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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 24 2011 02:13 GMT
#11041
Be careful, guys. I don't really want to moderate fanclub threads -_-

If zerg QQ offends you, you probably shouldn't have come to the Idra Fanclub in the first place, now should you?
ModeratorGood content always wins.
wrestlingfool08
Profile Joined November 2009
United States139 Posts
May 24 2011 02:14 GMT
#11042
Yea, the force fields were very powerful in that second game, but if Idra just doom drops in the main, he bypasses all force fields and takes out half production, most likely turning into a win. And first game I don't understand why he didn't target the forge after the first cannon. Don't think he played to his full potential those games.
MonsieurGrimm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada2441 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-24 02:17:11
May 24 2011 02:16 GMT
#11043
On May 24 2011 11:13 motbob wrote:
Be careful, guys. I don't really want to moderate fanclub threads -_-

If zerg QQ offends you, you probably shouldn't have come to the Idra Fanclub in the first place, now should you?

can I use the second part of this post in my signature?
"60% of the time, it works - every time" - Brian Fantana on Double Reactors All The Way // "Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people." - Eleanor Roosevelt
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 24 2011 02:18 GMT
#11044
On May 24 2011 11:16 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2011 11:13 motbob wrote:
Be careful, guys. I don't really want to moderate fanclub threads -_-

If zerg QQ offends you, you probably shouldn't have come to the Idra Fanclub in the first place, now should you?

can I use the second part of this post in my signature?

It's an honor if I get quoted by anyone in their sig.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
May 24 2011 02:19 GMT
#11045
On May 24 2011 11:13 motbob wrote:
Be careful, guys. I don't really want to moderate fanclub threads -_-

If zerg QQ offends you, you probably shouldn't have come to the Idra Fanclub in the first place, now should you?

motbob such a troll :lol :lol
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
May 24 2011 02:28 GMT
#11046
TBH I don't think IdrA is practicing a whole lot right now, I actually have the feeling he doesn't practice anywhere near as much as people think.

Wish he did, he'd actually be a lot better than he is now :/ . Just my 0.02, but it doesn't seem like he practices much these days unless it was a couple weeks before a big tournament.
MonsieurGrimm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada2441 Posts
May 24 2011 02:34 GMT
#11047
On May 24 2011 11:18 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2011 11:16 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
On May 24 2011 11:13 motbob wrote:
Be careful, guys. I don't really want to moderate fanclub threads -_-

If zerg QQ offends you, you probably shouldn't have come to the Idra Fanclub in the first place, now should you?

can I use the second part of this post in my signature?

It's an honor if I get quoted by anyone in their sig.

feel honoured :D
"60% of the time, it works - every time" - Brian Fantana on Double Reactors All The Way // "Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people." - Eleanor Roosevelt
DharmaTurtle
Profile Joined August 2010
United States283 Posts
May 24 2011 02:36 GMT
#11048
I didn't come into this thread to flame/troll/antagonize. I did poorly on that third part (nods to motbob), but all my points have been valid, haven't they?

I came because I knew there would be people complaining about imba, and merely pointed out critical mistakes in Idra's play. His micro was not perfect, and too many people concentrated on "He has a 50 food lead!" to consider of other aspects of the match. SC2 is not a food race. If people get riled up over my pokes at Idra's play in a fanclub thread that and I get (temp)banned... well shucks. I'll try not to disturb the hive.

I like Zerg; Destiny is one of my favorite players. But I can't abide statements like "Spam forcefields counters Zerg T3", which is blatantly false.
I went from bronze to platinum in 3 awesome days.
MonsieurGrimm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada2441 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-24 02:44:32
May 24 2011 02:42 GMT
#11049
On May 24 2011 11:36 DharmaTurtle wrote:
I came because I knew there would be people complaining about imba

that should be the reason for you not to come in here T____T
But I can't abide statements like "Spam forcefields counters Zerg T3", which is blatantly false.

good luck on your personal crusade to cleanse the forums of balance whine and false statements, I suppose...
"60% of the time, it works - every time" - Brian Fantana on Double Reactors All The Way // "Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people." - Eleanor Roosevelt
SuperStyle
Profile Joined March 2011
United States976 Posts
May 24 2011 02:42 GMT
#11050
On May 24 2011 11:13 motbob wrote:
Be careful, guys. I don't really want to moderate fanclub threads -_-

If zerg QQ offends you, you probably shouldn't have come to the Idra Fanclub in the first place, now should you?


