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dacthehork
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2000 Posts
June 16 2011 04:15 GMT
#14581
Great games today, it sucks you had to lose like that to such risky play by zenio. Idra fighting spirit!!!
Warturtle - DOTA 2 is KING
kiy0
Profile Joined August 2010
Portugal593 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 04:16:21
June 16 2011 04:15 GMT
#14582
On June 16 2011 12:07 StarscreamG1 wrote:
How Artosis would say... Zenio's ZvZ is by miles his best matchup. Enough said, he outplayed IdrA :\


He won both games in a coin flip.
First game he cheesed on a 4 player map and the odds of scouting first get him the game. Second game he went blind muta... Not to take credit away from Zenio, but those games could have gone either way.
Wisemen speak when they have something to say. Others speak when they have to say something.
Xiaon
Profile Joined May 2011
United States245 Posts
June 16 2011 04:27 GMT
#14583
On June 16 2011 13:12 Serpico wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 13:10 Xiaon wrote:
On June 16 2011 13:08 Serpico wrote:
On June 16 2011 12:39 Xiaon wrote:
On June 16 2011 12:34 Serpico wrote:
On June 16 2011 12:24 Xiaon wrote:
On June 16 2011 12:22 1Eris1 wrote:
Ehhh, Idra's level of play has dropped considerabely since he started this whole "3 hours per day regiment stuff", I really think he needs to focus more on the game. A lot of other Foriegners are training really hard and he's starting to look pretty vunerable

well
you do realize incontrol and other eg are starting teamhouse
in incontrols words "we will be bootcamping it"

Idra was practicing 3 hours a day BEFORE the last MLG. Didn't hurt him there.


he beat select 2-0 who hardly deviates vs idra
tyler 2-0 who is thinking about quitting
mc 2-0 when mc was jetlagged and on zerg maps
ret 2-0 idra ahs best foreign zvz

thorzain who is actuallygood/notjetlagged 0-2d idra
mc 0-4 him in normal games
MMA.. well that doesnt count

it hurt him a bit

no....you dont just say practicing that much hurts you when you finish 4th at the most competitive MLG ever. You really like to make every excuse in the book.


the heck are you talking about?
what am i making exscuses for
taking 4th isnt as good as he could have gone
as incontrol said "if you aren't winning, no matter how good, your still losing"

uhh what? So you think his practice habits hurt him when he did better than any other foreigner out there who were probably practicing much more? Maybe, just MAYBE 3 hours a day is actually all he needs?


your contradicting idra
he said he plays better with about 6-8 hours a day
and he will be bootcamping it
im using idras facts
you arent
idra demuslim incontrol lzgamer machine strife cro axslav, oh and INKAAAA
Persev
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States127 Posts
June 16 2011 04:35 GMT
#14584
I just wanted to say thanks for all the quality games you've played. I wish you well and hope good things happen for you. I'm not sure where or how to say this but I think here it is anyway and hope this will be taken and used to your betterment in the near future: When things look hopeless its time to dig deep and rise to the occasion. Necessity and Adversity are oftentimes the greatest source of strength and success though at the time it doesnt' look that way. GL HF GG
Be nice!
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
June 16 2011 04:37 GMT
#14585
On June 16 2011 13:27 Xiaon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 13:12 Serpico wrote:
On June 16 2011 13:10 Xiaon wrote:
On June 16 2011 13:08 Serpico wrote:
On June 16 2011 12:39 Xiaon wrote:
On June 16 2011 12:34 Serpico wrote:
On June 16 2011 12:24 Xiaon wrote:
On June 16 2011 12:22 1Eris1 wrote:
Ehhh, Idra's level of play has dropped considerabely since he started this whole "3 hours per day regiment stuff", I really think he needs to focus more on the game. A lot of other Foriegners are training really hard and he's starting to look pretty vunerable

well
you do realize incontrol and other eg are starting teamhouse
in incontrols words "we will be bootcamping it"

Idra was practicing 3 hours a day BEFORE the last MLG. Didn't hurt him there.


he beat select 2-0 who hardly deviates vs idra
tyler 2-0 who is thinking about quitting
mc 2-0 when mc was jetlagged and on zerg maps
ret 2-0 idra ahs best foreign zvz

thorzain who is actuallygood/notjetlagged 0-2d idra
mc 0-4 him in normal games
MMA.. well that doesnt count

it hurt him a bit

no....you dont just say practicing that much hurts you when you finish 4th at the most competitive MLG ever. You really like to make every excuse in the book.


