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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
January 10 2011 09:25 GMT
#11541
Black Lagoon OVA 3 <3
Roberta so OP.
Also Lotton is even better animated than in the manga, ahahahah.

+ Show Spoiler [spoilery pics] +
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Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8031 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-10 09:43:25
January 10 2011 09:40 GMT
#11542
+ Show Spoiler [Genshiken ch 3] +
I thought we were done with Madrarame's unrequited love.

D:

+ Show Spoiler [LoGH 27+28] +
More characters? Sheesh.

Julian's a pilot now. So he ends up as a soldier after all... It was kinda expected though.

Mittermeyer's proposal is pretty cute. I was half expecting him to get run over by a car though.

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PEDOPHILE

Moving Geirsberg to counter Iserlohn is an interesting strategy, but it seems incredibly wasteful. I'm surprised that Reinhard actually considers it to be a workable plan.


Edit: Oh yeah, I tried watching Beelzebub. I found it incredibly unfunny. First dropped show of the season! I think I'll drop Index as well. I've had about all I can stand of Touma.
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holdthephone
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States523 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-10 10:11:38
January 10 2011 10:09 GMT
#11543
I suppose I'll have to give those a watch before I can continue the discussion. Though even without watching them I can easily accept that there are deeper characters out there in comparison, but that really isn't relevant to how well something is executed.

It's like comparing the narrative of a game like Planescape Torment to something like a Final Fantasy. They are both enjoyable for very different reasons. They are both well written in very different ways. Where as a game like MGS4, deepest thing I've ever seen, is a pile of shit. Sorry for the game comparisons, that's just my field of expertise

And as someone who is very bummed on anime for being shitty so often, and was expecting S&W to be "oh, a girl with animal ears that has cute mannerisms, i'll probably have to kill myself" -- I ended up being quite taken with how well played the characters were. As people have said so far, it's just a 2 character show with some straightforward "economic" issues -- and yet while it's definitely not The Godfather or something from Shakespeare, it's easily one of the most amusing series I've seen.

I do see where you are coming from, and it's easy to understand the criticisms. At the moment I do think S&W is a well executed tale -- but thank you for the recommendations and I will definitely come back to this after giving them a run/read through.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
January 10 2011 10:32 GMT
#11544
Well, standards change as you get exposed to more things. For something revolving around the relationship of two main characters and the growth of the said characters in question, Crest/Banner of the Stars just does everything so much better than S&W. For something that revolves around the humor value of bantering between characters, Seitokai no Ichizon and the Monogatari series (Bake) does it much better than S&W.

The point isn't so much that S&W did what, but what S&W had that other things also had but capitalized better on. So in that sense, it is in fact how well something is executed - the overall experience was not good enough to make us defend S&W where the individual parts has failed.

But yeah like I said, standards. When your expectation is just for Horo to be some cute furry then yeah, S&W is much better than that. When you are expecting a witty show with economics, finances, and awesome character interaction...yeah. I guess ultimately it was how the initial premise and settings were so promising...then we see 2 seasons of the same thing. Oops?
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-10 10:38:31
January 10 2011 10:35 GMT
#11545
On January 10 2011 18:40 Spazer wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [LoGH 27+28] +
More characters? Sheesh.

Julian's a pilot now. So he ends up as a soldier after all... It was kinda expected though.

Mittermeyer's proposal is pretty cute. I was half expecting him to get run over by a car though.

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PEDOPHILE

Moving Geirsberg to counter Iserlohn is an interesting strategy, but it seems incredibly wasteful. I'm surprised that Reinhard actually considers it to be a workable plan.


+ Show Spoiler +
Wasteful? Eh, maybe. Hilarious? Yes lol. Fortress vs Fortress haha. But honestly, the Fortress only had worth in the Civil War. Since the Alliance doesn't have the means to attack the Empire (and Reinhard knows it because of their very damaging Civil War), the Geisberg itself lacks any strategic value. But to take a Fortress like that and use it on Offense, against the Impregenible Iserlohn Fortress might be a way to recapture the corridor.


So, I've finished LOGH: Overture to a New War. It was very good. I kinda wish I suggested for you guys to start off with at least Movies 1 and 2 (Conquest of the Sea of Stars and Overture to a New War), because they not only give alot more content, but they are great introductions too.

