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BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5219 Posts
August 13 2011 06:08 GMT
#19141
I don't think Idra is slumping as much as other foreigners are catching up. I am wondering if not being in Korea is affecting his play, as now he plays against scrubs on the NA ladder, instead of the quality players he played on the KR ladder.

Idra will produce results at Raleigh though and I think that if he can beat Huk/Kiwi in the loser's bracket, he should no problems with Select and Sheth. I am really not worried about TT1 at all.
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
August 13 2011 06:16 GMT
#19142
On August 13 2011 11:48 PandaMonk wrote:
IdrA has the capability to be the one of the best zergs in the world, atm he is the best foreigner and if not then the best foreign zerg, he had a little bit of a slip vs sheth, but hey, dont over look that he was the highest placing foreign zerg at mlg, and the best foreigner period at the mlg colombus, so lets look over these little missteps and look forward to the next mlg where he will pwn with his new practice regimen! Even though he is one of the best he still has the slight... mental problem? But skill wise, he is one of the best, idra fighting!


Yeah there's no way he's the best foreigner anymore. He's not even the best zerg foreigner. There's Dimaga, Sen, Stephano, Ret and Nerchio who have recently shown better results, skill and better games than idra against some tough opponents.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
trikshun
Profile Joined October 2010
United States437 Posts
August 13 2011 06:19 GMT
#19143
On August 13 2011 15:16 Warrior Madness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 11:48 PandaMonk wrote:
IdrA has the capability to be the one of the best zergs in the world, atm he is the best foreigner and if not then the best foreign zerg, he had a little bit of a slip vs sheth, but hey, dont over look that he was the highest placing foreign zerg at mlg, and the best foreigner period at the mlg colombus, so lets look over these little missteps and look forward to the next mlg where he will pwn with his new practice regimen! Even though he is one of the best he still has the slight... mental problem? But skill wise, he is one of the best, idra fighting!


Yeah there's no way he's the best foreigner anymore. He's not even the best zerg foreigner. There's Dimaga, Sen, Stephano, Ret and Nerchio who have recently shown better results, skill and better games than idra against some tough opponents.

The only person better then him in that group is Sen... If iEG sent idra to assembly im sure he would've won
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
August 13 2011 06:21 GMT
#19144
On August 13 2011 15:07 Psyclon wrote:
I was expecting Nerchio to put up a good fight, but 0:3... Come on, IdrA, you SHOULD be beating players like Sheth and Nerchio, Now the inevitable game vs HuK...


Dude wtf?

Why?

Why should he be beating Sheth and Nerchio? They are not freaking bad players.

There is only one person in the world right now who almost never loses ZvZ.
trikshun
Profile Joined October 2010
United States437 Posts
August 13 2011 06:25 GMT
#19145
On August 13 2011 15:21 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 15:07 Psyclon wrote:
I was expecting Nerchio to put up a good fight, but 0:3... Come on, IdrA, you SHOULD be beating players like Sheth and Nerchio, Now the inevitable game vs HuK...


Dude wtf?

Why?

Why should he be beating Sheth and Nerchio? They are not freaking bad players.

There is only one person in the world right now who almost never loses ZvZ.

ZvZ is a pretty volatile match up.
Consolidate
Profile Joined February 2010
United States829 Posts
August 13 2011 06:31 GMT
#19146
On August 13 2011 15:25 trikshun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 15:21 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On August 13 2011 15:07 Psyclon wrote:
I was expecting Nerchio to put up a good fight, but 0:3... Come on, IdrA, you SHOULD be beating players like Sheth and Nerchio, Now the inevitable game vs HuK...


Dude wtf?

Why?

Why should he be beating Sheth and Nerchio? They are not freaking bad players.

There is only one person in the world right now who almost never loses ZvZ.

ZvZ is a pretty volatile match up.


Not according to statistics.
Creature posessed the the spirit of inquiry and bloodlust - Adventure Time
Moonling
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States987 Posts
August 13 2011 06:39 GMT
#19147
On August 13 2011 15:25 trikshun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 15:21 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On August 13 2011 15:07 Psyclon wrote:
I was expecting Nerchio to put up a good fight, but 0:3... Come on, IdrA, you SHOULD be beating players like Sheth and Nerchio, Now the inevitable game vs HuK...


Dude wtf?

Why?

Why should he be beating Sheth and Nerchio? They are not freaking bad players.

There is only one person in the world right now who almost never loses ZvZ.

ZvZ is a pretty volatile match up.



ZvZ is quite the opposite of Volatile actually my friend. Idra got outplayed by Sheth plain and simple, give Sheth some credit he gracked the gracken
1% of koreans control 99% of starcraft winnings. #occupykorea.
TUski
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1258 Posts
August 13 2011 06:44 GMT
#19148
On August 13 2011 15:21 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 15:07 Psyclon wrote:
I was expecting Nerchio to put up a good fight, but 0:3... Come on, IdrA, you SHOULD be beating players like Sheth and Nerchio, Now the inevitable game vs HuK...


