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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On March 27 2012 05:49 Whole wrote: We make excuses when IdrA loses, they make excuses when IdrA wins. I guess it all balances out in the end lol. alright Karma, looks like you win again | ||
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mambar
United States841 Posts
On March 27 2012 05:38 Thrax wrote: Can you please clarify if IdrA has fantastic ZvT or if he is a scrub? owned | ||
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ThePlayer33
Australia2378 Posts
On March 27 2012 05:38 Thrax wrote: Can you please clarify if IdrA has fantastic ZvT or if he is a scrub? lol caught with his pants down | ||
CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On March 27 2012 05:49 VashTS wrote: So being glad that he beat MVP is an exaggeration? Is saying he is on a tear against Terrans when he beat all of four terrans (two with bad TvZ, one who consistently underperforms in foreign tournaments, and one whose play has greatly deteriorated due to wrist problems) an exaggeration? Is saying that Idra is better than Polt with zero evidence an exaggeration? Is whining about Polt "cheesing" Idra when Idra flopped and died to a standard TvZ opener an exaggeration? | ||
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mlm
Austria164 Posts
Edit: Opps, I thought he won the first game | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On March 27 2012 05:57 CosmicSpiral wrote: Is saying he is on a tear against Terrans when he beat all of four terrans (two with bad TvZ, one who consistently underperforms in foreign tournaments, and one whose play has greatly deteriorated due to wrist problems) an exaggeration? Is saying that Idra is better than Polt with zero evidence an exaggeration? Is whining about Polt "cheesing" Idra when Idra flopped and died to a standard TvZ opener an exaggeration? um who said that IdrA was better then polt? they played one Bo3 you cant decide whos better from one Bo3 and yes, IdrA absolutely destroying 4 good terrans is extremely good news, despite how well they normally do in TvZ there still very good terrans who dont go down easily and they all got demolished by IdrA | ||
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Chupacabra(UCSD)
Mexico225 Posts
On March 27 2012 05:57 CosmicSpiral wrote: Is saying he is on a tear against Terrans when he beat all of four terrans (two with bad TvZ, one who consistently underperforms in foreign tournaments, and one whose play has greatly deteriorated due to wrist problems) an exaggeration? Is saying that Idra is better than Polt with zero evidence an exaggeration? Is whining about Polt "cheesing" Idra when Idra flopped and died to a standard TvZ opener an exaggeration? Didn't MVP beat Symbol (an amazing zerg) in this same tournament. I don't care how "beat up" MVP is at the moment you have to be an amazing player to beat him regardless of his condition. | ||
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hysterial
United States2044 Posts
On March 27 2012 05:38 Thrax wrote: Can you please clarify if IdrA has fantastic ZvT or if he is a scrub? Congrats. I do think he has fantastic ZvT, mediocre ZvZ, and abysmal ZvP like any level-headed person. I also feel in reference to a multi-GSL winner he is not on his level. I'm sorry if you disagree with that sentiment. | ||
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Thrax
Canada1755 Posts
Is saying he is on a tear against Terrans when he beat all of four terrans (two with bad TvZ, one who consistently underperforms in foreign tournaments, and one whose play has greatly deteriorated due to wrist problems) an exaggeration? Yes it's an exaggeration. It's still positive though, maybe he is coming out of his slump. Maybe he is gaining in confidence. Maybe his new style is working well. Is saying that Idra is better than Polt with zero evidence an exaggeration? Yes. All signs point to the opposite. IdrA, please prove everybody wrong Is whining about Polt "cheesing" Idra when Idra flopped and died to a standard TvZ opener an exaggeration? A loss is a loss. I'm fine with people being unhappy with the style of Polt. The definition of cheese varies so much, I don't think there is value in arguing one way or another. um who said that IdrA was better then polt? they played one Bo3 you cant decide whos better from one Bo3 IdrA hasn't proved he is better than Polt. There is a good case to say the opposite. That BO3 and a lot of ladder games. and yes, IdrA absolutely destroying 4 good terrans is extremely good news, despite how well they normally do in TvZ there still very good terrans who dont go down easily and they all got demolished by IdrA It's good news, but let's not get ahead of ourselves. | ||
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On March 27 2012 06:02 Forikorder wrote: um who said that IdrA was better then polt? they played one Bo3 you cant decide whos better from one Bo3 and yes, IdrA absolutely destroying 4 good terrans is extremely good news, despite how well they normally do in TvZ there still very good terrans who dont go down easily and they all got demolished by IdrA I can decide based on months and months of results, which decisively favor Polt. This is exactly what I am talking about. Let's cherrypick as many positive results as possible and blind ourselves to everything that does not exist in our fantasy world. Let's ignore the fact that Supernova was the only player Idra beat in a series at IEM World Championships, that Idra beat Jinro when Jinro has not won a TvZ series in Korea in over a year, that he beat Thorzain just after he got embarrassed by Cloud. On March 27 2012 06:04 Chupacabra(UCSD) wrote: Didn't MVP beat Symbol (an amazing zerg) in this same tournament. I don't care how "beat up" MVP is at the moment you have to be an amazing player to beat him regardless of his condition. Didn't Symbol just make it to Code A? Does beating one person in a BoX mean you're back in form? I'd like to see consistency from Idra before I start making inferences about his current skill level. | ||
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Cerubellum
Denmark58 Posts
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Heavenly
2172 Posts
On March 27 2012 06:15 Cerubellum wrote: Am i the only one who thinks it is really weird that people expect IdrA fans not to exaggerate victories or excuse defeats in his fanclub? One would think it would be the reverse. Dunno, I'm a pretty rabid MC fanboy but if he plays like shit his fanclub tends to just say he's playing like shit and we try not to overexaggerate victories. I'm a member of this fanclub too from way back, I just try to be realistic about where a player stands and what a victory actually means for him. IdrA did make very few mistakes and played a good style compared to his way outdated mutacentric play though, but a victory over the name MVP feels very lackluster to me here. | ||
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Sphen5117
United States413 Posts
On March 27 2012 06:10 hysterial wrote: Congrats. I do think he has fantastic ZvT, mediocre ZvZ, and abysmal ZvP like any level-headed person. I also feel in reference to a multi-GSL winner he is not on his level. I'm sorry if you disagree with that sentiment. So then why did you come to someone's fanclub to call them a scrub? | ||
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On March 27 2012 06:13 Thrax wrote: Yes it's an exaggeration. It's still positive though, maybe he is coming out of his slump. Maybe he is gaining in confidence. Maybe his new style is working well. See, exactly what I am talking about. There is no other fanclub on TL where cautious optimism/spontaneous celebration is in such short supply. Why can't people just be happy about Idra winning this series and make no big leaps in logic? | ||
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Deleted User 137586
7859 Posts
Didn't catch the games, yet. Gotta see those vods. Glad to see him with two strong showings back to back. | ||
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Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
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AysiktiriX
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PandaMonk
United States300 Posts
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Jinsho
United Kingdom3101 Posts
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MountainGoat
United States507 Posts
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