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affinity_12
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
172 Posts
September 24 2009 06:16 GMT
#1481
groups like FT island are so ultra disturbing for the male viewer.
HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
September 24 2009 06:44 GMT
#1482
On September 24 2009 14:56 MorningMusume11 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2009 14:33 HonestTea wrote:
pretty comprehensive list of plagarism and uncredited sampling in Korean pop

http://blog.naver.com/plokijhu/

Dear Epik High: credit your damn samples boy.


Is the list from a legit source though? A couple songs I hear don't sound very similar to the songs that they're attached to at all, like Clazziquai's Love Again to Fefe Dobson's song and IU's Boo to Mr.T's track on beatmania.




It's not an "official" list, but the guy puts up his accusations and similarities and it's up for the listener to decide.
returns upon momentous occasions.
NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
September 24 2009 06:48 GMT
#1483
On September 24 2009 15:16 affinity_12 wrote:
groups like FT island are so ultra disturbing for the male viewer.


Why? There's nothing wrong with them. They make decent (albeit slightly repetative) music and their target audience is about the same as that of SNSD or Kara. That's like me saying I find the girl groups ultra disturbing. If you don't like it then don't look/listen.
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51467 Posts
September 24 2009 06:51 GMT
#1484
DBSK vs SM

Round 1 goes to DBSK.

oh and roffles tells me that you should die in a fire fusionsdf for liking hara
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NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-24 07:06:03
September 24 2009 07:04 GMT
#1485
On September 24 2009 15:51 GTR wrote:
DBSK vs SM

Round 1 goes to DBSK.

oh and roffles tells me that you should die in a fire fusionsdf for liking hara


SM is getting owned by all this. Now, YG are also having troubles with their plagarism issues. I think it's time for DSP and the other agencies to get their fingers out and take advantage of being (relatively) scandal-free. \

Oh and something tells me my blog rating will regret posting this;

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=102509
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 24 2009 07:08 GMT
#1486
So it seems that Suju-M's Album is now out.

Is it just me, or is the Korean version of Super Girl more heavily Autotuned than the Chinese version?
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ryuu_
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1266 Posts
September 24 2009 07:11 GMT
#1487
On September 24 2009 16:04 NeverGG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2009 15:51 GTR wrote:
DBSK vs SM

Round 1 goes to DBSK.

oh and roffles tells me that you should die in a fire fusionsdf for liking hara


SM is getting owned by all this. Now, YG are also having troubles with their plagarism issues. I think it's time for DSP and the other agencies to get their fingers out and take advantage of being (relatively) scandal-free. \

Oh and something tells me my blog rating will regret posting this;

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=102509


SM is getting some long awaited punishment/retribution, which I hope, helps change some of their faulty management issues and money grubbing. (DBSK HWAITING)

I dunno how much my rating will help but Super Junior pictures 5/5 .
♣ Jaedong. Stork. Bisu. Calm. NaDa. SC2: Sen, MKP, DRG, MMA, Grubby, NonY, Ret, Jinro, TLO, Sheth, HayprO, Zenio,Taeja,Snute, Sea, Rain, MC,Squirtle,Stephano,Parting ,Life, and HEROOOOO <3
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51467 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-24 07:25:08
September 24 2009 07:21 GMT
#1488
what's the point of a super girl in korean
now i'll stop listening to the chinese version haha

although nothing beats kan wo kan kan wo
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MorningMusume11
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-24 14:13:34
September 24 2009 14:05 GMT
#1489
Music Bank lineup:
HAM, b2y, Miss $, SHU-I (Bomb Bomb Bomb), Lee Ji Soo, Han Young, HinT, Yoo Seung Chan, Lee Pani, Gavy NJ, Kim Jong Suh (with BooHwal's Kim Tae Won), Tei, 4Minute, Taegoon, Park Hyo Shin, f(x), BooHwal, Epik High, Korean Matt Perry

Inki Gayo Lineup:
G-Dragon, KARA, Lee Seung Gi, 4Minute, Korean Matt Perry, Tei, f(x), TaeGoon, T-ara & Supernova, MIghty Mouth, NS Yoon Ji, HwaYoBi, Hwang Jung Eum, Gavy NJ, DJ Cho, Han Young

note: Korean Matt Perry = TaeWoo from g.o.d =P
Kang Ji Young(KARA) and NS Yoon Ji are cousins and they're performing on the same day.

