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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
January 14 2011 00:50 GMT
#11721
On January 14 2011 09:46 Spazer wrote:
But first we have to figure out what her powers actually do. <_<]


Explained what's known about it so far ;p

On January 14 2011 09:46 Sentenal wrote:
I get the feeling that the only way for Arc to be defeated, would be for the world to get blown up lol. + Show Spoiler +
In Ciel's route, when Arc when crazy, wasn't Shiki stabbing the ground (or something like that) to kill the planet in that area the only way they could stand up against her?


And that Aoko can do o/
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
January 14 2011 01:10 GMT
#11722
On January 14 2011 09:50 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2011 09:46 Spazer wrote:
But first we have to figure out what her powers actually do. <_<]


Explained what's known about it so far ;p

Show nested quote +
On January 14 2011 09:46 Sentenal wrote:
I get the feeling that the only way for Arc to be defeated, would be for the world to get blown up lol. + Show Spoiler +
In Ciel's route, when Arc when crazy, wasn't Shiki stabbing the ground (or something like that) to kill the planet in that area the only way they could stand up against her?


And that Aoko can do o/

*Aoko blows the world up*
Double KO! lol
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
January 14 2011 02:06 GMT
#11723
Infinite stratos episode 2 out by Whine-subs
never heard of them
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Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
January 14 2011 02:08 GMT
#11724
On January 14 2011 11:06 Gao Xi wrote:
Infinite stratos episode 2 out by Whine-subs
never heard of them


I'm waiting for Ayako's release myself.

I think I just fell in love with Sachi...

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
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Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-14 02:34:51
January 14 2011 02:29 GMT
#11725
Never heard of Whine either, but I hate Ayako's wording. ji-hi suggests that they aren't too bad. I'll give them a try.

Edit: Wow their timing is terrible. Guess Ayako's the better choice after all. Too bad Hina's release is so slow.

MMO's? Girl has no taste.
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Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-14 02:50:55
January 14 2011 02:38 GMT
#11726
On January 14 2011 11:29 Spazer wrote:
Never heard of Whine either, but I hate Ayako's wording. ji-hi suggests that they aren't too bad. I'll give them a try.

Edit: Wow their timing is terrible. Guess Ayako's the better choice after all. Too bad Hina's release is so slow.

MMO's? Girl has no taste.


You have no taste

Edit: Yumekui Merry 2 is out on gg. No MSMM yet

Edit 2: Oh..."For the 80th time, the Madoka translator is gone all today for a convention." ;_;
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
January 14 2011 02:48 GMT
#11727
I watched Whine's release for Freezing, and it wasn't that bad. I looked at their site, and apparently they threw together a release real fast using a shitty raw to "piss Ayako off"... I'll either wait for a v2 or Ayako. Although it wouldn't hurt Ayako to l2grammar.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
January 14 2011 02:53 GMT
#11728
On January 14 2011 11:38 Ferrose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2011 11:29 Spazer wrote:
Never heard of Whine either, but I hate Ayako's wording. ji-hi suggests that they aren't too bad. I'll give them a try.

Edit: Wow their timing is terrible. Guess Ayako's the better choice after all. Too bad Hina's release is so slow.

MMO's? Girl has no taste.


You have no taste

Edit: Yumekui Merry 2 is out on gg. No MSMM yet

Edit 2: Oh..."For the 80th time, the Madoka translator is gone all today for a convention." ;_;

Let me take this time to rub it in and tell you guys how awesome ep2 was and how I want ep3 now and and and

Someone not gg should get it done soon, not much dialogue
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
January 14 2011 02:56 GMT
#11729
On January 14 2011 11:53 Ecael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2011 11:38 Ferrose wrote:
On January 14 2011 11:29 Spazer wrote:
Never heard of Whine either, but I hate Ayako's wording. ji-hi suggests that they aren't too bad. I'll give them a try.

Edit: Wow their timing is terrible. Guess Ayako's the better choice after all. Too bad Hina's release is so slow.

MMO's? Girl has no taste.


You have no taste

Edit: Yumekui Merry 2 is out on gg. No MSMM yet

Edit 2: Oh..."For the 80th time, the Madoka translator is gone all today for a convention." ;_;

Let me take this time to rub it in and tell you guys how awesome ep2 was and how I want ep3 now and and and

Someone not gg should get it done soon, not much dialogue


That was uncalled for ;_;
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Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-14 03:04:10
January 14 2011 02:59 GMT
#11730
Nutbladder released Madoka ep 2 earlier today.

