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On April 02 2011 22:26 dunc wrote:+ Show Spoiler +I feel so bad for MKP, he gt the worst side of the bracket and considering his TvP isn't the best I doubt he'll be able to beat MC. Hope so though, want him to take #2  Don't feel bad, it'll be really really good for him and his confidence if he can defeat MC, THEN MVP if MVP beat San, the two GSL champs who won convincively against him in the previous seasons. And after all in a tournament you have to win against everyone.
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On April 02 2011 23:07 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2011 22:26 dunc wrote:+ Show Spoiler +I feel so bad for MKP, he gt the worst side of the bracket and considering his TvP isn't the best I doubt he'll be able to beat MC. Hope so though, want him to take #2  Don't feel bad, it'll be really really good for him and his confidence if he can defeat MC, THEN MVP if MVP beat San, the two GSL champs who won convincively against him in the previous seasons. And after all in a tournament you have to win against everyone.
True true
I also just rewatched the vods and Tastosis saying Nada is better than MKP.. these guys get more ridiculous by the day. MarineKing is like 40 levels above Nada..
edit: That actually annoys me so much, the bias out of these two is retarded. It's like when they said Clide was better. What has Nada even done in sc2 except getting 3-0'd by MarineKing?
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MKP is so good, Artosis and Tasteless saying he is a level below Nada must have been a joke.
I wonder if he will use the same builds vs MC. It seems like he might have wanted to save some other tricks up his sleeve by using the same build over and over against TT1 except the last set where he needed to seal the deal.
MKP fighting!!
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MKP fighting MC will be interesting. Hopefully, MKP can win the series 
On April 03 2011 00:45 mango_destroyer wrote: MKP is so good, Artosis and Tasteless saying he is a level below Nada must have been a joke.
I didn't understand their comments either. It seems like they both really want that the former Broodwar legends will be legends in Starcraft 2 as well. However, Nada's isn't training a lot so I think he will become much better when he'll actually commit to playing the game. That is, Nada is the kind of person that might dominate every RTS game as long as he plays it enough. However, currently MKP is much better in my opinion.
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Awww those guys are so cute together
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On April 03 2011 13:49 raf3776 wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/MGJHF.jpg) Awww those guys are so cute together OMG NOOO!!! Now when I look at that pic I'm like "just kiss already!" OMG what's with me @__@
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On April 03 2011 13:49 raf3776 wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/MGJHF.jpg) Awww those guys are so cute together
Damn...MKP is so fine and smexy... I wish my hair was more like his
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Nada is a very good player but he doesn't train a lot due to the university, Nada's play is solid. But atm, MKP is better than Nada. I think his TvP was his worst matchup before but I think that he trained a lot ! But even if he trains with anypro or hongun in his team, they're not MC's level xD However MC also fear MKP, he said that currently MVP and MKP are the best terran players, and since MVP is in Code A, he fears MKP for the nest GSL ! MKP fighting !
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How do I sign myself up for this fine fan club. Marineking makes me wanna switch from Z to T.
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Yeah, even though MKP is my favorite SC2 player, I have MC winning in my Liquidbet. MC's just a more consistent player, there's a reason he's a 2-time champion and MKP is only a 2-time finalist. Still hoping he wins though.
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On April 03 2011 17:49 Drxz wrote: How do I sign myself up for this fine fan club. Marineking makes me wanna switch from Z to T.
HA I can see why, MKP plays a zerg-esque Terran..
-doesn't favor turtling -favors fast expand -gets his third faster than turtle terrans -high production
The style is so fun to play as T
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On April 04 2011 00:35 dabom88 wrote: Yeah, even though MKP is my favorite SC2 player, I have MC winning in my Liquidbet. MC's just a more consistent player, there's a reason he's a 2-time champion and MKP is only a 2-time finalist. Still hoping he wins though.
