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TimeOut
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1277 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-14 05:07:48
January 14 2011 05:05 GMT
#11741
On January 14 2011 13:47 Ferrose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2011 13:45 TimeOut wrote:
On January 14 2011 13:39 Spazer wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [MSMM 2] +
I'm like what I've seen of this show so far. It's legitimately interesting stuff.

The contract seems far too good to be true. I feel like there must be a drawback somewhere. I suspect that once you accept the contract, you are forced directly (Can't rebel against the rabbit thing) or indirectly (You lose your powers? Your wish? Your life?) to fight the witches. So far, the witches have been portrayed as evil, but that's mostly because of what Mami's said, and because they look alien. Things probably aren't so black and white though.

It's interesting to note that the seed didn't recharge Mami's magic - rather, it sucked the darkness out of her jewel. And if the girls recharge their magic by killing witches, I wonder if it's safe to assume that witches do the same by killing magical girls.

I think I could listen to the OP all day. I kinda wish they'd give us a proper ED.


By the way, in IS it was suggested that charging towards someone with a long range weapon is bad. I dunno about you, but it seems strategically sound to me. =/

Also, Merry is cute.


+ Show Spoiler [MSMM 2] +
The "sucking out the darkness"-part is interesting. Perhaps if a magical girl uses too much magic it will transform into a witch? So if you don't want to become one, you need to kill other witches to save yourself from the darkness accumulating in your jewel.

If you take a look at the gif above (or the fight scene), one of the recurring parts in the background is a butterfly (mark of the witch) and a egg-jewel (magical girl "device"). Butterflies are commonly associated with death, rebirth, metamorphosis and the cycle of life. What does the egg-jewel stand for? Also the symbols always appear next to each other in a never-ending circle, so they have to be connected by more than just being enemies.


+ Show Spoiler +
That doesn't make sense though. It's like: You're using too much magic and becoming a witch. How do you solve it? USE MORE MAGIC TO KILL A WITCH



+ Show Spoiler [MSMM 2] +
To further speculate: No, in that case it would be too late for you. When your magical power is gone / tainted, you have no chance to defeat another witch. But since your contract demands that you defeat them, you'll have to fight another witch. Either you get killed without your magic, or you use magic, reach the taint threshold and become another witch.

Edit: That would also work with the cycle of life or the death and rebirth imagery of the witches butterfly. And would lead to a constant supply of witches for the magical girls to defeat, only to become one in the future. You could even tie some sort of "there will always be evil in the world" balance to this.

Unrelated to that, we learned that the Grief Seeds have charges (and can be shared). I wonder if one charge removes all taint or if they are limited in some way. They are also considered a reward and if you listen carefully, they not guaranteed to "drop" when you defeat a witch. So if you are unlucky, you could defeat a few witches, don't get a Grief Seed and have no way to remove the darkness from your magic.


Watched Wandering Son / Hourou Musuko right now. Pretty art style and a serious, somewhat confusing story (as expected). Definitively recommended, but it's not some lighthearted fun series. It seemed like they skipped A LOT of the earlier story, but I haven't had the time to read the manga yet, so that might be my imagination.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-14 05:13:04
January 14 2011 05:12 GMT
#11742
On January 14 2011 13:47 Ferrose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2011 13:39 Spazer wrote:
On January 14 2011 13:20 Ferrose wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [IS 2] +
That was so fucking stupid. The parameters of the duel are that if your shields deplete, you lose. So they give him this mech that he's never used before that has an attack that drains your shields to zero, and he loses by unwittingly using it. I hope that the LNs weren't written this poorly -_-

At least now it's plausible that they don't use them for war. With only 467 in existence, it'd be pretty impractical to use them; losing one in battle would be incredibly costly.

+ Show Spoiler +
While his ability is useless in duels, there's no doubt in my mind that real combat will occur by the end of the series. Especially considering the first ep.

It's not impractical to use IS in battle. With limited numbers, it just means that mass production isn't an option. The IS has a wide variety of weaponry (presumably), has shielding, is stupidly maneuverable, and can fly. It's your run of the mill overpowered mech. Just because you can't deploy them everywhere doesn't mean they won't be effective in battle. Yes, losing a suit would be costly, but they'd be so good at killing stuff that it wouldn't matter. For instance, aircraft carriers are ridiculously expensive and losing one would be catastrophic, yet they're still used because air superiority is invaluable.


