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thegiantnome
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States125 Posts
May 18 2012 22:09 GMT
#43541
I don't think I can ever watch a pro SC2 match ever again... IdrA plz make a comeback and win this mlg!
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Facultyadjutant
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Sweden1876 Posts
May 18 2012 22:13 GMT
#43542
On May 19 2012 07:08 NebuLoSa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 06:59 EleanorRIgby wrote:
On May 19 2012 06:52 NebuLoSa wrote:
On May 19 2012 06:50 Delial wrote:
omg. people relax. it's not that he lost, he just didn't win. ..


yeah. but this was against Socke. Remember that this guy is the King of the Beta, the best BW foreigner of all time, won the MLG DC 2010, won IEM Guangzhou and was one of the first foreigners in Code S....


i would say grrr was the best foreign bw player with a OSL win under his belt


omg...... i wish people would stop thinking Grrr was the best foreigner. You can't even try to compare the status of BW when IdrA played and when Grrr played. Winning an OSL while IdrA was active was probably 100 times harder than when Grrr did. It's kind of stupid even to try to compare it, actually. I'd actually say IdrA was BY FAR the best foreigner during (the "real", the "era that matters"...) BW.


Did idra actually do anything to koreans? Idra wasn't really that good in bw.

He was just incredible at the start of sc2, but I have never considered idra good in bw.
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Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden1609 Posts
May 18 2012 22:14 GMT
#43543
On May 19 2012 07:13 Facultyadjutant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 07:08 NebuLoSa wrote:
On May 19 2012 06:59 EleanorRIgby wrote:
On May 19 2012 06:52 NebuLoSa wrote:
On May 19 2012 06:50 Delial wrote:
omg. people relax. it's not that he lost, he just didn't win. ..


yeah. but this was against Socke. Remember that this guy is the King of the Beta, the best BW foreigner of all time, won the MLG DC 2010, won IEM Guangzhou and was one of the first foreigners in Code S....


i would say grrr was the best foreign bw player with a OSL win under his belt


omg...... i wish people would stop thinking Grrr was the best foreigner. You can't even try to compare the status of BW when IdrA played and when Grrr played. Winning an OSL while IdrA was active was probably 100 times harder than when Grrr did. It's kind of stupid even to try to compare it, actually. I'd actually say IdrA was BY FAR the best foreigner during (the "real", the "era that matters"...) BW.


Did idra actually do anything to koreans? Idra wasn't really that good in bw.

He was just incredible at the start of sc2, but I have never considered idra good in bw.

That was why he said "best foreigner". Which he was.
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Lefaa
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland313 Posts
May 18 2012 22:14 GMT
#43544
On May 19 2012 07:13 Facultyadjutant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 07:08 NebuLoSa wrote:
On May 19 2012 06:59 EleanorRIgby wrote:
On May 19 2012 06:52 NebuLoSa wrote:
On May 19 2012 06:50 Delial wrote:
omg. people relax. it's not that he lost, he just didn't win. ..


yeah. but this was against Socke. Remember that this guy is the King of the Beta, the best BW foreigner of all time, won the MLG DC 2010, won IEM Guangzhou and was one of the first foreigners in Code S....


i would say grrr was the best foreign bw player with a OSL win under his belt


omg...... i wish people would stop thinking Grrr was the best foreigner. You can't even try to compare the status of BW when IdrA played and when Grrr played. Winning an OSL while IdrA was active was probably 100 times harder than when Grrr did. It's kind of stupid even to try to compare it, actually. I'd actually say IdrA was BY FAR the best foreigner during (the "real", the "era that matters"...) BW.


Did idra actually do anything to koreans? Idra wasn't really that good in bw.

He was just incredible at the start of sc2, but I have never considered idra good in bw.


