2013 17:39 Poopi wrote:
Overall MKP's TvP after this showing against HerO and MC, is like one of the best TvP you could have in the early/mid game. However it won't serve him that well in the GSL and in the offline part of Iron Squid, but so far it allowed him to go to Paris!

I got confused by this, how will it not serve him in GSL? MKP has done macro, greed, all ins and cheese, making him extremely unpredictable and a scary opponent to face.

Also, the Code S groups were announced, his is on January 30th

MKP
RorO
Keen
Mvp

I think this is a tough group, it will depend if RorO is still derping like he did vs Fantasy in Code A, then I think he will advance easily, as far as he beats RorO he has a very good chance, since he either needs to avoid Mvp if he wanna go out in first place, since MKP is a win dispenser for Mvp :/

opterown

Australia54784 Posts

January 14 2013 08:50 GMT

#7331

roro hasn't looked super good lately like he used to, and i think mkp can do well against keen. maybe if mvp keeps derping then he can take him out, too. it's a decent group for mkp i think

Shellshock

United States97276 Posts

January 14 2013 08:53 GMT

#7332

If MKP doesn't let Mvp get in his head he should get out of the group. I don't know if he can do that though. I don't think RorO is that great and he's better than Keen. I expect 2nd place finish at worst. He advanced out of the Ro32 every season in 2012, only player to do so.

Poopi

France12912 Posts

January 14 2013 08:53 GMT

#7333

On January 14 2013 17:47 Hiea wrote:

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It won't serve him since there are only 5 tosses in code S.

adiga

495 Posts

January 14 2013 08:59 GMT

#7334

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On January 14 2013 13:55 MangoSnap wrote:

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Game 1 MKP went for a 2 base all in with MMM and a big SCV pull. MC held okay the first time, but the second push was way too strong.

Game 2 MKP went for a one base hellion drop followed by banshees. After a decent amount of worker kills, MKP just pulled his scv's with marines tanks and medivacs and stormed MC's base.

Game 3 MKP 2 raxed and MC didn't scout lol

Overall Marineking looked pretty dominant. Yeah, the games were pretty all-in, but they weren't stupid all-ins, if you kinda get what I mean lol.

Yeah I agree. I don't believe he planed to go for an all-in at the first game, he reacted really well when he saw that MC had nothing when he got to his base and he capitalized on it by going all-in.

DJSub

Indonesia261 Posts

January 14 2013 09:09 GMT

#7335

New year, new trend. MKP will send MVP to Code A

opterown

Australia54784 Posts

January 14 2013 09:12 GMT

#7336

MKP GSL Results:
GSL 2011 Oct - RO32
GSL 2011 Nov - RO32
GSL 2012 S1 - RO16
GSL 2012 S2 - RO16
GSL 2012 S3 - RO16
GSL 2012 S4 - RO8
GSL 2012 S5 - RO8
GSL 2013 S1 - RO8? RO4??

Hiea

Denmark1538 Posts

January 14 2013 09:14 GMT

#7337

Well, while I think MKP is the superior player to Mvp, but it's the mental aspect..

Also I know that RorO has not looked impressive at all, but if he plays like he did in season 4, where he went 2-0 against Ryung and DRG.

I do hope that MKP can beat Mvp finally :D

Also, Imagine this - the finals of this season will be MKP vs Mvp, and MKP will 4-0 Mvp to get revenge from the first Code S where we was 4-0'd by Mvp.

Hiea

Denmark1538 Posts

January 14 2013 09:16 GMT

#7338

On January 14 2013 18:12 opterown wrote:
MKP GSL Results:
GSL 2011 Oct - RO32
GSL 2011 Nov - RO32
GSL 2012 S1 - RO16
GSL 2012 S2 - RO16
GSL 2012 S3 - RO16
GSL 2012 S4 - RO8
GSL 2012 S5 - RO8
GSL 2013 S1 - RO8? RO4??

GSL 2013 S2 Ro4
GSL 2013 S3 Ro4
GSL 2013 S4 Ro4
GSL 2014 S1 2nd
GSL 2014 S2 2nd
GSL 2014 S3 2nd
GSL 2014 S4 1st
GSL 2015 S1 1st
GSL 2015 S2 1st
GSL 2015 S3 Ro32
GSL 2015 S4 Ro32
GSL 2016 S1 Ro32

^ MKP's GSL career the next 3 years if patterns mean everything.

Shellshock

United States97276 Posts

January 14 2013 09:20 GMT

#7339

On January 14 2013 18:14 Hiea wrote:
Well, while I think MKP is the superior player to Mvp, but it's the mental aspect..

Also I know that RorO has not looked impressive at all, but if he plays like he did in season 4, where he went 2-0 against Ryung and DRG.

I do hope that MKP can beat Mvp finally :D

If you watch the series vs DRG though it was a total throw in both games. DRG was in a dominating positions both times and then decided to engage without using infested terrans right away and got wrecked by infestors. He uses them now. RorO barely beat Fantasy when Fantasy had like the worst day ever. If there is any zerg in GSL this season that MKP should beat, it's RorO