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MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
April 06 2010 14:45 GMT
#9141
I swear to god MBC is the only damn channel that always cancels their shows when something big comes up

KBS2 just uses KBS1

SBS never seems to do anything productive for korea.
dats racist
Protocon
Profile Joined February 2010
United States255 Posts
April 06 2010 21:17 GMT
#9142
On April 06 2010 21:54 gameguard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2010 08:01 Megaman703 wrote:
I wouldn't say Gyuri is the vocal carry for Kara, her and HSY are pretty much split on vocal duties, and Nicole is a lot better than people give her credit for.

Everything else Roffles has is more or less accurate.



gyuri is the voal powerhouse of kara. HSY is weak as shit, She has no range and absolutely pitiful projection. Also she annoys me with her awkwardness


Gyuri as the vocal powerhouse of KARA is an overstatement. Have you seen their OSL performance? Towards the end of Wanna it sounded like a cat was dying in Gyuri's mouth.
go to 2:38
+ Show Spoiler +

I tried looking for more individual stuff, all I could find of gyuri was this
+ Show Spoiler +

bad range, pitchy, can't maintain high notes, her ornamentation is hella forced.

KARA is cute as a group, and I like Nicole, but KARA is easily on the low end in terms of groups with vocal talent.
asdf
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51574 Posts
April 06 2010 21:56 GMT
#9143
http://www.theonion.com/articles/asian-economic-woes-force-layoffs-of-700000-pop-st,17144/

haha
Commentator
p53
Profile Joined September 2009
297 Posts
April 06 2010 22:27 GMT
#9144
On April 07 2010 06:56 GTR wrote:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/asian-economic-woes-force-layoffs-of-700000-pop-st,17144/

haha


hahaha GOLD
MorningMusume11
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
April 06 2010 22:37 GMT
#9145
On April 07 2010 06:17 Protocon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2010 21:54 gameguard wrote:
On April 06 2010 08:01 Megaman703 wrote:
I wouldn't say Gyuri is the vocal carry for Kara, her and HSY are pretty much split on vocal duties, and Nicole is a lot better than people give her credit for.

Everything else Roffles has is more or less accurate.



gyuri is the voal powerhouse of kara. HSY is weak as shit, She has no range and absolutely pitiful projection. Also she annoys me with her awkwardness


Gyuri as the vocal powerhouse of KARA is an overstatement. Have you seen their OSL performance? Towards the end of Wanna it sounded like a cat was dying in Gyuri's mouth.
go to 2:38
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfEIGJ0snkg

I tried looking for more individual stuff, all I could find of gyuri was this
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcwxVu2K-Ls

bad range, pitchy, can't maintain high notes, her ornamentation is hella forced.

KARA is cute as a group, and I like Nicole, but KARA is easily on the low end in terms of groups with vocal talent.


Everyone sounds bad in OSL dude. Even SunYe was less than impressive when they did Tell Me. Now who SHOULDN'T have sounded bad was Taeyeon when she sang that duet with Park HyoShin.

However KARA is definitely on the lowest in terms of vocals. Even 4Minute's GaYoon and JiYoon sing better than the GyuRi/SeungYeon/Nicole trio.

After SungHee left, GyuRi, SeungYeon, and Nicole were kinda forced to carry the group vocal wise. KARA's 1st album probably sounds a lot better than the ones succeeding that because the original three weren't required to do as much. It's like they're excellent at being supporting vocals but do maybe above-average job at best when they have to do the heavy lifting (especially GyuRi.). Then again, GyuRi is the leader, so she was the one to step up to the plate vocally (with the exception of Mister which was handled by the SeungYeon / Nicole duo). At the same time they HAVE gotten better. There's a noticeable difference on how well they sing in Rock U vs. Honey.
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
April 07 2010 00:34 GMT
#9146
Seungyeon can sing

Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
kakaman
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1576 Posts
April 07 2010 00:45 GMT
#9147
you guys realize that idols cant sing right? the big secret that most people dont get is that the music shows (inky, music core, etc) are prerecorded and the groups do multiple tapings. so if someone is off or the dance got screwed up, they tape over that. compare that against the live events (OSL, award ceremonies), then you'll see they suck cuz they are so used to having that safety net. taeyeon was terrible with phs cuz 1) she didn't practice with him that much and 2) she wasn't used to singing in one take. unfortunately, in kpop, its quantity not quality that matters
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-07 01:04:51
April 07 2010 01:02 GMT
#9148
On April 07 2010 09:45 kakaman wrote:
most idols cant sing


fixed. theres a small handful that CAN sing
funny, right after the video top posted i was browsing through some old 8eight's perf and some godlike covers by k.will

edit: can we just forget that taeyeon/hyoshin perf plz?
i already forgave her for that perf
Forever Young
Protocon
Profile Joined February 2010
United States255 Posts
April 07 2010 01:02 GMT
#9149
^ HSY = Average at best. Not very powerful. I understand that it's Kpop we're talking about here and these idol groups are more about looks and performances than singing. I get trolled when people claim they can sing when they actually cannot.

asdf
kakaman
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1576 Posts
April 07 2010 01:08 GMT
#9150
The thing that ticks me off the most about kpop is they don't cultivate talent. Korean ppl have ocd or something, they need to have a new single every 4 months. Can you believe Gee was only 1 year ago, and since then, SNSD has released like 15 songs! You guys realize that Michael Jackson has like over 100 unreleased songs cuz he thought they didn't fit his standards. With kpop, they just release any crap and the public soaks it up.
Mobius
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1268 Posts
April 07 2010 01:18 GMT
#9151
On April 07 2010 09:34 T.O.P. wrote:
Seungyeon can sing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UpfJ_rYZmk

I love seungyeon but who is this gay?
Entusman #51
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
April 07 2010 01:22 GMT
#9152
That's Lee Hyun, the guy from 8eight, as the title blatantly says.
God Bless
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
April 07 2010 01:22 GMT
#9153
Idols are not supposed to great at singing. They are only slightly above average. That's because idols are supposed to project of a image of being like "The Girl Next Door", it's so average people can relate to idols and think of them as their friend. That's why during every interview, they answer "I will try harder next time". It's a carefully crafted image created by entertainment companies.

Kpop is not supposed to be hard to sing. Kpop is designed so that people can sing along with their idols in Norebangs.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51574 Posts
April 07 2010 01:25 GMT
#9154
yeh just look at Outsider and (P)IrOn
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Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
April 07 2010 02:10 GMT
#9155
hey guys whos creating the KPOP DISCUSSION THREAD group for FPL R4 o_o
김태연 | 정은지 | 아이유 |  한효주 | 이민정 <3 -|||- 소녀시대 에이핑크 사랑해!
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51574 Posts
April 07 2010 02:48 GMT
#9156
oh shi forgot about that hold up

http://www.teamliquid.net/fantasy/proleague/Standings.php?r=7&g=824
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51574 Posts
April 07 2010 02:49 GMT
#9157
excuse the lame name but whatever
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Belgo
Profile Joined September 2009
United States721 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-07 03:05:31
April 07 2010 03:01 GMT
#9158
On April 07 2010 10:08 kakaman wrote:
The thing that ticks me off the most about kpop is they don't cultivate talent. Korean ppl have ocd or something, they need to have a new single every 4 months. Can you believe Gee was only 1 year ago, and since then, SNSD has released like 15 songs! You guys realize that Michael Jackson has like over 100 unreleased songs cuz he thought they didn't fit his standards. With kpop, they just release any crap and the public soaks it up.




Welcome to the modern day pop music companies mindset. It happens all over the world, not just kpop, some people value money over longevity or anything with creativity.
12 gateways being thrown down, which is standard transition after the two observatory opening
kakaman
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1576 Posts
April 07 2010 03:09 GMT
#9159
I don't agree with that. You have artists who are commercially successful but don't spam appearances all the time. It would actually be more financially profitable for SNSD to have a multi city concert than to do the music shows all time time, promoting songs for 2 weeks at a time. For some reason, SM just wants them to be all over television, 24/7
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
April 07 2010 03:12 GMT
#9160
On April 07 2010 12:09 kakaman wrote:
I don't agree with that. You have artists who are commercially successful but don't spam appearances all the time. It would actually be more financially profitable for SNSD to have a multi city concert than to do the music shows all time time, promoting songs for 2 weeks at a time. For some reason, SM just wants them to be all over television, 24/7

They sell cfs. That's where the money's at.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
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