+ Show Spoiler +
I just hope that the show gets better. It's been really meh so far. I'm just frustrated I guess : /


I agree that the show has been pretty mediocre so far. The fights aren't bad, but the story is kinda lacking.

I have Hourou Musuko and Fractale downloaded, but I should probably start studying for the quiz I have tomorrow. I've wasted enough time on LoGH, IS, and Madoka already lol.
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Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-14 05:18:45
January 14 2011 05:16 GMT
#11743
On January 14 2011 14:05 TimeOut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2011 13:47 Ferrose wrote:
On January 14 2011 13:45 TimeOut wrote:
On January 14 2011 13:39 Spazer wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [MSMM 2] +
I'm like what I've seen of this show so far. It's legitimately interesting stuff.

The contract seems far too good to be true. I feel like there must be a drawback somewhere. I suspect that once you accept the contract, you are forced directly (Can't rebel against the rabbit thing) or indirectly (You lose your powers? Your wish? Your life?) to fight the witches. So far, the witches have been portrayed as evil, but that's mostly because of what Mami's said, and because they look alien. Things probably aren't so black and white though.

It's interesting to note that the seed didn't recharge Mami's magic - rather, it sucked the darkness out of her jewel. And if the girls recharge their magic by killing witches, I wonder if it's safe to assume that witches do the same by killing magical girls.

I think I could listen to the OP all day. I kinda wish they'd give us a proper ED.


By the way, in IS it was suggested that charging towards someone with a long range weapon is bad. I dunno about you, but it seems strategically sound to me. =/

Also, Merry is cute.


+ Show Spoiler [MSMM 2] +
The "sucking out the darkness"-part is interesting. Perhaps if a magical girl uses too much magic it will transform into a witch? So if you don't want to become one, you need to kill other witches to save yourself from the darkness accumulating in your jewel.

If you take a look at the gif above (or the fight scene), one of the recurring parts in the background is a butterfly (mark of the witch) and a egg-jewel (magical girl "device"). Butterflies are commonly associated with death, rebirth, metamorphosis and the cycle of life. What does the egg-jewel stand for? Also the symbols always appear next to each other in a never-ending circle, so they have to be connected by more than just being enemies.


+ Show Spoiler +
That doesn't make sense though. It's like: You're using too much magic and becoming a witch. How do you solve it? USE MORE MAGIC TO KILL A WITCH



+ Show Spoiler [MSMM 2] +
To further speculate: No, in that case it would be too late for you. When your magical power is gone / tainted, you have no chance to defeat another witch. But since your contract demands that you defeat them, you'll have to fight another witch. Either you get killed without your magic, or you use magic, reach the taint threshold and become another witch.

Edit: That would also work with the cycle of life or the death and rebirth imagery of the witches butterfly. And would lead to a constant supply of witches for the magical girls to defeat, only to become one in the future. You could even tie some sort of "there will always be evil in the world" balance to this.

Unrelated to that, we learned that the Grief Seeds have charges (and can be shared). I wonder if one charge removes all taint or if they are limited in some way. They are also considered a reward and if you listen carefully, they not guaranteed to "drop" when you defeat a witch. So if you are unlucky, you could defeat a few witches, don't get a Grief Seed and have no way to remove the darkness from your magic.


Watched Wandering Son / Hourou Musuko right now. Pretty art style and a serious, somewhat confusing story (as expected). Definitively recommended, but it's not some lighthearted fun series. It seemed like they skipped A LOT of the earlier story, but I haven't had the time to read the manga yet, so that might be my imagination.


+ Show Spoiler +
And they only have a finite amount of uses. It'll be interesting to see how they are used in the later episodes.

Oh yeah, since the magic girls compete against each other to kill the witches, I wonder if Madoka and Sayaka(?) will end up having to fight each other or even Mami one day.


The video on Yumekui Merry 2 from gg just stopped at 19:20. The audio kept going though. Right when it got to the good part

I think I'm gonna keep watching the show for Merry and the Dream Demons. Merry is too awesome. Did anyone else notice that she sounds EXACTLY like Kirino from OreImo? I looked to see if it was the same seiyuu, and oddly enough, it's a different seiyuu in her first ever role. Go figure.

