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On February 04 2011 12:47 Ferrose wrote:+ Show Spoiler [Madoka speculation] +People are saying that maybe Homura is a time traveler or something. Maybe Homura was a regular person, and Madoka became a puella magi. And they had a little yuri thing going on, and when Madoka died, Homura made a contract and wished to go back in time to save Madoka and stop her from making a contract.
They are even saying that Homura is Madoka herself gone back in time lolol + Show Spoiler + That reminds me of Kannazuki no Miko, with the yuri thing That could explain why homura is the way she is It makes sense to me, but only time will tell :D cant wait
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On February 04 2011 12:48 Zergneedsfood wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2011 12:47 TimeOut wrote:On February 04 2011 12:44 Zergneedsfood wrote:On February 04 2011 12:28 TimeOut wrote:On February 04 2011 12:24 Zergneedsfood wrote:On February 04 2011 12:08 tonight wrote:On February 04 2011 12:06 Zergneedsfood wrote:On February 04 2011 11:55 tonight wrote:You can consider Clannad a harem in which case that is the good one. IS + Show Spoiler +I mean, my god... you KNOW that German chick is going to be all, "I hate you, but... he's kind... and cute ~ oh my ~ why is my face red ?~" Clannad was a good harem. It was one of those Harems that weren't as obvious (Kotomi was the most clueless girl in the whole show for a girl that was super smart as hell and Tomoya played off her love pretty damn well. Also....IS? Uh........I have a feeling I should know it...but I don't.  Infinite Stratos. It's not... the worst show. It was just highly disapointing come the 2nd or 3rd episode when you find out it's going to be another cliche harem. >.> Why does it sound like this Winter Season doesn't have that many impressive Animes? I've only watched Yumekui....and then read a couple of mangas..... :/ Waiting so desperately for Nichijou though. <3 You haven't seen Madoka? Why are you watching Merry or anything this season while you haven't seen Madoka yet? Go and watch Madoka.  (Wandering Son is good if you want something that is serious and thought provoking, but the manga is still regarded as better. IS is so bad it is hilarious harem-comedy with mecha. Gosick is a failed Conan adaptation after the first world war with a loli as main character. Fractale is ...strange but intriguing.) I was turned off a bit by the genre. >.> But I'll give that a try too. It is not a girly mahou shoujo at all. You have girls and magic and that's it. So far it is clearly the best show this season in most categories (at least for me). Art, story progression, music, amount of possible speculation. But please give it an 3-episode test. Don't use gg subs, get the ones from Nutbladder or yesy. Yeah dude, for sure. This shit looks badass. Also. Where are the ones from Nutbladder/yesy? I'm bad at finding this stuff so I just stick with websites like animecrazy if I can't find them.
http://www2.tokyotosho.info/search.php?terms=madoka&type=1
If you don't want speed, the yesy translations are regarded as the best and most accurate. Otherwise go with Nutbladder. (If you can't download torrents, there might be DDL links.)
I don't know of any good streaming sites for Madoka, but it should be watched in HD regardless.
