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Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
August 03 2012 18:33 GMT
#48421
On August 04 2012 03:25 Vandrad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 03:21 ThePlayer33 wrote:
games vs puma wasn't like absolutely horrible, but his read on puma is completely off.


Unfortunetaly IdrA is just really bad at reading his opponents
which is why Stephano is always great and IdrA only if he can play "his game"

I don't really think that's true at all. I think today was mostly about failing to build up momentum, and perhaps having a bad day in general
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
NOOBALOPSE
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada802 Posts
August 03 2012 18:33 GMT
#48422
On August 04 2012 03:32 Aocowns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 03:28 Tyree wrote:
Either he goes back to Korea and grinds it out for months and gets back into shape and has a realistic chance against these players or just sticks to the US and the teamhouse but has to lower his expectations what he can accomplish.

Considering that HotS is coming out in the next few months is probably smarter to just stay in US and maybe later take a trip to Korea when HotS is out and grind it out.

Its just not realistic to expect someone with Idras training regiment to compete with the stuff Taeja, Moon and Puma (who moved back to Korea) get on a daily basis.

He had a realistic chance against Taeja despite only practicing in US. When Idra gets going he plays really good, when he loses 0-3 in shit games wheere his opponent didn't really play ''better'' he won't do that good when made to play elimination games 5 minutes after. Go figure

Yeah, i think he needs to work a lot on his mindset, because when he is not on tilt he plays fucking amazingly.
NOOBALOPSE
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada802 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-03 18:36:15
August 03 2012 18:35 GMT
#48423
On August 04 2012 03:33 Aocowns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 03:25 Vandrad wrote:
On August 04 2012 03:21 ThePlayer33 wrote:
games vs puma wasn't like absolutely horrible, but his read on puma is completely off.


Unfortunetaly IdrA is just really bad at reading his opponents
which is why Stephano is always great and IdrA only if he can play "his game"

I don't really think that's true at all. I think today was mostly about failing to build up momentum, and perhaps having a bad day in general

I agree, he was extremely tired just looking at his eyes...
EDIT: i think that those games against moon which took like 0 skill were what brought him so down.
He knows his mistake though, we don't need to point it out.
Vandrad
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany951 Posts
August 03 2012 18:36 GMT
#48424
On August 04 2012 03:32 NOOBALOPSE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 03:25 Vandrad wrote:
On August 04 2012 03:21 ThePlayer33 wrote:
games vs puma wasn't like absolutely horrible, but his read on puma is completely off.


Unfortunetaly IdrA is just really bad at reading his opponents
which is why Stephano is always great and IdrA only if he can play "his game"

tell me if he's always great after you watch his games vs. MMA at IPL4...
No one is always great, everyone is sometimes great. How much of the time is what makes you how good you are.


Everything is relative ... and there is no shame losing too MMA
And Stephano often does very well in Tourneys I feel like IdrA just needs to get better at reading his opponents - because almost all the games he lost was because he wasnt ready
And who are you, the proud lord said, that I must bow so low?
NOOBALOPSE
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada802 Posts
August 03 2012 18:39 GMT
#48425
On August 04 2012 03:36 Vandrad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 03:32 NOOBALOPSE wrote:
On August 04 2012 03:25 Vandrad wrote:
On August 04 2012 03:21 ThePlayer33 wrote:
games vs puma wasn't like absolutely horrible, but his read on puma is completely off.


Unfortunetaly IdrA is just really bad at reading his opponents
which is why Stephano is always great and IdrA only if he can play "his game"

tell me if he's always great after you watch his games vs. MMA at IPL4...
No one is always great, everyone is sometimes great. How much of the time is what makes you how good you are.


Everything is relative ... and there is no shame losing too MMA
And Stephano often does very well in Tourneys I feel like IdrA just needs to get better at reading his opponents - because almost all the games he lost was because he wasnt ready

I think that he read his opponents correctly but the execution was just offpoint and the response.

i.e. he knew moon was going for the attack at his third base but instead of just going for more roaches and delaying the infestors he tried to make three infestors right away and still hold. Didn't work both games.

