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Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
January 12 2011 16:48 GMT
#11661
On January 13 2011 01:40 DarthXX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2011 01:29 Ferrose wrote:
On January 13 2011 01:26 Ecael wrote:
On January 12 2011 12:03 Judicator wrote:
On January 12 2011 11:59 Sentenal wrote:
I suppose the FMP anime doesn't do a good enough job elaborating on the role of Tanks, since Tanks don't really do anything in the anime. They just used Mechs and Helicopters for everything.


Tanks are there for the Arm Slaves to destroy.

Actually AS has a hard time dealing with tanks unless they have anti-tank weapons. Conventional AS weapons are typically lower caliber and don't have the penetration power necessary to deal with tanks.

Like, the throwing daggers you see Sousuke use from time to time are pretty meant for anti-tank usage, essentially a knife with explosive charges in them. Without those kinds of weapons though AS can't really get in a head-to-head fight with tanks.

Then meet Al.


The Arbalest's cannons just destroy everything.

It seems like helicopters are pretty frail though. I mean, the helis can wreck the Arm Slaves, but the Mythril people were easily taking the helis out with M9s.


Wasn't there a thing in one of the earlier episodes (mightve even been the first one) where Souske manages to take down a Hind in an AS and everybody is super impressed as Hind > AS?. Although iirc he was in an M6.

It is more the lambda driver than the Boxer shotgun, well, there is also the fact that his shotgun is fired at pretty damn close range.

Helicopters are frail, but usually they outrange AS and have anti-tank rockets, if the latter hits they just wreck an AS. That the folks at Mythril was wrecking helis so easily was more due to ECS and ECCS.

And I think Sousuke was in a M9 by then, can't recall clearly. The M9 was getting adopted into service around the time when Sousuke and Kurtz got scouted and I recall the opening scene from FMP involved ECS usage.
CaffeineFree-_-
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States712 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-12 18:38:55
January 12 2011 18:38 GMT
#11662
On January 13 2011 01:40 DarthXX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2011 01:29 Ferrose wrote:
On January 13 2011 01:26 Ecael wrote:
On January 12 2011 12:03 Judicator wrote:
On January 12 2011 11:59 Sentenal wrote:
I suppose the FMP anime doesn't do a good enough job elaborating on the role of Tanks, since Tanks don't really do anything in the anime. They just used Mechs and Helicopters for everything.


Tanks are there for the Arm Slaves to destroy.

Actually AS has a hard time dealing with tanks unless they have anti-tank weapons. Conventional AS weapons are typically lower caliber and don't have the penetration power necessary to deal with tanks.

Like, the throwing daggers you see Sousuke use from time to time are pretty meant for anti-tank usage, essentially a knife with explosive charges in them. Without those kinds of weapons though AS can't really get in a head-to-head fight with tanks.

Then meet Al.

The Arbalest's cannons just destroy everything.

It seems like helicopters are pretty frail though. I mean, the helis can wreck the Arm Slaves, but the Mythril people were easily taking the helis out with M9s.


Wasn't there a thing in one of the earlier episodes (mightve even been the first one) where Souske manages to take down a Hind in an AS and everybody is super impressed as Hind > AS?. Although iirc he was in an M6.

First ep and he was in an M9. Grabbed the heli and threw it lol
We say we love flowers, yet we pluck them. We say we love trees, yet we cut them down. And people still wonder why some are afraid when told they are loved
Kakera
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States419 Posts
January 12 2011 18:49 GMT
#11663
On January 13 2011 01:29 DarthXX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2011 01:22 Ferrose wrote:
On January 13 2011 01:20 DarthXX wrote:
On January 13 2011 01:18 Ferrose wrote:
On January 13 2011 01:11 DarthXX wrote:
On January 13 2011 00:58 Ferrose wrote:
On January 12 2011 15:17 Sentenal wrote:
Code Geass would be alot better if Kallen's real father was in it.

...Now time to see if anyone gets the joke lol


You know what I hate? R2's later time slot.

"We must redo everything and give all the characters breast implants!"


