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Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
February 21 2011 16:12 GMT
#14901
On February 22 2011 00:15 Raelgar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2011 23:19 bearbuddy wrote:
Speaking of sequels, Natsume got the go ahead for a third season: Source. The only shoujo show that I watch, so I'm pretty happy that they are churning out a third season.



when did Natsume become a shoujo show? Or did I just miss the shoujo in the show? But I am happy as well the series is pretty good


Don't think it's much of a shoujo myself either but by the categorization it's slightly geared toward females I guess. This is actually amazing news to me. Natsume is probably one of the most dear anime I've ever watched. It's so relaxing and tender in an honest way.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
Raelgar
Profile Joined February 2011
104 Posts
February 21 2011 16:17 GMT
#14902
On February 22 2011 01:12 Shauni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 00:15 Raelgar wrote:
On February 21 2011 23:19 bearbuddy wrote:
Speaking of sequels, Natsume got the go ahead for a third season: Source. The only shoujo show that I watch, so I'm pretty happy that they are churning out a third season.



when did Natsume become a shoujo show? Or did I just miss the shoujo in the show? But I am happy as well the series is pretty good


Don't think it's much of a shoujo myself either but by the categorization it's slightly geared toward females I guess. This is actually amazing news to me. Natsume is probably one of the most dear anime I've ever watched. It's so relaxing and tender in an honest way.


when you like that kind of anime maybe you should give Tamayura a try. It has a similar feel to it.
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
February 21 2011 16:26 GMT
#14903
On February 22 2011 01:17 Raelgar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 01:12 Shauni wrote:
On February 22 2011 00:15 Raelgar wrote:
On February 21 2011 23:19 bearbuddy wrote:
Speaking of sequels, Natsume got the go ahead for a third season: Source. The only shoujo show that I watch, so I'm pretty happy that they are churning out a third season.



when did Natsume become a shoujo show? Or did I just miss the shoujo in the show? But I am happy as well the series is pretty good


Don't think it's much of a shoujo myself either but by the categorization it's slightly geared toward females I guess. This is actually amazing news to me. Natsume is probably one of the most dear anime I've ever watched. It's so relaxing and tender in an honest way.


when you like that kind of anime maybe you should give Tamayura a try. It has a similar feel to it.


Maybe, but for example I dislike shows like Aria. It's a bit condescending making anime like that to me. Cute girls walking around and doing cute things providing the main entertainment. Not saying Tamayura is like that but it was the same director so I associated it with Aria...
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Raelgar
Profile Joined February 2011
104 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-21 16:34:57
February 21 2011 16:29 GMT
#14904
well you could say it's kinda similar, but I still think you should at least give it a try
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
February 21 2011 17:21 GMT
#14905
On February 21 2011 19:39 Latham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2011 19:03 Spazer wrote:
On February 21 2011 18:58 Raelgar wrote:
what is that picture?
DVD sales?

Walking speed in the OP/ED animations, I believe.

Edit: UBW was noting but action scenes. The story was gutted and left for the vultures.


LoL UBW at least had Ilya+Berserker background story and Caster+Teacher meeting story. It's more than Fate ever had and more than Heaven's Feel will have.
Sure UBW is plagued by Shirou and Archer, but it's the story that is most centered on Servants themselves.

Hes talking about the UBW Movie, that had really good action scenes, but held ctrl through everything else.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
VManOfMana
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States764 Posts
February 21 2011 17:43 GMT
#14906
On February 22 2011 00:15 Raelgar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2011 23:19 bearbuddy wrote:
Speaking of sequels, Natsume got the go ahead for a third season: Source. The only shoujo show that I watch, so I'm pretty happy that they are churning out a third season.



when did Natsume become a shoujo show? Or did I just miss the shoujo in the show? But I am happy as well the series is pretty good


Natsume is serialized in LaLa, so it is a shoujo.

A rule of thumb is that if an anime is a manga adaptation, look at the magazine where the manga is serialized.


On February 22 2011 01:26 Shauni wrote:
Maybe, but for example I dislike shows like Aria. It's a bit condescending making anime like that to me. Cute girls walking around and doing cute things providing the main entertainment. Not saying Tamayura is like that but it was the same director so I associated it with Aria...


Well, in a way, the point of such titles is that nothing much is expected to happen. I enjoy them as a change of pace from more action-oriented titles, like a dessert if you want to make an analogy. There is even a term "Iyashi Kei" for this style of anime/manga.
Woo Jung Ho, FIGHTING! | "With the death of BW comes the death of an idea. And that idea, held by many BW fans, was that a computer game could actually outlive the Next New Game cycle. And to some extent it did." -Falling
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
February 21 2011 17:53 GMT
#14907
It's serialized in a shoujo magazine but I don't know that I'd call it shoujo.
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Raelgar
Profile Joined February 2011
104 Posts
February 21 2011 18:16 GMT
#14908
On February 22 2011 02:43 VManOfMana wrote:

Natsume is serialized in LaLa, so it is a shoujo.