He made the read against moon in game 3 except that it was a scout, not a read.

He made the read against puma in game 1, execution was off
game 2, execution was off
game 3, execution was off and he saw the attack coming

IdrA always gets the scout off, but he ended up failing against drops etc.

He knows his mistakes, let's stop pointing them out please.
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
August 03 2012 18:44 GMT
#48426
damn 0-6 idra probably in rage/sad mode
savior did nothing wrong
Karalius
Profile Joined January 2008
Lithuania271 Posts
August 03 2012 18:46 GMT
#48427
On August 04 2012 03:26 NightReign wrote:
Anyone have some insight if IdrA will just quit until HoT's or go caster full time?

There are like 20 interviews that answer this. He wont be a caster or quit.
Karalius
Profile Joined January 2008
Lithuania271 Posts
August 03 2012 18:47 GMT
#48428
On August 04 2012 03:30 NOOBALOPSE wrote:
He was tired, his eyes were like completely red.


Incontrol said he was well rested and ready to play.
Lefaa
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland313 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-03 18:53:02
August 03 2012 18:52 GMT
#48429
clichés mentioned so far

-idra needs to fix his mindset
-he needs to take a break
-ragequit
-tilt
-something wrong with his training
-he will quit sc2

come on guys, i know u can do better
Fortii
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany760 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-03 19:01:54
August 03 2012 19:01 GMT
#48430
when there is a weekend with a major tournament where idra participates in, i have a sad day. stop this plz, idra. give me my joy back! :/
IdrA!
ThePlayer33
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia2378 Posts
August 03 2012 23:13 GMT
#48431
On August 04 2012 03:39 NOOBALOPSE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 03:36 Vandrad wrote:
On August 04 2012 03:32 NOOBALOPSE wrote:
On August 04 2012 03:25 Vandrad wrote:
On August 04 2012 03:21 ThePlayer33 wrote:
games vs puma wasn't like absolutely horrible, but his read on puma is completely off.


Unfortunetaly IdrA is just really bad at reading his opponents
which is why Stephano is always great and IdrA only if he can play "his game"

tell me if he's always great after you watch his games vs. MMA at IPL4...
No one is always great, everyone is sometimes great. How much of the time is what makes you how good you are.


Everything is relative ... and there is no shame losing too MMA
And Stephano often does very well in Tourneys I feel like IdrA just needs to get better at reading his opponents - because almost all the games he lost was because he wasnt ready

I think that he read his opponents correctly but the execution was just offpoint and the response.

i.e. he knew moon was going for the attack at his third base but instead of just going for more roaches and delaying the infestors he tried to make three infestors right away and still hold. Didn't work both games.

He made the read against moon in game 3 except that it was a scout, not a read.

He made the read against puma in game 1, execution was off
game 2, execution was off
game 3, execution was off and he saw the attack coming

IdrA always gets the scout off, but he ended up failing against drops etc.

He knows his mistakes, let's stop pointing them out please.


no.

Moon game 1: i dont know whats with the fast infestor + burrow. ???? moon doesnt take 44 supply 3rd at all.

game 2: didn't expect baneling attack at all...moon win.

game 3: drones around spine was horribly wrong. drones blocking queen may be better or send them to main

Puma game 1:roach bane vs reactor hellion(which immediately scouts) into banshee???

shoulve been fast roach pressure (~7:30)or quick 3rd with queen spore

game 2: muta got completely seen by puma. puma spam turret. sees push and drops idra main, delaying the attack until 3 siege tanks are ready. you all know what ling/bling vs terran 3rd on ohana is like.