the heck are you talking about?
what am i making exscuses for
taking 4th isnt as good as he could have gone
as incontrol said "if you aren't winning, no matter how good, your still losing"

uhh what? So you think his practice habits hurt him when he did better than any other foreigner out there who were probably practicing much more? Maybe, just MAYBE 3 hours a day is actually all he needs?


your contradicting idra
he said he plays better with about 6-8 hours a day
and he will be bootcamping it
im using idras facts
you arent


6-8 hours of practice only mattered in korea

practice only matters when you learn and improve

IdrA can not learn nor improve on shitty NA ladder when everyone stream snipes him or does 2rax bunker ramp blocks 90% of the games.

He needs teammates that practice that 8 hours or he needs a korean ladder.

Unless he gets one of those, he will just get worse and worse.
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TheGreatWhiteHope_
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States335 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 04:53:52
June 16 2011 04:48 GMT
#14586
On June 16 2011 12:05 Olinim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 12:00 TheGreatWhiteHope_ wrote:
Game 1: Scouting and Build order loss
Game 2: Lucky timing on Zenio's part, 30 seconds later he has 4 infestors with energy for fungals.

ZvZ sucks anyways.

This is your post if the roles were reversed.

"Game 1: Great decision to 9 pool, discovering a weakness in zenio's style.
Game 2: Brilliant timing on Idra's part, 30 seconds later and he has 4 infestors, pure genius."

Anyways GL at Dreamhack.


Game 1:
I think you meant, "Great decision to 9 pool, discovering a weankness in Idra's style."

You are only factoring in part of the equation. Idra scouted him LAST on a 4 player map while Zenio scouted him first, this enabled the 9 pool to work and left Idra unable to adapt. No skill(or lack thereof) involved there, just bad luck.

Game 2:
It does not work like that. Zenio did not put down his spire while thinking to himself, "Ah yes, this is the perfect timing! I will have 10 mutas in his base just before he has infestors out." On the other hand, Idra put down his pit as soon as he felt his army could withstand an attack and was making all of the right decisions given the information he had. What do you expect, Idra to cut roaches/drones, rush to get his lair up, make overseer and scout for a POSSIBLE spire for mid game tech switch?



Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
June 16 2011 05:00 GMT
#14587
did anyone even notice that when they showed the bracket TT1 had protoss icon and they said he is a very strong solid Terran player i lold

too bad but idra will KICK ASH IN DH
Forever Mirin Zyzz Son of Zeus Brother of Hercules Father of the Aesthetics
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
June 16 2011 05:04 GMT
#14588
On June 16 2011 13:48 TheGreatWhiteHope_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 12:05 Olinim wrote:
On June 16 2011 12:00 TheGreatWhiteHope_ wrote:
Game 1: Scouting and Build order loss
Game 2: Lucky timing on Zenio's part, 30 seconds later he has 4 infestors with energy for fungals.

ZvZ sucks anyways.

This is your post if the roles were reversed.

"Game 1: Great decision to 9 pool, discovering a weakness in zenio's style.
Game 2: Brilliant timing on Idra's part, 30 seconds later and he has 4 infestors, pure genius."

Anyways GL at Dreamhack.


Game 1:
I think you meant, "Great decision to 9 pool, discovering a weankness in Idra's style."

You are only factoring in part of the equation. Idra scouted him LAST on a 4 player map while Zenio scouted him first, this enabled the 9 pool to work and left Idra unable to adapt. No skill(or lack thereof) involved there, just bad luck.

Game 2:
It does not work like that. Zenio did not put down his spire while thinking to himself, "Ah yes, this is the perfect timing! I will have 10 mutas in his base just before he has infestors out." On the other hand, Idra put down his pit as soon as he felt his army could withstand an attack and was making all of the right decisions given the information he had. What do you expect, Idra to cut roaches/drones, rush to get his lair up, make overseer and scout for a POSSIBLE spire for mid game tech switch?