[image loading]

^ That's Kang Ji Young's cousin, any UCLA people here have seen her?
lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
September 24 2009 14:12 GMT
#1490
On September 24 2009 15:48 NeverGG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2009 15:16 affinity_12 wrote:
groups like FT island are so ultra disturbing for the male viewer.


Why? There's nothing wrong with them. They make decent (albeit slightly repetative) music and their target audience is about the same as that of SNSD or Kara. That's like me saying I find the girl groups ultra disturbing. If you don't like it then don't look/listen.

uhhh no.. girls can generally like the same sex compared to a male fan
You can't fight the feeling.
1tym
Profile Joined April 2005
Korea (South)2425 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-24 15:33:38
September 24 2009 15:29 GMT
#1491
On September 24 2009 23:12 lokiM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2009 15:48 NeverGG wrote:
On September 24 2009 15:16 affinity_12 wrote:
groups like FT island are so ultra disturbing for the male viewer.


Why? There's nothing wrong with them. They make decent (albeit slightly repetative) music and their target audience is about the same as that of SNSD or Kara. That's like me saying I find the girl groups ultra disturbing. If you don't like it then don't look/listen.

uhhh no.. girls can generally like the same sex compared to a male fan


This is true.. It's not unusual for female groups to have vast majority of their fan base composed of females, 2ne1 for example, has far more female fans compared to males. They're more susceptible and open to the idea of idolizing a same sex person. I personally find 90% of all male Kpop idol groups in Korea too feminine for my liking. Yoo Seung Joon in the old days was a rare exception. Groups like FT island or Shinee are specifically bred targeting pre-adolescent female demographic so why should we even bother? And yes, I don't bother to look and listen as per your suggestion but I felt the need to make this point. 실력이나 음악성이 아닌 콧물묻은 초딩 여자애들 돈 짜내서 장사하는 그룹들 별관심 없음....

And by 'They make decent music' statement you mean Han Sung Ho or Kim do hoon as FT island do not compose any of their songs.
1tym is one time for your mind
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
September 24 2009 16:23 GMT
#1492
On September 24 2009 13:28 ghostWriter wrote:
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On September 24 2009 13:09 fusionsdf wrote:
[image loading]

so pretty


She is very pretty. It feels like her front teeth come out a bit too much, but it's not a big deal.

hmm..am i the only one here who's never found her attractive

beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
September 24 2009 17:17 GMT
#1493
On September 25 2009 01:23 OneOther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2009 13:28 ghostWriter wrote:
On September 24 2009 13:09 fusionsdf wrote:
[image loading]

so pretty


She is very pretty. It feels like her front teeth come out a bit too much, but it's not a big deal.

hmm..am i the only one here who's never found her attractive


I can see why people DO find her attractive, but personally for me, I don't. Her eyes are what bother me as opposed to anything else. They just seem too big for her face (not in this picture). Other than that I'd say she is kinda pretty.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
September 24 2009 17:20 GMT
#1494
On September 25 2009 02:17 beefhamburger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2009 01:23 OneOther wrote:
On September 24 2009 13:28 ghostWriter wrote:
On September 24 2009 13:09 fusionsdf wrote:
[image loading]

so pretty


She is very pretty. It feels like her front teeth come out a bit too much, but it's not a big deal.

hmm..am i the only one here who's never found her attractive


I can see why people DO find her attractive, but personally for me, I don't. Her eyes are what bother me as opposed to anything else. They just seem too big for her face (not in this picture). Other than that I'd say she is kinda pretty.

yeah, same here. her eyes seem too wide apart lol
1tym
Profile Joined April 2005
Korea (South)2425 Posts
September 24 2009 17:36 GMT
#1495
On September 25 2009 02:20 OneOther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2009 02:17 beefhamburger wrote:
On September 25 2009 01:23 OneOther wrote:
On September 24 2009 13:28 ghostWriter wrote:
On September 24 2009 13:09 fusionsdf wrote:
[image loading]

so pretty


She is very pretty. It feels like her front teeth come out a bit too much, but it's not a big deal.

hmm..am i the only one here who's never found her attractive


I can see why people DO find her attractive, but personally for me, I don't. Her eyes are what bother me as opposed to anything else. They just seem too big for her face (not in this picture). Other than that I'd say she is kinda pretty.

yeah, same here. her eyes seem too wide apart lol


Ludacris has a word of advice for you guys

Listen at 3:50.

