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Monocle
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1509 Posts
September 11 2012 17:51 GMT
#75761
On September 12 2012 00:20 Sonter wrote:
So found this on r/kpop and its pretty funny. You listen to others and if you want, create your own playlist and be dj. The djs rotate and the listeners vote on the djs songs.

http://www.plug.dj/kpop-town/


This is pretty fun. Some good songs from fellow KMD members, although too much SNSD from everyone else.
PatouPower
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1119 Posts
September 11 2012 18:16 GMT
#75762
Well, it was inevitable: the SNSD ranking (although it has been quite a long time; it used to be more often). So yeah... Hmm... I started with Yuri because she's so pretty, then I went Tiffany >= Taeyeon > everyone else.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 11 2012 18:22 GMT
#75763
Started Yoona (qt as fuck in Gee with the finger twiddling), but after watching more and more it was Tiffany. Always Tiffany in my heart. I sort of miss Redhead Tiffany, was really good in some pictures/videos.

SNSD rankings get somewhat boring because you know most people's bias (or lack thereof) if you've been here for any amount of time. But it's good community building, I guess.
It's your boy Guzma!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 11 2012 18:33 GMT
#75764
On September 12 2012 03:22 Requizen wrote:
Started Yoona (qt as fuck in Gee with the finger twiddling), but after watching more and more it was Tiffany. Always Tiffany in my heart. I sort of miss Redhead Tiffany, was really good in some pictures/videos.

SNSD rankings get somewhat boring because you know most people's bias (or lack thereof) if you've been here for any amount of time. But it's good community building, I guess.

It's always interesting to me how people's first pick switches around. I guess it has to do w/ promotion cycles as well, some promotion cycles make certain members look really flattering.

Also was on 4chan kpop thread, they were coming up with a fantasy league for kpop idols, pretty interesting, the main problem was preventing someone from getting Yoona, without some sacrifice. So some ideas floated around about using a budget system (each person is worth X amount of points), each player gets Y amount of plates (similar to TL's fantasy league).
liftlift > tsm
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
September 11 2012 18:35 GMT
#75765
On September 12 2012 02:43 Fawkes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 02:15 Kuja wrote:
On September 12 2012 02:11 Jarzai wrote:
I figured since this thread is digressing rather than progressing I'l just ask, who is everyone's favorite member of SNSD? I like Yuri

Good god you should be temp banned, you ruined the next 5 pages at least.

That being said Tippany > all, Taeyeon = last

You'll get over your brutal mistake one day

Fighting!

Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 02:41 HaXXspetten wrote:
On September 12 2012 02:15 Kuja wrote:
On September 12 2012 02:11 Jarzai wrote:
I figured since this thread is digressing rather than progressing I'l just ask, who is everyone's favorite member of SNSD? I like Yuri

Good god you should be temp banned, you ruined the next 5 pages at least.

That being said Tippany > all, Taeyeon = last

Now there's smth you don't read every day.

Personally I went from Sica => Yuri => Everyone

bcuz forever nine yo

Were you banned when he got forever scarred?

You guys totally destroying the next few pages of the thread

Not quite sure what you're referring to but ok :s

On September 12 2012 03:33 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 03:22 Requizen wrote:
Started Yoona (qt as fuck in Gee with the finger twiddling), but after watching more and more it was Tiffany. Always Tiffany in my heart. I sort of miss Redhead Tiffany, was really good in some pictures/videos.

SNSD rankings get somewhat boring because you know most people's bias (or lack thereof) if you've been here for any amount of time. But it's good community building, I guess.

It's always interesting to me how people's first pick switches around. I guess it has to do w/ promotion cycles as well, some promotion cycles make certain members look really flattering.

Also was on 4chan kpop thread, they were coming up with a fantasy league for kpop idols, pretty interesting, the main problem was preventing someone from getting Yoona, without some sacrifice. So some ideas floated around about using a budget system (each person is worth X amount of points), each player gets Y amount of plates (similar to TL's fantasy league).