A rule of thumb is that if an anime is a manga adaptation, look at the magazine where the manga is serialized.


you didnt watch natsume right?
Naphal
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2099 Posts
February 21 2011 18:37 GMT
#14909
the fact that it was made with girls in mind, does not exclude male audience, in shonen jump you do not have 100% combatadventure stories either, as long as you do not read twilight, you remain a man, even if you do like some shojou series (<3 kaichou wa maid-sama)

tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
February 21 2011 18:49 GMT
#14910
I've watched quite a few that would be considered shojou. A good story is a good story in my my mind.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-21 19:10:21
February 21 2011 19:06 GMT
#14911
On February 21 2011 20:08 Shinshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2011 18:58 Raelgar wrote:
what is that picture?
DVD sales?

DVD / Blu Ray sales

Specifically vol 1 of the DVDs, I believe vol 4 of Bakemonogatari outsold vol 1.
On February 21 2011 18:33 Raelgar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2011 18:10 Spazer wrote:
Started reading Shinigami-sama ni Saigo no Onegai wo. So far it's been very good.

The start of the first chapter kinda sets the stage - basically there's this boy who's been convicted for murdering his entire family and has been sentenced to death. Then his murdered sister shows up and it turns out that she's a shinigami. Basically, she wants to ensure that he goes to hell. Mind you, all of this is played off in a rather lighthearted way. Anyway, they go off to do some shinigami thing, and then shit gets real.
+ Show Spoiler [Minor spoilers] +
Everybody in this story is fucking nuts. Everybody. It's glorious.


It's really a nice manga but it seems like the translation takes ages. I really liekd the scene in chapter 4 where the brother threatens those to girls and his eyes open ^^

That was a really good manga, I couldn't find any more of it atm though Think all I have is the vol 1 equivalent.
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
February 21 2011 19:09 GMT
#14912
On February 21 2011 17:16 Spazer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2011 14:15 tonight wrote:
I really like these slice of life stories like Bakuman. I'm definitely going to have to read the manga after season one finishes up.

+ Show Spoiler +
Though the crap about the two of them not willing to meet up with one another let alone talk to the other (at least right now) until both of their dreams come true irks me a bit.

Yeah, the romance sideplot is seriously annoying. I wish the story would just ignore the two of them and focus on the mangaka stuff instead. Sometimes I wonder if the romance was added in an ironic bid to increase their viewership in Jump, lol.


Yeah, but without the little love story the show doesn't really work. Considering the reason he's working so hard is for her, but still think it's dumb since they won't even talk to each other and will hardly even look at one another.

if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
marxgarza
Profile Joined January 2011
United States373 Posts
February 21 2011 19:33 GMT
#14913
On February 22 2011 03:37 Naphal wrote:
the fact that it was made with girls in mind, does not exclude male audience, in shonen jump you do not have 100% combatadventure stories either, as long as you do not read twilight, you remain a man, even if you do like some shojou series (<3 kaichou wa maid-sama)



I love kaichou wa maid sama. Misaki is great and Usui is a bro. The scans have been coming out slow lately.
Silence is golden, duct tape is silver
VManOfMana
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States764 Posts
February 21 2011 19:35 GMT
#14914
On February 22 2011 03:16 Raelgar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 02:43 VManOfMana wrote:

Natsume is serialized in LaLa, so it is a shoujo.

A rule of thumb is that if an anime is a manga adaptation, look at the magazine where the manga is serialized.


you didnt watch natsume right?


No I haven't.

But shoujo/shonen refer to their target audience, not their content. A shoujo title is not necessarily a cute or high school romantic story. A shounen title is not necessarily an action packed hero story or harem romance. If a manga is serialized in a girl magazine, then the target audience is girls, therefore shoujo. It does not mean that boys can't enjoy it as well =)

Look at CLAMP. Cardcaptor Sakura (Nakayoshi) is a shoujo, but Tsubasa Chronicles (Weekly Shounen Magazine) is a shounen, yet they have the same lead characters.
Woo Jung Ho, FIGHTING! | "With the death of BW comes the death of an idea. And that idea, held by many BW fans, was that a computer game could actually outlive the Next New Game cycle. And to some extent it did." -Falling
aers *
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1210 Posts
February 21 2011 20:31 GMT
#14915
The anime outlook sure has taken a turn for the better lately...

That DVD sales image is so misleading because Working sales plummeted after Vol. 1; DRRR dropped too but not as much.

:V
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-21 20:37:00
February 21 2011 20:34 GMT
#14916
On February 21 2011 19:39 Latham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2011 19:03 Spazer wrote:
On February 21 2011 18:58 Raelgar wrote:
what is that picture?
DVD sales?

Walking speed in the OP/ED animations, I believe.

Edit: UBW was noting but action scenes. The story was gutted and left for the vultures.


LoL UBW at least had Ilya+Berserker background story and Caster+Teacher meeting story. It's more than Fate ever had and more than Heaven's Feel will have.
Sure UBW is plagued by Shirou and Archer, but it's the story that is most centered on Servants themselves.