1tym is one time for your mind
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-24 17:50:53
September 24 2009 17:50 GMT
#1496
On September 25 2009 02:36 1tym wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2009 02:20 OneOther wrote:
On September 25 2009 02:17 beefhamburger wrote:
On September 25 2009 01:23 OneOther wrote:
On September 24 2009 13:28 ghostWriter wrote:
On September 24 2009 13:09 fusionsdf wrote:
[image loading]

so pretty


She is very pretty. It feels like her front teeth come out a bit too much, but it's not a big deal.

hmm..am i the only one here who's never found her attractive


I can see why people DO find her attractive, but personally for me, I don't. Her eyes are what bother me as opposed to anything else. They just seem too big for her face (not in this picture). Other than that I'd say she is kinda pretty.

yeah, same here. her eyes seem too wide apart lol


Ludacris has a word of advice for you guys

Listen at 3:50.

I wouldn't say picky, more like preference. I mean, I'd probably date her (given the chance) if I was a lot younger since she is like 18.
Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
September 24 2009 18:09 GMT
#1497
On September 25 2009 02:50 beefhamburger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2009 02:36 1tym wrote:
On September 25 2009 02:20 OneOther wrote:
On September 25 2009 02:17 beefhamburger wrote:
On September 25 2009 01:23 OneOther wrote:
On September 24 2009 13:28 ghostWriter wrote:
On September 24 2009 13:09 fusionsdf wrote:
[image loading]

so pretty


She is very pretty. It feels like her front teeth come out a bit too much, but it's not a big deal.

hmm..am i the only one here who's never found her attractive


I can see why people DO find her attractive, but personally for me, I don't. Her eyes are what bother me as opposed to anything else. They just seem too big for her face (not in this picture). Other than that I'd say she is kinda pretty.

yeah, same here. her eyes seem too wide apart lol


Ludacris has a word of advice for you guys

Listen at 3:50.

I wouldn't say picky, more like preference. I mean, I'd probably date her (given the chance) if I was a lot younger since she is like 18.

i speak for roffles, he would like to bat her face in.
that's how much he loves her
Thailand is my new obsession
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51467 Posts
September 24 2009 21:14 GMT
#1498
Hi, It's Yang Hyun-Seok.

For the past few months, there were way too many rumours and misunderstandings regarding YG Entertainment. Frankly speaking, we kept our words, because we did not think it was right to defend against every single rumours. I am feeling deeply sorry for burdening you with our silence, and decided to explain ourselves.

I will answer the questions as if we were in an interview setting.

There has been an issue of plarigiarism regarding G-Dragon's solo album title song, Heartbreaker. How come YG has not released an official statement regarding this issue?
Apart from the part of this issue, as a person who loves music, and as a producer who is taking part in improving popular music industry, I apologize from deep below. The reason why YG and G-Dragon did not release a statement up till now, is because we heard that the publishing companies have sent the music file to the original composer, and we have been waiting for a reply.

We did not think it was right to release our opinion before the composers.

It was broadcast on “News Magazine 2580 (시사매거진 2580)” that Sony ATV has sent a warning to YG entertainment. What is YG's response?
First of all, we are very upset towards Sony ATV. Everything they do, they try to justify it in the media as an official statement. I do not know whether they sent the warning to YG or they sent it to broadcast it in the media in the first place.

To the makers of music, the word ‘plarigiarism' represents the worst honour. Even if the composers say ‘it isn't plarigiarized', it remains as unhealed deep wounds to those involved. In case of “Heartbreaker”, the other publishing companies owning 90% of the rights have remained silent, whereas Sony, owning 10% of the rights, have released their “official statement” on the media.

