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On February 02 2011 13:08 Neighbor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2011 10:22 Spazer wrote:Yumekui Merry c15 is out. + Show Spoiler +Yumeji takes a level in badass. Some more talk about dreams and nightmares. Kinda confusing. 13000 posts. This thread's getting pretty huge. Ah, that would probably be my fault as the translator. 15 was not easy to put into english (this manga really likes unambiguity to set up future plot twists) . Feel free to yell at me for confusing you. Also I would be more than happy to explain anything that you find confusing. + Show Spoiler +To my understanding, the dream demon is saying that nightmares and dreams are the same thing, and to kill a nightmare is to kill a dream? But then he said something like "what do you think happened to the humans who had their dreams destroyed by you?". I think he's just implying that the humans will no longer have dreams, but I'm not entirely sure.
What does he mean by "you and I can't change" and "I can't be redeemed"? And why does he then try to recruit Engi after saying that?
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On February 02 2011 13:30 tonight wrote:Kimi Ni Todoke + Show Spoiler +I still don't know what Kent is up to. I have no idea what his motives are, but since the start of this season Sawako and Kazehaya's relationship has just been going in reverse. I guess it's ok though because I still love Sawako's chibi face ~ + Show Spoiler +I got to say Kent is like trolling kazehaya, that makes things interesting, imo. I think hes just gonna get really friendly with sawako, and that sorta adds fuel to the fire of "protecting her/popularity" vs "going with his emotions". 'Cause i think he didn't really think about that till Kent mentioned it. Probably the rest of the season (depending on how long it is) will revolve around him chosing a decision (hopefully the right one (i see what i did there)). Yea it really doesn't matter cause everyone in chibi form is lawlzy.
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On February 02 2011 13:42 Gao Xi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2011 13:30 tonight wrote:Kimi Ni Todoke + Show Spoiler +I still don't know what Kent is up to. I have no idea what his motives are, but since the start of this season Sawako and Kazehaya's relationship has just been going in reverse. I guess it's ok though because I still love Sawako's chibi face ~ + Show Spoiler +I got to say Kent is like trolling kazehaya, that makes things interesting, imo. I think hes just gonna get really friendly with sawako, and that sorta adds fuel to the fire of "protecting her/popularity" vs "going with his emotions". 'Cause i think he didn't really think about that till Kent mentioned it. Probably the rest of the season (depending on how long it is) will revolve around him chosing a decision (hopefully the right one (i see what i did there)). Yea it really doesn't matter cause everyone in chibi form is lawlzy.
+ Show Spoiler +Yeah, I was thinking the same thing about Kent, but it could still go either way. That's why I thought things would get moving quicker because this season is only 12episodes, but than again they could make another season. I heard someone say the manga wasn't very far along, though. I would hate for them to make up an ending and stray from the manga, but I would like to have some closure without some year+ delay for episodes while the manga pumps out more chapters.
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On February 02 2011 13:34 Spazer wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2011 13:08 Neighbor wrote:On February 02 2011 10:22 Spazer wrote:Yumekui Merry c15 is out. + Show Spoiler +Yumeji takes a level in badass. Some more talk about dreams and nightmares. Kinda confusing. 13000 posts. This thread's getting pretty huge. Ah, that would probably be my fault as the translator. 15 was not easy to put into english (this manga really likes unambiguity to set up future plot twists) . Feel free to yell at me for confusing you. Also I would be more than happy to explain anything that you find confusing. + Show Spoiler +To my understanding, the dream demon is saying that nightmares and dreams are the same thing, and to kill a nightmare is to kill a dream? But then he said something like "what do you think happened to the humans who had their dreams destroyed by you?". I think he's just implying that the humans will no longer have dreams, but I'm not entirely sure.
What does he mean by "you and I can't change" and "I can't be redeemed"? And why does he then try to recruit Engi after saying that?
+ Show Spoiler +Yes, killing the nightmare will kill the vessel's dream (supposedly). Engi has already killed many nightmares prior to these events so if what the nightmare says is true, then many humans have lost their dreams because of her (it is implied that they were negatively affected somehow).
Engi wants to defeat Pharaos to redeem herself in her eyes (since she blames herself for her sister's death) but really does not want to involve humans (this is shown by her horror when Yumeji gets wounded by her). So when she learns the truth she realizes that she has already broken this principle many times. Furthermore she believes she will also die in battle sometime in the future which she originally believed wouldn't affect Yui that much but now knows that Yui's dreams will die along with her. This causes her to believe that even if she ends up succeeding, by sacrificing so much to do, she wouldn't really be redeemed.
So the nightmare suggests she might as well join him such she's stuck as a "bad guy" (hence the can't change line) anyways.
Hope this helps. I'm still new at this.
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On February 02 2011 14:02 tonight wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2011 13:42 Gao Xi wrote:On February 02 2011 13:30 tonight wrote:Kimi Ni Todoke + Show Spoiler +I still don't know what Kent is up to. I have no idea what his motives are, but since the start of this season Sawako and Kazehaya's relationship has just been going in reverse. I guess it's ok though because I still love Sawako's chibi face ~ + Show Spoiler +I got to say Kent is like trolling kazehaya, that makes things interesting, imo. I think hes just gonna get really friendly with sawako, and that sorta adds fuel to the fire of "protecting her/popularity" vs "going with his emotions". 'Cause i think he didn't really think about that till Kent mentioned it. Probably the rest of the season (depending on how long it is) will revolve around him chosing a decision (hopefully the right one (i see what i did there)). Yea it really doesn't matter cause everyone in chibi form is lawlzy.