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On February 04 2011 12:48 Zergneedsfood wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2011 12:47 TimeOut wrote:On February 04 2011 12:44 Zergneedsfood wrote:On February 04 2011 12:28 TimeOut wrote:On February 04 2011 12:24 Zergneedsfood wrote:On February 04 2011 12:08 tonight wrote:On February 04 2011 12:06 Zergneedsfood wrote:On February 04 2011 11:55 tonight wrote:You can consider Clannad a harem in which case that is the good one. IS + Show Spoiler +I mean, my god... you KNOW that German chick is going to be all, "I hate you, but... he's kind... and cute ~ oh my ~ why is my face red ?~" Clannad was a good harem. It was one of those Harems that weren't as obvious (Kotomi was the most clueless girl in the whole show for a girl that was super smart as hell and Tomoya played off her love pretty damn well. Also....IS? Uh........I have a feeling I should know it...but I don't.  Infinite Stratos. It's not... the worst show. It was just highly disapointing come the 2nd or 3rd episode when you find out it's going to be another cliche harem. >.> Why does it sound like this Winter Season doesn't have that many impressive Animes? I've only watched Yumekui....and then read a couple of mangas..... :/ Waiting so desperately for Nichijou though. <3 You haven't seen Madoka? Why are you watching Merry or anything this season while you haven't seen Madoka yet? Go and watch Madoka.  (Wandering Son is good if you want something that is serious and thought provoking, but the manga is still regarded as better. IS is so bad it is hilarious harem-comedy with mecha. Gosick is a failed Conan adaptation after the first world war with a loli as main character. Fractale is ...strange but intriguing.) I was turned off a bit by the genre. >.> But I'll give that a try too. It is not a girly mahou shoujo at all. You have girls and magic and that's it. So far it is clearly the best show this season in most categories (at least for me). Art, story progression, music, amount of possible speculation. But please give it an 3-episode test. Don't use gg subs, get the ones from Nutbladder or yesy. Yeah dude, for sure. This shit looks badass. Also. Where are the ones from Nutbladder/yesy? I'm bad at finding this stuff so I just stick with websites like animecrazy if I can't find them.
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@ Gao Xi: + Show Spoiler +Maybe Homura wanted to go back in time and kill Kyubey before he made contact with Madoka. If that's the case, things obviously aren't going as planned D: And if there really was a future timeline like that, it could explain the bad blood between Homura and Mami. TimeOut had a really good point to add to this: Yes, I think that Homura's wish will involve time travel. Her ability seems to be related to time (stopping time most likely) as can be seen in her fight against Charlotte and in episode 5. Just thought: What if that dream sequence from the very beginning was a vision of the final battle? Madoka sees that Homura is about to die, and Kyubey is like "Make a contract to save her fufufu" and Madoka is like "RAWR YOU MANIPULATIVE DICK" and kills him or something.
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On February 04 2011 12:59 triangle wrote:+ Show Spoiler [ more madoka lolz] +Also, when do people think Madoka finally will make the contract? I'm guessing the end of next episode. As it is, her character is too boring.
+ Show Spoiler +Probably at the climax of the series. I wouldn't be surprised if she never became one TBH, especially if Homura's wish was to go back in time and prevent Madoka from making a contract.
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On February 04 2011 12:52 Ferrose wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2011 12:48 Zergneedsfood wrote:On February 04 2011 12:47 TimeOut wrote:On February 04 2011 12:44 Zergneedsfood wrote:On February 04 2011 12:28 TimeOut wrote:On February 04 2011 12:24 Zergneedsfood wrote:On February 04 2011 12:08 tonight wrote:On February 04 2011 12:06 Zergneedsfood wrote:On February 04 2011 11:55 tonight wrote:You can consider Clannad a harem in which case that is the good one. IS + Show Spoiler +I mean, my god... you KNOW that German chick is going to be all, "I hate you, but... he's kind... and cute ~ oh my ~ why is my face red ?~" Clannad was a good harem. It was one of those Harems that weren't as obvious (Kotomi was the most clueless girl in the whole show for a girl that was super smart as hell and Tomoya played off her love pretty damn well. Also....IS? Uh........I have a feeling I should know it...but I don't.  Infinite Stratos. It's not... the worst show. It was just highly disapointing come the 2nd or 3rd episode when you find out it's going to be another cliche harem. >.> Why does it sound like this Winter Season doesn't have that many impressive Animes? I've only watched Yumekui....and then read a couple of mangas..... :/ Waiting so desperately for Nichijou though. <3 You haven't seen Madoka? Why are you watching Merry or anything this season while you haven't seen Madoka yet? Go and watch Madoka.  (Wandering Son is good if you want something that is serious and thought provoking, but the manga is still regarded as better. IS is so bad it is hilarious harem-comedy with mecha. Gosick is a failed Conan adaptation after the first world war with a loli as main character. Fractale is ...strange but intriguing.) I was turned off a bit by the genre. >.