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On April 23 2011 18:09 Starlos wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2011 17:35 Panzarpaddan wrote:
So I got warned by a mod even though I warned in text and put in a spoiler...
Where can I see all IdrAs matches from the IPL? You know, there's a huge warning sign. Read it next time. But for your information, you can simply watch in the live stream section of the website, and it'll be there.
TBH the warning is ambiguous between spoiling with and without a spoiler tag... It's only if you read back 5 or so pages do you understand that there was a huge debate about whether to spoil unaired matches with spoiler tags in place. The mods decided it's not ok, for some reason.
As for the vods: (Sometimes doesn't show all games, just click "games" on the left and then "filter").
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On April 23 2011 21:04 Ghanburighan wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2011 18:09 Starlos wrote:On April 23 2011 17:35 Panzarpaddan wrote:
So I got warned by a mod even though I warned in text and put in a spoiler...
Where can I see all IdrAs matches from the IPL? You know, there's a huge warning sign. Read it next time. But for your information, you can simply watch in the live stream section of the website, and it'll be there. TBH the warning is ambiguous between spoiling with and without a spoiler tag... It's only if you read back 5 or so pages do you understand that there was a huge debate about whether to spoil unaired matches with spoiler tags in place. The mods decided it's not ok, for some reason. As for the vods: (Sometimes doesn't show all games, just click "games" on the left and then "filter").
I don't know. Seemed pretty clear to me.
And the "for some reason" is obviously because EVEN WITH A SPOILER TAG, YOU CAN'T EXPECT A SPOILER ABOUT A FUTURE EVENT. Also, it's bad with the liquibet (even though there was nothing about the IPL) and the tournament itself.
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On April 23 2011 23:24 Starlos wrote:
And the "for some reason" is obviously because EVEN WITH A SPOILER TAG, YOU CAN'T EXPECT A SPOILER ABOUT A FUTURE EVENT. Also, it's bad with the liquibet (even though there was nothing about the IPL) and the tournament itself.
It's not a future event. It's games that have already been played. The fact that IGN didn't show them yet does not postpone the actual games to the future. And if you write something like "contains spoilers of IPL games that have not yet been aired" you can expect that spoiler to contain just that.
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idra needs to stream some more
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On April 23 2011 23:44 Let it Raine wrote:
idra needs to stream some more
i totally agree. he might be taking a break. there has been a lot of tournaments going on for him right now.
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Just saw game2, IdrA's match against Drewbie looked more like IdrA smurfing copper league players.
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On April 23 2011 23:57 Asparagus wrote:
Just saw game2, IdrA's match against Drewbie looked more like IdrA smurfing copper league players.
Drewbie just made a ton of stupid mistakes that added up and cost him the game... losing a bunch of Hellions and other stuff like that are simple mistakes you can't make at this level of the game.
Well deserved win by Grack.
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On April 24 2011 01:20 n00bspanker wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2011 23:57 Asparagus wrote:
Just saw game2, IdrA's match against Drewbie looked more like IdrA smurfing copper league players. Drewbie just made a ton of stupid mistakes that added up and cost him the game... losing a bunch of Hellions and other stuff like that are simple mistakes you can't make at this level of the game. Well deserved win by Grack.
i dont think mass thors ever works. honestly.. a zerg can literally make any unit and beat that, thor is a support unit. idk what drewbie was doing
gj :O
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On April 23 2011 23:34 blackone wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2011 23:24 Starlos wrote:
And the "for some reason" is obviously because EVEN WITH A SPOILER TAG, YOU CAN'T EXPECT A SPOILER ABOUT A FUTURE EVENT. Also, it's bad with the liquibet (even though there was nothing about the IPL) and the tournament itself. It's not a future event. It's games that have already been played. The fact that IGN didn't show them yet does not postpone the actual games to the future. And if you write something like "contains spoilers of IPL games that have not yet been aired" you can expect that spoiler to contain just that.
Obviously the fact that people can stalk that way to spot these games is a downside of this way to broadcast. Think about it this way, they're doing it that way not because they're lazy, but because it represents a lot of good points to it. It's easier for the players to schedule a match, the spectator can't cause lag, etc.
IdrA himself said that broadcasting replays instead of live games was the best way to go. So if you want to keep spoiling games that haven't been aired yet, it fuck up the tournaments and go against that way of doing things. By doing so it's like going against IdrA's will because if tournaments choose not to broadcast replays then players will have to deal with the old style (live games broadcasted).
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I didn't spoil anything, I didn't say they should stream live, I just said it's dumb to forbid talking about these games if IGN is to stupid to keep them a secret.