A few days ago, a lawyer from Sony ATV was interviewed with “News magazine 2580″, and told that they have sent a warning to YG entertainment. The only thing YG is concerned about, is that the public is thinking as if YG has been sued from the composers and YG is in a deep trouble. Contrary to the public's belief, the warning Sony ATV sent to YG is nothing but mere document they could send hundreds of copies per day. It contained no opinions of the composers themselves, it looked like it was quickly made to be broadcast. Apart from the lawyer of Sony ATV, there was the president of Sony ATV Korea, Heo Young-Ah. You need to remember that she appeared as a board member for Korean Music Publishing Association; she concealed her identity as the president of Sony ATV Korea.

Ever since this issue of plarigiarism broke out, YG has never asked for anything from Sony ATV. We did not want to resolve this issue without the public knowing. If there needs to be any legal actions taken, YG will try its best, and is not afraid a bit. However, we have heard that Sony ATV has only two to three people working, and we have been concerned with that. “Are they able to contact the composers directly?” “Are the original composers interested in this matter at all?” For nearly a month, we have not heard a single word from the composers, and we are doubting for a bit.

In the warning Sony ATV sent to YG, there are not only G-Dragon's “Heartbreaker” and “Butterfly”, but also 2NE1's “I Don't Care” and Big Bang's Japanese song, “With U”. We were surprised to see new songs being accused, but we will think it as Sony's new strategies, thinking that accusing G-Dragon alone is not enough. For the cases of “I Don't Care” and “With U”, they are the works of YG's main producers, Teddy and Perry. Teddy has been a producer for 10 years, and Perry has been for 15 years. There are hundreds of songs they composed and produced. Among them, there may be cases they might be accused, but for the past 10 years, there has been any accusations for their works. They remained in YG despite the countless scoutings from others. They have high pride
s of their music, and are hurt deeply from Sony ATV's hush press releases. Their hurt pride is not able to be healed fast, and YG has been accused full of “composers who plarigiarize” in the public. To be honest, I think because they are famous and both producers, Sony ATV is using them for their advantage.

Sony ATV has accused that G-Dragon's “Butterfly” has copied OASIS' “She's Electric” for having similar parts. The musician who appeared on “News magazine 2580″ stated that the parts the two songs are similar are 2 bars, panning approximately 5 seconds. But he also stated that because that is the main sequence melody, it may be a problem.

Now, I'd like to ask you a question as well.

A few days ago, Mariah Carey's new song, “Standing O” teaser was released on youtube. Comparing this song to “I Don't Care”, you get 8 bars of similar parts. It is 24 seconds, instead of 5 seconds, also has it as its major motive, and adding up the similar parts together, results in approximately 1 minute. What is Sony ATV's opinion towards this song? I don't know, but I am sure that you can't easily say that Mariah Carey has plagiarized 2NE1's song that was released 3 months ago, although it contains longer and clearer motives from “I Don't Care”.

I have thought reversely as well. “What if this was G-Dragon's music? What if it was the other way around?” It is quite scary.

Although embarrassing to admit, the music Sony ATV presented for “I Don't Care”, none of the composers nor myself have heard the song, because it isn't the type of music we listen to in the first place. Upon Sony ATV's standards, if you were to put together pieces of any music together by force, I do not think any music could be innocent in your standards. If protecting the rights of publishers is Sony ATV's job, you should also take a note that other publishers' dignity and rights are just as important.

Because Sony ATV released such rash public statements, YG and G-Dragon had to receive more sarcastic remarks and offensive responses, but we decided not to release our statement towards Sony ATV through the media. It is because we respected your company, NOT because we did not have anything to say. The first and last proposal from YG to Sony ATV, is that please deliver us the opinions from the original composers to YG, and stop releasing unconfirmed statement to the media before anything finalizes. If the 4 songs you warned YG are proved to be innocent in the near-future, you should be prepared to see YG's reaction.

Where does YG stand in this plarigiarism issue?
In my opinion, all the arguments and discussions could be seen different depending on the views and the viewers. So, I cannot explain my personal opinion of whether it was influenced by other songs or not.

