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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
March 26 2012 20:50 GMT
#38981
On March 27 2012 05:49 Whole wrote:
We make excuses when IdrA loses, they make excuses when IdrA wins. I guess it all balances out in the end lol.

alright Karma, looks like you win again
mambar
Profile Joined February 2012
United States841 Posts
March 26 2012 20:53 GMT
#38982
On March 27 2012 05:38 Thrax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 05:36 hysterial wrote:
On March 27 2012 05:31 Forikorder wrote:
On March 27 2012 05:30 hysterial wrote:
On March 27 2012 05:29 Forikorder wrote:
i really wish we could ahve seen MVP at his best VS IdrA


MvP used to have the best TvZ in the world, so I doubt it would be close.

i dunno IdrA has been on a tear TvZ lately, despite getting cheesed out by polt he still beat Supernova, Thorzain and Jinro


Idra has always had fantastic TvZ no doubt. But MVP is(was..) just on another level from most terrans.


Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 05:09 hysterial wrote:
Lol MVP... This is by far the worst I have ever seen him play. Losing to a scrub like Idra :/.

Can you please clarify if IdrA has fantastic ZvT or if he is a scrub?

owned
ThePlayer33
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia2378 Posts
March 26 2012 20:56 GMT
#38983
On March 27 2012 05:38 Thrax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 05:36 hysterial wrote:
On March 27 2012 05:31 Forikorder wrote:
On March 27 2012 05:30 hysterial wrote:
On March 27 2012 05:29 Forikorder wrote:
i really wish we could ahve seen MVP at his best VS IdrA


MvP used to have the best TvZ in the world, so I doubt it would be close.

i dunno IdrA has been on a tear TvZ lately, despite getting cheesed out by polt he still beat Supernova, Thorzain and Jinro


Idra has always had fantastic TvZ no doubt. But MVP is(was..) just on another level from most terrans.


Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 05:09 hysterial wrote:
Lol MVP... This is by far the worst I have ever seen him play. Losing to a scrub like Idra :/.

Can you please clarify if IdrA has fantastic ZvT or if he is a scrub?


lol caught with his pants down
| Idra | YuGiOh | Leenock | Coca |
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-26 20:59:06
March 26 2012 20:57 GMT
#38984
On March 27 2012 05:49 VashTS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 05:48 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On March 27 2012 05:44 VashTS wrote:
On March 27 2012 05:42 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On March 27 2012 05:31 Forikorder wrote:
On March 27 2012 05:30 hysterial wrote:
On March 27 2012 05:29 Forikorder wrote:
i really wish we could ahve seen MVP at his best VS IdrA


MvP used to have the best TvZ in the world, so I doubt it would be close.

i dunno IdrA has been on a tear TvZ lately, despite getting cheesed out by polt he still beat Supernova, Thorzain and Jinro


Jinro and his sub 30% winrate against Code B zergs. Thorzain and his weakest matchup by far. Supernova and his inexplicable collapses in foreign tournaments. I'm glad that Idra has a victory to silence the haters, but his homers really need to stop overhyping every little thing that goes right for him.

Some people will do/say anything to make a win seem insignificant.


Not insignificant, not anything to exaggerate. He played against an opponent who was performing at a subpar level. Of course people will obviously hype up the victory itself and completely ignore how Idra is finally adapting a new style in ZvT, one that will be far more successful for his mindset in the matchup. That is what Idra fans should truly be excited about.

So being glad that he beat MVP is an exaggeration?


Is saying he is on a tear against Terrans when he beat all of four terrans (two with bad TvZ, one who consistently underperforms in foreign tournaments, and one whose play has greatly deteriorated due to wrist problems) an exaggeration? Is saying that Idra is better than Polt with zero evidence an exaggeration? Is whining about Polt "cheesing" Idra when Idra flopped and died to a standard TvZ opener an exaggeration?
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mlm
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria164 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-26 21:13:01
March 26 2012 21:00 GMT
#38985
MVP doesn't look that bad vs MC though.
Edit: Opps, I thought he won the first game
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
March 26 2012 21:02 GMT
#38986
On March 27 2012 05:57 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 05:49 VashTS wrote:
On March 27 2012 05:48 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On March 27 2012 05:44 VashTS wrote:
On March 27 2012 05:42 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On March 27 2012 05:31 Forikorder wrote:
On March 27 2012 05:30 hysterial wrote:
On March 27 2012 05:29 Forikorder wrote:
i really wish we could ahve seen MVP at his best VS IdrA


MvP used to have the best TvZ in the world, so I doubt it would be close.

i dunno IdrA has been on a tear TvZ lately, despite getting cheesed out by polt he still beat Supernova, Thorzain and Jinro


Jinro and his sub 30% winrate against Code B zergs. Thorzain and his weakest matchup by far. Supernova and his inexplicable collapses in foreign tournaments. I'm glad that Idra has a victory to silence the haters, but his homers really need to stop overhyping every little thing that goes right for him.