At least its better than highschool of the dead where all the high school girls already HAVE breast implants.


But that's an ecchi. It's to be expected.


I know it was just so laughably terrible that I like to take pot shots at it whenever I can


You're bashing an ecchi for having lots of fanservice?!


It's just one of those things, like I read the summary and thought holy crap this might be awesome! zombies and anime? then I saw it was ecchi my heart sank. So I went to watch this with no expectations but it still managed to disappoint me somehow, just like that Avatar movie (but that's another story.) or stargate universe you know? You know its gonna suck but somewhere in the back of your mind there is still this ill-founded hope, albeit it tiny, that it will be good. But at the end of it, it still sucks and that tiny bit of hope blossoms into flowers of bitterness which will bloom for eternity.


It's ok bro, some people are just born gay. No one blames you or judges you. It's a personal lifestyle choice you've made and we stand by you. But here's a hint, for us "males", only one thing makes a zombie+anime coop better, and that's boobs.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
January 12 2011 19:20 GMT
#11664
I think Sousuke might be better at using a Savage than he does a M9
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
January 12 2011 19:22 GMT
#11665
Tessa's M9 wins, hands down :d
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legendre20
Profile Joined November 2010
United States316 Posts
January 12 2011 19:57 GMT
#11666
Ah ok, ty for the clarification Sent. Props that you've watched all of those

I love this thread since I'm just a casual anime watcher (even though I've watched an ass load) and there are a ton of extremely knowledgeable people on the subject ^____^

btw kakera I don't think that was necessary lol.. I hear where he's coming from. It's the "I like anime and zombies so I'll give this a shot even though I'm not a fan of ecchi" mentality. Although in my case I still liked it a lot
"Sen, lings are OP" - HelloKittySS /// <3 http://www.twitch.tv/legendre20 <3
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9592 Posts
January 12 2011 20:19 GMT
#11667
Yeah I really don't know why people bash ecchi so much, but I kinda understand the "there a time and place for everything" mentality. Guess DarthXX just wanted a horror/suspense anime with a serious plot and zombies. I absolutely loved Hots the way it was. The wet boobs the panty shots, the bathroom scenes, the apron-on-bare-skin moments etc. It was all good.

I understand people not being fans of this genre but bashing it everytime and everywhere it is brought up is getting tiresome.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/LathamTK/builds/#view=CrqmP6
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
January 12 2011 22:20 GMT
#11668
Episode 1 of Kimi Ni Todoke picks up right where it left off, but Sawako still drives me bat shit crazy. I still think it's a cute show, though. At the same time when I watch it and whine about certain situations I also think about when I was in Highschool and then I can't blame the writers/her character. Still, man up.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
January 12 2011 22:38 GMT
#11669
On January 13 2011 01:29 triangle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2011 20:18 Sentenal wrote:
On January 12 2011 18:44 Spazer wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [LoGH 31+32] +
The inquiry is the stupidest thing I have ever seen. The outcome is obvious once you realize that the war is lost without Yang. I mean, yeah, they were basically forced to do it because of Phezzan, but what the heck was the purpose of extending the inquiry so many times? -_-

lol @ Yang wanting to retire in the flashiest manner possible.

The parallels between this series and Star Wars are hilarious. Let's see:
  • The Imperial Empire vs the Rebel Alliance
  • Empire = Germany
  • Alliance pilots wear orange flightsuits
  • Imperial pilots wear facemasks
  • Geiersberg is essentially the Death Star (Moon sized space station with a superweapon )

Star Wars' story has nothing on LoGH though.

+ Show Spoiler +
Iserlohn might as well been the Death Star in Golden Wings lol
[image loading]
Yes, that is Iserlohn, and one of the many things that irritated me about that movie.

And yeah, that inquiry was very frustrating. The show almost makes you hate democracy sometimes lol.

But on the bright side, Yang being away gives all the other people in Yang's group a chance to do their thing. When Yang is around, he just eclipses everyone else.


@DarthXX: A hint would be that Kallen's father involves another anime, so you may or may not get it...