[image loading]

LOL

By the way, the ED changed to reflect the size of his harem.

Edit:
On January 14 2011 11:48 Sentenal wrote:
I watched Whine's release for Freezing, and it wasn't that bad. I looked at their site, and apparently they threw together a release real fast using a shitty raw to "piss Ayako off"... I'll either wait for a v2 or Ayako. Although it wouldn't hurt Ayako to l2grammar.

Oh, I see. It seemed like their raw came from niconico or something. I prefer their translation over Ayako's, so as long as they don't pull anything stupid, I guess I'll stick with them.
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Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
January 14 2011 03:03 GMT
#11731
lmao

I'm gonna torrent MSMM and IS from Nutbladder and Whine respectively. I guess I'll see how they are.
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TimeOut
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1277 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-14 03:27:36
January 14 2011 03:24 GMT
#11732
MSMM Ep2.

The german text displayed at 16:41 is a direct quote from Goethe's Faust. English translation taken from the George Madison Priest version linked through WP.
+ Show Spoiler [Faust] +
Weh! weh! / Woe! Woe!
Du hast sie zerstört. / Thou hast destroyed
Die schöne Welt, / The beautiful world,
Mit mächtiger Faust; / With powerful fist;
Sie stürzt, sie zerfällt! / 'Tis smashed, downward hurled!
Ein Halbgott hat sie zerschlagen! / A demigod dashed it to bits!
Wir tragen / We're trailing
Die Trümmern ins Nichts hinüber. / The ruins on to the Void,
Und klagen / And wailing
Über die verlorne Schöne. / Over the beauty lost and gone!


It continues later at 18:07, with the following part.
+ Show Spoiler [Faust] +
Mächtiger / Mighty one
Der Erdensöhne, / Midst the sons of earth,
Prächtiger / Splendider
Baue sie wieder, / Build it again,
In deinem Busen baue sie auf! / Build it aloft in thy breast!
Neuen Lebenslauf / And life's new quest
Beginne, / Commence
Mit hellem Sinne, / With clearer sense,
Und neue Lieder / And songs of cheer
Tönen darauf! / Anew shalt hear!


So... Magical girl fights, including even more insane musket action (I guess I should think about my "no drugs" stance, if it makes you see that sort of crazy stuff) and a lot of background exposition. Pretty interesting episode. I still wonder what the drawback to the whishes is. I guess Madoka's question about Homura's wish hit pretty close.

Compare with the following interview spoilers with the producers for even more mind games.
+ Show Spoiler [MSMM Interview] +
- Every word from Homura has meaning.
- The story revolves around a single theme.
- A Mahou Shoujo is not necessary a hero.
- The show is not a monster-of-the-week type of show.
- The concepts of enemies and magic weapons are different from the standard.
- Mahou Shoujo in this show are not united as a single group.
- The main element of the story is how everyone from a different standpoint understands each other.
- Everything about Homura is mysterious, unlike other characters where their parts and motivation are clear.
- Mami knows the mechanism of the world to a certain degree, so her part is a guide to Madoka and Sayaka.
- Madoka and Sayaka will follow the way Mami leads, but at a certain point they might choose their own paths.


Edit: About Nutbladder, as far as I can tell, their subs are pretty good. Not as bad as gg's at least, but they drop honorifics. Waiting for Chihiro for archival purposes I guess, but Nutbladder is watchable.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-14 03:34:10
January 14 2011 03:29 GMT
#11733
Thanks, I was trying to google to see what exactly that was about myself.

EDIT - Time to dig out my copy of Faust when I get home.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
January 14 2011 04:00 GMT
#11734
+ Show Spoiler [MSMM 2] +
Damn, that was awesome. And it even had a Goethe reference <3

I want the OP and ED singles to come out. Those songs are amazing.

It seems like this show has a certain formula: First 2/3 is just kinda like slice of life school stuff. And the last 1/3 is an acid trip.

Also, I wonder if they can turn off that telepathy. That'd be pretty annoying. And embarrassing.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
TimeOut
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1277 Posts
January 14 2011 04:12 GMT
#11735
+ Show Spoiler [MSMM 2] +
There is so much unexplained at the moment... Why do the girls need to recharge their powers by hunting witches? Why are there witches and how do they appear? What is the dream all about? Why did Homura warn Madoka about becoming a magical girl? Is Kyuube evil (see Faust reference / "make a contract")? What did the other girls wish for and was it really granted? Are there other drawbacks to the wish contract? What happens if a magical girl doesn't defeat enough witches to restore their magical power?

