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^certainly. if we are more frustrated than Grack himself, how can he not be frustrated?
IdrA fighting!
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On August 04 2012 17:49 walklightwhat wrote:
I think the only person expecting too much from IdrA is Greg himself.
Maybe I'm off base, but I get the feeling from watching him that he just needs to relax and take his results as they come and keep working on getting back into shape from his extreme low period. Getting pissed off and impatient for tournament results is only going to hurt in the long run.
"If you can accept losing, you can't win" - Vince Lombardi
Not everyone is wired the same way. I for one, cannot "relax" or just shrug off losses. Doesn't mean IdrA is not working or practicing etc. Getting pissed off is not his choice. It is how his brain reacts to losses. And that can't be changed easily if at all.
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On August 04 2012 19:20 tragedy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2012 17:49 walklightwhat wrote:
I think the only person expecting too much from IdrA is Greg himself.
Maybe I'm off base, but I get the feeling from watching him that he just needs to relax and take his results as they come and keep working on getting back into shape from his extreme low period. Getting pissed off and impatient for tournament results is only going to hurt in the long run. "If you can accept losing, you can't win" - Vince LombardiNot everyone is wired the same way. I for one, cannot "relax" or just shrug off losses. Doesn't mean IdrA is not working or practicing etc. Getting pissed off is not his choice. It is how his brain reacts to losses. And that can't be changed easily if at all.
This is beyond stupid,
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On August 04 2012 19:27 RageBot wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2012 19:20 tragedy wrote:On August 04 2012 17:49 walklightwhat wrote:
I think the only person expecting too much from IdrA is Greg himself.
Maybe I'm off base, but I get the feeling from watching him that he just needs to relax and take his results as they come and keep working on getting back into shape from his extreme low period. Getting pissed off and impatient for tournament results is only going to hurt in the long run. "If you can accept losing, you can't win" - Vince LombardiNot everyone is wired the same way. I for one, cannot "relax" or just shrug off losses. Doesn't mean IdrA is not working or practicing etc. Getting pissed off is not his choice. It is how his brain reacts to losses. And that can't be changed easily if at all. This is beyond stupid,
No. It isn't.
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On August 04 2012 19:20 tragedy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2012 17:49 walklightwhat wrote:
I think the only person expecting too much from IdrA is Greg himself.
Maybe I'm off base, but I get the feeling from watching him that he just needs to relax and take his results as they come and keep working on getting back into shape from his extreme low period. Getting pissed off and impatient for tournament results is only going to hurt in the long run. "If you can accept losing, you can't win" - Vince Lombardi Not everyone is wired the same way. I for one, cannot "relax" or just shrug off losses. Doesn't mean IdrA is not working or practicing etc. Getting pissed off is not his choice. It is how his brain reacts to losses. And that can't be changed easily if at all.
I'm not talking about getting angry at losing. Right now, it appears to me he's playing tense, getting extremely frustrated with mistakes/sloppy play and that's building up and adding more pressure than there already is.
There's a difference between getting angry at losing and letting that anger damage your playing ability.
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On August 04 2012 19:27 RageBot wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2012 19:20 tragedy wrote:On August 04 2012 17:49 walklightwhat wrote:
I think the only person expecting too much from IdrA is Greg himself.
Maybe I'm off base, but I get the feeling from watching him that he just needs to relax and take his results as they come and keep working on getting back into shape from his extreme low period. Getting pissed off and impatient for tournament results is only going to hurt in the long run. "If you can accept losing, you can't win" - Vince LombardiNot everyone is wired the same way. I for one, cannot "relax" or just shrug off losses. Doesn't mean IdrA is not working or practicing etc. Getting pissed off is not his choice. It is how his brain reacts to losses. And that can't be changed easily if at all. This is beyond stupid,
If you don't understand it, doesn't make it stupid.
It is actually an excelent quote from a great american football coach.
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On August 04 2012 21:14 tragedy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2012 19:27 RageBot wrote:On August 04 2012 19:20 tragedy wrote:On August 04 2012 17:49 walklightwhat wrote:
I think the only person expecting too much from IdrA is Greg himself.
Maybe I'm off base, but I get the feeling from watching him that he just needs to relax and take his results as they come and keep working on getting back into shape from his extreme low period. Getting pissed off and impatient for tournament results is only going to hurt in the long run. "If you can accept losing, you can't win" - Vince LombardiNot everyone is wired the same way. I for one, cannot "relax" or just shrug off losses. Doesn't mean IdrA is not working or practicing etc. Getting pissed off is not his choice. It is how his brain reacts to losses. And that can't be changed easily if at all. This is beyond stupid, If you don't understand it, doesn't make it stupid. It is actually an excelent quote from a great american football coach.