> But I'll give that a try too. It is not a girly mahou shoujo at all. You have girls and magic and that's it. So far it is clearly the best show this season in most categories (at least for me). Art, story progression, music, amount of possible speculation. But please give it an 3-episode test. Don't use gg subs, get the ones from Nutbladder or yesy. Yeah dude, for sure. This shit looks badass. Also. Where are the ones from Nutbladder/yesy? I'm bad at finding this stuff so I just stick with websites like animecrazy if I can't find them. tokyotosho.info @ Gao Xi: + Show Spoiler +Maybe Homura wanted to go back in time and kill Kyubey before he made contact with Madoka. If that's the case, things obviously aren't going as planned D: And if there really was a future timeline like that, it could explain the bad blood between Homura and Mami. TimeOut had a really good point to add to this: Yes, I think that Homura's wish will involve time travel. Her ability seems to be related to time (stopping time most likely) as can be seen in her fight against Charlotte and in episode 5. Just thought: What if that dream sequence from the very beginning was a vision of the final battle? Madoka sees that Homura is about to die, and Kyubey is like "Make a contract to save her fufufu" and Madoka is like "RAWR YOU MANIPULATIVE DICK" and kills him or something. + Show Spoiler +sick observation, wow this is getting me more pumped for the next episode. I don't really got anything to add, cause i can't come up with anything at the moment If her power was really time travel, and Homura went back in time to save Madoka, Madoka would eventually have to turn mahou shoujo right? 'causing her to die resulting in an endless circle. But if she doesn't turn mahou shoujo then i think it might defeat the purpose of it. Unless they do like some flashback with an epic yuri/madoka death scene or something. But i think this just makes me feel better that i wasn't crazy thinking madoka is going to die one way or another
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On February 04 2011 13:06 Gao Xi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2011 12:52 Ferrose wrote:On February 04 2011 12:48 Zergneedsfood wrote:On February 04 2011 12:47 TimeOut wrote:On February 04 2011 12:44 Zergneedsfood wrote:On February 04 2011 12:28 TimeOut wrote:On February 04 2011 12:24 Zergneedsfood wrote:On February 04 2011 12:08 tonight wrote:On February 04 2011 12:06 Zergneedsfood wrote:On February 04 2011 11:55 tonight wrote:You can consider Clannad a harem in which case that is the good one. IS + Show Spoiler +I mean, my god... you KNOW that German chick is going to be all, "I hate you, but... he's kind... and cute ~ oh my ~ why is my face red ?~" Clannad was a good harem. It was one of those Harems that weren't as obvious (Kotomi was the most clueless girl in the whole show for a girl that was super smart as hell and Tomoya played off her love pretty damn well. Also....IS? Uh........I have a feeling I should know it...but I don't.  Infinite Stratos. It's not... the worst show. It was just highly disapointing come the 2nd or 3rd episode when you find out it's going to be another cliche harem. >.> Why does it sound like this Winter Season doesn't have that many impressive Animes? I've only watched Yumekui....and then read a couple of mangas..... :/ Waiting so desperately for Nichijou though. <3 You haven't seen Madoka? Why are you watching Merry or anything this season while you haven't seen Madoka yet? Go and watch Madoka.  (Wandering Son is good if you want something that is serious and thought provoking, but the manga is still regarded as better. IS is so bad it is hilarious harem-comedy with mecha. Gosick is a failed Conan adaptation after the first world war with a loli as main character. Fractale is ...strange but intriguing.) I was turned off a bit by the genre. >.> But I'll give that a try too. It is not a girly mahou shoujo at all. You have girls and magic and that's it. So far it is clearly the best show this season in most categories (at least for me). Art, story progression, music, amount of possible speculation. But please give it an 3-episode test. Don't use gg subs, get the ones from Nutbladder or yesy. Yeah dude, for sure. This shit looks badass. Also. Where are the ones from Nutbladder/yesy? I'm bad at finding this stuff so I just stick with websites like animecrazy if I can't find them. tokyotosho.info @ Gao Xi: + Show Spoiler +Maybe Homura wanted to go back in time and kill Kyubey before he made contact with Madoka. If that's the case, things obviously aren't going as planned D: And if there really was a future timeline like that, it could explain the bad blood between Homura and Mami. TimeOut had a really good point to add to this: Yes, I think that Homura's wish will involve time travel. Her ability seems to be related to time (stopping time most likely) as can be seen in her fight against Charlotte and in episode 5. Just thought: What if that dream sequence from the very beginning was a vision of the final battle? Madoka sees that Homura is about to die, and Kyubey is like "Make a contract to save her fufufu" and Madoka is like "RAWR YOU MANIPULATIVE DICK" and kills him or something. + Show Spoiler +sick observation, wow this is getting me more pumped for the next episode. I don't really got anything to add, cause i can't come up with anything at the moment If her power was really time travel, and Homura went back in time to save Madoka, Madoka would eventually have to turn mahou shoujo right? 'causing her to die resulting in an endless circle. But if she doesn't turn mahou shoujo then i think it might defeat the purpose of it. Unless they do like some flashback with an epic yuri/madoka death scene or something. But i think this just makes me feel better that i wasn't crazy thinking madoka is going to die one way or another
+ Show Spoiler +I'm gonna assume that Sayaka dies and they eventually kill/repel Kyouko for this.