However, in the centre of attention, there is “Heartbreaker”. This issue emerged above the surface because it had similar rap-flow as Flo Rida's "Right Round". Right Round is an extremely famous song even in Korea, and recently another Korean artist has sung it with translation, and appeared on the media. It is impossible that the composers at YG and G-Dragon tried to go around their way to plagiarize. It is impossible, because with the internet and all, everything gets revealed quickly.

Many expressed their concerns, “Why did G-Dragon do this? For the rappers who write and rap, it shouldn't be hard to fix a few verses and re-recording”, and “How come did Yang Hyun-Seok, Teddy, Perry and Kush never mention that to G-Dragon?” It isn't because we were trying to fool the public, but the other way around. I did not expect such a stir among the public, and I think I should be 100 folds more responsible than G-Dragon as the executive producer. I am truly sorry to G-Dragon and his fans who are burdened alone.

Any more wrongs from the media and misunderstandings?
YG never released a statement that “Heartbreaker is G-Dragon's solo-composed piece. Would the public like this piece if this was a plarigiarized piece?”. This is absurd and truly psychotic. Due to high interest to Big Bang and 2NE1, there are many unsaid things being reported to the media, and rumours are creating more rumours. Because I do not socialize as much, there are haters and misunderstandings happening frequently.

Recently, KBS Radio boycotted all the YG music from being played on the air, and because 2NE1's manager declined an interview request, one newspaper continuously pours out articles containing some crap about YG. Even yesterday, he wrote that “Yang Hyun-seok is loving his artists in the wrong way”. For the past three months, there are over 30 articles he wrote against YG. I think the saying, ‘you never get tired' suits him for sure. I think it may be because he has too much love and interest towards YG.

Mere entertainment companies can't fight against media corporations. It is also hard to lobby them to put on better articles. I try to think to groom myself first instead of talking badly of others these days.

There are opinions which claim that “the issue has elevated because YG has been covering G-Dragon as a genius composer”. What do you think about this?
The funny thing is, for the past 9 years G-Dragon has resided in YG, YG & I have never/ called him a genius composer. I am known to be cold and objective from my artists. The fans know that I am not that kind of person complementing the artists often. In opposite, the fans were upset because I talked about G-Dragon's collaboration process with others.

There are around 60 songs which G-Dragon took part in composing and writing lyrics. Usually he wrote the lyrics by himself, but when composing music, he collaborated with many people. The reason is because he has been really busy to take time arranging the songs. When G-Dragon was 16 years old, I have used my own personal money to get him some musical gear, and G-Dragon has made many hiphop tracks, but because Big Bang debuted and had rigorous schedule, it had been stopped. I heard that there are 10 people holding license for “Right Round”. It is such an ordinary way of composing music with others.

A few months ago, it is important to be able to arrange songs you have composed, but it is also important to make the melodies and lyrics, and designing the structure of the song as a whole. They are important because they cannot be only learned. You need that sense of gift for that part.

The term ‘genius' does not suit the 22-year-old composer, and nor does he want it. The reason why so many people have their hopes for him, is not because he is a genius, but because he has his unique style and sense towards music. Extraordinary 13-year-old boy has become the G-Dragon of today, and people see him in the long run and in his potential from today.

There are sayings that this issue is part of the marketing for YG.
First of all, YG is not that clever to come up with a marketing plan like this. Especially for G-Dragon, he was receiving enough attention as the leader of a famous idol group in Korea, and for releasing his ever-first solo album. He is even cutting off the appearance on the stage…

There are also rumours that you are having troubles with one broadcasting company, because your artists are not appearing on the stage.
Whenever I hear about these rumours, I feel bad towards the broadcasting company. I think this was derived because of YG's marketing scheme of appearing only 1 show per week. YG is only concerned about the best program for its artists, we do not try to make better connection with the broadcasting companies. We are not ignoring the broadcasting company, nor does the company boycotting the appearance of YG artists. In the eyes of broadcasting company, there are way too many artists wanting to appear the show. However, 2NE1 and G-Dragon has not requested to be on the show… It is only fair that they do not need to cast YG artists from their side.

Again, I apologize for any misunderstandings.