@ Spazer: I've been putting LoGH off for a few days. I'm six eps behind lolol
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Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
January 14 2011 05:23 GMT
#11744
Incidently, gg released a v2 for Yumekui Merry a little while after the initial release. Aren't you using MAL updater? It should've picked it up.
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n3m0
Profile Joined January 2007
Portugal247 Posts
January 14 2011 05:23 GMT
#11745
On January 13 2011 20:07 tonight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2011 13:06 n3m0 wrote:
So.. I recently heard that Kimi ni todoke got a live action film (ye, with real actors). I really love the anime and the manga and I was looking forward to see the movie but I can't seem to find a good source to download it (already subtitled).

Can anyone help me? :b (pming me would be best)

I have heard of no such thing. If this is true I'm going to have to look for it when I get home from work today. Though, I'll seriously be creeped out if the girl that plays Sawako really looks like the chick from the Ring.


The trailer is on youtube ;b I was hoping sawako would be cuter *.*
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Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-14 05:30:53
January 14 2011 05:25 GMT
#11746
On January 14 2011 14:23 Spazer wrote:
Incidently, gg released a v2 for Yumekui Merry a little while after the initial release. Aren't you using MAL updater? It should've picked it up.


I think I need to reinstall it. It keeps bugging out on me. Then when I use task manager to close it, it won't re-open -_-

Edit: I just remembered, I torrented Kore wa Zombie desu ka? and the Onii-Chan show like three days ago, and still haven't watched them. D:
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triangle
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3803 Posts
January 14 2011 05:38 GMT
#11747
Woot UTW just released Fractale. Now time to finally check that out.

Vacation is drawing to a close, so my viewing will slow down dramatically. I watch maybe an ep or 2 a week when I'm in school, and a ton over breaks. Winter break I watched/read:
Umineko ep 7
All of Shiki
All of Ichigo Mashimaro
Iblard Jikan
Finished Mirai Nikki
Disappearance
And 60 eps of LoGH

And over the rest of term I'll probably get through about 20 eps total lol.
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
January 14 2011 06:21 GMT
#11748
What did you think about the end of Season 2 of LOGH?
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DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
January 14 2011 08:21 GMT
#11749
IS 2
+ Show Spoiler +
The elitist class rep is falling for him already? I hoped that they would wait a few episodes before expanding the harem.
I'm not sure if i like the show yet. It seems to be lacking something, but I can't put my finger on what that is.
I can already see the ending
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-14 10:21:04
January 14 2011 09:13 GMT
#11750
On January 14 2011 17:21 DCLXVI wrote:
IS 2
+ Show Spoiler +
The elitist class rep is falling for him already? I hoped that they would wait a few episodes before expanding the harem.
I'm not sure if i like the show yet. It seems to be lacking something, but I can't put my finger on what that is.

+ Show Spoiler +
It's lacking a plot. A good one, at least.

Now for some predictions:
  • This has to be 24 eps. I don't think they can introduce the rest of the harem and still have a semblance of a plot in just 12. In fact, I think everything up until 12 will be harem stuff.
  • New unclassified IS appears. Lots of throwaway student mooks lose to it (bet it's a man).
  • Goal of the new IS is to take over the world or some equivalent for the sake of equal rights for men great justice. Actually, scratch that. He's doing it because he's an evil villain.
  • War breaks out which means our hero gets to use his fancy ability since it's not a stupid duel.
  • Our hero fights the IS and loses.
  • Missing sister is making cores for the enemy! OMG BEST PLOT TWIST EVER
  • Houki has emotional breakdown upon learning this. Cue several episodes of angst.
  • Everybody works together and beats the new IS. Bonus points if they left Houki behind at first and she arrives in the middle of battle.


I like my chances.

Edit: I almost forgot. "First shift" implies that there'll be a second, third, and probably final shift as well.


+ Show Spoiler [Misc Madoka thoughts] +
Mami is in the ninth grade. Where are her parents? Madoka has parents. Homura said some stuff about why Madoka shouldn't become a magical girl because she values her family, right?
Why does Kyubey need to recruit new magical girls? This implies that new ones are needed. Are the numbers of magical girls decreasing (becoming witches?) or are the numbers of witches increasing (because of the corruption of magical girls?)?
What is the criteria for becoming a magical girl? Why doesn't Kyubey just recruit everyone?
For a genki girl, Sayaka can certainly be morose. Troubled past or something?
Where the heck did that tea come from? O.o
Kyubey is evil. I know that all happy rabbit avatars are evil because I watched Kobato.