I love shows that allow to speculate about the background. <3


Also here is a Musket .gif for you (3 MB)
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-14 04:37:00
January 14 2011 04:20 GMT
#11736
On January 14 2011 13:12 TimeOut wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [MSMM 2] +
There is so much unexplained at the moment... Why do the girls need to recharge their powers by hunting witches? Why are there witches and how do they appear? What is the dream all about? Why did Homura warn Madoka about becoming a magical girl? Is Kyuube evil (see Faust reference / "make a contract")? What did the other girls wish for and was it really granted? Are there other drawbacks to the wish contract? What happens if a magical girl doesn't defeat enough witches to restore their magical power?

I love shows that allow to speculate about the background. <3


Also here is a Musket .gif for you (3 MB)
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


+ Show Spoiler +
I just hope that those are answered. I'd be pretty disappointed if they didn't really explain all the stuff behind the magic. I also hope that this show is more than fucking twelve/thirteen episodes.

And nice gif, reminds me of when Senjougahara opens her skirt and all the random school supplies fall out.


+ Show Spoiler [IS 2] +
That was so fucking stupid. The parameters of the duel are that if your shields deplete, you lose. So they give him this mech that he's never used before that has an attack that drains your shields to zero, and he loses by unwittingly using it. I hope that the LNs weren't written this poorly -_-

At least now it's plausible that they don't use them for war. With only 467 in existence, it'd be pretty impractical to use them; losing one in battle would be incredibly costly.
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Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-14 04:47:34
January 14 2011 04:39 GMT
#11737
+ Show Spoiler [MSMM 2] +
I'm like what I've seen of this show so far. It's legitimately interesting stuff.

The contract seems far too good to be true. I feel like there must be a drawback somewhere. I suspect that once you accept the contract, you are forced directly (Can't rebel against the rabbit thing) or indirectly (You lose your powers? Your wish? Your life?) to fight the witches. So far, the witches have been portrayed as evil, but that's mostly because of what Mami's said, and because they look alien. Things probably aren't so black and white though.

It's interesting to note that the seed didn't recharge Mami's magic - rather, it sucked the darkness out of her jewel. And if the girls recharge their magic by killing witches, I wonder if it's safe to assume that witches do the same by killing magical girls.

I think I could listen to the OP all day. I kinda wish they'd give us a proper ED.


By the way, in IS it was suggested that charging towards someone with a long range weapon is bad. I dunno about you, but it seems strategically sound to me. =/

Also, Merry is cute.

On January 14 2011 13:20 Ferrose wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [IS 2] +
That was so fucking stupid. The parameters of the duel are that if your shields deplete, you lose. So they give him this mech that he's never used before that has an attack that drains your shields to zero, and he loses by unwittingly using it. I hope that the LNs weren't written this poorly -_-

At least now it's plausible that they don't use them for war. With only 467 in existence, it'd be pretty impractical to use them; losing one in battle would be incredibly costly.

+ Show Spoiler +
While his ability is useless in duels, there's no doubt in my mind that real combat will occur by the end of the series. Especially considering the first ep.

It's not impractical to use IS in battle. With limited numbers, it just means that mass production isn't an option. The IS has a wide variety of weaponry (presumably), has shielding, is stupidly maneuverable, and can fly. It's your run of the mill overpowered mech. Just because you can't deploy them everywhere doesn't mean they won't be effective in battle. Yes, losing a suit would be costly, but they'd be so good at killing stuff that it wouldn't matter. For instance, aircraft carriers are ridiculously expensive and losing one would be catastrophic, yet they're still used because air superiority is invaluable.
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Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
January 14 2011 04:41 GMT
#11738
Seriously, the full version for the MSMM OP needs to come out NOW. It's annoying to only have a 1:30 version
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TimeOut
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1277 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-14 04:45:53
January 14 2011 04:45 GMT
#11739
On January 14 2011 13:39 Spazer wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [MSMM 2] +
I'm like what I've seen of this show so far. It's legitimately interesting stuff.