+ Show Spoiler [LoGH stuff] +
Yeah, except that you'd never have that in a democracy :p How many times in history do you remember politicians reining in a popular military leader because they were afraid of a coup? Ever? I can't think of a single one in any governmental system, let alone in a democracy. The closest thing I can think of was Truman firing MacArthur, and that wasn't politically motivated, it was political suicide. The only reason he did it was he was afraid MacArthur would start a nuclear war.

I wonder if LoGH is so down on democracy because the Japanese government is freaking awful. But the flaws in the alliance gov. are pretty different from those in the Japanese one. It's like the author thought democracy wasn't that great because of his own experience, but the flaws he saw didn't fit in with the plot so he made up a bunch of flaws that don't really make sense.

Another annoying thing is the constant talk about Yang becoming a dictator. How the fuck is he supposed to do that? Invade, topple the government, and declare himself king? The people would react horribly, regardless of how popular Yang was. And he isn't a charismatic leader either, so he probably wouldn't make that that politically effective of a leader either. Coups like this tend to fail hard, like the one in earlier LoGH, or the one in Thailand several years ago where the military got rid of a horribly unpopular ruler (the alliance gov is bad, but doesn't seem that unpopular) and installed a military government for all of two years before the country returned to democracy. A coup was both doomed to fail and probably damaging to the country. So why on earth does every keep talking about and debating such a thing?

If later on in the series Yang leads a coup, (unless it is against some empire interim gov which is viewed by the people as totally illegitimate) I'm going to be extremely annoyed at this show.

+ Show Spoiler +
About the fear of Yang leading a coup, people are afraid he will see the current Alliance Government as completely corrupt (which is pretty much is), and overthrown it in an effort to restore democracy. And Yang is a popular figure, much more than the current government, so he would have popular support. But then there is the fear that all the power going to his head would corrupt him. And with how the Alliance Government treats Yang, its like its completely unlikely that he would have a coup. But I guess you will just have to watch and see
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8036 Posts
January 12 2011 22:42 GMT
#11670
On January 13 2011 01:29 Ferrose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2011 01:26 Ecael wrote:
On January 12 2011 12:03 Judicator wrote:
On January 12 2011 11:59 Sentenal wrote:
I suppose the FMP anime doesn't do a good enough job elaborating on the role of Tanks, since Tanks don't really do anything in the anime. They just used Mechs and Helicopters for everything.


Tanks are there for the Arm Slaves to destroy.

Actually AS has a hard time dealing with tanks unless they have anti-tank weapons. Conventional AS weapons are typically lower caliber and don't have the penetration power necessary to deal with tanks.

Like, the throwing daggers you see Sousuke use from time to time are pretty meant for anti-tank usage, essentially a knife with explosive charges in them. Without those kinds of weapons though AS can't really get in a head-to-head fight with tanks.

Then meet Al.


The Arbalest's cannons just destroy everything.

It seems like helicopters are pretty frail though. I mean, the helis can wreck the Arm Slaves, but the Mythril people were easily taking the helis out with M9s.

Again, you'll learn just how horribly broken the M9 (and ECS in general) is when you read Burning One Man Force.
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Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
January 12 2011 23:34 GMT
#11671
On January 13 2011 04:22 Southlight wrote:
Tessa's M9 wins, hands down :d

Is it just me or that Tessa would've probably been better off learning a Savage instead.

On January 13 2011 07:42 Spazer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2011 01:29 Ferrose wrote:
On January 13 2011 01:26 Ecael wrote:
On January 12 2011 12:03 Judicator wrote:
On January 12 2011 11:59 Sentenal wrote:
I suppose the FMP anime doesn't do a good enough job elaborating on the role of Tanks, since Tanks don't really do anything in the anime. They just used Mechs and Helicopters for everything.


Tanks are there for the Arm Slaves to destroy.

Actually AS has a hard time dealing with tanks unless they have anti-tank weapons. Conventional AS weapons are typically lower caliber and don't have the penetration power necessary to deal with tanks.