Now, the good news
This weekend, we are filming Tae Yang's music video “Where U At” with Seo Hyung-Seung PD. We know that his promotion period was extremely short. We are trying to come up with ideas for longer promotion period. It is being planned that the song will be released with a music video as digital media first. The estimated date for Tae Yang's full volume cd is still to be announced. I will keep you posted about Tae Yang soon.

On the first weekend of December, there will be G-Dragon's solo concert. It will be held in Olympic Gymnastics Stadium, and there will be two concerts. A detailed notice will be posted up soon, and the ticketing will be done after the Chinese New Year.

That's it for now. I will try to come back only with the happy news next time.

2009 09 24
From YG


zzzzz
Commentator
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-24 21:39:34
September 24 2009 21:38 GMT
#1499
On September 25 2009 03:09 Hyaach wrote:
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On September 25 2009 02:20 OneOther wrote:
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On September 24 2009 13:28 ghostWriter wrote:
On September 24 2009 13:09 fusionsdf wrote:
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so pretty


She is very pretty. It feels like her front teeth come out a bit too much, but it's not a big deal.

hmm..am i the only one here who's never found her attractive


I can see why people DO find her attractive, but personally for me, I don't. Her eyes are what bother me as opposed to anything else. They just seem too big for her face (not in this picture). Other than that I'd say she is kinda pretty.

yeah, same here. her eyes seem too wide apart lol


Ludacris has a word of advice for you guys

Listen at 3:50.

I wouldn't say picky, more like preference. I mean, I'd probably date her (given the chance) if I was a lot younger since she is like 18.

i speak for roffles, he would like to bat her face in.
that's how much he loves her

And that's one example of why he's banned. Thank god.

On September 25 2009 06:14 GTR wrote:
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Hi, It's Yang Hyun-Seok.

For the past few months, there were way too many rumours and misunderstandings regarding YG Entertainment. Frankly speaking, we kept our words, because we did not think it was right to defend against every single rumours. I am feeling deeply sorry for burdening you with our silence, and decided to explain ourselves.

I will answer the questions as if we were in an interview setting.

There has been an issue of plarigiarism regarding G-Dragon's solo album title song, Heartbreaker. How come YG has not released an official statement regarding this issue?
Apart from the part of this issue, as a person who loves music, and as a producer who is taking part in improving popular music industry, I apologize from deep below. The reason why YG and G-Dragon did not release a statement up till now, is because we heard that the publishing companies have sent the music file to the original composer, and we have been waiting for a reply.

We did not think it was right to release our opinion before the composers.

It was broadcast on “News Magazine 2580 (시사매거진 2580)” that Sony ATV has sent a warning to YG entertainment. What is YG's response?
First of all, we are very upset towards Sony ATV. Everything they do, they try to justify it in the media as an official statement. I do not know whether they sent the warning to YG or they sent it to broadcast it in the media in the first place.

To the makers of music, the word ‘plarigiarism' represents the worst honour. Even if the composers say ‘it isn't plarigiarized', it remains as unhealed deep wounds to those involved. In case of “Heartbreaker”, the other publishing companies owning 90% of the rights have remained silent, whereas Sony, owning 10% of the rights, have released their “official statement” on the media.

A few days ago, a lawyer from Sony ATV was interviewed with “News magazine 2580″, and told that they have sent a warning to YG entertainment. The only thing YG is concerned about, is that the public is thinking as if YG has been sued from the composers and YG is in a deep trouble. Contrary to the public's belief, the warning Sony ATV sent to YG is nothing but mere document they could send hundreds of copies per day. It contained no opinions of the composers themselves, it looked like it was quickly made to be broadcast. Apart from the lawyer of Sony ATV, there was the president of Sony ATV Korea, Heo Young-Ah. You need to remember that she appeared as a board member for Korean Music Publishing Association; she concealed her identity as the president of Sony ATV Korea.

Ever since this issue of plarigiarism broke out, YG has never asked for anything from Sony ATV. We did not want to resolve this issue without the public knowing. If there needs to be any legal actions taken, YG will try its best, and is not afraid a bit. However, we have heard that Sony ATV has only two to three people working, and we have been concerned with that. “Are they able to contact the composers directly?” “Are the original composers interested in this matter at all?” For nearly a month, we have not heard a single word from the composers, and we are doubting for a bit.