The contract seems far too good to be true. I feel like there must be a drawback somewhere. I suspect that once you accept the contract, you are forced directly (Can't rebel against the rabbit thing) or indirectly (You lose your powers? Your wish? Your life?) to fight the witches. So far, the witches have been portrayed as evil, but that's mostly because of what Mami's said, and because they look alien. Things probably aren't so black and white though.

It's interesting to note that the seed didn't recharge Mami's magic - rather, it sucked the darkness out of her jewel. And if the girls recharge their magic by killing witches, I wonder if it's safe to assume that witches do the same by killing magical girls.

I think I could listen to the OP all day. I kinda wish they'd give us a proper ED.


By the way, in IS it was suggested that charging towards someone with a long range weapon is bad. I dunno about you, but it seems strategically sound to me. =/

Also, Merry is cute.


+ Show Spoiler [MSMM 2] +
The "sucking out the darkness"-part is interesting. Perhaps if a magical girl uses too much magic it will transform into a witch? So if you don't want to become one, you need to kill other witches to save yourself from the darkness accumulating in your jewel.

If you take a look at the gif above (or the fight scene), one of the recurring parts in the background is a butterfly (mark of the witch) and a egg-jewel (magical girl "device"). Butterflies are commonly associated with death, rebirth, metamorphosis and the cycle of life. What does the egg-jewel stand for? Also the symbols always appear next to each other in a never-ending circle, so they have to be connected by more than just being enemies.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-14 04:50:45
January 14 2011 04:47 GMT
#11740
On January 14 2011 13:45 TimeOut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2011 13:39 Spazer wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [MSMM 2] +
I'm like what I've seen of this show so far. It's legitimately interesting stuff.

The contract seems far too good to be true. I feel like there must be a drawback somewhere. I suspect that once you accept the contract, you are forced directly (Can't rebel against the rabbit thing) or indirectly (You lose your powers? Your wish? Your life?) to fight the witches. So far, the witches have been portrayed as evil, but that's mostly because of what Mami's said, and because they look alien. Things probably aren't so black and white though.

It's interesting to note that the seed didn't recharge Mami's magic - rather, it sucked the darkness out of her jewel. And if the girls recharge their magic by killing witches, I wonder if it's safe to assume that witches do the same by killing magical girls.

I think I could listen to the OP all day. I kinda wish they'd give us a proper ED.


By the way, in IS it was suggested that charging towards someone with a long range weapon is bad. I dunno about you, but it seems strategically sound to me. =/

Also, Merry is cute.


+ Show Spoiler [MSMM 2] +
The "sucking out the darkness"-part is interesting. Perhaps if a magical girl uses too much magic it will transform into a witch? So if you don't want to become one, you need to kill other witches to save yourself from the darkness accumulating in your jewel.

If you take a look at the gif above (or the fight scene), one of the recurring parts in the background is a butterfly (mark of the witch) and a egg-jewel (magical girl "device"). Butterflies are commonly associated with death, rebirth, metamorphosis and the cycle of life. What does the egg-jewel stand for? Also the symbols always appear next to each other in a never-ending circle, so they have to be connected by more than just being enemies.


+ Show Spoiler +
That doesn't make sense though. It's like: You're using too much magic and becoming a witch. How do you solve it? USE MORE MAGIC TO KILL A WITCH



On January 14 2011 13:39 Spazer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2011 13:20 Ferrose wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [IS 2] +
That was so fucking stupid. The parameters of the duel are that if your shields deplete, you lose. So they give him this mech that he's never used before that has an attack that drains your shields to zero, and he loses by unwittingly using it. I hope that the LNs weren't written this poorly -_-

At least now it's plausible that they don't use them for war. With only 467 in existence, it'd be pretty impractical to use them; losing one in battle would be incredibly costly.

+ Show Spoiler +
While his ability is useless in duels, there's no doubt in my mind that real combat will occur by the end of the series. Especially considering the first ep.

It's not impractical to use IS in battle. With limited numbers, it just means that mass production isn't an option. The IS has a wide variety of weaponry (presumably), has shielding, is stupidly maneuverable, and can fly. It's your run of the mill overpowered mech. Just because you can't deploy them everywhere doesn't mean they won't be effective in battle. Yes, losing a suit would be costly, but they'd be so good at killing stuff that it wouldn't matter. For instance, aircraft carriers are ridiculously expensive and losing one would be catastrophic, yet they're still used because air superiority is invaluable.


+ Show Spoiler +
I just hope that the show gets better. It's been really meh so far. I'm just frustrated I guess : /

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