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On April 30 2012 04:38 Chewbacca. wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 04:37 Phobbers wrote:On April 30 2012 04:35 Chewbacca. wrote:
He really needs to neural that mothership and waste its vortex That is easier said than done. I know, but there were definitely chances to do it, I mean right at that last fight HuK sent in the mothership all by self when it missed that first vortex. Idra chose to fungal instead of NP. :-\
Fungal has +2 range on neural... Every time infestor got infestors too far ahead they got vortexed.
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On April 30 2012 04:39 Facultyadjutant wrote:
IDRA for the love of god, make more spines, why don't you deny top mid? Why don't you take bottom mid?
WHY - Is your basic timings using roaches so terrible
WHY - DON'T YOU GO AT 200/200
WHY - Don't you get 3/3
WHY - Don't you stick to the cliffs so archons can't hit you
WHY - Don't you neural
WHY - Don't you spend your minerals on spines and lings
WHY - Don't you make nydus to take out bottom right
why, why,why,why,why,why,why,why do you have to let ZvP hold you back so insanely hard? Can you just stop setting up yourself for a great game and then throw it all away in a completely terrible engagement
Idra's roach timings are actually pretty good as far as I know. It's the decision making with them that loses him games.
Neural against Mothership is close to impossible against a player with good control, I feel. Huk's control is top notch, so I don't see him fucking up so bad taht Idra got in range with infestors.
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Can someone PM how idrA did at the MLG quals?
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On April 30 2012 04:40 Ghanburighan wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 04:38 Chewbacca. wrote:On April 30 2012 04:37 Phobbers wrote:On April 30 2012 04:35 Chewbacca. wrote:
He really needs to neural that mothership and waste its vortex That is easier said than done. I know, but there were definitely chances to do it, I mean right at that last fight HuK sent in the mothership all by self when it missed that first vortex. Idra chose to fungal instead of NP. :-\ Fungal has +2 range on neural... Every time infestor got infestors too far ahead they got vortexed.
I doubt HuK would of wasted a vortex on 1-2 infestors if they moved forward a bit to try and NP
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On April 30 2012 04:37 Rulker wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 04:36 Denzil wrote:
man idra had terrible decision making that game
he was trying cocas zvp but cocked it up massively how so
he didn't get 3-3 he didn't expand down the bottom he didn't harass with banelings he didn't do shit
theres an emergency thing that you do when you get vortexed you dump banelings into it and the second they come out you count to 1 and manual detonate
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Well. 6 pool is always nice. Cool.
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Hahahah! IdrA sixpooling!
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Honestly Idra is playing so terribly it hurts to watch..... Clumping up units like mutas in broodwar, never parasited the mothership, terrible engagements, insted of taking safe bases expanding towards the enemy etc etc..
Please Greg.. own Chris like you used to....
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On April 30 2012 04:41 Chewbacca. wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 04:40 Ghanburighan wrote:On April 30 2012 04:38 Chewbacca. wrote:On April 30 2012 04:37 Phobbers wrote:On April 30 2012 04:35 Chewbacca. wrote:
He really needs to neural that mothership and waste its vortex That is easier said than done. I know, but there were definitely chances to do it, I mean right at that last fight HuK sent in the mothership all by self when it missed that first vortex. Idra chose to fungal instead of NP. :-\ Fungal has +2 range on neural... Every time infestor got infestors too far ahead they got vortexed. I doubt HuK would of wasted a vortex on 1-2 infestors if they moved forward a bit to try and NP
No, but he would easily snipe them with blink stalkers
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And that seems to be gg. Going the wrong way'....
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Yeah look at the game carefully when you get the chance. He used NP a couple of times but the infestors immediately died. It's not reliable -- you do have to try hard to get it to work.
Best thing is attacking before the mothership is out, but it was really early in this game and as we've seen in Game 1 vs Alicia, IdrA does not know the timings to attack P very well.
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On April 30 2012 04:40 Heavenlee wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 04:35 Ghanburighan wrote:
For crying out loud, the vortex mechanic is so boring to watch. Such a great game.. but it's basically now decided by what gets into the vortex and how the units happen to come out... If I wanted to watch random chance, I'd play the lottery. Um...what are you even saying? Do you know what the definition of random chance is? There is nothing random about proper positioning, spread of units, placement of spines and spores, etc. Yes, it's decided by what gets into the vortex and the overall positioning of the armies...what should it be then, a-move versus a-move or what? It adds a positional and micro element to the game, you saw positional posturing then Huk finally finding his opening. Before you cry imba, how is Huk supposed to handle that army without mothership vortex? How is he going to handle those 20 infestors and 15 broodlords? Carriers? That seemed pretty clearcut, Huk had the better positioning and timing generally during the engagements though IdrA was doing very well for a long period of time. Props to IdrA, that map also kind of forced him into a semi-choke where he couldn't spread as well at that specific area, so a lot of stuff was clumped due to lack of space.
I don't think you read my post nor watched the game. I didn't mention imba, nor was the second archon toilet outcome "a result of micro and positioning", The archons happened to come out a bit further than the broods, and shoot at other forces first, that's why the second battle was a win for Idra. I don't think he'll ever take credit for winning that battle himself.
Now calm down, young one.
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Hm, I think HuK is at an advantage, but this is not a lost game yet.
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So... That was not worth it as far as I can tell... If he had followed up with more lings/drone scouted....
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idra going for double ling ups or hydra nydus
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man idra explains shit on his stream and he spreads broods out at the speed of light against vikings and other protoss
he even splits mutas against fungal
why the fuck doesn't he do it in proper matches?
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