Does that mean i can go to Naniwa fanclub and qq about how week protoss is and zerg is not ?(Im not saying that that is the situation btw)
Because it seems to me that ur allowing people to whine about balance with no consequences in here.
MonsieurGrimm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada2441 Posts
May 24 2011 02:45 GMT
#11051
On May 24 2011 11:42 SuperStyle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2011 11:13 motbob wrote:
Be careful, guys. I don't really want to moderate fanclub threads -_-

If zerg QQ offends you, you probably shouldn't have come to the Idra Fanclub in the first place, now should you?


Does that mean i can go to Naniwa fanclub and qq about how week protoss is and zerg is not ?(Im not saying that that is the situation btw)
Because it seems to me that ur allowing people to whine about balance with no consequences in here.

the first part of his post indicates the opposite: if the whine becomes too much, consequences will be applied
"60% of the time, it works - every time" - Brian Fantana on Double Reactors All The Way // "Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people." - Eleanor Roosevelt
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 24 2011 02:46 GMT
#11052
On May 24 2011 11:36 DharmaTurtle wrote:
I didn't come into this thread to flame/troll/antagonize. I did poorly on that third part (nods to motbob), but all my points have been valid, haven't they?

I came because I knew there would be people complaining about imba, and merely pointed out critical mistakes in Idra's play. His micro was not perfect, and too many people concentrated on "He has a 50 food lead!" to consider of other aspects of the match. SC2 is not a food race. If people get riled up over my pokes at Idra's play in a fanclub thread that and I get (temp)banned... well shucks. I'll try not to disturb the hive.

I like Zerg; Destiny is one of my favorite players. But I can't abide statements like "Spam forcefields counters Zerg T3", which is blatantly false.

sure, but food is generally a good indicator as to whos ahead.
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Moralez
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1857 Posts
May 24 2011 02:50 GMT
#11053
On May 24 2011 11:13 motbob wrote:
Be careful, guys. I don't really want to moderate fanclub threads -_-

If zerg QQ offends you, you probably shouldn't have come to the Idra Fanclub in the first place, now should you?


Enough said.
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Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
May 24 2011 02:50 GMT
#11054
It's a shame. I watched this series a week ago and knew what the reaction would be.

It's interesting how shitty 15 brood lords are without ground units to support them, but they cost so much gas that idra was at like 2000/0 when he attack came and couldn't even afford roaches to defend the brood lords
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whatdoido
Profile Joined October 2010
United States80 Posts
May 24 2011 02:53 GMT
#11055
hope to see idra rock MLG.

win or lose he always manages to bring epic games




+ Show Spoiler [StarsWars tournament] +

Game 2: Metalopolis
xiaOt was really good, he kept trying to scout in one direction with his group of blink stalkers to spot any attacks coming; with blink you can get away pretty easily. Back at his base, between his natural expansion and 3rd base, he kept sentries / immortals to forcefield against any counter attacks while his blink stalkers were scouting any attacks coming from the other side.

xiaOt also individually targets idra's infestors with his collosi in that huge battle near the protoss 3rd base. Losing 4 - 5 infestors there was really crucial, after that he couldn't really stop his broodlords that were incoming from dying to blink.

One thing to consider during these games is the delay or lag. I assume it's played on the chinese or korean server, not the north american server.

The first game though ... not much to say. Idra is convinced that zerg has no chance vs a nexus first protoss, so every time i see that vs idra I know a roach / ling all in is coming. I didn't think xiaOt would be able to stop it, but he did somehow.