I haven't even voted I'd feel bad to vote against MKP but the future is looking grim, especially with his marine+tank style
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On April 03 2011 00:32 dunc wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2011 23:07 Poopi wrote:On April 02 2011 22:26 dunc wrote:+ Show Spoiler +I feel so bad for MKP, he gt the worst side of the bracket and considering his TvP isn't the best I doubt he'll be able to beat MC. Hope so though, want him to take #2  Don't feel bad, it'll be really really good for him and his confidence if he can defeat MC, THEN MVP if MVP beat San, the two GSL champs who won convincively against him in the previous seasons. And after all in a tournament you have to win against everyone. True true I also just rewatched the vods and Tastosis saying Nada is better than MKP.. these guys get more ridiculous by the day. MarineKing is like 40 levels above Nada.. edit: That actually annoys me so much, the bias out of these two is retarded. It's like when they said Clide was better. What has Nada even done in sc2 except getting 3-0'd by MarineKing?
Well, he's been extremely consistent so far, which was his MO for the past long while in BW as well. The 3-0 series was a lot closer than it looked, of course. The Xelnaga game came down to some silly mistakes by Nada that you wouldn't normally expect a pro player to make.
I think Marineking is the better player in SC2 right now, though. I don't really understand some people's desire to say that he's been figured out and will just fade away soon - clearly he's a talented guy with excellent mechanics. He can play solid if he wants to. Hell, his factory builds just look nasty to deal with.
If TvP gets more developed(the two base tank/marine timing pushes are cool, but are they solid? Hard to say atm, I think) and he can figure out how to beat MVP he'll be set.
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On April 04 2011 02:10 Turgid wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 00:32 dunc wrote:On April 02 2011 23:07 Poopi wrote:On April 02 2011 22:26 dunc wrote:+ Show Spoiler +I feel so bad for MKP, he gt the worst side of the bracket and considering his TvP isn't the best I doubt he'll be able to beat MC. Hope so though, want him to take #2  Don't feel bad, it'll be really really good for him and his confidence if he can defeat MC, THEN MVP if MVP beat San, the two GSL champs who won convincively against him in the previous seasons. And after all in a tournament you have to win against everyone. True true I also just rewatched the vods and Tastosis saying Nada is better than MKP.. these guys get more ridiculous by the day. MarineKing is like 40 levels above Nada.. edit: That actually annoys me so much, the bias out of these two is retarded. It's like when they said Clide was better. What has Nada even done in sc2 except getting 3-0'd by MarineKing? Well, he's been extremely consistent so far, which was his MO for the past long while in BW as well. The 3-0 series was a lot closer than it looked, of course. The Xelnaga game came down to some silly mistakes by Nada that you wouldn't normally expect a pro player to make. I think Marineking is the better player in SC2 right now, though. I don't really understand some people's desire to say that he's been figured out and will just fade away soon - clearly he's a talented guy with excellent mechanics. He can play solid if he wants to. Hell, his factory builds just look nasty to deal with. If TvP gets more developed(the two base tank/marine timing pushes are cool, but are they solid? Hard to say atm, I think) and he can figure out how to beat MVP he'll be set.
MarineKing has been more solid though and seems to be considered better by the top players(MC saying he's only afraid of MVP/MKP etc.)
