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rinoh
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States335 Posts
October 06 2009 05:07 GMT
#1621
eh I haven't even listened to Flo Rida's song, just wanted to make a good joke haha
Honestly I don't care too much about plagiarism in the Korean music industry; most of the artists don't even write their own songs, it's all producers...
베르사유의 장미
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
October 06 2009 05:50 GMT
#1622
On October 04 2009 07:56 GTR wrote:
csjh own and 2ne1 suck so get out of this thread pink.


Actually 2NE1 doesn't suck (in my opinion ).

I think their music actually tends to stand out amongst the stuff the other girl groups are coming up with. I saw the many negative comments about "Fire", but it actually appealed to me right away and made me take notice of 2NE1 because there wasn't any other Kpop out there like it. It was a song that had great beat and makes you want to dance to it, not just copy some practiced routine you saw in a MV or on stage. The song and their performances (in the MV and on stage) had more "attitude" than the rest of the girl groups, with a noticeable hip hop and R&B feel to all their songs.

Also, their impressive live performances and focus on trying to give something new in each of them by tweaking the choreography or presentation stood out again amongst many others whose only changes were to their outfits each time. I like how they dramatized some of their performances, such as with "I Don't Care" and "In The Club", which you don't see with any of the other groups. Their live covers of American songs like "Take A Bow" and "Umbrella", and even Big Bang's "We Belong Together" made them seem even more distinctive amongst Kpop girl groups.

Everyone's entitled to their opinion, but I felt that I would provide an alternative to what appears to be a slightly negative general opinion regarding this group.
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XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
October 06 2009 06:01 GMT
#1623
On October 06 2009 14:07 rinoh wrote:
eh I haven't even listened to Flo Rida's song, just wanted to make a good joke haha
Honestly I don't care too much about plagiarism in the Korean music industry; most of the artists don't even write their own songs, it's all producers...


While I do think there are strong similarities between "Heartbreaker" and "Right Round", I don't think it's necessarily a case of plagiarism either. From my experience, a lot of music in other countries (particularly their pop music) tends to be strongly influenced, if not blatantly imitating, popular US music. I don't want to come off as an arrogant American, but I don't think it's inaccurate to state that the US music industry (and entertainment industry in general) is considered to be the best in the world, and it's not unexpected that other countries will take what they like and try to incorporate it into their own work.

Overall, I think that there's been an unfair amount of focus on the alleged plagiarism from G-Dragon, and YG in general. With the sheer amount of music being produced all around the world, and the way popular trends and tastes spread worldwide so quickly with the Internet, it's inevitable that some music will resemble each other. Lots of songs could be broken apart and argued to be "plagiarism", but I suspect that most of it is a result of producers/artists being influenced by other producers/artists and incorporating what they hear in their own work.

With regards to G-Dragon specifically, I don't doubt that he really wrote and produced "Heartbreaker" himself, and did not consciously make it sound so similar to "Right Round". I'm sure he listens to a lot of music, particularly hip hop, and I'm sure he was up-to-date with what was currently popular, particularly in hip hop, and carelessly let his work sound too much like another popular song. What's funny is that "Right Round" is itself a cover of a much older song.
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rinoh
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States335 Posts
October 06 2009 15:09 GMT
#1624
Right Round is a cover as well? That makes things interesting haha
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broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
October 06 2009 16:40 GMT
#1625
yeah, the original was an 80's pop song called "you spin me round" by dead or alive. it's been covered a few times by notable acts. just do a search for the song on youtube, and you might be surprised by the names who covered this song. to flo rida's credit, he mostly uses the hook of the song. g-dragon basically takes flo rida's style and delivery when he does his "rapping" in heartbreaker.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51706 Posts
October 06 2009 23:44 GMT
#1626
Tukutz going to the military in a week
Epik High hiatus or will they find a new DJ?
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NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
October 07 2009 00:20 GMT
#1627
On October 07 2009 08:44 GTR wrote:
Tukutz going to the military in a week
Epik High hiatus or will they find a new DJ?


I just heard about this - I'm going to miss him. He was so adorably eccentric at their last concert. It's lovely to hear he's getting married to his long-time GF though. I hope they don't go on hiatus. At this point in the group (just released the new album etc.) it doesn't make much sense.
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
October 07 2009 08:04 GMT
#1628
WHAT TUKUT IS GOING TO MILITARY?!?!?!?!?!?!

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

WHO WILL DRIVE EPIK HIGH'S CAR NOW???
dats racist
NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
October 07 2009 08:16 GMT
#1629
On October 07 2009 17:04 MrHoon wrote:
WHAT TUKUT IS GOING TO MILITARY?!?!?!?!?!?!

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

WHO WILL DRIVE EPIK HIGH'S CAR NOW???


MYK?

