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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
September 12 2014 05:19 GMT
#105141
Not sure you actually know the difference between plagiarism and sampling
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
September 12 2014 05:22 GMT
#105142
he does, he;s just expressing his statement in a really dumb misleading way
he says that people are being unfair to korean artists and ignore the same thing (sampling) when western artists use it, double standards and all that jazz

or at least thats what i think he's trying to say
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Grimsolution
Profile Joined August 2012
Norway73 Posts
September 12 2014 06:23 GMT
#105143
On September 12 2014 14:22 andyrau wrote:
he does, he;s just expressing his statement in a really dumb misleading way
he says that people are being unfair to korean artists and ignore the same thing (sampling) when western artists use it, double standards and all that jazz

or at least thats what i think he's trying to say

Well yeh exactly.. Sorry, but in my mind that was pretty clear..... :/
NyanOverlord
Profile Joined March 2013
Russian Federation36 Posts
September 12 2014 07:03 GMT
#105144
https://ia801401.us.archive.org/19/items/GirlsDayFemalePresidentFullHDGomTV/Girl's Day - Female President (Full-HD GomTV).mp4
Female President in 1080p/60 fps
Also, here's pretty cool website with some more 60fps kpop - http://kpop60.com/
Some of them are not real 60fps probably, just upscaled or something, but still.
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-12 07:33:33
September 12 2014 07:32 GMT
#105145
T_T infinite the chaser 60fps is blocked or 404 T_T thats the only one i cared about
need more boy group 60fps (preferably dance ver mvs)
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
September 12 2014 07:55 GMT
#105146
On September 12 2014 14:22 andyrau wrote:
he does, he;s just expressing his statement in a really dumb misleading way
he says that people are being unfair to korean artists and ignore the same thing (sampling) when western artists use it, double standards and all that jazz

or at least thats what i think he's trying to say

There's a difference between the two though. Since he used Kanye for an example, he needs to get clearance from the rights holders of the songs to use them- he re-recorded Lauryn Hill's vocals for All Falls Down and censored School Spirit because of the Aretha Franklin sample. Whereas when people are being accused of plagiarism it's because they're attempting to label their work as original without giving credit
notVorgrim
Profile Joined March 2014
164 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-12 07:58:43
September 12 2014 07:58 GMT
#105147
I think I've heard that T-ara/DV whoever thing in about 10 songs, and I'm not even a fan of that type of "edm".People need to remember that multiple genres of dance music have come out of sampling the same 6 second drum loop. Not that I would expect a clickbait site like Koreaboo to know that.
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-12 08:20:32
September 12 2014 08:19 GMT
#105148
On September 12 2014 16:55 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 14:22 andyrau wrote:
he does, he;s just expressing his statement in a really dumb misleading way
he says that people are being unfair to korean artists and ignore the same thing (sampling) when western artists use it, double standards and all that jazz

or at least thats what i think he's trying to say

There's a difference between the two though. Since he used Kanye for an example, he needs to get clearance from the rights holders of the songs to use them- he re-recorded Lauryn Hill's vocals for All Falls Down and censored School Spirit because of the Aretha Franklin sample. Whereas when people are being accused of plagiarism it's because they're attempting to label their work as original without giving credit

his point was that producers get too much flak for sampling something, he wasn't knocking kanye's work

also on this topic, kanye's tracks often don't include all credits simply because they're too nuanced or too far from the original to justify it
eg, xxplosive was the entire foundation for college dropout
not sure if this was credited either, but the beat for sanctified was just some garbage throwaway from mustard that kanye slowed wayyy down, cleaned up, and slapped a sample over.

I don't think that loop of 2 bars of a significantly modified beat is plagiarism, and I'm not sure it even deserves a credit. it's great if shinsadong tiger credits the original for inspiration, but I feel with the way it's used nobody should really care.
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
September 12 2014 08:23 GMT
#105149
I think the key difference is that Kanye is open in the fact that he's sampling beats whereas Shinsadong Tiger (and all the other kpop artists in plagiarism "controversies" are claiming that everything they make is original. So yeah no one bitches when hiphop producers sample things because it's common knowledge that they do, hip-hop producers have been doing it for decades. Whereas Shinsadong Tiger is claiming implicitly and explicitly that he writes his own music.

Fwiw I don't think this specific case is plagiarism necessarily I was just commenting on that statement.
Nesserev
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium2760 Posts
September 12 2014 09:08 GMT
#105150
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DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
September 12 2014 11:58 GMT
#105151
wtf is he doing here?




And about the plagiarism just no.
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nanashin
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1584 Posts
September 12 2014 12:06 GMT
#105152
On September 12 2014 20:58 DwD wrote:
wtf is he doing here?
+ Show Spoiler +

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSHUT5z5k_M



And about the plagiarism just no.

That's the one that YG bribed cops and families into letting him get away with vehicular manslaughter + pushing his DWI onto the victim/other person involved in the incident, right?

inb4 YG convinces Korea that the road was at fault for veering out from under his car.
Now you must build the lies you have told. - Looking for Boram JP single trading card, have Jiyeon.
SwARmZzz
Profile Joined June 2013
Canada193 Posts
September 12 2014 12:13 GMT
#105153
I change multiple lanes like that as a last resort when I'm about to miss an exit.
But you shouldn't be doing that on a curve. What is kinda suspicious though, is why he refused to go to the hospital on an ambulance...? I mean jesus, your car flipped over... Smells like DUI if you ask me...
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
September 12 2014 12:16 GMT
#105154
There goes my hope of bigbang 2014 comeback. If it's dui he's at least reflecting for 1 1/2 years lol
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-12 15:04:49
September 12 2014 13:29 GMT
#105155
On September 12 2014 21:06 nanashin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 20:58 DwD wrote:
wtf is he doing here?
+ Show Spoiler +

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSHUT5z5k_M



And about the plagiarism just no.

That's the one that YG bribed cops and families into letting him get away with vehicular manslaughter + pushing his DWI onto the victim/other person involved in the incident, right?

inb4 YG convinces Korea that the road was at fault for veering out from under his car.


Ehm no I think this is the one currently in the news.


And spica MV
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giesecke
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany361 Posts
September 12 2014 14:27 GMT
#105156
he might have been falling asleep for a second (what is the english expression for that?)

and the news report is a recent one, the chick is also talking about ladies code
nanashin
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1584 Posts
September 12 2014 14:35 GMT
#105157
I meant memberwise.
Now you must build the lies you have told. - Looking for Boram JP single trading card, have Jiyeon.
Wesso
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands1245 Posts
September 12 2014 15:51 GMT
#105158


A nice start!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 12 2014 16:04 GMT
#105159
Holy shit I love this

I forgot how badly I needed a TTS comeback until just now aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
It's your boy Guzma!
Arawyn
Profile Joined May 2010
United States191 Posts
September 12 2014 16:20 GMT
#105160
SNSD releasing something? What is this alternate universe I've gotten into?
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