No foreigner "did anything" in bw scene, but idra did the most.
RUS RO DAH!!!
Profile Joined February 2012
United States277 Posts
May 18 2012 22:18 GMT
#43545
I really hope Idra isn't going to retire.
nebula.
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Sweden1431 Posts
May 18 2012 22:18 GMT
#43546
On May 19 2012 07:13 Facultyadjutant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 07:08 NebuLoSa wrote:
On May 19 2012 06:59 EleanorRIgby wrote:
On May 19 2012 06:52 NebuLoSa wrote:
On May 19 2012 06:50 Delial wrote:
omg. people relax. it's not that he lost, he just didn't win. ..


yeah. but this was against Socke. Remember that this guy is the King of the Beta, the best BW foreigner of all time, won the MLG DC 2010, won IEM Guangzhou and was one of the first foreigners in Code S....


i would say grrr was the best foreign bw player with a OSL win under his belt


omg...... i wish people would stop thinking Grrr was the best foreigner. You can't even try to compare the status of BW when IdrA played and when Grrr played. Winning an OSL while IdrA was active was probably 100 times harder than when Grrr did. It's kind of stupid even to try to compare it, actually. I'd actually say IdrA was BY FAR the best foreigner during (the "real", the "era that matters"...) BW.


Did idra actually do anything to koreans? Idra wasn't really that good in bw.

He was just incredible at the start of sc2, but I have never considered idra good in bw.


No foreigners can't be compared to the koreans but yeah, IdrA was the best, easily.

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TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
May 18 2012 22:21 GMT
#43547
On May 19 2012 07:14 Lefaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 07:13 Facultyadjutant wrote:
On May 19 2012 07:08 NebuLoSa wrote:
On May 19 2012 06:59 EleanorRIgby wrote:
On May 19 2012 06:52 NebuLoSa wrote:
On May 19 2012 06:50 Delial wrote:
omg. people relax. it's not that he lost, he just didn't win. ..


yeah. but this was against Socke. Remember that this guy is the King of the Beta, the best BW foreigner of all time, won the MLG DC 2010, won IEM Guangzhou and was one of the first foreigners in Code S....


i would say grrr was the best foreign bw player with a OSL win under his belt


omg...... i wish people would stop thinking Grrr was the best foreigner. You can't even try to compare the status of BW when IdrA played and when Grrr played. Winning an OSL while IdrA was active was probably 100 times harder than when Grrr did. It's kind of stupid even to try to compare it, actually. I'd actually say IdrA was BY FAR the best foreigner during (the "real", the "era that matters"...) BW.


Did idra actually do anything to koreans? Idra wasn't really that good in bw.

He was just incredible at the start of sc2, but I have never considered idra good in bw.


No foreigner "did anything" in bw scene, but idra did the most.


Well, technically Grrr... Was a foreigner and he won the first OSL, but that's ancient history
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Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
May 18 2012 22:22 GMT
#43548
On May 19 2012 07:13 Facultyadjutant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 07:08 NebuLoSa wrote:
On May 19 2012 06:59 EleanorRIgby wrote:
On May 19 2012 06:52 NebuLoSa wrote:
On May 19 2012 06:50 Delial wrote:
omg. people relax. it's not that he lost, he just didn't win. ..


yeah. but this was against Socke. Remember that this guy is the King of the Beta, the best BW foreigner of all time, won the MLG DC 2010, won IEM Guangzhou and was one of the first foreigners in Code S....


i would say grrr was the best foreign bw player with a OSL win under his belt


omg...... i wish people would stop thinking Grrr was the best foreigner. You can't even try to compare the status of BW when IdrA played and when Grrr played. Winning an OSL while IdrA was active was probably 100 times harder than when Grrr did. It's kind of stupid even to try to compare it, actually. I'd actually say IdrA was BY FAR the best foreigner during (the "real", the "era that matters"...) BW.


Did idra actually do anything to koreans? Idra wasn't really that good in bw.

He was just incredible at the start of sc2, but I have never considered idra good in bw.

Idra came close to defeating Stork(orsome other big time pro) several times, and he was deemed good enough to play for Cj Entus. Artosis has said several times that he was able to take games off of big time pros,so to not think of Idra as good at BW is just silly imo. Of course, he never came close to the very best of BW pros, but no foreigner ever did
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nebula.
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Sweden1431 Posts
May 18 2012 22:22 GMT
#43549
On May 19 2012 07:21 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 07:14 Lefaa wrote:
On May 19 2012 07:13 Facultyadjutant wrote:
On May 19 2012 07:08 NebuLoSa wrote:
On May 19 2012 06:59 EleanorRIgby wrote:
On May 19 2012 06:52 NebuLoSa wrote:
On May 19 2012 06:50 Delial wrote:
omg. people relax. it's not that he lost, he just didn't win. ..