Has idra given a more detailed explanation of his thoughts on protoss in general? Does he think at some point of skill protoss will always beat zerg, or is his view that zerg just has to play much better to beat protoss? I mean, I assume there's a skill cap somewhere here ... if idra the protoss vs idra the zerg somehow happened without the universe imploding, would idra the protoss win every single time?





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DharmaTurtle
Profile Joined August 2010
United States283 Posts
May 24 2011 03:02 GMT
#11056
sure, but food is generally a good indicator as to whos ahead.

Oh, I agree completely! Idra was ahead, and by quite a bit.

He just did nothing with his food advantage and allowed Toss to max out. This was a crucial mistake and renders the previous food advantage completely pointless.
I went from bronze to platinum in 3 awesome days.
Moralez
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1857 Posts
May 24 2011 03:17 GMT
#11057
On May 24 2011 12:02 DharmaTurtle wrote:
Show nested quote +
sure, but food is generally a good indicator as to whos ahead.

Oh, I agree completely! Idra was ahead, and by quite a bit.

He just did nothing with his food advantage and allowed Toss to max out. This was a crucial mistake and renders the previous food advantage completely pointless.


He did nothing because he couldnt, because of 15 sentries can't you understand that?

/facepalm

He tried to attack he just kept getting FFed back and loosing units >_<
Master League Zerg - EGIdrA - IMNesTea - EGMachine - EGIncoNtrol - IMLosirA - Destiny - MVPDRG -
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
May 24 2011 03:23 GMT
#11058
On May 24 2011 11:53 whatdoido wrote:
hope to see idra rock MLG.

win or lose he always manages to bring epic games




+ Show Spoiler [StarsWars tournament] +

Game 2: Metalopolis
xiaOt was really good, he kept trying to scout in one direction with his group of blink stalkers to spot any attacks coming; with blink you can get away pretty easily. Back at his base, between his natural expansion and 3rd base, he kept sentries / immortals to forcefield against any counter attacks while his blink stalkers were scouting any attacks coming from the other side.

xiaOt also individually targets idra's infestors with his collosi in that huge battle near the protoss 3rd base. Losing 4 - 5 infestors there was really crucial, after that he couldn't really stop his broodlords that were incoming from dying to blink.

One thing to consider during these games is the delay or lag. I assume it's played on the chinese or korean server, not the north american server.

The first game though ... not much to say. Idra is convinced that zerg has no chance vs a nexus first protoss, so every time i see that vs idra I know a roach / ling all in is coming. I didn't think xiaOt would be able to stop it, but he did somehow.



Has idra given a more detailed explanation of his thoughts on protoss in general? Does he think at some point of skill protoss will always beat zerg, or is his view that zerg just has to play much better to beat protoss? I mean, I assume there's a skill cap somewhere here ... if idra the protoss vs idra the zerg somehow happened without the universe imploding, would idra the protoss win every single time?

+ Show Spoiler +
To clear up any misunderstandings: Game 1 was played on the CHN server, Game 2 on the NA server, so they both had to deal with lag. It's a good system, I think, as it pretty much gives both players home server advantage at least once. I'm not sure what they would've done had it gone onto a Game 3. Neutral server?
NPHarris
Profile Joined May 2011
91 Posts
May 24 2011 03:28 GMT
#11059
Loser picks server perhaps-
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
May 24 2011 03:33 GMT
#11060
On May 24 2011 12:02 DharmaTurtle wrote:
Show nested quote +
sure, but food is generally a good indicator as to whos ahead.

Oh, I agree completely! Idra was ahead, and by quite a bit.

He just did nothing with his food advantage and allowed Toss to max out. This was a crucial mistake and renders the previous food advantage completely pointless.



Err, but you don't really want to attack into a protoss army with forcefields.
I don't think sacrificing an army just to damage his is a better solution then building up your tech/pooled resources, and trying to remax on a good comp to beat it.
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