FML. I LOVED THAT GUY. *BWAH*
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51706 Posts
October 07 2009 23:43 GMT
#1630
Now you! can be a K-Pop Star!

http://www.allkpop.com/index.php/full_story/sm_global_audition_2009/
http://www.allkpop.com/index.php/full_story/the_jyp_usa_audition_tour/
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yooh
Profile Joined March 2009
China223 Posts
October 08 2009 00:27 GMT
#1631
On October 08 2009 08:43 GTR wrote:
Now you! can be a K-Pop Star!

http://www.allkpop.com/index.php/full_story/sm_global_audition_2009/
http://www.allkpop.com/index.php/full_story/the_jyp_usa_audition_tour/



right here
imperfect
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada1652 Posts
October 08 2009 01:56 GMT
#1632
oh shit.. tukutz

i didnt know T_T

no more epik high for 2 years? T_T
blind bisu free and anytime fanboy.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51706 Posts
October 08 2009 05:57 GMT
#1633
A source from Epik High's agency said, "On Music Core this coming Saturday, it will be their last performance for their 6th album. It is sad that we are stopping as it was only released not long ago. But we decided to stop due to Tukutz's impending absence."

With Tukutz enlisting for military service, they also talked about Tablo and Mithra's future activities, stating, "They will still continue with composing songs and appearing on broadcasts. Their individual activities are currently being discussed."


LONG LONG TIME WITHOUT EPIK HIGH =[
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T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
October 08 2009 06:07 GMT
#1634
On October 08 2009 14:57 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
A source from Epik High's agency said, "On Music Core this coming Saturday, it will be their last performance for their 6th album. It is sad that we are stopping as it was only released not long ago. But we decided to stop due to Tukutz's impending absence."

With Tukutz enlisting for military service, they also talked about Tablo and Mithra's future activities, stating, "They will still continue with composing songs and appearing on broadcasts. Their individual activities are currently being discussed."


LONG LONG TIME WITHOUT EPIK HIGH =[

They should all do their military service so they could all come back at the same time 2 years later.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
October 08 2009 09:57 GMT
#1635
On October 08 2009 15:07 T.O.P. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2009 14:57 GTR wrote:
A source from Epik High's agency said, "On Music Core this coming Saturday, it will be their last performance for their 6th album. It is sad that we are stopping as it was only released not long ago. But we decided to stop due to Tukutz's impending absence."

With Tukutz enlisting for military service, they also talked about Tablo and Mithra's future activities, stating, "They will still continue with composing songs and appearing on broadcasts. Their individual activities are currently being discussed."


LONG LONG TIME WITHOUT EPIK HIGH =[

They should all do their military service so they could all come back at the same time 2 years later.

unfortunately you can't just march in the army base and tell them "i wanna go 2 army plz"

Even at the fastest, the earliest the other members COULD go is 3-5 months. Ever since the economy has been goin down the drain a bunch of Korean Males applied to the army and it got kinda over bloated, hence a longer wait period.

미쓰라 (god knows how you spell this in english) has to go soon.

As far as I know, Tablo doesn't need to go due to his Canadian Citizenship.
dats racist
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51706 Posts
October 08 2009 10:07 GMT
#1636
Mithra Jin.

reminds me of a town in Final Fantasy 7
Commentator
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51706 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-08 12:35:12
October 08 2009 12:31 GMT
#1637
Also this is awesome;



Is there an album for this? It's like Seo Taiji's version of Metallica's S&M.

Commentator
SiZ.FaNtAsY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)1497 Posts
October 08 2009 14:59 GMT
#1638
On October 06 2009 14:50 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2009 07:56 GTR wrote:
csjh own and 2ne1 suck so get out of this thread pink.


Actually 2NE1 doesn't suck (in my opinion ).

I think their music actually tends to stand out amongst the stuff the other girl groups are coming up with. I saw the many negative comments about "Fire", but it actually appealed to me right away and made me take notice of 2NE1 because there wasn't any other Kpop out there like it. It was a song that had great beat and makes you want to dance to it, not just copy some practiced routine you saw in a MV or on stage. The song and their performances (in the MV and on stage) had more "attitude" than the rest of the girl groups, with a noticeable hip hop and R&B feel to all their songs.

Also, their impressive live performances and focus on trying to give something new in each of them by tweaking the choreography or presentation stood out again amongst many others whose only changes were to their outfits each time. I like how they dramatized some of their performances, such as with "I Don't Care" and "In The Club", which you don't see with any of the other groups. Their live covers of American songs like "Take A Bow" and "Umbrella", and even Big Bang's "We Belong Together" made them seem even more distinctive amongst Kpop girl groups.

Everyone's entitled to their opinion, but I felt that I would provide an alternative to what appears to be a slightly negative general opinion regarding this group.


What Cyric Said.
I find 2ne1 the best out of all girl groups.
Karma is a bitch
520
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2822 Posts
October 08 2009 15:08 GMT
#1639
SNSD's version of Chocolate Love is much better than f(x)'s in my opinion.
Writer
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
October 08 2009 16:55 GMT
#1640
I like this song, don't think it's been posted
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
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