Some people will do/say anything to make a win seem insignificant.


Not insignificant, not anything to exaggerate. He played against an opponent who was performing at a subpar level. Of course people will obviously hype up the victory itself and completely ignore how Idra is finally adapting a new style in ZvT, one that will be far more successful for his mindset in the matchup. That is what Idra fans should truly be excited about.

So being glad that he beat MVP is an exaggeration?


Is saying he is on a tear against Terrans when he beat all of four terrans (two with bad TvZ, one who consistently underperforms in foreign tournaments, and one whose play has greatly deteriorated due to wrist problems) an exaggeration? Is saying that Idra is better than Polt with zero evidence an exaggeration? Is whining about Polt "cheesing" Idra when Idra flopped and died to a standard TvZ opener an exaggeration?

um who said that IdrA was better then polt? they played one Bo3 you cant decide whos better from one Bo3

and yes, IdrA absolutely destroying 4 good terrans is extremely good news, despite how well they normally do in TvZ there still very good terrans who dont go down easily and they all got demolished by IdrA
Chupacabra(UCSD)
Profile Joined December 2009
Mexico225 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-26 21:05:53
March 26 2012 21:04 GMT
#38987
On March 27 2012 05:57 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 05:49 VashTS wrote:
On March 27 2012 05:48 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On March 27 2012 05:44 VashTS wrote:
On March 27 2012 05:42 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On March 27 2012 05:31 Forikorder wrote:
On March 27 2012 05:30 hysterial wrote:
On March 27 2012 05:29 Forikorder wrote:
i really wish we could ahve seen MVP at his best VS IdrA


MvP used to have the best TvZ in the world, so I doubt it would be close.

i dunno IdrA has been on a tear TvZ lately, despite getting cheesed out by polt he still beat Supernova, Thorzain and Jinro


Jinro and his sub 30% winrate against Code B zergs. Thorzain and his weakest matchup by far. Supernova and his inexplicable collapses in foreign tournaments. I'm glad that Idra has a victory to silence the haters, but his homers really need to stop overhyping every little thing that goes right for him.

Some people will do/say anything to make a win seem insignificant.


Not insignificant, not anything to exaggerate. He played against an opponent who was performing at a subpar level. Of course people will obviously hype up the victory itself and completely ignore how Idra is finally adapting a new style in ZvT, one that will be far more successful for his mindset in the matchup. That is what Idra fans should truly be excited about.

So being glad that he beat MVP is an exaggeration?


Is saying he is on a tear against Terrans when he beat all of four terrans (two with bad TvZ, one who consistently underperforms in foreign tournaments, and one whose play has greatly deteriorated due to wrist problems) an exaggeration? Is saying that Idra is better than Polt with zero evidence an exaggeration? Is whining about Polt "cheesing" Idra when Idra flopped and died to a standard TvZ opener an exaggeration?



Didn't MVP beat Symbol (an amazing zerg) in this same tournament. I don't care how "beat up" MVP is at the moment you have to be an amazing player to beat him regardless of his condition.
Never pass up a good thing.
hysterial
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2044 Posts
March 26 2012 21:10 GMT
#38988
On March 27 2012 05:38 Thrax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 05:36 hysterial wrote:
On March 27 2012 05:31 Forikorder wrote:
On March 27 2012 05:30 hysterial wrote:
On March 27 2012 05:29 Forikorder wrote:
i really wish we could ahve seen MVP at his best VS IdrA


MvP used to have the best TvZ in the world, so I doubt it would be close.

i dunno IdrA has been on a tear TvZ lately, despite getting cheesed out by polt he still beat Supernova, Thorzain and Jinro


Idra has always had fantastic TvZ no doubt. But MVP is(was..) just on another level from most terrans.


Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 05:09 hysterial wrote:
Lol MVP... This is by far the worst I have ever seen him play. Losing to a scrub like Idra :/.

Can you please clarify if IdrA has fantastic ZvT or if he is a scrub?


Congrats. I do think he has fantastic ZvT, mediocre ZvZ, and abysmal ZvP like any level-headed person. I also feel in reference to a multi-GSL winner he is not on his level. I'm sorry if you disagree with that sentiment.
Thrax
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1755 Posts
March 26 2012 21:13 GMT
#38989
Is saying he is on a tear against Terrans when he beat all of four terrans (two with bad TvZ, one who consistently underperforms in foreign tournaments, and one whose play has greatly deteriorated due to wrist problems) an exaggeration?