Like, the throwing daggers you see Sousuke use from time to time are pretty meant for anti-tank usage, essentially a knife with explosive charges in them. Without those kinds of weapons though AS can't really get in a head-to-head fight with tanks.

Then meet Al.


The Arbalest's cannons just destroy everything.

It seems like helicopters are pretty frail though. I mean, the helis can wreck the Arm Slaves, but the Mythril people were easily taking the helis out with M9s.

Again, you'll learn just how horribly broken the M9 (and ECS in general) is when you read Burning One Man Force.

ECS is freaking broken lol, then you realize that the whole Danaan has ECS.

But again Sousuke on a Savage > all.
triangle
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3803 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-13 00:14:56
January 13 2011 00:11 GMT
#11672
On January 13 2011 07:38 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2011 01:29 triangle wrote:
On January 12 2011 20:18 Sentenal wrote:
On January 12 2011 18:44 Spazer wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [LoGH 31+32] +
The inquiry is the stupidest thing I have ever seen. The outcome is obvious once you realize that the war is lost without Yang. I mean, yeah, they were basically forced to do it because of Phezzan, but what the heck was the purpose of extending the inquiry so many times? -_-

lol @ Yang wanting to retire in the flashiest manner possible.

The parallels between this series and Star Wars are hilarious. Let's see:
  • The Imperial Empire vs the Rebel Alliance
  • Empire = Germany
  • Alliance pilots wear orange flightsuits
  • Imperial pilots wear facemasks
  • Geiersberg is essentially the Death Star (Moon sized space station with a superweapon )

Star Wars' story has nothing on LoGH though.

+ Show Spoiler +
Iserlohn might as well been the Death Star in Golden Wings lol
[image loading]
Yes, that is Iserlohn, and one of the many things that irritated me about that movie.

And yeah, that inquiry was very frustrating. The show almost makes you hate democracy sometimes lol.

But on the bright side, Yang being away gives all the other people in Yang's group a chance to do their thing. When Yang is around, he just eclipses everyone else.


@DarthXX: A hint would be that Kallen's father involves another anime, so you may or may not get it...

+ Show Spoiler [LoGH stuff] +
Yeah, except that you'd never have that in a democracy :p How many times in history do you remember politicians reining in a popular military leader because they were afraid of a coup? Ever? I can't think of a single one in any governmental system, let alone in a democracy. The closest thing I can think of was Truman firing MacArthur, and that wasn't politically motivated, it was political suicide. The only reason he did it was he was afraid MacArthur would start a nuclear war.

I wonder if LoGH is so down on democracy because the Japanese government is freaking awful. But the flaws in the alliance gov. are pretty different from those in the Japanese one. It's like the author thought democracy wasn't that great because of his own experience, but the flaws he saw didn't fit in with the plot so he made up a bunch of flaws that don't really make sense.

Another annoying thing is the constant talk about Yang becoming a dictator. How the fuck is he supposed to do that? Invade, topple the government, and declare himself king? The people would react horribly, regardless of how popular Yang was. And he isn't a charismatic leader either, so he probably wouldn't make that that politically effective of a leader either. Coups like this tend to fail hard, like the one in earlier LoGH, or the one in Thailand several years ago where the military got rid of a horribly unpopular ruler (the alliance gov is bad, but doesn't seem that unpopular) and installed a military government for all of two years before the country returned to democracy. A coup was both doomed to fail and probably damaging to the country. So why on earth does every keep talking about and debating such a thing?

If later on in the series Yang leads a coup, (unless it is against some empire interim gov which is viewed by the people as totally illegitimate) I'm going to be extremely annoyed at this show.