The most likely endings, IMO, would be:
-SHAFT trolls us and Madoka never becomes a puella magi because Homura was able to stop Kyubey.
-Madoka makes her contract at the climax of the series, and her and Homura kill Kyubey, voiding all contracts and making everything go back to normal.
-Homura dies and Madoka is alone in the world as a puella magi.
-Madoka dies because Homura was unable to save her
-Both Madoka and Homura are killed by Kyubey or something
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On February 04 2011 13:00 Ferrose wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Probably at the climax of the series. I wouldn't be surprised if she never became one TBH, especially if Homura's wish was to go back in time and prevent Madoka from making a contract. I disagree.+ Show Spoiler +I agree that that would be a reasonable ending just from a story perspective.
The problem is, I can't think of what Madoka will be doing for the next 7 episodes. Sayaka is almost certainly going to die in a couple of episodes and then what? Homura is the only magical girl? I don't think Homura alone can power the show.
I'm guessing Madoka becomes a magical girl and then Shaft changes the OP or something. Otherwise her character isn't interesting enough over the course of the show.
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On February 04 2011 13:16 triangle wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2011 13:00 Ferrose wrote:On February 04 2011 12:59 triangle wrote:+ Show Spoiler [ more madoka lolz] +Also, when do people think Madoka finally will make the contract? I'm guessing the end of next episode. As it is, her character is too boring. + Show Spoiler +Probably at the climax of the series. I wouldn't be surprised if she never became one TBH, especially if Homura's wish was to go back in time and prevent Madoka from making a contract. I disagree. + Show Spoiler +I agree that that would be a reasonable ending just from a story perspective.
The problem is, I can't think of what Madoka will be doing for the next 7 episodes. Sayaka is almost certainly going to die in a couple of episodes and then what? Homura is the only magical girl? I don't think Homura alone can power the show.
I'm guessing Madoka becomes a magical girl and then Shaft changes the OP or something. Otherwise her character isn't interesting enough over the course of the show.
+ Show Spoiler +Maybe Sayaka could survive longer than we think. Maybe she beats Kyouko and lives on for a bit. Or maybe Kyouko defeats her and Homura fights her.
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On February 04 2011 13:16 triangle wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2011 13:00 Ferrose wrote:On February 04 2011 12:59 triangle wrote:+ Show Spoiler [ more madoka lolz] +Also, when do people think Madoka finally will make the contract? I'm guessing the end of next episode. As it is, her character is too boring. + Show Spoiler +Probably at the climax of the series. I wouldn't be surprised if she never became one TBH, especially if Homura's wish was to go back in time and prevent Madoka from making a contract. I disagree. + Show Spoiler +I agree that that would be a reasonable ending just from a story perspective.
The problem is, I can't think of what Madoka will be doing for the next 7 episodes. Sayaka is almost certainly going to die in a couple of episodes and then what? Homura is the only magical girl? I don't think Homura alone can power the show.