TL Fantasy Kpop League - has to happen
geelaw
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada14 Posts
September 11 2012 18:41 GMT
#75766
thank you so much Syrii! if anymore aweesome wallpapers come out, let me know!! really appreciate it!
NEOtheONE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2233 Posts
September 11 2012 18:50 GMT
#75767
If anyone can make PSY successful in America it's Scooter Braun. I mean he made Justin Bieber what he is today, and if he can do it with Bieber, then think about what he can do with someone who has actual musical talent like PSY. I really hope PSY is able to get America to open up to music from other cultures in general.
Abstracts, the too long didn't read of the educated world.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
September 11 2012 18:54 GMT
#75768
On September 12 2012 03:50 NEOtheONE wrote:
If anyone can make PSY successful in America it's Scooter Braun. I mean he made Justin Bieber what he is today, and if he can do it with Bieber, then think about what he can do with someone who has actual musical talent like PSY. I really hope PSY is able to get America to open up to music from other cultures in general.

This is bad logic because as far as I can tell most of biebers appeal isn't music. Try getting millions of teenage girls to fawn over psy.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 11 2012 18:56 GMT
#75769
On September 12 2012 03:54 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 03:50 NEOtheONE wrote:
If anyone can make PSY successful in America it's Scooter Braun. I mean he made Justin Bieber what he is today, and if he can do it with Bieber, then think about what he can do with someone who has actual musical talent like PSY. I really hope PSY is able to get America to open up to music from other cultures in general.

This is bad logic because as far as I can tell most of biebers appeal isn't music. Try getting millions of teenage girls to fawn over psy.

Which makes me wonder why he (or someone like him) isn't doing exactly that with one of the boy or girl groups. I know 2NE1's tour wasn't huge, but they got around enough where someone could have picked them up for exactly that reason, or someone like Big Bang or SuJu.
It's your boy Guzma!
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
September 11 2012 19:02 GMT
#75770
On September 12 2012 03:56 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 03:54 DystopiaX wrote:
On September 12 2012 03:50 NEOtheONE wrote:
If anyone can make PSY successful in America it's Scooter Braun. I mean he made Justin Bieber what he is today, and if he can do it with Bieber, then think about what he can do with someone who has actual musical talent like PSY. I really hope PSY is able to get America to open up to music from other cultures in general.

This is bad logic because as far as I can tell most of biebers appeal isn't music. Try getting millions of teenage girls to fawn over psy.

Which makes me wonder why he (or someone like him) isn't doing exactly that with one of the boy or girl groups. I know 2NE1's tour wasn't huge, but they got around enough where someone could have picked them up for exactly that reason, or someone like Big Bang or SuJu.

Because they're Korean. It's partially the language and partially that boy groups exude a very feminine look. Friends who have been exposed to kpop have said this, hell my mom saw my sister's Exo-k and shinee posters and said they look feminine as well.

They'd be better off just forming a new, American boy group on their own, but as you see from top40 charts pop groups aren't all that popular anyway, theres no point. Why try to make a niche thing big when it's far more profitable to do what they had been doing.
Vorgrim
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (North)1601 Posts
September 11 2012 19:16 GMT
#75771
Because the only thing that sets kpop apart from the masses of music in the west is that it is in Korean. Without korean lyrics it's just aping western music with pretty faces and synchronised dancing, but slightly behind the curve on western trends.

There simply isn't anything marketable about Kpop without it being Korean. If it was the visuals there would have been a lot more asian-american popstars. How many have their been? None that I can recall.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 11 2012 19:23 GMT
#75772
I think Vogrim hit the nail on the head. Though, I think it also has to do with cultural differences as well, Asians are also much more socially conservative, so slutty outfits are usually far more a "no-no", also include song topics are also a lot more conservative as well. But that's part of the appeal to me though. I just don't see kpop spreading into western world anytime soon. Though we could see a shift in music industry to more of the Korean approach, where the company markets out idols, rather than artists.
liftlift > tsm
karpo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1998 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-11 19:29:10
September 11 2012 19:27 GMT
#75773
On September 12 2012 04:23 wei2coolman wrote:
I think Vogrim hit the nail on the head. Though, I think it also has to do with cultural differences as well, Asians are also much more socially conservative, so slutty outfits are usually far more a "no-no", also include song topics are also a lot more conservative as well. But that's part of the appeal to me though. I just don't see kpop spreading into western world anytime soon. Though we could see a shift in music industry to more of the Korean approach, where the company markets out idols, rather than artists.