In the warning Sony ATV sent to YG, there are not only G-Dragon's “Heartbreaker” and “Butterfly”, but also 2NE1's “I Don't Care” and Big Bang's Japanese song, “With U”. We were surprised to see new songs being accused, but we will think it as Sony's new strategies, thinking that accusing G-Dragon alone is not enough. For the cases of “I Don't Care” and “With U”, they are the works of YG's main producers, Teddy and Perry. Teddy has been a producer for 10 years, and Perry has been for 15 years. There are hundreds of songs they composed and produced. Among them, there may be cases they might be accused, but for the past 10 years, there has been any accusations for their works. They remained in YG despite the countless scoutings from others. They have high pride
s of their music, and are hurt deeply from Sony ATV's hush press releases. Their hurt pride is not able to be healed fast, and YG has been accused full of “composers who plarigiarize” in the public. To be honest, I think because they are famous and both producers, Sony ATV is using them for their advantage.

Sony ATV has accused that G-Dragon's “Butterfly” has copied OASIS' “She's Electric” for having similar parts. The musician who appeared on “News magazine 2580″ stated that the parts the two songs are similar are 2 bars, panning approximately 5 seconds. But he also stated that because that is the main sequence melody, it may be a problem.

Now, I'd like to ask you a question as well.

A few days ago, Mariah Carey's new song, “Standing O” teaser was released on youtube. Comparing this song to “I Don't Care”, you get 8 bars of similar parts. It is 24 seconds, instead of 5 seconds, also has it as its major motive, and adding up the similar parts together, results in approximately 1 minute. What is Sony ATV's opinion towards this song? I don't know, but I am sure that you can't easily say that Mariah Carey has plagiarized 2NE1's song that was released 3 months ago, although it contains longer and clearer motives from “I Don't Care”.

I have thought reversely as well. “What if this was G-Dragon's music? What if it was the other way around?” It is quite scary.

Although embarrassing to admit, the music Sony ATV presented for “I Don't Care”, none of the composers nor myself have heard the song, because it isn't the type of music we listen to in the first place. Upon Sony ATV's standards, if you were to put together pieces of any music together by force, I do not think any music could be innocent in your standards. If protecting the rights of publishers is Sony ATV's job, you should also take a note that other publishers' dignity and rights are just as important.

Because Sony ATV released such rash public statements, YG and G-Dragon had to receive more sarcastic remarks and offensive responses, but we decided not to release our statement towards Sony ATV through the media. It is because we respected your company, NOT because we did not have anything to say. The first and last proposal from YG to Sony ATV, is that please deliver us the opinions from the original composers to YG, and stop releasing unconfirmed statement to the media before anything finalizes. If the 4 songs you warned YG are proved to be innocent in the near-future, you should be prepared to see YG's reaction.

Where does YG stand in this plarigiarism issue?
In my opinion, all the arguments and discussions could be seen different depending on the views and the viewers. So, I cannot explain my personal opinion of whether it was influenced by other songs or not.

However, in the centre of attention, there is “Heartbreaker”. This issue emerged above the surface because it had similar rap-flow as Flo Rida's "Right Round". Right Round is an extremely famous song even in Korea, and recently another Korean artist has sung it with translation, and appeared on the media. It is impossible that the composers at YG and G-Dragon tried to go around their way to plagiarize. It is impossible, because with the internet and all, everything gets revealed quickly.

Many expressed their concerns, “Why did G-Dragon do this? For the rappers who write and rap, it shouldn't be hard to fix a few verses and re-recording”, and “How come did Yang Hyun-Seok, Teddy, Perry and Kush never mention that to G-Dragon?” It isn't because we were trying to fool the public, but the other way around. I did not expect such a stir among the public, and I think I should be 100 folds more responsible than G-Dragon as the executive producer. I am truly sorry to G-Dragon and his fans who are burdened alone.

Any more wrongs from the media and misunderstandings?
YG never released a statement that “Heartbreaker is G-Dragon's solo-composed piece. Would the public like this piece if this was a plarigiarized piece?”. This is absurd and truly psychotic. Due to high interest to Big Bang and 2NE1, there are many unsaid things being reported to the media, and rumours are creating more rumours. Because I do not socialize as much, there are haters and misunderstandings happening frequently.

