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unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 09:11:23
December 31 2011 09:10 GMT
#43301
On December 31 2011 18:09 darkcloud8282 wrote:
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On December 31 2011 18:07 unichan wrote:
who are top 5?
snsd, wg, kara, 2ne1, and wut

by top i mean biggest

well, theres also miss A, fx, t-ara?..

exactly man none of those as big as the 4 i named imo

oh maybe apta school?
:)
TuElite
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2123 Posts
December 31 2011 09:11 GMT
#43302
Edited my post with an AWESOME pic I just got from Tumblr, you don't wanna miss that, just sayin'
Always Smile - Jung Nicole - Follow Nicole on Twitter @_911007 and me @TuElite
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
December 31 2011 09:12 GMT
#43303
On December 31 2011 18:07 darkcloud8282 wrote:
Well, the problem is if you answer any other number it'll just lead to another shit question like "who do you think is above you?"

Oh and I saw some more NSFW photos from red carpet:
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Even though I like what I see, isn't it pretty damn obvious if your dress is too short? I mean, they must've looked in a mirror while preparing for this.

Or maybe she was like "fuck it, no pants today".
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
December 31 2011 09:15 GMT
#43304
On December 31 2011 18:07 unichan wrote:
who are top 5?
snsd, wg, kara, 2ne1, and wut

by top i mean biggest

I was referring to my top 5 favorite, but if you're talking about popularity Kara is probably up there.
SNSD, WG, 2ne1, KARA, top 5 is probably tied between a whole bunch of people I think- AS, F(x), Miss A, T-ara, etc. could all fit there.

For most popular I mean.
Ym1r
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1164 Posts
December 31 2011 09:15 GMT
#43305
I'm liking them photos, somebody go hunt some more!
im ji geum - ellin - eunji - spica - a pink - naeun - sojinyura - HAERYUNG<3 - Red Velvet
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 09:19:51
December 31 2011 09:16 GMT
#43306
On December 31 2011 18:15 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 18:07 unichan wrote:
who are top 5?
snsd, wg, kara, 2ne1, and wut

by top i mean biggest

I was referring to my top 5 favorite, but if you're talking about popularity Kara is probably up there.
SNSD, WG, 2ne1, KARA, top 5 is probably tied between a whole bunch of people I think- AS, F(x), Miss A, T-ara, etc. could all fit there.

For most popular I mean.

ye i know but i was talkin more about the top 5 like they refer to in the interview
i want to say t-ara but i am afraid i am blinded by my love for them and my hate for f(x)
(i never considered f(x) at all)

qris got some antennae
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:)
darkcloud8282
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada776 Posts
December 31 2011 09:20 GMT
#43307
IMO, the top 3 groups in terms of popularity now are SNSD, WG, 2NE1 and everyone else is about the same below that.. maybe 2 more tiers of popularity like t-ara, kara and miss A in the next level and everyone else below that.
Radioman
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada904 Posts
December 31 2011 09:23 GMT
#43308
antennae guaranteed to add 1"
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 09:26:30
December 31 2011 09:24 GMT
#43309
Qri got a lot worse lately for some reason...ever since like halfway through Roly Poly she hasn't been looking as good. May just be me or something idk.

I think it's probably between T-ara and f(x), just judging by how well Roly Poly did. Cry Cry hasn't done nearly as well though, and F(x) has done better on a more consistent basis, just because there are large groups of fans out there who love SM as a company and not just individual groups, which makes no sense to me but w/e. All of their songs have done incredibly well and every member has a pretty loyal following which even groups like WG and Kara don't have. Miss A has done well but not nearly as well as the other two, and AS as far as I remember hasn't had a really huge hit song in awhile.

edit- @darkcloud you are vastly underestimating how popular KARA is. I think that they don't get as much play here anymore (other than Tuelite and nicole) cause they're doing shit in Japan, but they're still one of the largest fanbases out there. I would almost definitely say they're bigger than 2ne1 in Korea/Japan (2ne1 has a huge western fanbase for whatever reason).

also completely forgot about HyunA...not 4minute cause I think Hyuna as a solo star is much bigger now, especially after bubble pop. Still doesn't break top 5 but if you're going to mention Miss A, AS, etc. she definitely hangs with those groups in terms of popularity.
TuElite
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2123 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 09:30:56
December 31 2011 09:28 GMT
#43310
On December 31 2011 18:24 DystopiaX wrote:
I think that they don't get as much play here anymore (other than Tuelite and nicole) cause they're doing shit in Japan, but they're still one of the largest fanbases out there.


Talking about shit in Japan... I'm definitely hyped to see them on the Japanese version of dancing with the stars! I think they're filming that today but I'm not sure. I'll definitely post it here once I get my hands on that.

Pic from the rehearsal that took place the day before SBS Gayo Dajeun (Crazy all the back and forth they do when you think about it..)
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darkcloud8282
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada776 Posts
December 31 2011 09:29 GMT
#43311
On December 31 2011 18:24 DystopiaX wrote:
edit- @darkcloud you are vastly underestimating how popular KARA is. I think that they don't get as much play here anymore (other than Tuelite and nicole) cause they're doing shit in Japan, but they're still one of the largest fanbases out there. I would almost definitely say they're bigger than 2ne1 in Korea/Japan (2ne1 has a huge western fanbase for whatever reason).

also completely forgot about HyunA...not 4minute cause I think Hyuna as a solo star is much bigger now, especially after bubble pop. Still doesn't break top 5 but if you're going to mention Miss A, AS, etc. she definitely hangs with those groups in terms of popularity.