Conquest deals with Reinhard and Yang's first encounter on the battlefield with each other (among other things), and gives people like Mittermeyer, Reuenthal, Mecklinger, and even Steinmetz early opportunities to do stuff, not to mention Reinhard, Kircheis, and Yang.

Overture takes place right after that. The first half of the movie is basically a prequel to Episode 1, and the last half is Episode 1 and 2 done even better. People who didn't get much screen time or character developement that early in the show actually get to do stuff. Fahrenheit for example has speaking roles, and they do alot with Yang/Lap/Jessica. Even though the Astate Encounter is pretty much the same, they elaborate more on it, and overall its just better executed. And of course, Yang/Reinhard/Kircheis get more stuff to do.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Blobskillz
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany548 Posts
January 10 2011 12:29 GMT
#11546
On January 10 2011 17:36 Ecael wrote:


EDIT - Yes, I honestly think that the four from Seitokai no Ichizon has more depth than Horo. At the very least, I couldn't stomach more of the S&W books, I loved the Seitokai series.


are you seriously comparing some random comedy anime with something with a story? But from the animes you lsited I can clearly see what type of girl you prefer
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
January 10 2011 14:18 GMT
#11547
On January 10 2011 05:11 tonight wrote:
Well, I've been getting her into anime the last year or so. So, when she says she wants to watch something I'm not going to argue it. She is just about to finish Clannad: After Story. I told I thought she'd really like it when I was watching it.


Same situation but the roles are reversed.

I'm the one getting all into Anime and it's mostly because she (and you guys) kept recommending me stuff. Though she doesn't watch a lot of the stuff that I watch, every once in a while we find some kind of strange common ground.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Blobskillz
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany548 Posts
January 10 2011 14:30 GMT
#11548
everybody loves anime when they get over the first stereotypes
TimeOut
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1277 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-10 15:02:50
January 10 2011 14:35 GMT
#11549
On December 05 2010 07:23 Southlight wrote:
I don't recommend it unless you fall in love with Horo. I'm a staunch believer in that being the one and only reason people actually like the anime.


So I'm right in liking Spice and Wolf.

Thank you all for your comments / criticism. Now I can understand where you are coming from. It's much better than just saying "Hey, this show is sooooo bad."

In the end it seems to be personal preference. I watched the show for the interaction between Horo and Lawrence, not for the story-influenced economics. Yes, this includes the flirting, because I found it to be funny. Spice and Wolf, for me, is mainly a romantic story about the two and their journey, not a show about economics with a wolf.

I guess it also helps to go think about shows/movies in the usual way. We'll see that which the author thought was the most interesting thing to show, not everything that happens. Does Lawrence have other deals and doesn't fail all the time? Sure, but that doesn't need to be shown, because it's not a "real" story. Would I like to see such scenes and other interaction between Horo and Lawrence? Sure, but I enjoy the series even without them.

But I agree with triangle that the show has it's weak points when you take away the interaction between the two main characters.

On January 10 2011 16:59 Ecael wrote:
Only saving grace about S&W is that it didn't fail as badly as sola and Angel Beats.


Both are shows that I enjoyed too.

Edit: Chihiro has picked up MSMM, so for people who don't like gg subs, there is an alternative.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-10 15:13:16
January 10 2011 15:07 GMT
#11550
On January 10 2011 21:29 Blobskillz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2011 17:36 Ecael wrote:


EDIT - Yes, I honestly think that the four from Seitokai no Ichizon has more depth than Horo. At the very least, I couldn't stomach more of the S&W books, I loved the Seitokai series.


are you seriously comparing some random comedy anime with something with a story? But from the animes you lsited I can clearly see what type of girl you prefer

Are you seriously pretending S&W has more story than Seitokai no Ichizon? Because I can't. The thrown-together plot of the latter feels by far more coherent than the former. In S&W, stories are just an excuse for you to see Horo and Lawrence flirt with one another.

On January 10 2011 23:35 TimeOut wrote:
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On December 05 2010 07:23 Southlight wrote:
I don't recommend it unless you fall in love with Horo. I'm a staunch believer in that being the one and only reason people actually like the anime.


So I'm right in liking Spice and Wolf.

Thank you all for your comments / criticism. Now I can understand where you are coming from. It's much better than just saying "Hey, this show is sooooo bad."

In the end it seems to be personal preference. I watched the show for the interaction between Horo and Lawrence, not for the story-influenced economics. Yes, this includes the flirting, because I found it to be funny. Spice and Wolf, for me, is mainly a romantic story about the two and their journey, not a show about economics with a wolf.