It makes no sense in the context of Starcraft. People lose all the time, it's part of growing and learning. If you're not losing you're not playing the damn game. If you can't accept losing in starcraft it prob means you're whiney and cry imba imba all the time blaming your losses on outside factors and not growing as a player.
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On August 04 2012 21:25 Tachion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2012 21:14 tragedy wrote:On August 04 2012 19:27 RageBot wrote:On August 04 2012 19:20 tragedy wrote:On August 04 2012 17:49 walklightwhat wrote:
I think the only person expecting too much from IdrA is Greg himself.
Maybe I'm off base, but I get the feeling from watching him that he just needs to relax and take his results as they come and keep working on getting back into shape from his extreme low period. Getting pissed off and impatient for tournament results is only going to hurt in the long run. "If you can accept losing, you can't win" - Vince LombardiNot everyone is wired the same way. I for one, cannot "relax" or just shrug off losses. Doesn't mean IdrA is not working or practicing etc. Getting pissed off is not his choice. It is how his brain reacts to losses. And that can't be changed easily if at all. This is beyond stupid, If you don't understand it, doesn't make it stupid. It is actually an excelent quote from a great american football coach. It makes no sense in the context of Starcraft. People lose all the time, it's part of growing and learning. If you're not losing you're not playing the damn game. If you can't accept losing in starcraft it prob means you're whiney and cry imba imba all the time blaming your losses on outside factors and not growing as a player.
What? This is hilarious to read, are you even serious?
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On August 04 2012 21:32 Facultyadjutant wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2012 21:25 Tachion wrote:On August 04 2012 21:14 tragedy wrote:On August 04 2012 19:27 RageBot wrote:On August 04 2012 19:20 tragedy wrote:On August 04 2012 17:49 walklightwhat wrote:
I think the only person expecting too much from IdrA is Greg himself.
Maybe I'm off base, but I get the feeling from watching him that he just needs to relax and take his results as they come and keep working on getting back into shape from his extreme low period. Getting pissed off and impatient for tournament results is only going to hurt in the long run. "If you can accept losing, you can't win" - Vince LombardiNot everyone is wired the same way. I for one, cannot "relax" or just shrug off losses. Doesn't mean IdrA is not working or practicing etc. Getting pissed off is not his choice. It is how his brain reacts to losses. And that can't be changed easily if at all. This is beyond stupid, If you don't understand it, doesn't make it stupid. It is actually an excelent quote from a great american football coach. It makes no sense in the context of Starcraft. People lose all the time, it's part of growing and learning. If you're not losing you're not playing the damn game. If you can't accept losing in starcraft it prob means you're whiney and cry imba imba all the time blaming your losses on outside factors and not growing as a player. What? This is hilarious to read, are you even serious?
are you? try adding something of value with a post.
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On August 04 2012 21:34 Tachion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2012 21:32 Facultyadjutant wrote:On August 04 2012 21:25 Tachion wrote:On August 04 2012 21:14 tragedy wrote:On August 04 2012 19:27 RageBot wrote:On August 04 2012 19:20 tragedy wrote:On August 04 2012 17:49 walklightwhat wrote:
I think the only person expecting too much from IdrA is Greg himself.
Maybe I'm off base, but I get the feeling from watching him that he just needs to relax and take his results as they come and keep working on getting back into shape from his extreme low period. Getting pissed off and impatient for tournament results is only going to hurt in the long run. "If you can accept losing, you can't win" - Vince LombardiNot everyone is wired the same way. I for one, cannot "relax" or just shrug off losses. Doesn't mean IdrA is not working or practicing etc. Getting pissed off is not his choice. It is how his brain reacts to losses. And that can't be changed easily if at all. This is beyond stupid, If you don't understand it, doesn't make it stupid. It is actually an excelent quote from a great american football coach. It makes no sense in the context of Starcraft. People lose all the time, it's part of growing and learning. If you're not losing you're not playing the damn game. If you can't accept losing in starcraft it prob means you're whiney and cry imba imba all the time blaming your losses on outside factors and not growing as a player. What? This is hilarious to read, are you even serious? are you? try adding something of value with a post.
You're really not adding anything here yourself, as your post actually was hilarious.
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On August 04 2012 21:34 Tachion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2012 21:32 Facultyadjutant wrote:On August 04 2012 21:25 Tachion wrote:On August 04 2012 21:14 tragedy wrote:On August 04 2012 19:27 RageBot wrote:On August 04 2012 19:20 tragedy wrote:On August 04 2012 17:49 walklightwhat wrote:
I think the only person expecting too much from IdrA is Greg himself.