yeah. but this was against Socke. Remember that this guy is the King of the Beta, the best BW foreigner of all time, won the MLG DC 2010, won IEM Guangzhou and was one of the first foreigners in Code S....


i would say grrr was the best foreign bw player with a OSL win under his belt


omg...... i wish people would stop thinking Grrr was the best foreigner. You can't even try to compare the status of BW when IdrA played and when Grrr played. Winning an OSL while IdrA was active was probably 100 times harder than when Grrr did. It's kind of stupid even to try to compare it, actually. I'd actually say IdrA was BY FAR the best foreigner during (the "real", the "era that matters"...) BW.


Did idra actually do anything to koreans? Idra wasn't really that good in bw.

He was just incredible at the start of sc2, but I have never considered idra good in bw.


No foreigner "did anything" in bw scene, but idra did the most.


Well, technically Grrr... Was a foreigner and he won the first OSL, but that's ancient history


Yeah, we had that discussion and we (I've) come to the conclusion that that isn't comparable to "late (full-bloomed) BW"
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trikshun
Profile Joined October 2010
United States437 Posts
May 18 2012 22:35 GMT
#43550
I'm not watching the stream but do you guys know when idrA vs Dream will be?
Vega62a
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
946 Posts
May 18 2012 22:38 GMT
#43551
On May 19 2012 06:47 Aocowns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 06:46 Doomwish wrote:
IdrA has fallen off pretty hard. I can't remember the last pro series he took. It just seems like he loses everything recently. What happened?

Family issues, disliking the game, amongst other things that will put your mindset down


Depending on the nature of the family issues, it can really suck to be forced to play when you're feeling shitty.

The fact that he takes no pleasure from the game doesn't help. I wish he'd find that again =/
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Kamikiri
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1319 Posts
May 18 2012 22:51 GMT
#43552
On May 19 2012 07:22 Aocowns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 07:13 Facultyadjutant wrote:
On May 19 2012 07:08 NebuLoSa wrote:
On May 19 2012 06:59 EleanorRIgby wrote:
On May 19 2012 06:52 NebuLoSa wrote:
On May 19 2012 06:50 Delial wrote:
omg. people relax. it's not that he lost, he just didn't win. ..


yeah. but this was against Socke. Remember that this guy is the King of the Beta, the best BW foreigner of all time, won the MLG DC 2010, won IEM Guangzhou and was one of the first foreigners in Code S....


i would say grrr was the best foreign bw player with a OSL win under his belt


omg...... i wish people would stop thinking Grrr was the best foreigner. You can't even try to compare the status of BW when IdrA played and when Grrr played. Winning an OSL while IdrA was active was probably 100 times harder than when Grrr did. It's kind of stupid even to try to compare it, actually. I'd actually say IdrA was BY FAR the best foreigner during (the "real", the "era that matters"...) BW.


Did idra actually do anything to koreans? Idra wasn't really that good in bw.

He was just incredible at the start of sc2, but I have never considered idra good in bw.

Idra came close to defeating Stork(orsome other big time pro) several times, and he was deemed good enough to play for Cj Entus. Artosis has said several times that he was able to take games off of big time pros,so to not think of Idra as good at BW is just silly imo. Of course, he never came close to the very best of BW pros, but no foreigner ever did


Not only that but he showed a lot of heart and determination to try to make it somewhere where it was basically 'impossible' for a foreigner. It sucks to see Idra having a hard time as of late.
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
May 18 2012 22:51 GMT
#43553
On May 19 2012 07:38 Vega62a wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 06:47 Aocowns wrote:
On May 19 2012 06:46 Doomwish wrote:
IdrA has fallen off pretty hard. I can't remember the last pro series he took. It just seems like he loses everything recently. What happened?

Family issues, disliking the game, amongst other things that will put your mindset down


Depending on the nature of the family issues, it can really suck to be forced to play when you're feeling shitty.