im pretty sure he was talking about if IdrA would've been Zenio in those games. As in IdrA would've 9 pooled Zenio and IdrA would've did the Muta switch and killed Zenio 30 seconds before Zenio had the infestors.
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 05:14:46
June 16 2011 05:14 GMT
#14589
On June 16 2011 13:27 Xiaon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 13:12 Serpico wrote:
On June 16 2011 13:10 Xiaon wrote:
On June 16 2011 13:08 Serpico wrote:
On June 16 2011 12:39 Xiaon wrote:
On June 16 2011 12:34 Serpico wrote:
On June 16 2011 12:24 Xiaon wrote:
On June 16 2011 12:22 1Eris1 wrote:
Ehhh, Idra's level of play has dropped considerabely since he started this whole "3 hours per day regiment stuff", I really think he needs to focus more on the game. A lot of other Foriegners are training really hard and he's starting to look pretty vunerable

well
you do realize incontrol and other eg are starting teamhouse
in incontrols words "we will be bootcamping it"

Idra was practicing 3 hours a day BEFORE the last MLG. Didn't hurt him there.


he beat select 2-0 who hardly deviates vs idra
tyler 2-0 who is thinking about quitting
mc 2-0 when mc was jetlagged and on zerg maps
ret 2-0 idra ahs best foreign zvz

thorzain who is actuallygood/notjetlagged 0-2d idra
mc 0-4 him in normal games
MMA.. well that doesnt count

it hurt him a bit

no....you dont just say practicing that much hurts you when you finish 4th at the most competitive MLG ever. You really like to make every excuse in the book.


the heck are you talking about?
what am i making exscuses for
taking 4th isnt as good as he could have gone
as incontrol said "if you aren't winning, no matter how good, your still losing"

uhh what? So you think his practice habits hurt him when he did better than any other foreigner out there who were probably practicing much more? Maybe, just MAYBE 3 hours a day is actually all he needs?


your contradicting idra
he said he plays better with about 6-8 hours a day
and he will be bootcamping it
im using idras facts
you arent

Idra has said he's comfortable and competitive playing 3 hours a day. I never said that 6-8 isn't ideal but he is more than competitive without practicing that much. It's a complete fallacy to automatically assume practice time has anything to do with his losses when most of them have had to do with him leaving early or his attitude.
GiftPflanZe
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Germany623 Posts
June 16 2011 05:20 GMT
#14590
I am sad that idra lost vs zenio,it seems he just cant beat him!
...
TheGreatWhiteHope_
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States335 Posts
June 16 2011 05:23 GMT
#14591
On June 16 2011 14:04 Whole wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 13:48 TheGreatWhiteHope_ wrote:
On June 16 2011 12:05 Olinim wrote:
On June 16 2011 12:00 TheGreatWhiteHope_ wrote:
Game 1: Scouting and Build order loss
Game 2: Lucky timing on Zenio's part, 30 seconds later he has 4 infestors with energy for fungals.

ZvZ sucks anyways.

This is your post if the roles were reversed.

"Game 1: Great decision to 9 pool, discovering a weakness in zenio's style.
Game 2: Brilliant timing on Idra's part, 30 seconds later and he has 4 infestors, pure genius."

Anyways GL at Dreamhack.


Game 1:
I think you meant, "Great decision to 9 pool, discovering a weankness in Idra's style."

You are only factoring in part of the equation. Idra scouted him LAST on a 4 player map while Zenio scouted him first, this enabled the 9 pool to work and left Idra unable to adapt. No skill(or lack thereof) involved there, just bad luck.

Game 2:
It does not work like that. Zenio did not put down his spire while thinking to himself, "Ah yes, this is the perfect timing! I will have 10 mutas in his base just before he has infestors out." On the other hand, Idra put down his pit as soon as he felt his army could withstand an attack and was making all of the right decisions given the information he had. What do you expect, Idra to cut roaches/drones, rush to get his lair up, make overseer and scout for a POSSIBLE spire for mid game tech switch?




im pretty sure he was talking about if IdrA would've been Zenio in those games. As in IdrA would've 9 pooled Zenio and IdrA would've did the Muta switch and killed Zenio 30 seconds before Zenio had the infestors.


Oh he's saying I'm just a dumb fan boy. Got it.
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
June 16 2011 06:36 GMT
#14592
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/i0zkn/idra_playing_protoss/

some dickhead impersonating idra on ladder and people are stupid enough to believe it
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 16 2011 06:42 GMT
#14593
On June 16 2011 15:36 Mailing wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/i0zkn/idra_playing_protoss/

some dickhead impersonating idra on ladder and people are stupid enough to believe it


There's so many idras on ladder, I don't know why anyone actually falls for this shit.
Though idra as Terran would make me go apeshit happy for a second @_@
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
June 16 2011 06:44 GMT
#14594
There was a showmatch series where people played off-race.