Yes it's an exaggeration. It's still positive though, maybe he is coming out of his slump. Maybe he is gaining in confidence. Maybe his new style is working well.
Is saying that Idra is better than Polt with zero evidence an exaggeration?

Yes. All signs point to the opposite. IdrA, please prove everybody wrong
Is whining about Polt "cheesing" Idra when Idra flopped and died to a standard TvZ opener an exaggeration?

A loss is a loss. I'm fine with people being unhappy with the style of Polt. The definition of cheese varies so much, I don't think there is value in arguing one way or another.

um who said that IdrA was better then polt? they played one Bo3 you cant decide whos better from one Bo3

IdrA hasn't proved he is better than Polt. There is a good case to say the opposite. That BO3 and a lot of ladder games.

and yes, IdrA absolutely destroying 4 good terrans is extremely good news, despite how well they normally do in TvZ there still very good terrans who dont go down easily and they all got demolished by IdrA

It's good news, but let's not get ahead of ourselves.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
March 26 2012 21:13 GMT
#38990
On March 27 2012 06:02 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 05:57 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On March 27 2012 05:49 VashTS wrote:
On March 27 2012 05:48 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On March 27 2012 05:44 VashTS wrote:
On March 27 2012 05:42 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On March 27 2012 05:31 Forikorder wrote:
On March 27 2012 05:30 hysterial wrote:
On March 27 2012 05:29 Forikorder wrote:
i really wish we could ahve seen MVP at his best VS IdrA


MvP used to have the best TvZ in the world, so I doubt it would be close.

i dunno IdrA has been on a tear TvZ lately, despite getting cheesed out by polt he still beat Supernova, Thorzain and Jinro


Jinro and his sub 30% winrate against Code B zergs. Thorzain and his weakest matchup by far. Supernova and his inexplicable collapses in foreign tournaments. I'm glad that Idra has a victory to silence the haters, but his homers really need to stop overhyping every little thing that goes right for him.

Some people will do/say anything to make a win seem insignificant.


Not insignificant, not anything to exaggerate. He played against an opponent who was performing at a subpar level. Of course people will obviously hype up the victory itself and completely ignore how Idra is finally adapting a new style in ZvT, one that will be far more successful for his mindset in the matchup. That is what Idra fans should truly be excited about.

So being glad that he beat MVP is an exaggeration?


Is saying he is on a tear against Terrans when he beat all of four terrans (two with bad TvZ, one who consistently underperforms in foreign tournaments, and one whose play has greatly deteriorated due to wrist problems) an exaggeration? Is saying that Idra is better than Polt with zero evidence an exaggeration? Is whining about Polt "cheesing" Idra when Idra flopped and died to a standard TvZ opener an exaggeration?

um who said that IdrA was better then polt? they played one Bo3 you cant decide whos better from one Bo3

and yes, IdrA absolutely destroying 4 good terrans is extremely good news, despite how well they normally do in TvZ there still very good terrans who dont go down easily and they all got demolished by IdrA


I can decide based on months and months of results, which decisively favor Polt.

This is exactly what I am talking about. Let's cherrypick as many positive results as possible and blind ourselves to everything that does not exist in our fantasy world. Let's ignore the fact that Supernova was the only player Idra beat in a series at IEM World Championships, that Idra beat Jinro when Jinro has not won a TvZ series in Korea in over a year, that he beat Thorzain just after he got embarrassed by Cloud.

On March 27 2012 06:04 Chupacabra(UCSD) wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 05:57 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On March 27 2012 05:49 VashTS wrote:
On March 27 2012 05:48 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On March 27 2012 05:44 VashTS wrote:
On March 27 2012 05:42 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On March 27 2012 05:31 Forikorder wrote:
On March 27 2012 05:30 hysterial wrote:
On March 27 2012 05:29 Forikorder wrote:
i really wish we could ahve seen MVP at his best VS IdrA


MvP used to have the best TvZ in the world, so I doubt it would be close.

i dunno IdrA has been on a tear TvZ lately, despite getting cheesed out by polt he still beat Supernova, Thorzain and Jinro


Jinro and his sub 30% winrate against Code B zergs. Thorzain and his weakest matchup by far. Supernova and his inexplicable collapses in foreign tournaments. I'm glad that Idra has a victory to silence the haters, but his homers really need to stop overhyping every little thing that goes right for him.

Some people will do/say anything to make a win seem insignificant.


Not insignificant, not anything to exaggerate. He played against an opponent who was performing at a subpar level. Of course people will obviously hype up the victory itself and completely ignore how Idra is finally adapting a new style in ZvT, one that will be far more successful for his mindset in the matchup. That is what Idra fans should truly be excited about.