I'm guessing Madoka becomes a magical girl and then Shaft changes the OP or something. Otherwise her character isn't interesting enough over the course of the show. + Show Spoiler +continuing on from that, once Madoka becomes a mahou shoujo, she will probably die, because of her ideals, and Homura not being able to save her. That is the most likely ending in my eyes, could be obscured cause I want it to happen like that but...
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+ Show Spoiler [IS] +Next ep is obviously France's reveal. Shower scene incoming. France is currently my favorite character because: 1) Reverse traps are awesome 2) She's actually a good pilot 3) Not a tsundere + Show Spoiler [Future spoilers] +![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/IrfXI.jpg) Seriously, this part can't come soon enough. Supposedly this is the scene that marks the point where Ichika stops being a dumbass and actually does stuff with his harem. Germany initiates, by the way. + Show Spoiler [Rygart is a jerk] +![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/RpTAK.jpg) Scanlations where?  I picked up Sangokushi mainly because of how awesome I know Zhuge Liang will be, but it turns out that he doesn't even show up until volume 21. -_-
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On February 04 2011 13:16 triangle wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2011 13:00 Ferrose wrote:On February 04 2011 12:59 triangle wrote:+ Show Spoiler [ more madoka lolz] +Also, when do people think Madoka finally will make the contract? I'm guessing the end of next episode. As it is, her character is too boring. + Show Spoiler +Probably at the climax of the series. I wouldn't be surprised if she never became one TBH, especially if Homura's wish was to go back in time and prevent Madoka from making a contract. I disagree. + Show Spoiler +I agree that that would be a reasonable ending just from a story perspective.
The problem is, I can't think of what Madoka will be doing for the next 7 episodes. Sayaka is almost certainly going to die in a couple of episodes and then what? Homura is the only magical girl? I don't think Homura alone can power the show.
I'm guessing Madoka becomes a magical girl and then Shaft changes the OP or something. Otherwise her character isn't interesting enough over the course of the show.
+ Show Spoiler +We'll have 7 of 12 episodes remaining. The usual (going by Nanoha standards here) way would be that the big fight and climax takes up episodes 10 and 11 while episode 12 is reserved for a "and so the story ends" part.
Since we ended on a cliffhanger with episode 5, episode 6 will deal with that situation and any possible fallout from that. I don't think that any magical girl dies in episode 6. Madoka won't become one either
Episode 7 will give us another confrontation between Sayaka and Kyouko where one of the two characters die most likely (I'm going with Sayaka dies here). This is not discovered by Madoka until the end of this or the beginning of the next episode.
Episode 8 deals with the fallout from episode 7 and how Madoka copes with the situation that everyone dear to her has been lost, even though she didn't agree to the contract. Just as Homura warned her. More of a introspective if you so will. Maybe there will be some conflict between Kyouko and Homura but I doubt it will go far. Maybe the two are about to clash, mainly because of Kyouko's personality and the episode ends.
Episode 9, Madoka has made up her mind and confronts Kyouko and Homura about the whole situation, maybe after a sad scene with her parents and the now empty school (all the glass, suddenly very depressing). She'll also learn about the wish that Sayaka made and how it got reversed after she died. That leads her to the two magical girls and Kyuubey, where she makes her wish, probably in tears and something impulsive (like "I wish it would just all end").
Episode 10, the world ends because of her wish. Homura tries to stop it, but is destined to fail. Time travel ensures and we are back at the beginning scene of episode 1, this time extended. Through Homura's powers Madoka got saved somehow and can see what happened through her wish and how being a magical girl is not good.
Episode 11, Madoka saves Homura, they fight against the death of the world and all its evil (Kyuubey) and manage to defeat it in the end.
Episode 12: Sad but happy end, Homura and Madoka going to school together, remembering their old friends that they lost. But the world is safer now, and they are free from their contracts.
(That took a lot of time...)