Recently, KBS Radio boycotted all the YG music from being played on the air, and because 2NE1's manager declined an interview request, one newspaper continuously pours out articles containing some crap about YG. Even yesterday, he wrote that “Yang Hyun-seok is loving his artists in the wrong way”. For the past three months, there are over 30 articles he wrote against YG. I think the saying, ‘you never get tired' suits him for sure. I think it may be because he has too much love and interest towards YG.

Mere entertainment companies can't fight against media corporations. It is also hard to lobby them to put on better articles. I try to think to groom myself first instead of talking badly of others these days.

There are opinions which claim that “the issue has elevated because YG has been covering G-Dragon as a genius composer”. What do you think about this?
The funny thing is, for the past 9 years G-Dragon has resided in YG, YG & I have never/ called him a genius composer. I am known to be cold and objective from my artists. The fans know that I am not that kind of person complementing the artists often. In opposite, the fans were upset because I talked about G-Dragon's collaboration process with others.

There are around 60 songs which G-Dragon took part in composing and writing lyrics. Usually he wrote the lyrics by himself, but when composing music, he collaborated with many people. The reason is because he has been really busy to take time arranging the songs. When G-Dragon was 16 years old, I have used my own personal money to get him some musical gear, and G-Dragon has made many hiphop tracks, but because Big Bang debuted and had rigorous schedule, it had been stopped. I heard that there are 10 people holding license for “Right Round”. It is such an ordinary way of composing music with others.

A few months ago, it is important to be able to arrange songs you have composed, but it is also important to make the melodies and lyrics, and designing the structure of the song as a whole. They are important because they cannot be only learned. You need that sense of gift for that part.

The term ‘genius' does not suit the 22-year-old composer, and nor does he want it. The reason why so many people have their hopes for him, is not because he is a genius, but because he has his unique style and sense towards music. Extraordinary 13-year-old boy has become the G-Dragon of today, and people see him in the long run and in his potential from today.

There are sayings that this issue is part of the marketing for YG.
First of all, YG is not that clever to come up with a marketing plan like this. Especially for G-Dragon, he was receiving enough attention as the leader of a famous idol group in Korea, and for releasing his ever-first solo album. He is even cutting off the appearance on the stage…

There are also rumours that you are having troubles with one broadcasting company, because your artists are not appearing on the stage.
Whenever I hear about these rumours, I feel bad towards the broadcasting company. I think this was derived because of YG's marketing scheme of appearing only 1 show per week. YG is only concerned about the best program for its artists, we do not try to make better connection with the broadcasting companies. We are not ignoring the broadcasting company, nor does the company boycotting the appearance of YG artists. In the eyes of broadcasting company, there are way too many artists wanting to appear the show. However, 2NE1 and G-Dragon has not requested to be on the show… It is only fair that they do not need to cast YG artists from their side.

Again, I apologize for any misunderstandings.

Now, the good news
This weekend, we are filming Tae Yang's music video “Where U At” with Seo Hyung-Seung PD. We know that his promotion period was extremely short. We are trying to come up with ideas for longer promotion period. It is being planned that the song will be released with a music video as digital media first. The estimated date for Tae Yang's full volume cd is still to be announced. I will keep you posted about Tae Yang soon.

On the first weekend of December, there will be G-Dragon's solo concert. It will be held in Olympic Gymnastics Stadium, and there will be two concerts. A detailed notice will be posted up soon, and the ticketing will be done after the Chinese New Year.

That's it for now. I will try to come back only with the happy news next time.

2009 09 24
From YG


zzzzz

Yeah I read all that earlier. YG didn't really say anything at all about anything.
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On September 25 2009 01:23 OneOther wrote:
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On September 24 2009 13:28 ghostWriter wrote:
On September 24 2009 13:09 fusionsdf wrote:
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so pretty


She is very pretty. It feels like her front teeth come out a bit too much, but it's not a big deal.

hmm..am i the only one here who's never found her attractive



I really hope so
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