+ Show Spoiler +
About the fear of Yang leading a coup, people are afraid he will see the current Alliance Government as completely corrupt (which is pretty much is), and overthrown it in an effort to restore democracy. And Yang is a popular figure, much more than the current government, so he would have popular support. But then there is the fear that all the power going to his head would corrupt him. And with how the Alliance Government treats Yang, its like its completely unlikely that he would have a coup. But I guess you will just have to watch and see

I understand all of that. I'm just saying that Yang leading a coup would be disastrous for both Yang and the alliance. The fact that people are endorsing such a policy and others are afraid Yang will lead a coup makes no sense whatsoever.
Also known as waterfall / w4terfall
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
January 13 2011 00:36 GMT
#11673
On January 13 2011 08:34 Ecael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2011 04:22 Southlight wrote:
Tessa's M9 wins, hands down :d

Is it just me or that Tessa would've probably been better off learning a Savage instead.

Show nested quote +
On January 13 2011 07:42 Spazer wrote:
On January 13 2011 01:29 Ferrose wrote:
On January 13 2011 01:26 Ecael wrote:
On January 12 2011 12:03 Judicator wrote:
On January 12 2011 11:59 Sentenal wrote:
I suppose the FMP anime doesn't do a good enough job elaborating on the role of Tanks, since Tanks don't really do anything in the anime. They just used Mechs and Helicopters for everything.


Tanks are there for the Arm Slaves to destroy.

Actually AS has a hard time dealing with tanks unless they have anti-tank weapons. Conventional AS weapons are typically lower caliber and don't have the penetration power necessary to deal with tanks.

Like, the throwing daggers you see Sousuke use from time to time are pretty meant for anti-tank usage, essentially a knife with explosive charges in them. Without those kinds of weapons though AS can't really get in a head-to-head fight with tanks.

Then meet Al.


The Arbalest's cannons just destroy everything.

It seems like helicopters are pretty frail though. I mean, the helis can wreck the Arm Slaves, but the Mythril people were easily taking the helis out with M9s.

Again, you'll learn just how horribly broken the M9 (and ECS in general) is when you read Burning One Man Force.

ECS is freaking broken lol, then you realize that the whole Danaan has ECS.

But again Sousuke on a Savage > all.


Only Mythril has the ECS right?
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8036 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-13 01:07:56
January 13 2011 01:03 GMT
#11674
On January 13 2011 09:36 Ferrose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2011 08:34 Ecael wrote:
On January 13 2011 07:42 Spazer wrote:
On January 13 2011 01:29 Ferrose wrote:
On January 13 2011 01:26 Ecael wrote:
On January 12 2011 12:03 Judicator wrote:
On January 12 2011 11:59 Sentenal wrote:
I suppose the FMP anime doesn't do a good enough job elaborating on the role of Tanks, since Tanks don't really do anything in the anime. They just used Mechs and Helicopters for everything.


Tanks are there for the Arm Slaves to destroy.

Actually AS has a hard time dealing with tanks unless they have anti-tank weapons. Conventional AS weapons are typically lower caliber and don't have the penetration power necessary to deal with tanks.

Like, the throwing daggers you see Sousuke use from time to time are pretty meant for anti-tank usage, essentially a knife with explosive charges in them. Without those kinds of weapons though AS can't really get in a head-to-head fight with tanks.

Then meet Al.


The Arbalest's cannons just destroy everything.

It seems like helicopters are pretty frail though. I mean, the helis can wreck the Arm Slaves, but the Mythril people were easily taking the helis out with M9s.

Again, you'll learn just how horribly broken the M9 (and ECS in general) is when you read Burning One Man Force.

ECS is freaking broken lol, then you realize that the whole Danaan has ECS.

But again Sousuke on a Savage > all.


Only Mythril has the ECS right?

Nope, Amalgam does as well.

On January 13 2011 08:34 Ecael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2011 07:42 Spazer wrote:
On January 13 2011 01:29 Ferrose wrote:
On January 13 2011 01:26 Ecael wrote:
On January 12 2011 12:03 Judicator wrote:
On January 12 2011 11:59 Sentenal wrote:
I suppose the FMP anime doesn't do a good enough job elaborating on the role of Tanks, since Tanks don't really do anything in the anime. They just used Mechs and Helicopters for everything.


Tanks are there for the Arm Slaves to destroy.

Actually AS has a hard time dealing with tanks unless they have anti-tank weapons. Conventional AS weapons are typically lower caliber and don't have the penetration power necessary to deal with tanks.