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On April 24 2011 01:26 Starlos wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2011 23:34 blackone wrote:On April 23 2011 23:24 Starlos wrote:
And the "for some reason" is obviously because EVEN WITH A SPOILER TAG, YOU CAN'T EXPECT A SPOILER ABOUT A FUTURE EVENT. Also, it's bad with the liquibet (even though there was nothing about the IPL) and the tournament itself. It's not a future event. It's games that have already been played. The fact that IGN didn't show them yet does not postpone the actual games to the future. And if you write something like "contains spoilers of IPL games that have not yet been aired" you can expect that spoiler to contain just that. Obviously the fact that people can stalk that way to spot these games is a downside of this way to broadcast. Think about it this way, they're doing it that way not because they're lazy, but because it represents a lot of good points to it. It's easier for the players to schedule a match, the spectator can't cause lag, etc. IdrA himself said that broadcasting replays instead of live games was the best way to go. So if you want to keep spoiling games that haven't been aired yet, it fuck up the tournaments and go against that way of doing things. By doing so it's like going against IdrA's will because if tournaments choose not to broadcast replays then players will have to deal with the old style (live games broadcasted).
You can cast from replays and not get spoilers with guestaccounts or special custom maps that bug out match history. TSL does it too and they take precaution with guest accounts and there are no spoilers.
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On April 24 2011 01:33 blackone wrote:
I didn't spoil anything, I didn't say they should stream live, I just said it's dumb to forbid talking about these games if IGN is to stupid to keep them a secret.
I fail to understand your point. Are you against the delayed broadcast "technique" ? Because it sounds like it.
EDIT: Yes, I see what you mean by that. Guest accounts might be a good solution. Still, it's weird to stalk a player then tell everybody of the outcome of said tournament.
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On April 24 2011 01:36 Starlos wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 01:33 blackone wrote:
I didn't spoil anything, I didn't say they should stream live, I just said it's dumb to forbid talking about these games if IGN is to stupid to keep them a secret. I fail to understand your point. Are you against the delayed broadcast "technique" ? Because it sounds like it.
I don't see what's hard to understand there, I'm just saying it's stupid to forbid talking about the results when they have already been leaked. I'm not talking about their broadcast system at all.
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On April 23 2011 16:22 blade55555 wrote:
Ah awesome IGN pro league vods are already up ^_^
where!? 
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Idra is lookin like a BBBBBEAST lately
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On April 24 2011 01:21 Warrice wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 01:20 n00bspanker wrote:On April 23 2011 23:57 Asparagus wrote:
Just saw game2, IdrA's match against Drewbie looked more like IdrA smurfing copper league players. Drewbie just made a ton of stupid mistakes that added up and cost him the game... losing a bunch of Hellions and other stuff like that are simple mistakes you can't make at this level of the game. Well deserved win by Grack. i dont think mass thors ever works. honestly.. a zerg can literally make any unit and beat that, thor is a support unit. idk what drewbie was doing gj :O
You guys are so funny. That build is incredibly strong in GM. TLO and Drewbie are good players and they have success with it. IdrA has lost to it before. Don't try and belittle great players to make yourself feel like you're better at the game.
When your on 4 base as Terran loosing a few hellions is meaningless you can be maxed with any units you want. If you turtle to 200 vs zerg you better be sure they cant beat you army otherwise you lose because they have the map. To win with mech you have to do damage at some point against a good zerg because there is a unit comp that destroys thor hellion semi cost efficiently. Youno like in freaking brood war.
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On April 24 2011 02:26 blackone wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 01:36 Starlos wrote:On April 24 2011 01:33 blackone wrote:
I didn't spoil anything, I didn't say they should stream live, I just said it's dumb to forbid talking about these games if IGN is to stupid to keep them a secret. I fail to understand your point. Are you against the delayed broadcast "technique" ? Because it sounds like it. I don't see what's hard to understand there, I'm just saying it's stupid to forbid talking about the results when they have already been leaked. I'm not talking about their broadcast system at all.
As far as I know, teamliquid mods manage their things by themselves. If they deem it wrong to leak these information, then it's their own right to do so. You can't not understand the reason behind that. It's a website made for SC:BW and SC2 and supporting tournaments to it's fullest is one of it's goal. They want the e-sport the grow, and leaking the results of a tournament (which is nice) isn't going to help.
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On April 24 2011 01:33 blackone wrote:
I didn't spoil anything, I didn't say they should stream live, I just said it's dumb to forbid talking about these games if IGN is to stupid to keep them a secret.
Not everyone has been spoiled if teamliquid want to keep it that way well... they can do whatever they want.
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I don't see how arguing about spoiler tags is appropriate in a fan club. The policy is clear now, do not spoil IGN results. That should be the end of this.
I actually thought that Drewbie played well in the second game (I'm T myself), until I saw how Idra dismantled him with great muta and battle micro. This has been said before but Idra never fails to entertain, and TB crying "MUTINY!" helped as well.
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