Yeah, I haven't really seen much of KARA; I probably got into kpop right around the time they left for Japan to promote.. But from what I saw in their promotion for STEP it wasn't extremely popular..
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 09:34:01
December 31 2011 09:30 GMT
#43312
I blame the song more than I blame the group but it did fairly well, and outside of that song their shit is still popular. Compared to the other groups they've mostly stuck to Japan but looking at different internet communities and based off news and successes they're definitely still top 3.

edit- it's also interesting cause I think that with CCM focusing so much on individual shit I'd say that Eunjung and maybe Jiyeon for sure are more popular as individuals than pretty much everyone in WG. Jiyeon for sure would have been but she's never been as popular as she was pre-sextape. She's regained some of that popularity but I'm not too sure anymore. WG is big but I think a by-product of spending almost all their time in the states is that the lack of non-musical appearances in Korea really hurt them, especially after Sunmi left and Hyelim has basically done nothing, whereas all the groups that stayed behind are focusing more and more on individual/unit promotions, acting, etc. that while groups are less popular there are people in each group that are extremely popular- I mentioned Hyuna before as a good example of this.
TuElite
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2123 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 09:39:50
December 31 2011 09:32 GMT
#43313
You crazy.

Step, Rider and 따라와 from the STEP album are all definitely in their top 10 best songs. In my opinion Step is their all time best. The energy and the passion when they perform it on stage is unmatched by any other song. Especially in their first few live performances, at the beginning of their comeback, shit was ill. The quality of it as a song is also munch better, the music and the lyrics are great (for a KPop up-tempo single that is).

On December 31 2011 18:33 unichan wrote:
what!1!11 mr the best, hands down yo, swingin butts


Yeah ok you got a point, in KPop the choreography is pretty munch part of the song... Butt dance was good but I don't know, i kind of wish they were known for more than just that. Maybe I've watched too munch performances of Mr. over the years but I think that Step's choreo is superior even tho it doesn't have any ''catchy'' or trademark part such as the butt dance. The energy of it gets me hyped up, Mr. just can't deliver that anymore.
Always Smile - Jung Nicole - Follow Nicole on Twitter @_911007 and me @TuElite
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 09:34:00
December 31 2011 09:33 GMT
#43314
i didn't get into kpop til this yr but i still know kara is a big boi

going by plays on last.fm (has nothing to do with korea and has nothing to do with anything i know but w/e)
1) SNSD
2) 2NE1
3) 4minute
4) WG
5) Kara
6) T-ara
7) AS
8) miss A

mostly posted this cuz 4minute hella high

edit: what!1!11 mr the best, hands down yo, swingin butts
:)
darkcloud8282
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada776 Posts
December 31 2011 09:33 GMT
#43315
Well that's the thing, they haven't gotten to the point where they can throw out anything and have it well received cause their fan base is that big :p

Anyhow, I think the first song I heard from them was Jumping, but I did look up MR. after seeing Goo Hara in Invincible Youth when I watched that..
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 09:38:05
December 31 2011 09:37 GMT
#43316
On December 31 2011 18:33 darkcloud8282 wrote:
Well that's the thing, they haven't gotten to the point where they can throw out anything and have it well received cause their fan base is that big :p

Anyhow, I think the first song I heard from them was Jumping, but I did look up MR. after seeing Goo Hara in Invincible Youth when I watched that..

No they have...and even top 5 and below material can do that- look at Yayaya, pretty much every 4minute song ever (Hyuna carry, HuH was ok though), every f(x) song ever (dat SM marketing machine) etc.

And I don't know what you're talking about Step being not well received. I mean it's no mister but it did hit number 1 on the charts when it came out and did win music show awards. I do think sales is more telling though cause the process for choosing awards on those shows is half sales and half crazy fangirl voting.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
December 31 2011 09:38 GMT
#43317
As far as the actual song goes: Step is better than Mr, although the infamous dance of the latter takes the... visual award...
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
December 31 2011 09:39 GMT
#43318
I didn't like Step at all, so I'd put Mister before them, but in terms of musical style I've never liked Kara all that much. I admire them for being consistent when most groups- SNSD (cute/ITNW and Gee to Hoot, WG (be my baby vs nobody, and even before those were a departure from tell me) haven't though, but that bubble-gum like electronic sound just isn't for me.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17294 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 09:44:35
December 31 2011 09:42 GMT
#43319
On December 31 2011 18:33 unichan wrote:
mostly posted this cuz 4minute hella high

4Minute is my second most played artist.

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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
December 31 2011 09:44 GMT
#43320
On December 31 2011 18:42 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 18:33 unichan wrote:
mostly posted this cuz 4minute hella high

4Minute is my second most played artist.

Not trying to sound like a hater but I'm genuinely curious as to what you're listening to so much. I liked Huh and Mirror Mirror to some extent but that's pretty much it...that ad song they did freestyle was IMO better than anything they put out before which is insane seeing as it's an ad for an MMO.
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