Maybe I'm off base, but I get the feeling from watching him that he just needs to relax and take his results as they come and keep working on getting back into shape from his extreme low period. Getting pissed off and impatient for tournament results is only going to hurt in the long run. "If you can accept losing, you can't win" - Vince LombardiNot everyone is wired the same way. I for one, cannot "relax" or just shrug off losses. Doesn't mean IdrA is not working or practicing etc. Getting pissed off is not his choice. It is how his brain reacts to losses. And that can't be changed easily if at all. This is beyond stupid, If you don't understand it, doesn't make it stupid. It is actually an excelent quote from a great american football coach. It makes no sense in the context of Starcraft. People lose all the time, it's part of growing and learning. If you're not losing you're not playing the damn game. If you can't accept losing in starcraft it prob means you're whiney and cry imba imba all the time blaming your losses on outside factors and not growing as a player. What? This is hilarious to read, are you even serious? are you? try adding something of value with a post.
'' If you can't accept losing in starcraft it prob means you're whiney and cry imba imba all the time blaming your losses on outside factors and not growing as a player.''
Come on dude
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Is he not famous for being stubborn in that regard and stagnating his play as a result? Yes? Oh ok.
He's obviously getting better about it but not accepting personal responsibility for his losses was a terrible hindrance to his performance.
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On August 04 2012 21:25 Tachion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2012 21:14 tragedy wrote:On August 04 2012 19:27 RageBot wrote:On August 04 2012 19:20 tragedy wrote:On August 04 2012 17:49 walklightwhat wrote:
I think the only person expecting too much from IdrA is Greg himself.
Maybe I'm off base, but I get the feeling from watching him that he just needs to relax and take his results as they come and keep working on getting back into shape from his extreme low period. Getting pissed off and impatient for tournament results is only going to hurt in the long run. "If you can accept losing, you can't win" - Vince LombardiNot everyone is wired the same way. I for one, cannot "relax" or just shrug off losses. Doesn't mean IdrA is not working or practicing etc. Getting pissed off is not his choice. It is how his brain reacts to losses. And that can't be changed easily if at all. This is beyond stupid, If you don't understand it, doesn't make it stupid. It is actually an excelent quote from a great american football coach. It makes no sense in the context of Starcraft. People lose all the time, it's part of growing and learning. If you're not losing you're not playing the damn game. If you can't accept losing in starcraft it prob means you're whiney and cry imba imba all the time blaming your losses on outside factors and not growing as a player.
This guy is totally right, not sure why you people are trashing him.
Learning from losses and not getting discouraged is one of the most important elements for a successful starcraft player.
Taken from NoNy's sig: "Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win."
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On August 04 2012 21:43 YourAdHere wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2012 21:25 Tachion wrote:On August 04 2012 21:14 tragedy wrote:On August 04 2012 19:27 RageBot wrote:On August 04 2012 19:20 tragedy wrote:On August 04 2012 17:49 walklightwhat wrote:
I think the only person expecting too much from IdrA is Greg himself.
Maybe I'm off base, but I get the feeling from watching him that he just needs to relax and take his results as they come and keep working on getting back into shape from his extreme low period. Getting pissed off and impatient for tournament results is only going to hurt in the long run. "If you can accept losing, you can't win" - Vince LombardiNot everyone is wired the same way. I for one, cannot "relax" or just shrug off losses. Doesn't mean IdrA is not working or practicing etc. Getting pissed off is not his choice. It is how his brain reacts to losses. And that can't be changed easily if at all. This is beyond stupid, If you don't understand it, doesn't make it stupid. It is actually an excelent quote from a great american football coach. It makes no sense in the context of Starcraft. People lose all the time, it's part of growing and learning. If you're not losing you're not playing the damn game. If you can't accept losing in starcraft it prob means you're whiney and cry imba imba all the time blaming your losses on outside factors and not growing as a player. This guy is totally right, not sure why you people are trashing him. Learning from losses and not getting discouraged is one of the most important elements for a successful starcraft player. Taken from NoNy's sig: "Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win."
Obviously just getting frustrated is bad, the trashing was about the presumption and complete irrelevancy to the quote.
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On August 04 2012 21:53 Facultyadjutant wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2012 21:43 YourAdHere wrote:On August 04 2012 21:25 Tachion wrote:On August 04 2012 21:14 tragedy wrote:On August 04 2012 19:27 RageBot wrote:On August 04 2012 19:20 tragedy wrote:On August 04 2012 17:49 walklightwhat wrote:
I think the only person expecting too much from IdrA is Greg himself.