ZvZ: textbook play is better. infestor build worked vs protosser cos he went muta every game.
ZvT: not bad. hellions are good units though. so are banshees.



| Idra | YuGiOh | Leenock | Coca |
bropedo
Profile Joined April 2012
United States89 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-03 23:54:55
August 03 2012 23:54 GMT
#48432
On August 04 2012 08:13 ThePlayer33 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 03:39 NOOBALOPSE wrote:
On August 04 2012 03:36 Vandrad wrote:
On August 04 2012 03:32 NOOBALOPSE wrote:
On August 04 2012 03:25 Vandrad wrote:
On August 04 2012 03:21 ThePlayer33 wrote:
games vs puma wasn't like absolutely horrible, but his read on puma is completely off.


Unfortunetaly IdrA is just really bad at reading his opponents
which is why Stephano is always great and IdrA only if he can play "his game"

tell me if he's always great after you watch his games vs. MMA at IPL4...
No one is always great, everyone is sometimes great. How much of the time is what makes you how good you are.


Everything is relative ... and there is no shame losing too MMA
And Stephano often does very well in Tourneys I feel like IdrA just needs to get better at reading his opponents - because almost all the games he lost was because he wasnt ready

I think that he read his opponents correctly but the execution was just offpoint and the response.

i.e. he knew moon was going for the attack at his third base but instead of just going for more roaches and delaying the infestors he tried to make three infestors right away and still hold. Didn't work both games.

He made the read against moon in game 3 except that it was a scout, not a read.

He made the read against puma in game 1, execution was off
game 2, execution was off
game 3, execution was off and he saw the attack coming

IdrA always gets the scout off, but he ended up failing against drops etc.

He knows his mistakes, let's stop pointing them out please.


no.

Moon game 1: i dont know whats with the fast infestor + burrow. ???? moon doesnt take 44 supply 3rd at all.

game 2: didn't expect baneling attack at all...moon win.

game 3: drones around spine was horribly wrong. drones blocking queen may be better or send them to main

Puma game 1:roach bane vs reactor hellion(which immediately scouts) into banshee???

shoulve been fast roach pressure (~7:30)or quick 3rd with queen spore

game 2: muta got completely seen by puma. puma spam turret. sees push and drops idra main, delaying the attack until 3 siege tanks are ready. you all know what ling/bling vs terran 3rd on ohana is like.


ZvZ: textbook play is better. infestor build worked vs protosser cos he went muta every game.
ZvT: not bad. hellions are good units though. so are banshees.




i think those are games against puma not moon
Gogo Terran: MKP ByuN || Toss: Parting Rain || Zerg: Life HyuN
BlueBoxSC
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States582 Posts
August 04 2012 00:06 GMT
#48433
Sad for such an early departure from the tournament`~~~~~
Was hoping for at least ro8 =(
BwCBlueBox.837
walklightwhat
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia752 Posts
August 04 2012 02:18 GMT
#48434
Disappointing, but honestly what I was expecting.

Maybe next time.
Facultyadjutant
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Sweden1876 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-04 02:23:45
August 04 2012 02:23 GMT
#48435
Ahh this is bad, barely any posts after his games compared to before.

Idra is really losing track, in every possible way.

Come on Greg, do you want to become irrelevant? Washed up? Your favourite player was Nada, the guy with the best track record in history. Step it up!
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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-04 03:28:15
August 04 2012 02:41 GMT
#48436
On August 04 2012 08:13 ThePlayer33 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 03:39 NOOBALOPSE wrote:
On August 04 2012 03:36 Vandrad wrote:
On August 04 2012 03:32 NOOBALOPSE wrote:
On August 04 2012 03:25 Vandrad wrote:
On August 04 2012 03:21 ThePlayer33 wrote:
games vs puma wasn't like absolutely horrible, but his read on puma is completely off.


Unfortunetaly IdrA is just really bad at reading his opponents
which is why Stephano is always great and IdrA only if he can play "his game"

tell me if he's always great after you watch his games vs. MMA at IPL4...
No one is always great, everyone is sometimes great. How much of the time is what makes you how good you are.