For them to make a comment like that just because of their BW bias is retarded
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On April 04 2011 03:02 dunc wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 02:10 Turgid wrote:On April 03 2011 00:32 dunc wrote:On April 02 2011 23:07 Poopi wrote:On April 02 2011 22:26 dunc wrote:+ Show Spoiler +I feel so bad for MKP, he gt the worst side of the bracket and considering his TvP isn't the best I doubt he'll be able to beat MC. Hope so though, want him to take #2  Don't feel bad, it'll be really really good for him and his confidence if he can defeat MC, THEN MVP if MVP beat San, the two GSL champs who won convincively against him in the previous seasons. And after all in a tournament you have to win against everyone. True true I also just rewatched the vods and Tastosis saying Nada is better than MKP.. these guys get more ridiculous by the day. MarineKing is like 40 levels above Nada.. edit: That actually annoys me so much, the bias out of these two is retarded. It's like when they said Clide was better. What has Nada even done in sc2 except getting 3-0'd by MarineKing? Well, he's been extremely consistent so far, which was his MO for the past long while in BW as well. The 3-0 series was a lot closer than it looked, of course. The Xelnaga game came down to some silly mistakes by Nada that you wouldn't normally expect a pro player to make. I think Marineking is the better player in SC2 right now, though. I don't really understand some people's desire to say that he's been figured out and will just fade away soon - clearly he's a talented guy with excellent mechanics. He can play solid if he wants to. Hell, his factory builds just look nasty to deal with. If TvP gets more developed(the two base tank/marine timing pushes are cool, but are they solid? Hard to say atm, I think) and he can figure out how to beat MVP he'll be set. MarineKing has been more solid though and seems to be considered better by the top players(MC saying he's only afraid of MVP/MKP etc.) For them to make a comment like that just because of their BW bias is retarded
MKP was a BW B-Teamer, so I don't think it's as much BW bias as it is NaDa bias (and honestly, who doesn't have NaDa bias...everyone loves NaDa). I think outside of Oov, NaDa is Artosis' favorite progamer.
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TvP is very hard right now, and MC just looks unbeatable in BO5 (even BO3...). I sense that MKP will win but I thought he would won against MVP as well so dunno t_t
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I'm really looking forward to this series. I really like MKP and how he has evolved and it would be ridiculously awesome if he could beat MC. Count me in on this fanclub btw
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On April 04 2011 03:07 Qaatar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 03:02 dunc wrote:On April 04 2011 02:10 Turgid wrote:On April 03 2011 00:32 dunc wrote:On April 02 2011 23:07 Poopi wrote:On April 02 2011 22:26 dunc wrote:+ Show Spoiler +I feel so bad for MKP, he gt the worst side of the bracket and considering his TvP isn't the best I doubt he'll be able to beat MC. Hope so though, want him to take #2  Don't feel bad, it'll be really really good for him and his confidence if he can defeat MC, THEN MVP if MVP beat San, the two GSL champs who won convincively against him in the previous seasons. And after all in a tournament you have to win against everyone. True true I also just rewatched the vods and Tastosis saying Nada is better than MKP.. these guys get more ridiculous by the day. MarineKing is like 40 levels above Nada.. edit: That actually annoys me so much, the bias out of these two is retarded. It's like when they said Clide was better. What has Nada even done in sc2 except getting 3-0'd by MarineKing? Well, he's been extremely consistent so far, which was his MO for the past long while in BW as well. The 3-0 series was a lot closer than it looked, of course. The Xelnaga game came down to some silly mistakes by Nada that you wouldn't normally expect a pro player to make. I think Marineking is the better player in SC2 right now, though. I don't really understand some people's desire to say that he's been figured out and will just fade away soon - clearly he's a talented guy with excellent mechanics. He can play solid if he wants to. Hell, his factory builds just look nasty to deal with. If TvP gets more developed(the two base tank/marine timing pushes are cool, but are they solid? Hard to say atm, I think) and he can figure out how to beat MVP he'll be set. MarineKing has been more solid though and seems to be considered better by the top players(MC saying he's only afraid of MVP/MKP etc.) For them to make a comment like that just because of their BW bias is retarded MKP was a BW B-Teamer, so I don't think it's as much BW bias as it is NaDa bias (and honestly, who doesn't have NaDa bias...everyone loves NaDa). I think outside of Oov, NaDa is Artosis' favorite progamer.
It doesn't have anything to do with MKP's status in BW though. I meant, they are overhyping Nada because he was good in BW. They do the same with July and it's annoying, especially when they're facing players who are much better in the game they're currenlty playing(SC2).
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To be fair, July has improved significantly and is now a top zerg. This is the guy that used to intentionally run banelings into and DROP BANELINGS ONTO thors and siege tanks. MarineKing is the better player right now between him and Nada but for a while there, it was just barely, and everyone is sorta waiting for NaDa to be able to practice on a full schedule so he can get really beastly.
the REALLY funny BW hype was Sync. At least Artosis hasn't tried to pretend that Junwi or Silent Control are secretly good.
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