Maybe I'm off base, but I get the feeling from watching him that he just needs to relax and take his results as they come and keep working on getting back into shape from his extreme low period. Getting pissed off and impatient for tournament results is only going to hurt in the long run. "If you can accept losing, you can't win" - Vince LombardiNot everyone is wired the same way. I for one, cannot "relax" or just shrug off losses. Doesn't mean IdrA is not working or practicing etc. Getting pissed off is not his choice. It is how his brain reacts to losses. And that can't be changed easily if at all. This is beyond stupid, If you don't understand it, doesn't make it stupid. It is actually an excelent quote from a great american football coach. It makes no sense in the context of Starcraft. People lose all the time, it's part of growing and learning. If you're not losing you're not playing the damn game. If you can't accept losing in starcraft it prob means you're whiney and cry imba imba all the time blaming your losses on outside factors and not growing as a player. This guy is totally right, not sure why you people are trashing him. Learning from losses and not getting discouraged is one of the most important elements for a successful starcraft player. Taken from NoNy's sig: "Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Obviously just getting frustrated is bad, the trashing was about the presumption and complete irrelevancy to the quote.
Its wording is very broad, "accepting losing" can be interpreted in more than one way. You never bothered to explain yours, but still feel the need to keep making posts that add nothing to the discussion.
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No point in checking results for Idra. Just check the fan club for people arguing about irrelevant trash.
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;x You're right it is the wrong place for it, apologies.
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On August 04 2012 21:25 Tachion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2012 21:14 tragedy wrote:On August 04 2012 19:27 RageBot wrote:On August 04 2012 19:20 tragedy wrote:On August 04 2012 17:49 walklightwhat wrote:
I think the only person expecting too much from IdrA is Greg himself.
Maybe I'm off base, but I get the feeling from watching him that he just needs to relax and take his results as they come and keep working on getting back into shape from his extreme low period. Getting pissed off and impatient for tournament results is only going to hurt in the long run. "If you can accept losing, you can't win" - Vince LombardiNot everyone is wired the same way. I for one, cannot "relax" or just shrug off losses. Doesn't mean IdrA is not working or practicing etc. Getting pissed off is not his choice. It is how his brain reacts to losses. And that can't be changed easily if at all. This is beyond stupid, If you don't understand it, doesn't make it stupid. It is actually an excelent quote from a great american football coach. It makes no sense in the context of Starcraft. People lose all the time, it's part of growing and learning. If you're not losing you're not playing the damn game. If you can't accept losing in starcraft it prob means you're whiney and cry imba imba all the time blaming your losses on outside factors and not growing as a player.
You are really wrong and missed the point of that quote.
It describes how people react to losses and how they take in losses to improve and get better.
Nothing to do with what you wrote. Every loss is a lesson to learn from. People like me, will get angry/frustrated and take every loss "hard" and improve out of every loss.
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On August 04 2012 22:09 tragedy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2012 21:25 Tachion wrote:On August 04 2012 21:14 tragedy wrote:On August 04 2012 19:27 RageBot wrote:On August 04 2012 19:20 tragedy wrote:On August 04 2012 17:49 walklightwhat wrote:
I think the only person expecting too much from IdrA is Greg himself.
Maybe I'm off base, but I get the feeling from watching him that he just needs to relax and take his results as they come and keep working on getting back into shape from his extreme low period. Getting pissed off and impatient for tournament results is only going to hurt in the long run. "If you can accept losing, you can't win" - Vince LombardiNot everyone is wired the same way. I for one, cannot "relax" or just shrug off losses. Doesn't mean IdrA is not working or practicing etc. Getting pissed off is not his choice. It is how his brain reacts to losses. And that can't be changed easily if at all. This is beyond stupid, If you don't understand it, doesn't make it stupid. It is actually an excelent quote from a great american football coach. It makes no sense in the context of Starcraft. People lose all the time, it's part of growing and learning. If you're not losing you're not playing the damn game. If you can't accept losing in starcraft it prob means you're whiney and cry imba imba all the time blaming your losses on outside factors and not growing as a player. You are really wrong and missed the point of that quote. It describes how people react to losses and how they take in losses to improve and get better. Nothing to do with what you wrote. Every loss is a lesson to learn from. People like me, will get angry/frustrated and take every loss "hard" and improve out of every loss.
Well, I think you guys have to be more specific. Losing is definitely a part of the game, but how you react to it at a mayor tournament is a different thing and separates a real champ from someone like Idra. I mean, since the start of SC2 Idra has always been complaining about balance and stuff where others just made out the best of it because they knew things will change.
Also, Idras mindset 1 1/2 year ago wasn't better, maybe even worse and he was doing pretty good, even at Code S. I personally think that Idra may have reached his highest possible skill level and that's it. I mean, Idra had tons of Starcraft training, very good mechanics and so on, that really gave him an edge at the beginning of Starcraft 2 compared to other players, but normally, as time goes by that relativizes.
It's just my opinion, so pls don't flame, but maybe you are expecting too much from Idra. He never was a player who was winning tournaments left and right. He was more known because of his time in korea and his odd personality.
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