Like, the throwing daggers you see Sousuke use from time to time are pretty meant for anti-tank usage, essentially a knife with explosive charges in them. Without those kinds of weapons though AS can't really get in a head-to-head fight with tanks.

Then meet Al.


The Arbalest's cannons just destroy everything.

It seems like helicopters are pretty frail though. I mean, the helis can wreck the Arm Slaves, but the Mythril people were easily taking the helis out with M9s.

Again, you'll learn just how horribly broken the M9 (and ECS in general) is when you read Burning One Man Force.

ECS is freaking broken lol, then you realize that the whole Danaan has ECS.

But again Sousuke on a Savage > all.
Only if there's holes in the cockpit so he can smell the ionized air, lol. I still can't believe he won that fight. It defies all logic.
Liquipedia
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
January 13 2011 01:04 GMT
#11675
On January 13 2011 10:03 Spazer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2011 09:36 Ferrose wrote:
On January 13 2011 08:34 Ecael wrote:
On January 13 2011 04:22 Southlight wrote:
Tessa's M9 wins, hands down :d

Is it just me or that Tessa would've probably been better off learning a Savage instead.

On January 13 2011 07:42 Spazer wrote:
On January 13 2011 01:29 Ferrose wrote:
On January 13 2011 01:26 Ecael wrote:
On January 12 2011 12:03 Judicator wrote:
On January 12 2011 11:59 Sentenal wrote:
I suppose the FMP anime doesn't do a good enough job elaborating on the role of Tanks, since Tanks don't really do anything in the anime. They just used Mechs and Helicopters for everything.


Tanks are there for the Arm Slaves to destroy.

Actually AS has a hard time dealing with tanks unless they have anti-tank weapons. Conventional AS weapons are typically lower caliber and don't have the penetration power necessary to deal with tanks.

Like, the throwing daggers you see Sousuke use from time to time are pretty meant for anti-tank usage, essentially a knife with explosive charges in them. Without those kinds of weapons though AS can't really get in a head-to-head fight with tanks.

Then meet Al.


The Arbalest's cannons just destroy everything.

It seems like helicopters are pretty frail though. I mean, the helis can wreck the Arm Slaves, but the Mythril people were easily taking the helis out with M9s.

Again, you'll learn just how horribly broken the M9 (and ECS in general) is when you read Burning One Man Force.

ECS is freaking broken lol, then you realize that the whole Danaan has ECS.

But again Sousuke on a Savage > all.


Only Mythril has the ECS right?

Nope, Amalgam does as well.


Amalgam=???
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8036 Posts
January 13 2011 01:11 GMT
#11676
On January 13 2011 10:04 Ferrose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2011 10:03 Spazer wrote:
On January 13 2011 09:36 Ferrose wrote:
On January 13 2011 08:34 Ecael wrote:
On January 13 2011 04:22 Southlight wrote:
Tessa's M9 wins, hands down :d

Is it just me or that Tessa would've probably been better off learning a Savage instead.

On January 13 2011 07:42 Spazer wrote:
On January 13 2011 01:29 Ferrose wrote:
On January 13 2011 01:26 Ecael wrote:
On January 12 2011 12:03 Judicator wrote:
On January 12 2011 11:59 Sentenal wrote:
I suppose the FMP anime doesn't do a good enough job elaborating on the role of Tanks, since Tanks don't really do anything in the anime. They just used Mechs and Helicopters for everything.


Tanks are there for the Arm Slaves to destroy.

Actually AS has a hard time dealing with tanks unless they have anti-tank weapons. Conventional AS weapons are typically lower caliber and don't have the penetration power necessary to deal with tanks.

Like, the throwing daggers you see Sousuke use from time to time are pretty meant for anti-tank usage, essentially a knife with explosive charges in them. Without those kinds of weapons though AS can't really get in a head-to-head fight with tanks.

Then meet Al.


The Arbalest's cannons just destroy everything.