Dude wtf?

Why?

Why should he be beating Sheth and Nerchio? They are not freaking bad players.

There is only one person in the world right now who almost never loses ZvZ.


Before his NASL match vs Sen, I believe he had a 91% winrate vs Z according to TLPD. "IvZ" was something that wasn't too far off in the distance to most of us fans. Now, however, he's been losing quite a bit to zergs in televised matches. His replays (read: REPLAYS) vs Nerchio were pretty disappointing given that they were played long ago, when his vZ record was really shining. His series vs Sheth today were well planned strategies by Sheth (10pool baneling to abuse the fact that Idra loves to 15 hatch on Shakuras, and a beautiful roach timing that hit right before Idra got his infestors out).
"There is nothing more cool than being proud of the things that you love." - Day[9]
trikshun
Profile Joined October 2010
United States437 Posts
August 13 2011 06:45 GMT
#19149
On August 13 2011 15:39 Moonling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 15:25 trikshun wrote:
On August 13 2011 15:21 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On August 13 2011 15:07 Psyclon wrote:
I was expecting Nerchio to put up a good fight, but 0:3... Come on, IdrA, you SHOULD be beating players like Sheth and Nerchio, Now the inevitable game vs HuK...


Dude wtf?

Why?

Why should he be beating Sheth and Nerchio? They are not freaking bad players.

There is only one person in the world right now who almost never loses ZvZ.

ZvZ is a pretty volatile match up.



ZvZ is quite the opposite of Volatile actually my friend. Idra got outplayed by Sheth plain and simple, give Sheth some credit he gracked the gracken

I think Sheth has some insane ZvZ. But how does Sen lose to Stephano... Not saying Stephano is bad he is actually amazing but Sen barley loses zvz
taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
August 13 2011 06:46 GMT
#19150
On August 13 2011 15:08 BronzeKnee wrote:
I don't think Idra is slumping as much as other foreigners are catching up. I am wondering if not being in Korea is affecting his play, as now he plays against scrubs on the NA ladder, instead of the quality players he played on the KR ladder.

Idra will produce results at Raleigh though and I think that if he can beat Huk/Kiwi in the loser's bracket, he should no problems with Select and Sheth. I am really not worried about TT1 at all.


As much as I love IdrA it's just simple logic, the more time you put into the game the better you will be, the better your opponent the more you learn. IdrA is losing his grip on being called a "world-class" player, If he was in Korea on a team he would be INSANE right now but doing that sacrifices alot. He is probably five times more comfortable right now, while making a hefty salary, not being in korea 100% hurts his status as one of the best foreigners, but he is definitely living off starcraft much more physically and mentally comfortable than most other players.
Nyarly
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1030 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-13 06:56:32
August 13 2011 06:56 GMT
#19151
On August 13 2011 15:39 Moonling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 15:25 trikshun wrote:
On August 13 2011 15:21 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On August 13 2011 15:07 Psyclon wrote:
I was expecting Nerchio to put up a good fight, but 0:3... Come on, IdrA, you SHOULD be beating players like Sheth and Nerchio, Now the inevitable game vs HuK...


Dude wtf?

Why?

Why should he be beating Sheth and Nerchio? They are not freaking bad players.

There is only one person in the world right now who almost never loses ZvZ.

ZvZ is a pretty volatile match up.



ZvZ is quite the opposite of Volatile actually my friend. Idra got outplayed by Sheth plain and simple, give Sheth some credit he gracked the gracken


That's clearly what we want here, in the Idra fanclub.


No worries guys, he'll still win
Psyclon
Profile Joined July 2010
Bulgaria2443 Posts
August 13 2011 07:04 GMT
#19152
On August 13 2011 15:21 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 15:07 Psyclon wrote:
I was expecting Nerchio to put up a good fight, but 0:3... Come on, IdrA, you SHOULD be beating players like Sheth and Nerchio, Now the inevitable game vs HuK...


Dude wtf?

Why?

Why should he be beating Sheth and Nerchio? They are not freaking bad players.

There is only one person in the world right now who almost never loses ZvZ.


I know they are great players, but IdrA SHOULD be better, or at least lose in very close battles. That's how i see things.
Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds!
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-13 08:25:32
August 13 2011 08:24 GMT
#19153
Please stop posting stupid things in this thread whenever IdrA loses. Take a small break and get some fresh air, then collect your thoughts and post.

Sheth or MaNa are not players I would have expected to win against IdrA, but it happened. TheBest reverse-all killed ZeNeX yesterday even though Artosis thought he sucked at macro games. QXC all-killed IM a week ago even though he's not Korean. SeleCT 2-0d HuK in the NA Blizzcon Invitational. Do you automatically now think these players were better than their opponents? Obviously you wouldn't say that at all considering their long-term performance so far.

Everyone loses some games you wouldn't expect them to. Happened in BW too. Happens in every competition ever. It's normal.