Rumor has it this is the cover for the ED single:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

I don't think it's been confirmed by a reputable source though.


Merry is cuuuuuute. Holy crap. And the art in this show is so good. Barring some horrible screw up, I'm gonna watch the rest of this show.
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Shinshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1237 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-14 09:59:10
January 14 2011 09:58 GMT
#11751
Okay, long spoiler post going in here
+ Show Spoiler [Yumekui Merry] +
Was it just me or did that Merry ep make little sense, unless of course that was my fault for watching it over x1 speed, but what I grasped from it was:

They have some random chick who wants to become a nurse, and she has a dream demon that she's friends with. The whole episode is pretty much plot development, with Merry staying over, showing that the main char has a family, (mom's dead more stereotypes :D) w/ a overused transfer student (female of course) who seems to/will be important.

After that, some random dream eater comes, kills the dream demon that was introduced this episode (probably as showing a vessel type interaction), and takes over the girls consciousness, then the ep ends, trying to show more of a connection between the main character Merry and Yumeji.


+ Show Spoiler [Infinite Stratos] +
For IS I think its pretty generic, with the plot line + character development. The harem growing is pretty standard once they put 1 male character... The fact that the story seems pretty much all about his past, and like a fight in present time.

Looking @ the next ep seeing another girl is pretty well... I don't know . TBH This seems like it'll just your average shounen/harem type anime, but the fighting animations are pretty nice, with the exception of the weapon variety being the same as gundams DRAGOON system + beam sword anyone?


Modoka seem's okay, but is just starting of slow (its late so I won't make another spoiler post about it). Hourou Musuko is pretty weird... and I haven't watched Fractale yet so T_T
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Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
January 14 2011 10:24 GMT
#11752
I find Hourou Musuko a bit funny? lol, and Yumekui Merry bores me, I don't really like it. Infinite Stratos is entertaining as long i just watch it and not think about it. Madoka is pretty interesting for a mahou shoujo, and the witch stuff seems like im on drugs or something.
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koOma
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway462 Posts
January 14 2011 10:58 GMT
#11753
I'm not trying to diss anime, I LOVED Ghost in the Shell and Spirited Away, but most of the anime I come accross is so cheesy and gimmicky. Are there any more anime series/movies that are of similar quality to the ones mentioned?
He wears a mask so when he dogs his face / Each and every race could absorb the bass /// ST_Life
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
January 14 2011 11:14 GMT
#11754
On January 14 2011 14:23 n3m0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2011 20:07 tonight wrote:
On January 13 2011 13:06 n3m0 wrote:
So.. I recently heard that Kimi ni todoke got a live action film (ye, with real actors). I really love the anime and the manga and I was looking forward to see the movie but I can't seem to find a good source to download it (already subtitled).

Can anyone help me? :b (pming me would be best)

I have heard of no such thing. If this is true I'm going to have to look for it when I get home from work today. Though, I'll seriously be creeped out if the girl that plays Sawako really looks like the chick from the Ring.


The trailer is on youtube ;b I was hoping sawako would be cuter *.*

I just saw the trailer. It looks alright and looks like it's taking directly from season one, but they're just going to smash it all together in one hour and a half movie. Yeah, they could of made Sawako cuter, but whatever.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
January 14 2011 11:41 GMT
#11755
On January 14 2011 19:58 koOma wrote:
I'm not trying to diss anime, I LOVED Ghost in the Shell and Spirited Away, but most of the anime I come accross is so cheesy and gimmicky. Are there any more anime series/movies that are of similar quality to the ones mentioned?

Not gonna lie, I don't really know what you expect. Define "cheesy and gimmicky", for starters. That could mean a loooot of things. Guess I'll just list good stuff.

Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
Bungaku Shoujo
Denpateki na Kanojo
Princess Mononoke
Eve no Jikan
5cm/s
Now and Then, Here and There
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koOma
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway462 Posts
January 14 2011 12:13 GMT
#11756
On January 14 2011 20:41 Spazer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2011 19:58 koOma wrote:
I'm not trying to diss anime, I LOVED Ghost in the Shell and Spirited Away, but most of the anime I come accross is so cheesy and gimmicky. Are there any more anime series/movies that are of similar quality to the ones mentioned?