It seems like helicopters are pretty frail though. I mean, the helis can wreck the Arm Slaves, but the Mythril people were easily taking the helis out with M9s.

Again, you'll learn just how horribly broken the M9 (and ECS in general) is when you read Burning One Man Force.

ECS is freaking broken lol, then you realize that the whole Danaan has ECS.

But again Sousuke on a Savage > all.


Only Mythril has the ECS right?

Nope, Amalgam does as well.


Amalgam=???

They haven't talked about Amalgam yet? I thought they would've, but it's been a while since I've watched the anime. Maybe it's in season 3. Can't remember.
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Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
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Last Edited: 2011-01-13 01:19:49
January 13 2011 01:18 GMT
#11677
Since M9 is technically an American-British model, and the fact that the Soviet Union has the Shadow, I'd say that all the major powers have ECS. The more advanced models of M6 had ECS too iirc.

Oh in terms of the smelling the ionized air part, remember how Kurtz parked an M9 at Tokyo and no one even noticed? lol. But yeah that fight was so badass.

And Amalgam was definitely talked about by season 2. Fumoffu is more like a season 1.5 lol
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-13 01:28:42
January 13 2011 01:18 GMT
#11678
On January 13 2011 10:11 Spazer wrote:
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On January 13 2011 10:04 Ferrose wrote:
On January 13 2011 10:03 Spazer wrote:
On January 13 2011 09:36 Ferrose wrote:
On January 13 2011 08:34 Ecael wrote:
On January 13 2011 04:22 Southlight wrote:
Tessa's M9 wins, hands down :d

Is it just me or that Tessa would've probably been better off learning a Savage instead.

On January 13 2011 07:42 Spazer wrote:
On January 13 2011 01:29 Ferrose wrote:
On January 13 2011 01:26 Ecael wrote:
On January 12 2011 12:03 Judicator wrote:
On January 12 2011 11:59 Sentenal wrote:
I suppose the FMP anime doesn't do a good enough job elaborating on the role of Tanks, since Tanks don't really do anything in the anime. They just used Mechs and Helicopters for everything.


Tanks are there for the Arm Slaves to destroy.

Actually AS has a hard time dealing with tanks unless they have anti-tank weapons. Conventional AS weapons are typically lower caliber and don't have the penetration power necessary to deal with tanks.

Like, the throwing daggers you see Sousuke use from time to time are pretty meant for anti-tank usage, essentially a knife with explosive charges in them. Without those kinds of weapons though AS can't really get in a head-to-head fight with tanks.

Then meet Al.


The Arbalest's cannons just destroy everything.

It seems like helicopters are pretty frail though. I mean, the helis can wreck the Arm Slaves, but the Mythril people were easily taking the helis out with M9s.

Again, you'll learn just how horribly broken the M9 (and ECS in general) is when you read Burning One Man Force.

ECS is freaking broken lol, then you realize that the whole Danaan has ECS.

But again Sousuke on a Savage > all.


Only Mythril has the ECS right?

Nope, Amalgam does as well.


Amalgam=???

They haven't talked about Amalgam yet? I thought they would've, but it's been a while since I've watched the anime. Maybe it's in season 3. Can't remember.


So far it's just been Mythrill v Russians

Edit: Season 2 is just 13 episodes? What a bummer
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Thratur
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada917 Posts
January 13 2011 01:36 GMT
#11679
On January 13 2011 09:11 triangle wrote:
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On January 13 2011 07:38 Sentenal wrote:
On January 13 2011 01:29 triangle wrote:
On January 12 2011 20:18 Sentenal wrote:
On January 12 2011 18:44 Spazer wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [LoGH 31+32] +
The inquiry is the stupidest thing I have ever seen. The outcome is obvious once you realize that the war is lost without Yang. I mean, yeah, they were basically forced to do it because of Phezzan, but what the heck was the purpose of extending the inquiry so many times? -_-

lol @ Yang wanting to retire in the flashiest manner possible.