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On February 04 2011 13:31 Spazer wrote:+ Show Spoiler [IS] +Next ep is obviously France's reveal. Shower scene incoming. France is currently my favorite character because: 1) Reverse traps are awesome 2) She's actually a good pilot 3) Not a tsundere + Show Spoiler [Future spoilers] +![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/IrfXI.jpg) Seriously, this part can't come soon enough. Supposedly this is the scene that marks the point where Ichika stops being a dumbass and actually does stuff with his harem. Germany initiates, by the way. + Show Spoiler [Rygart is a jerk] +![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/RpTAK.jpg) Scanlations where?  I picked up Sangokushi mainly because of how awesome I know Zhuge Liang will be, but it turns out that he doesn't even show up until volume 21. -_-
+ Show Spoiler [future shit in IS] +Apparently Germany vows to make Ichika her "bride."
I don't know that I was so popular:
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I want to use MAL but I've lost track of all the anime i've watched, so im just like fk it, and only record the good/decent animes. Since its not like i will remember all the bad ones.
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Just want to thank TL for recommending Welcome To The NHK. Great slice of life and absurdly good pacing, I was dying to know more about the female lead the entire time, and what a unique character until the end (as far as I know). Any similarly high-class slice of life with good(black) comedy but not just spammed comedy? I wanted to know the main characters ended up together even though it would make for horrible tv (both actually and to not "leave it open" at the end), just so cute. Made me feel silly after watching but I won't pretend I didn't enjoy it.
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On February 04 2011 14:39 eth3n wrote: Just want to thank TL for recommending Welcome To The NHK. Great slice of life and absurdly good pacing, I was dying to know more about the female lead the entire time, and what a unique character until the end (as far as I know). Any similarly high-class slice of life with good(black) comedy but not just spammed comedy? I wanted to know the main characters ended up together even though it would make for horrible tv (both actually and to not "leave it open" at the end), just so cute. Made me feel silly after watching but I won't pretend I didn't enjoy it. NHK is pretty one of a kind, imo. it is one of my favorite animes, but i don't think there is another anime that is dark and comedic. I might be wrong though.
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Spazer where are you gettin the raws? I haven't been keeping up for a while ><
On February 04 2011 12:15 Gao Xi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2011 12:06 tonight wrote:Heard of both, watched neither. I don't really go out seeking them, they just happen to be there. There are just so many and I generally don't mind them. If I start a show I almost always finish it even if it's god awful. Example: I recently finished Da Capo second season and it was such a miserable piece of trash that I couldn't wait for it to be done. I didn't even really care for Da Capo so I don't know why I put myself through it. I know how you feel, but there are animes that have broken me, and I've called it quits before. I try to finish most of my stuff, but there has only been like ~10 series. The only one i can think off the top of my head is princess somethingSCRAPPED PRINCESS. Oh god IT WAS THE FCUKING WORST. Spice and wolf was another one In general your taste has just been the weirdest I've seen anyone display in this thread. By far. Ripping on SutePuri? wtf.
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lol, even I like SutePuri.
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On February 04 2011 15:09 Gao Xi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2011 14:39 eth3n wrote: Just want to thank TL for recommending Welcome To The NHK. Great slice of life and absurdly good pacing, I was dying to know more about the female lead the entire time, and what a unique character until the end (as far as I know). Any similarly high-class slice of life with good(black) comedy but not just spammed comedy? I wanted to know the main characters ended up together even though it would make for horrible tv (both actually and to not "leave it open" at the end), just so cute. Made me feel silly after watching but I won't pretend I didn't enjoy it. NHK is pretty one of a kind, imo. it is one of my favorite animes, but i don't think there is another anime that is dark and comedic. I might be wrong though. definitely far better characters than I expected, the comedy as well, amazing, especially if you have ever been through that quasi-hikko period in late undergrad after the parties die down and one of your more nerdy (read: real) friends introduces you to wow in its prime 8(
Total nostalgia as I refused to answer my phone for anyone but my gf while watching the series, after 12+ hour work/school days all I wanted to do was watch it, bar/partying wasn't really that interesting, ended up taking me over a week which is pretty long considering so short
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More Madoka: + Show Spoiler +
Also, welcome to the NHK is a really good show, one of my favorite anime comedies (black humor I suppose).
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