+ Show Spoiler +Yeah, I was thinking the same thing about Kent, but it could still go either way. That's why I thought things would get moving quicker because this season is only 12episodes, but than again they could make another season. I heard someone say the manga wasn't very far along, though. I would hate for them to make up an ending and stray from the manga, but I would like to have some closure without some year+ delay for episodes while the manga pumps out more chapters. ![[image loading]](http://linda29693.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/captura52.png) + Show Spoiler +I wouldn't mind another season, as long as the plot is moving forward, and there aren't any filler episodes. Maybe there will be a 3rd season? I hope so, its been pretty good/entertaining so far. obligatory chibi pic: ![[image loading]](http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/1610/sawakoo.png) Side note: Ikoku Meiro no Croisee PV is out, subbed by MSPN
+ Show Spoiler [synopsis] +![[image loading]](http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/4/27494.jpg) The story takes place in the second half of the 19th century, as Japanese culture gains popularity in the West. A young Japanese girl, Yune, accompanies a French traveller, Oscar, on his journey back to France, and offers to help at the family’s ironwork shop in Paris. Oscar’s nephew and shopowner Claude reluctantly accepts to take care of Yune, and we learn how those two, who have so little in common, get to understand each other and live together in the Paris of the 1800s. ~taken from animetake
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Canada8033 Posts
On February 02 2011 14:12 Neighbor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2011 13:34 Spazer wrote:On February 02 2011 13:08 Neighbor wrote:On February 02 2011 10:22 Spazer wrote:Yumekui Merry c15 is out. + Show Spoiler +Yumeji takes a level in badass. Some more talk about dreams and nightmares. Kinda confusing. 13000 posts. This thread's getting pretty huge. Ah, that would probably be my fault as the translator. 15 was not easy to put into english (this manga really likes unambiguity to set up future plot twists) . Feel free to yell at me for confusing you. Also I would be more than happy to explain anything that you find confusing. + Show Spoiler +To my understanding, the dream demon is saying that nightmares and dreams are the same thing, and to kill a nightmare is to kill a dream? But then he said something like "what do you think happened to the humans who had their dreams destroyed by you?". I think he's just implying that the humans will no longer have dreams, but I'm not entirely sure.
What does he mean by "you and I can't change" and "I can't be redeemed"? And why does he then try to recruit Engi after saying that? + Show Spoiler +Yes, killing the nightmare will kill the vessel's dream (supposedly). Engi has already killed many nightmares prior to these events so if what the nightmare says is true, then many humans have lost their dreams because of her (it is implied that they were negatively affected somehow).
Engi wants to defeat Pharaos to redeem herself in her eyes (since she blames herself for her sister's death) but really does not want to involve humans (this is shown by her horror when Yumeji gets wounded by her). So when she learns the truth she realizes that she has already broken this principle many times. Furthermore she believes she will also die in battle sometime in the future which she originally believed wouldn't affect Yui that much but now knows that Yui's dreams will die along with her. This causes her to believe that even if she ends up succeeding, by sacrificing so much to do, she wouldn't really be redeemed.
So the nightmare suggests she might as well join him such she's stuck as a "bad guy" (hence the can't change line) anyways. Hope this helps. I'm still new at this. Okay, that made a lot more sense. Thanks!
+ Show Spoiler [Kaichou wa Maid Sama 57] +About fucking time. I was getting tired of nothing happening chapter after chapter. I swear, the last major development in the story was 30 chapters ago during the festival. Maybe we'll actually see some progress in the plot now.
Nah, wishful thinking there.
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Well, just went through Kirino route. Ayase route still feels much better to me though.
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On February 02 2011 15:52 Gao Xi wrote:+ Show Spoiler [houkago no pleiades] + What the fuck did i just watch? 4 parts of 6 minutes each? That was stupid, nothing really got explained. Just what the fuck. I feel ripped
+ Show Spoiler +It was a standard mahou shoujo crammed into a single episode. We got: - Girl thrust into supernatural situation
- Transformation sequence
- Bad guy collecting stuff (which looks like the confetti from Kobato, incidentally)
- Defeat
- Sudden unexplained powerup of main character
- FRIENDSHIP
As for the plot, I can't really help you there lol. Edit: I thought somebody had uploaded the KnK epilogue onto TT, but no, it's just the subtitles.
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On February 02 2011 15:52 Gao Xi wrote:+ Show Spoiler [houkago no pleiades] + What the fuck did i just watch? 4 parts of 6 minutes each? That was stupid, nothing really got explained. Just what the fuck. I feel ripped
+ Show Spoiler +The show was probably a pilot. Instead of getting a TV slot, they can air whatever, whenever on Youtube, so maybe it was an experiment? I mean, if a lot of people watch it, they'll probably make a full series. If not, then we'll all just forget about it in a couple weeks.
Edit: Fail, forgot the end spoiler tag.
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There is some low def rakkyo epilogue rip, other than that I didn't see anything else.
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I've watched some mahou shoujo before, but this is not how i remember it. zzz It has been a while, I thought they only do pilots with american sitcoms or something.
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On February 02 2011 15:30 Ecael wrote: Well, just went through Kirino route. Ayase route still feels much better to me though.
Your siscon spirit cries. Boohoohoo
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On February 02 2011 15:30 Ecael wrote: Well, just went through Kirino route. Ayase route still feels much better to me though. Is there really a yandere route for her?
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There is one yandere AyaxKiri end and then there is the bad end of stabby stab.
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It's probably in business days. Let's hope it gets here on Monday, and not in April -_-
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Air mail does silly shit like that, my stuff just go by EMS now.
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Thanks, I'll have to remember that next time I buy something.
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I bought something from the US before christmas and it's still not here, I suppose part of it should be the US laws
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