The parallels between this series and Star Wars are hilarious. Let's see:
  • The Imperial Empire vs the Rebel Alliance
  • Empire = Germany
  • Alliance pilots wear orange flightsuits
  • Imperial pilots wear facemasks
  • Geiersberg is essentially the Death Star (Moon sized space station with a superweapon )

Star Wars' story has nothing on LoGH though.

+ Show Spoiler +
Iserlohn might as well been the Death Star in Golden Wings lol
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Yes, that is Iserlohn, and one of the many things that irritated me about that movie.

And yeah, that inquiry was very frustrating. The show almost makes you hate democracy sometimes lol.

But on the bright side, Yang being away gives all the other people in Yang's group a chance to do their thing. When Yang is around, he just eclipses everyone else.


@DarthXX: A hint would be that Kallen's father involves another anime, so you may or may not get it...

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Yeah, except that you'd never have that in a democracy :p How many times in history do you remember politicians reining in a popular military leader because they were afraid of a coup? Ever? I can't think of a single one in any governmental system, let alone in a democracy. The closest thing I can think of was Truman firing MacArthur, and that wasn't politically motivated, it was political suicide. The only reason he did it was he was afraid MacArthur would start a nuclear war.

I wonder if LoGH is so down on democracy because the Japanese government is freaking awful. But the flaws in the alliance gov. are pretty different from those in the Japanese one. It's like the author thought democracy wasn't that great because of his own experience, but the flaws he saw didn't fit in with the plot so he made up a bunch of flaws that don't really make sense.

Another annoying thing is the constant talk about Yang becoming a dictator. How the fuck is he supposed to do that? Invade, topple the government, and declare himself king? The people would react horribly, regardless of how popular Yang was. And he isn't a charismatic leader either, so he probably wouldn't make that that politically effective of a leader either. Coups like this tend to fail hard, like the one in earlier LoGH, or the one in Thailand several years ago where the military got rid of a horribly unpopular ruler (the alliance gov is bad, but doesn't seem that unpopular) and installed a military government for all of two years before the country returned to democracy. A coup was both doomed to fail and probably damaging to the country. So why on earth does every keep talking about and debating such a thing?

If later on in the series Yang leads a coup, (unless it is against some empire interim gov which is viewed by the people as totally illegitimate) I'm going to be extremely annoyed at this show.

+ Show Spoiler +
About the fear of Yang leading a coup, people are afraid he will see the current Alliance Government as completely corrupt (which is pretty much is), and overthrown it in an effort to restore democracy. And Yang is a popular figure, much more than the current government, so he would have popular support. But then there is the fear that all the power going to his head would corrupt him. And with how the Alliance Government treats Yang, its like its completely unlikely that he would have a coup. But I guess you will just have to watch and see

I understand all of that. I'm just saying that Yang leading a coup would be disastrous for both Yang and the alliance. The fact that people are endorsing such a policy and others are afraid Yang will lead a coup makes no sense whatsoever.


I agree, Yang leading a coup does not make any sense for now. He would probably have the power to do it, but he would have a lot of trouble to maintain it, especially if he tries to restore democracy. He still has a long way to go first. But then Reinhard managed to become this powerful while being this young! It's amazing.

+ Show Spoiler [29-32] +

I'm sorry for being late on 29-30 but I couldn't watch it yesterday

It looks like Reinhard is really psychologically destroyed. I hope he finds some happiness somewhere. I also hope he won't break his promise to Kircheis. I really want him to take over the universe!

Julian has now been promoted. I wonder if he'll work his way up to admiral? I don't really like Julian, he's a less cool Kircheis for me... I guess we won't know until he actually acquires some power. Anyway, his death for now would mean less than Kempf or Mecklinger or Hilda to me. It's annoying since he's the revolving character of the ED once again.

I hope Phezzan gets obliterated in a gigantic explosion. Nothing to add there. Probably will happen though.

The fortress fight is gonna be amazing. I hope both get destroyed in the end!
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
January 13 2011 03:27 GMT
#11680
Do you guys have any recommendations for visual novels? I want to start playing them, but I don't know where to start.

Also, good sites to torrent them from? I'm scared that I'm gonna get a virus.
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