Everything is relative ... and there is no shame losing too MMA
And Stephano often does very well in Tourneys I feel like IdrA just needs to get better at reading his opponents - because almost all the games he lost was because he wasnt ready

I think that he read his opponents correctly but the execution was just offpoint and the response.

i.e. he knew moon was going for the attack at his third base but instead of just going for more roaches and delaying the infestors he tried to make three infestors right away and still hold. Didn't work both games.

He made the read against moon in game 3 except that it was a scout, not a read.

He made the read against puma in game 1, execution was off
game 2, execution was off
game 3, execution was off and he saw the attack coming

IdrA always gets the scout off, but he ended up failing against drops etc.

He knows his mistakes, let's stop pointing them out please.


no.

Moon game 1: i dont know whats with the fast infestor + burrow. ???? moon doesnt take 44 supply 3rd at all.

game 2: didn't expect baneling attack at all...moon win.

game 3: drones around spine was horribly wrong. drones blocking queen may be better or send them to main

Puma game 1:roach bane vs reactor hellion(which immediately scouts) into banshee???

shoulve been fast roach pressure (~7:30)or quick 3rd with queen spore

game 2: muta got completely seen by puma. puma spam turret. sees push and drops idra main, delaying the attack until 3 siege tanks are ready. you all know what ling/bling vs terran 3rd on ohana is like.


ZvZ: textbook play is better. infestor build worked vs protosser cos he went muta every game.
ZvT: not bad. hellions are good units though. so are banshees.





Protosser failed because he does not have the mechanics to make 2 base mutalisk work. Idra proved his mechanical superiority in those series.
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Incze
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Romania2058 Posts
August 04 2012 07:43 GMT
#48437
On August 04 2012 11:23 Facultyadjutant wrote:
Ahh this is bad, barely any posts after his games compared to before.

Idra is really losing track, in every possible way.

Come on Greg, do you want to become irrelevant? Washed up? Your favourite player was Nada, the guy with the best track record in history. Step it up!



I feel we don't post as much because we've kinda exhausted everything. Every excuse, every encouragement. The fan club is always open in a tab for me, but I feel that I've got nothing to say most of the time so I just don't.
IdrA is still my favourite player and I feel he'll remain in that spot until he retires, then he'll probably become my favourite caster or 21st century physicist.
Religion: Buckethead
Vandrad
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany951 Posts
August 04 2012 08:26 GMT
#48438
On August 04 2012 11:23 Facultyadjutant wrote:
Ahh this is bad, barely any posts after his games compared to before.

Idra is really losing track, in every possible way.

Come on Greg, do you want to become irrelevant? Washed up? Your favourite player was Nada, the guy with the best track record in history. Step it up!


Whats bad is that people are expecting too much of him
And who are you, the proud lord said, that I must bow so low?
Fortii
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany760 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-04 08:40:55
August 04 2012 08:40 GMT
#48439
On August 04 2012 16:43 Incze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 11:23 Facultyadjutant wrote:
Ahh this is bad, barely any posts after his games compared to before.

Idra is really losing track, in every possible way.

Come on Greg, do you want to become irrelevant? Washed up? Your favourite player was Nada, the guy with the best track record in history. Step it up!



I feel we don't post as much because we've kinda exhausted everything. Every excuse, every encouragement. The fan club is always open in a tab for me, but I feel that I've got nothing to say most of the time so I just don't.
IdrA is still my favourite player and I feel he'll remain in that spot until he retires, then he'll probably become my favourite caster or 21st century physicist.


exactly this.


On August 04 2012 17:26 Vandrad wrote:

Whats bad is that people are expecting too much of him



and absolutely not this.
IdrA!
walklightwhat
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia752 Posts
August 04 2012 08:49 GMT
#48440
I think the only person expecting too much from IdrA is Greg himself.

Maybe I'm off base, but I get the feeling from watching him that he just needs to relax and take his results as they come and keep working on getting back into shape from his extreme low period. Getting pissed off and impatient for tournament results is only going to hurt in the long run.
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