So being glad that he beat MVP is an exaggeration?


Is saying he is on a tear against Terrans when he beat all of four terrans (two with bad TvZ, one who consistently underperforms in foreign tournaments, and one whose play has greatly deteriorated due to wrist problems) an exaggeration? Is saying that Idra is better than Polt with zero evidence an exaggeration? Is whining about Polt "cheesing" Idra when Idra flopped and died to a standard TvZ opener an exaggeration?


Didn't MVP beat Symbol (an amazing zerg) in this same tournament. I don't care how "beat up" MVP is at the moment you have to be an amazing player to beat him regardless of his condition.


Didn't Symbol just make it to Code A? Does beating one person in a BoX mean you're back in form? I'd like to see consistency from Idra before I start making inferences about his current skill level.
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Cerubellum
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark58 Posts
March 26 2012 21:15 GMT
#38991
Am i the only one who thinks it is really weird that people expect IdrA fans not to exaggerate victories or excuse defeats in his fanclub? One would think it would be the reverse.
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Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-26 21:32:11
March 26 2012 21:26 GMT
#38992
On March 27 2012 06:15 Cerubellum wrote:
Am i the only one who thinks it is really weird that people expect IdrA fans not to exaggerate victories or excuse defeats in his fanclub? One would think it would be the reverse.


Dunno, I'm a pretty rabid MC fanboy but if he plays like shit his fanclub tends to just say he's playing like shit and we try not to overexaggerate victories. I'm a member of this fanclub too from way back, I just try to be realistic about where a player stands and what a victory actually means for him. IdrA did make very few mistakes and played a good style compared to his way outdated mutacentric play though, but a victory over the name MVP feels very lackluster to me here.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
Sphen5117
Profile Joined September 2011
United States413 Posts
March 26 2012 21:26 GMT
#38993
On March 27 2012 06:10 hysterial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 05:38 Thrax wrote:
On March 27 2012 05:36 hysterial wrote:
On March 27 2012 05:31 Forikorder wrote:
On March 27 2012 05:30 hysterial wrote:
On March 27 2012 05:29 Forikorder wrote:
i really wish we could ahve seen MVP at his best VS IdrA


MvP used to have the best TvZ in the world, so I doubt it would be close.

i dunno IdrA has been on a tear TvZ lately, despite getting cheesed out by polt he still beat Supernova, Thorzain and Jinro


Idra has always had fantastic TvZ no doubt. But MVP is(was..) just on another level from most terrans.


On March 27 2012 05:09 hysterial wrote:
Lol MVP... This is by far the worst I have ever seen him play. Losing to a scrub like Idra :/.

Can you please clarify if IdrA has fantastic ZvT or if he is a scrub?


Congrats. I do think he has fantastic ZvT, mediocre ZvZ, and abysmal ZvP like any level-headed person. I also feel in reference to a multi-GSL winner he is not on his level. I'm sorry if you disagree with that sentiment.


So then why did you come to someone's fanclub to call them a scrub?
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
March 26 2012 21:27 GMT
#38994
On March 27 2012 06:13 Thrax wrote:
Yes it's an exaggeration. It's still positive though, maybe he is coming out of his slump. Maybe he is gaining in confidence. Maybe his new style is working well.


See, exactly what I am talking about. There is no other fanclub on TL where cautious optimism/spontaneous celebration is in such short supply. Why can't people just be happy about Idra winning this series and make no big leaps in logic?
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Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
March 26 2012 21:31 GMT
#38995
Woo! Idra won ^^

Didn't catch the games, yet. Gotta see those vods. Glad to see him with two strong showings back to back.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
March 26 2012 21:33 GMT
#38996
Well, I'd say there are LOTS of spontaneous celebration. Just, Idra has a way bigger and louder fanbase than pretty much everyone, and that attracts more people, and if there are lots more people, there are bound to be someone who does that
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
AysiktiriX
Profile Joined June 2011
358 Posts
March 26 2012 21:36 GMT
#38997
I'd really celebrate for him, if what we saw from MVP didn't look like he played with his feet
PandaMonk
Profile Joined June 2011
United States300 Posts
March 26 2012 21:50 GMT
#38998
Idra beats MVP, pretty good, MVP prob isnt the same lvl as mma anymore, but still shows idra has what it takes.
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-26 22:00:27
March 26 2012 21:57 GMT
#38999
Hi to all the new people, now go cry about how IdrA beating MVP 2-0 somewhere else. Here is where men go to celebrate.
MountainGoat
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States507 Posts
March 26 2012 22:33 GMT
#39000
Haha I'm used to a shitstorm whenever IdrA loses. It's refreshing to see a shitstorm when he wins instead.
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