Yeah, like Sentenal said, I was talking about the abomination of a movie. Let's see...
+ Show Spoiler [UBW] +
Ilya+Beserker? Didn't happen in the movie.
Hell, Beserker even fell down when he died instead of dying standing like a badass. And there was no breaking of the chains of heaven or momentary re-materialization from sheer willpower. That scene was screwed over completely, and I was pissed.

Caster+Teacher meeting story? Didn't happen in the movie.

Archer's motivations? Explained horribly.

And then we got a CG dolphin instead of a implied h-scene because DEEN is retarded.


On February 22 2011 04:09 tonight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2011 17:16 Spazer wrote:
On February 21 2011 14:15 tonight wrote:
I really like these slice of life stories like Bakuman. I'm definitely going to have to read the manga after season one finishes up.

+ Show Spoiler +
Though the crap about the two of them not willing to meet up with one another let alone talk to the other (at least right now) until both of their dreams come true irks me a bit.

Yeah, the romance sideplot is seriously annoying. I wish the story would just ignore the two of them and focus on the mangaka stuff instead. Sometimes I wonder if the romance was added in an ironic bid to increase their viewership in Jump, lol.


Yeah, but without the little love story the show doesn't really work. Considering the reason he's working so hard is for her, but still think it's dumb since they won't even talk to each other and will hardly even look at one another.

Why can't the reason he's working toward becoming a mangaka be because he wants to be a mangaka? It'd make more sense than this "I don't even know you but I'll marry you if you're successful" bullshit. At least the thing with Miyoshi is more believable.

On February 22 2011 04:06 Ecael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2011 18:33 Raelgar wrote:
On February 21 2011 18:10 Spazer wrote:
Started reading Shinigami-sama ni Saigo no Onegai wo. So far it's been very good.

The start of the first chapter kinda sets the stage - basically there's this boy who's been convicted for murdering his entire family and has been sentenced to death. Then his murdered sister shows up and it turns out that she's a shinigami. Basically, she wants to ensure that he goes to hell. Mind you, all of this is played off in a rather lighthearted way. Anyway, they go off to do some shinigami thing, and then shit gets real.
+ Show Spoiler [Minor spoilers] +
Everybody in this story is fucking nuts. Everybody. It's glorious.


It's really a nice manga but it seems like the translation takes ages. I really liekd the scene in chapter 4 where the brother threatens those to girls and his eyes open ^^

That was a really good manga, I couldn't find any more of it atm though Think all I have is the vol 1 equivalent.

Simple scans released chapter 5 yesterday which is the start of volume 2, so if there's no raws, that's always an option.

On February 22 2011 04:33 marxgarza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 03:37 Naphal wrote:
the fact that it was made with girls in mind, does not exclude male audience, in shonen jump you do not have 100% combatadventure stories either, as long as you do not read twilight, you remain a man, even if you do like some shojou series (<3 kaichou wa maid-sama)



I love kaichou wa maid sama. Misaki is great and Usui is a bro. The scans have been coming out slow lately.

I used to like it, but then they gave us like 10 straight chapters of stupid stalker butler guy. -_- The guideline that shoujo manga typically start sucking around chapter 60 due to the maintaining of the status quo holds very true, unfortunately. At least something of note happened in the most recent chapter.
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Raelgar
Profile Joined February 2011
104 Posts
February 21 2011 20:40 GMT
#14917
On February 22 2011 05:34 Spazer wrote:


Why can't the reason he's working toward becoming a mangaka be because he wants to be a mangaka? It'd make more sense than this "I don't even know you but I'll marry you if you're successful" bullshit. At least the thing with Miyoshi is more believable.


I think you really shouldnt focus on that too much. the main part of the manga is and will be the creation of mangas, that little love thing is just to get a cute girl in the story and to get the story going.

I am mean how does that sound " i want to be a mangaka because I want to" sounds boring doesnt it? Reality is not always something you should stick 100% when you want to write a story.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
February 21 2011 20:49 GMT
#14918
Yeah, I know it's not the focus of the plot, but it just bothers me whenever the focus shifts to her. Why do his motivations need to be interesting instead of boring? Like you said, that's not the focus of the plot - the mangaka stuff is the main thing here. That's all I'm interested in for this manga. Why was her inclusion necessary?

It's not even that I'm opposed to romance sideplots. Miyoshi, for instance, is fine. It's just that the thing with Azuki is just so stupid that it ruins my suspension of disbelief.

Plus it feels like it's a set up for some stupid drama further down the line.
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Raelgar
Profile Joined February 2011
104 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-21 21:11:02
February 21 2011 21:10 GMT
#14919
it probably is a setup for later yes. I suppose as soon as the stuff with new "enemies" gets old we will see some drama. But as long as that is done well I dont particulary mind it.
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9568 Posts
February 21 2011 21:48 GMT
#14920
Kagetsu Tohya (Tsukihime continuation, if you will, with additional small stories) is hilarious. Half the time I find myself laughing uncontrollably. The other half the time, I find myself interested in the stories it provides, themselves.
Akiha is just so so good D: I missed her soooooooooooooo much.
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