Not gonna lie, I don't really know what you expect. Define "cheesy and gimmicky", for starters. That could mean a loooot of things. Guess I'll just list good stuff.

Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
Bungaku Shoujo
Denpateki na Kanojo
Princess Mononoke
Eve no Jikan
5cm/s
Now and Then, Here and There


awesome thx : ) I'm into the format, just think most stuff I've seen are weak in some respect. It's hard to describe I guess. Any advice on where to get this stuff?
He wears a mask so when he dogs his face / Each and every race could absorb the bass /// ST_Life
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
January 14 2011 12:17 GMT
#11757
http://www2.tokyotosho.info/index.php

If there are no seeds, check here: http://www.bakabt.com/

DDL: http://www.animetake.com/

Lastly, see which subbing groups subbed the anime on myanimelist. Go to the group's IRC channel. Most of them have distro bots you can download from.
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koOma
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway462 Posts
January 14 2011 13:44 GMT
#11758
thx again, really appreciate it!
He wears a mask so when he dogs his face / Each and every race could absorb the bass /// ST_Life
TimeOut
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1277 Posts
January 14 2011 16:53 GMT
#11759
+ Show Spoiler [IS 2] +
Meh, if there are only 467, that won't explain the implied societal changes at all. At least I was somewhat right about the summoning possibilities (I guess it's in the bracelet).

Not really impressed so far, but the tsundere is cute and the fights are pretty good, so I'll stay with it for now. Also it still looks nice and the tech is still interesting. (A bunny girl is the developer of the IS?)


+ Show Spoiler [Fractale 1] +
I was right to wait for UTW with this one. Really beautiful visuals, please don't watch this one on FUNimation, it needs to be in HD.

Can't say much about the story, very slow paced. The girl is nice, and the ending was a little unexpected. I wonder what's up with the 3 idiots. :D
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-14 18:13:03
January 14 2011 18:04 GMT
#11760
On January 14 2011 18:13 Spazer wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
It's lacking a plot. A good one, at least.

Now for some predictions:
  • This has to be 24 eps. I don't think they can introduce the rest of the harem and still have a semblance of a plot in just 12. In fact, I think everything up until 12 will be harem stuff.
  • New unclassified IS appears. Lots of throwaway student mooks lose to it (bet it's a man).
  • Goal of the new IS is to take over the world or some equivalent for the sake of equal rights for men great justice. Actually, scratch that. He's doing it because he's an evil villain.
  • War breaks out which means our hero gets to use his fancy ability since it's not a stupid duel.
  • Our hero fights the IS and loses.
  • Missing sister is making cores for the enemy! OMG BEST PLOT TWIST EVER
  • Houki has emotional breakdown upon learning this. Cue several episodes of angst.
  • Everybody works together and beats the new IS. Bonus points if they left Houki behind at first and she arrives in the middle of battle.


I like my chances.

Edit: I almost forgot. "First shift" implies that there'll be a second, third, and probably final shift as well.


IS
+ Show Spoiler +
I think you're jumping a bit too far ahead. From what I've been told about the LN, the "plot" hasn't really progressed anywhere meaningful in 6 volumes. And the series still has a long way to go before it works its way through the content in the LNs.

I don't think anyone has any idea where this is actually headed, if it's even headed anywhere at all.


On January 14 2011 18:58 Shinshady wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Yumekui Merry] +
Was it just me or did that Merry ep make little sense, unless of course that was my fault for watching it over x1 speed, but what I grasped from it was:

They have some random chick who wants to become a nurse, and she has a dream demon that she's friends with. The whole episode is pretty much plot development, with Merry staying over, showing that the main char has a family, (mom's dead more stereotypes :D) w/ a overused transfer student (female of course) who seems to/will be important.

After that, some random dream eater comes, kills the dream demon that was introduced this episode (probably as showing a vessel type interaction), and takes over the girls consciousness, then the ep ends, trying to show more of a connection between the main character Merry and Yumeji.

Yumekui Merry
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That whole nurse thing was...odd. If I'm remembering correctly, she wasn't there at that point in the manga--so either they're pulling from an issue that I haven't read yet in order to speed up the progression of the story so it fits in a season, or she's just a character they made up for the anime. In either case, her insertion into the story is a little awkward.
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