Kpop outfits are conservative? Korea seems very split on this as Rainbow didn't get to show bellies in A yet there's underage girls strutting their ass in shorts/skirts on TV. Guys 30+ oogling 17-19 year olds on variety shows... (yeah i know it's all for fun but still weird)
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-11 19:40:35
September 11 2012 19:30 GMT
#75774
On September 12 2012 04:27 karpo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 04:23 wei2coolman wrote:
I think Vogrim hit the nail on the head. Though, I think it also has to do with cultural differences as well, Asians are also much more socially conservative, so slutty outfits are usually far more a "no-no", also include song topics are also a lot more conservative as well. But that's part of the appeal to me though. I just don't see kpop spreading into western world anytime soon. Though we could see a shift in music industry to more of the Korean approach, where the company markets out idols, rather than artists.


Kpop outfits are conservative? Korea seems very split on this as Rainbow didn't get to show bellies in A yet there's underage girls strutting their ass in shorts/skirts

Far more conservative in comparison to western standards imo
also the way they're represented in public light plays into it, quite a bit.
liftlift > tsm
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
September 11 2012 19:30 GMT
#75775
On September 12 2012 04:16 Vorgrim wrote:
Because the only thing that sets kpop apart from the masses of music in the west is that it is in Korean. Without korean lyrics it's just aping western music with pretty faces and synchronised dancing, but slightly behind the curve on western trends.

There simply isn't anything marketable about Kpop without it being Korean. If it was the visuals there would have been a lot more asian-american popstars. How many have their been? None that I can recall.


Well there was that group.. Rocketer something.. Maybe it was a one hit wonder aswell dunno didn't really pay attention heh.

Sad to say but even rankings > Psy spreading kpop talk
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NEOtheONE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2233 Posts
September 11 2012 19:38 GMT
#75776
Well, regardless Gangnam style is blowing up even made it to 17 out iTunes top 200 most popular songs. The video got another 11 million views today alone.
Abstracts, the too long didn't read of the educated world.
TuElite
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2123 Posts
September 11 2012 19:38 GMT
#75777
[image loading]

KARA had their chat session with the netizens on me2day. The whole thing is being translated, if anything interesting comes out of it, I'll post it.
Always Smile - Jung Nicole - Follow Nicole on Twitter @_911007 and me @TuElite
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 11 2012 19:42 GMT
#75778
On September 12 2012 04:30 DwD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 04:16 Vorgrim wrote:
Because the only thing that sets kpop apart from the masses of music in the west is that it is in Korean. Without korean lyrics it's just aping western music with pretty faces and synchronised dancing, but slightly behind the curve on western trends.

There simply isn't anything marketable about Kpop without it being Korean. If it was the visuals there would have been a lot more asian-american popstars. How many have their been? None that I can recall.


Well there was that group.. Rocketer something.. Maybe it was a one hit wonder aswell dunno didn't really pay attention heh.

Sad to say but even rankings > Psy spreading kpop talk

Since you mentioned it...

Linzy > Jei > Cheska > Yezi > CaoLu = Hyemi

Their profile descriptions are pretty funny. Jei is "Boyish face leader", Cheska is "Owner of the same 4 dimensional personality as IU". I also was not aware that Yezi was the Maknae of that group. '94, jeez.

I cannot count how many times I've listened to/watched Vista. What is it about that song?
It's your boy Guzma!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 11 2012 19:46 GMT
#75779
I'm surprised you ranked cheska so highly, she didn't look that great with that frizzy hair in Vista, maybe I'm missing out on some great pics of her?
liftlift > tsm
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
September 11 2012 19:48 GMT
#75780
On September 12 2012 04:42 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 04:30 DwD wrote:
On September 12 2012 04:16 Vorgrim wrote:
Because the only thing that sets kpop apart from the masses of music in the west is that it is in Korean. Without korean lyrics it's just aping western music with pretty faces and synchronised dancing, but slightly behind the curve on western trends.

There simply isn't anything marketable about Kpop without it being Korean. If it was the visuals there would have been a lot more asian-american popstars. How many have their been? None that I can recall.


Well there was that group.. Rocketer something.. Maybe it was a one hit wonder aswell dunno didn't really pay attention heh.

Sad to say but even rankings > Psy spreading kpop talk

Since you mentioned it...

Linzy > Jei > Cheska > Yezi > CaoLu = Hyemi

Their profile descriptions are pretty funny. Jei is "Boyish face leader", Cheska is "Owner of the same 4 dimensional personality as IU". I also was not aware that Yezi was the Maknae of that group. '94, jeez.

I cannot count how many times I've listened to/watched Vista. What is it about that song?


You tell me because I can't see/hear it. I really don't understand why it's being hyped.
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