The fact that he takes no pleasure from the game doesn't help. I wish he'd find that again =/

Close loss in the family, so it's pretty bad :/
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
LingBlingMuta
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States382 Posts
May 18 2012 22:58 GMT
#43554
On May 19 2012 07:35 trikshun wrote:
I'm not watching the stream but do you guys know when idrA vs Dream will be?


Tomorrow.
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RUS RO DAH!!!
Profile Joined February 2012
United States277 Posts
May 18 2012 23:16 GMT
#43555
On May 19 2012 07:38 Vega62a wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 06:47 Aocowns wrote:
On May 19 2012 06:46 Doomwish wrote:
IdrA has fallen off pretty hard. I can't remember the last pro series he took. It just seems like he loses everything recently. What happened?

Family issues, disliking the game, amongst other things that will put your mindset down


Depending on the nature of the family issues, it can really suck to be forced to play when you're feeling shitty.

The fact that he takes no pleasure from the game doesn't help. I wish he'd find that again =/


I actually don't think Idra hates SC2, he just hates losing. After all he didn't complain during beta when he was having decent results.
integrity
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1014 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-18 23:19:30
May 18 2012 23:18 GMT
#43556
On May 19 2012 07:18 RUS RO DAH!!! wrote:
I really hope Idra isn't going to retire.


personally i want idra to retire for a while

ONLY

because i know his return would be EPIC!
a whole new person.

cant you guys imagine the grack devouring nerds again.......it gives me chills sometimes
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
May 18 2012 23:18 GMT
#43557
i dont see why people are talking about his supply, he had jsut held off Sockes pressure and Socke didnt open the standard FFE so its not like IdrA could play as greedy as he would have liked

i know when i play and the protoss doesnt FFE i get a bit lost as what to make when since the amount of all-ins they can do skyrockets

course im no where close to idra but im sure Sockes opening threw him off
Lefaa
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland313 Posts
May 18 2012 23:27 GMT
#43558
On May 19 2012 08:18 integrity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 07:18 RUS RO DAH!!! wrote:
I really hope Idra isn't going to retire.


personally i want idra to retire for a while

ONLY

because i know his return would be EPIC!
a whole new person.

cant you guys imagine the grack devouring nerds again.......it gives me chills sometimes


Break won't fix his play he just needs to play, find something that might give him the edge again and after couple of wins he is completely different again.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
May 18 2012 23:29 GMT
#43559
On May 19 2012 08:27 Lefaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 08:18 integrity wrote:
On May 19 2012 07:18 RUS RO DAH!!! wrote:
I really hope Idra isn't going to retire.


personally i want idra to retire for a while

ONLY

because i know his return would be EPIC!
a whole new person.

cant you guys imagine the grack devouring nerds again.......it gives me chills sometimes


Break won't fix his play he just needs to play, find something that might give him the edge again and after couple of wins he is completely different again.

i think he needs to get his head back in the game, after what he said on inside the game i wouldnt be surprised if hes thinking way too much during the games about unnecesary things and isnt just focuing 100% on whats happening
FeUerFlieGe
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1193 Posts
May 18 2012 23:33 GMT
#43560
On May 19 2012 08:16 RUS RO DAH!!! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 07:38 Vega62a wrote:
On May 19 2012 06:47 Aocowns wrote:
On May 19 2012 06:46 Doomwish wrote:
IdrA has fallen off pretty hard. I can't remember the last pro series he took. It just seems like he loses everything recently. What happened?

Family issues, disliking the game, amongst other things that will put your mindset down


Depending on the nature of the family issues, it can really suck to be forced to play when you're feeling shitty.

The fact that he takes no pleasure from the game doesn't help. I wish he'd find that again =/


I actually don't think Idra hates SC2, he just hates losing. After all he didn't complain during beta when he was having decent results.


I don't know... he always says "fucking stupid game", "shitty game", "This game is bullshit". Seems to me like he doesn't enjoy the game much and I think his problem is that he knows he's better than most of the people he plays but he doesn't beat them. I think he isn't liking the game because ZvZ is a dice roll and ZvP is... well, we all know (boring, shitty matchup). Also listen to him talk about the Mutalisk situation in ZvT. He says mutas don't even work well anymore in the matchup because good terrans learned to deal with them and nows he's forced into this infestor style which he obviously finds unfavorable.

I just hope he holds out until HOTS.
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