The guy running it said in the thread he would try to get IdrA to do it.

Though since he played terran in BW, he would probably play protoss in a sc2 off-race tourney.

I hope he does, as Minigun was like the only player there who could off-race well as zerg.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 16 2011 06:47 GMT
#14595
On June 16 2011 15:44 Mailing wrote:
There was a showmatch series where people played off-race.

The guy running it said in the thread he would try to get IdrA to do it.

Though since he played terran in BW, he would probably play protoss in a sc2 off-race tourney.

I hope he does, as Minigun was like the only player there who could off-race well as zerg.


Do you have a link to this?

iNcontrol as Zerg would be equally as awesome imo!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Gotmog
Profile Joined October 2010
Serbia899 Posts
June 16 2011 06:48 GMT
#14596
So guys ... what is that big announcement about EG that Idra hinted in the "inside the game" ?
Can't be only about the EG house, since we already know about that ?
Whatever it is, it should have been announced already...
"When you play the game of drones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground"
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
June 16 2011 06:50 GMT
#14597
On June 16 2011 15:47 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 15:44 Mailing wrote:
There was a showmatch series where people played off-race.

The guy running it said in the thread he would try to get IdrA to do it.

Though since he played terran in BW, he would probably play protoss in a sc2 off-race tourney.

I hope he does, as Minigun was like the only player there who could off-race well as zerg.


Do you have a link to this?

iNcontrol as Zerg would be equally as awesome imo!

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=226208
Are you hurting ESPORTS? Find out today - http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=232866
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 06:51:37
June 16 2011 06:50 GMT
#14598
On June 16 2011 15:48 Gotmog wrote:
So guys ... what is that big announcement about EG that Idra hinted in the "inside the game" ?
Can't be only about the EG house, since we already know about that ?
Whatever it is, it should have been announced already...


OMG EG RAIN
Which episode is this? I must know!

On June 16 2011 15:50 Mailing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 15:47 Torte de Lini wrote:
On June 16 2011 15:44 Mailing wrote:
There was a showmatch series where people played off-race.

The guy running it said in the thread he would try to get IdrA to do it.

Though since he played terran in BW, he would probably play protoss in a sc2 off-race tourney.

I hope he does, as Minigun was like the only player there who could off-race well as zerg.


Do you have a link to this?

iNcontrol as Zerg would be equally as awesome imo!

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=226208


Boo, no idra.
But there is iNcontrol!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Gotmog
Profile Joined October 2010
Serbia899 Posts
June 16 2011 08:23 GMT
#14599
On June 16 2011 15:50 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 15:48 Gotmog wrote:
So guys ... what is that big announcement about EG that Idra hinted in the "inside the game" ?
Can't be only about the EG house, since we already know about that ?
Whatever it is, it should have been announced already...


OMG EG RAIN
Which episode is this? I must know!

Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 15:50 Mailing wrote:
On June 16 2011 15:47 Torte de Lini wrote:
On June 16 2011 15:44 Mailing wrote:
There was a showmatch series where people played off-race.

The guy running it said in the thread he would try to get IdrA to do it.

Though since he played terran in BW, he would probably play protoss in a sc2 off-race tourney.

I hope he does, as Minigun was like the only player there who could off-race well as zerg.


Do you have a link to this?

iNcontrol as Zerg would be equally as awesome imo!

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=226208


Boo, no idra.
But there is iNcontrol!

Last one.
"When you play the game of drones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground"
starcraft2rush
Profile Joined February 2011
306 Posts
June 16 2011 09:51 GMT
#14600
On June 16 2011 13:00 SleepTech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 12:22 Xiaon wrote:
still the best zerg
takes less risks then zenio


No, he is not the best zerg. Maybe best Zerg in NA perhaps. But definitely not 'the best'. I think Zenio is higher then Idra. When was the last time Idra beat Zenio?

It's hard to see Idra lose out but I don't really think he cares as much as he needs too. Hopefully soon, he'll start caring. I think you'll see him be unstoppable once that happens. But right now, top zerg in NA most likely.


Don't you mean best foreigner zerg? Who is better than IdrA from EU w/ zerg. Sen is the only other contender for this title.
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