Now come back from your open window with your lungs full of fresh air, sit down in front of your computer and post avout how you'd like IdrA to have more success in future matches, for example in the loser brackets for both IPL and the NA invitational.
SuperbWingman
Profile Joined March 2011
United States33 Posts
August 13 2011 08:33 GMT
#19154
This anti-fan is now a fan again after watching the IdrA vs DDE match. Macro hatch ftw. Never surrender!
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
August 13 2011 08:42 GMT
#19155
On August 13 2011 17:24 Jinsho wrote:
Please stop posting stupid things in this thread whenever IdrA loses. Take a small break and get some fresh air, then collect your thoughts and post.

Sheth or MaNa are not players I would have expected to win against IdrA, but it happened. TheBest reverse-all killed ZeNeX yesterday even though Artosis thought he sucked at macro games. QXC all-killed IM a week ago even though he's not Korean. SeleCT 2-0d HuK in the NA Blizzcon Invitational. Do you automatically now think these players were better than their opponents? Obviously you wouldn't say that at all considering their long-term performance so far.

Everyone loses some games you wouldn't expect them to. Happened in BW too. Happens in every competition ever. It's normal.

Now come back from your open window with your lungs full of fresh air, sit down in front of your computer and post avout how you'd like IdrA to have more success in future matches, for example in the loser brackets for both IPL and the NA invitational.


fyi idra's out of the losers bracket to, he got 3-0'd by nerchio.
When I think of something else, something will go here
userstupidname
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-13 10:25:43
August 13 2011 10:19 GMT
#19156
On August 13 2011 17:42 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 17:24 Jinsho wrote:
Please stop posting stupid things in this thread whenever IdrA loses. Take a small break and get some fresh air, then collect your thoughts and post.

Sheth or MaNa are not players I would have expected to win against IdrA, but it happened. TheBest reverse-all killed ZeNeX yesterday even though Artosis thought he sucked at macro games. QXC all-killed IM a week ago even though he's not Korean. SeleCT 2-0d HuK in the NA Blizzcon Invitational. Do you automatically now think these players were better than their opponents? Obviously you wouldn't say that at all considering their long-term performance so far.

Everyone loses some games you wouldn't expect them to. Happened in BW too. Happens in every competition ever. It's normal.

Now come back from your open window with your lungs full of fresh air, sit down in front of your computer and post avout how you'd like IdrA to have more success in future matches, for example in the loser brackets for both IPL and the NA invitational.


fyi idra's out of the losers bracket to, he got 3-0'd by nerchio.


God I am so depressed now

but idra will win loser bracket na blizz, HE WILL go to blizzcon, idra... be the best nothing less!


On August 13 2011 13:54 waffle231 wrote:
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Yes, that was awesome Idra!!!


brilliant
Good luck have fun! - Except if its ZvZ Then you can burn in hell :D
KinQuh
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland810 Posts
August 13 2011 10:28 GMT
#19157
On August 13 2011 15:19 trikshun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 15:16 Warrior Madness wrote:
On August 13 2011 11:48 PandaMonk wrote:
IdrA has the capability to be the one of the best zergs in the world, atm he is the best foreigner and if not then the best foreign zerg, he had a little bit of a slip vs sheth, but hey, dont over look that he was the highest placing foreign zerg at mlg, and the best foreigner period at the mlg colombus, so lets look over these little missteps and look forward to the next mlg where he will pwn with his new practice regimen! Even though he is one of the best he still has the slight... mental problem? But skill wise, he is one of the best, idra fighting!


Yeah there's no way he's the best foreigner anymore. He's not even the best zerg foreigner. There's Dimaga, Sen, Stephano, Ret and Nerchio who have recently shown better results, skill and better games than idra against some tough opponents.

The only person better then him in that group is Sen... If iEG sent idra to assembly im sure he would've won

I'd be happy if IdrA could even get out of the groups.Winning the tournament , no chance.
Holy check.
EternalSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden313 Posts
August 13 2011 10:32 GMT
#19158
I want to see idra vs HuK ;D
SHIT'S ON LIKE DONKEY KONG!
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
August 13 2011 10:35 GMT
#19159
I don't actually think Idra got worse as a player, I think the other players just got a lot better.
When I watch Idra playing I allways have the idea he is still using 5-6 months old strategies that everyone knows how too counter.
He has to freshen up his builds, then he will have a shot at being the best again.
OrchidThief
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark2298 Posts
August 13 2011 11:00 GMT
#19160
Wow people really have high expectations. Not only is ZvZ quite volatile, the whole game is quite volatile, anyone can win BO3's against almost anyone. Being a great player does not mean you win 100% of your games, it means you're winning against good players more than 50% (i.e. 52% or 55%). People need to chill out, and not post stupid end of the world posts everytime IdrA loses a BO3 in some tournament.

He's still better than Nerchio, Ret and Stephano. (And even if he isn't, then who cares, this is his fanclub not theirs, we're entitled to be as blind and ignorant in our fanboy'ism as we like).

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