I guess it also helps to go think about shows/movies in the usual way. We'll see that which the author thought was the most interesting thing to show, not everything that happens. Does Lawrence have other deals and doesn't fail all the time? Sure, but that doesn't need to be shown, because it's not a "real" story. Would I like to see such scenes and other interaction between Horo and Lawrence? Sure, but I enjoy the series even without them.

But I agree with triangle that the show has it's weak points when you take away the interaction between the two main characters.

Show nested quote +
On January 10 2011 16:59 Ecael wrote:
Only saving grace about S&W is that it didn't fail as badly as sola and Angel Beats.


Both are shows that I enjoyed too.

Edit: Chihiro has picked up MSMM, so for people who don't like gg subs, there is an alternative.

Both of those shows also fall under my oh-so-promising but oh-so-fail category. The fail only hurts more because of the promises.

And see, you people who only watch the anime only has to stomach a bit of the Horo-Lawrence thing, when the pattern goes on for more than 10 books without any significant change it starts to get sickening. Then throw that in with the fact that every other character introduced is just some kind of an excuse for people to get more of the same Horo-Lawrence thing...urg. Pain. I just couldn't read any more of it after a while.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-10 15:12:11
January 10 2011 15:11 GMT
#11551
EDIT - Apparently I quoted instead of edited, oops.
Thratur
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada917 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-10 16:03:15
January 10 2011 16:02 GMT
#11552
On January 10 2011 19:35 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2011 18:40 Spazer wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [LoGH 27+28] +
More characters? Sheesh.

Julian's a pilot now. So he ends up as a soldier after all... It was kinda expected though.

Mittermeyer's proposal is pretty cute. I was half expecting him to get run over by a car though.

[image loading]

PEDOPHILE

Moving Geirsberg to counter Iserlohn is an interesting strategy, but it seems incredibly wasteful. I'm surprised that Reinhard actually considers it to be a workable plan.


+ Show Spoiler +
Wasteful? Eh, maybe. Hilarious? Yes lol. Fortress vs Fortress haha. But honestly, the Fortress only had worth in the Civil War. Since the Alliance doesn't have the means to attack the Empire (and Reinhard knows it because of their very damaging Civil War), the Geisberg itself lacks any strategic value. But to take a Fortress like that and use it on Offense, against the Impregenible Iserlohn Fortress might be a way to recapture the corridor.


+ Show Spoiler +
Yeah, this plan is definitely the most hilarious one we had so far. Looking forward to it!

I really liked 27-28. We finally get to know more about a few of those 58772387462 commanders. Made me an instant Mittermeyer and Reuental fan.

WindOw
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden407 Posts
January 10 2011 16:07 GMT
#11553
Watching Monster atm, pretty damn awsome anime i have to say.
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CaffeineFree-_-
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States712 Posts
January 10 2011 17:18 GMT
#11554
Wtf Chihiro is terrible.. "Jimmy Hendrix" anyone?
We say we love flowers, yet we pluck them. We say we love trees, yet we cut them down. And people still wonder why some are afraid when told they are loved
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
January 10 2011 17:23 GMT
#11555
On January 11 2011 01:07 WindOw wrote:
Watching Monster atm, pretty damn awsome anime i have to say.

Yea it is a great anime/manga, however i was a bit confused at some parts but maybe thats just me.
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Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
January 10 2011 17:45 GMT
#11556
On January 10 2011 18:40 Spazer wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [LoGH 27+28] +
More characters? Sheesh.

Julian's a pilot now. So he ends up as a soldier after all... It was kinda expected though.

Mittermeyer's proposal is pretty cute. I was half expecting him to get run over by a car though.

[image loading]

PEDOPHILE

Moving Geirsberg to counter Iserlohn is an interesting strategy, but it seems incredibly wasteful. I'm surprised that Reinhard actually considers it to be a workable plan.



+ Show Spoiler +
Hey, I take offense to that pedophile accusation

Anyway, I don't know if this plan will work. I wonder how much damage the Thor's Hammer would do with a direct hit to Geiersburg. What kind of armaments does Geiersburg have?

I have a feeling that this will be far from the last time Iserlohn gets captured, or at least someone attempts to capture it.
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Blobskillz
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany548 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-10 20:09:36
January 10 2011 20:08 GMT
#11557
Korewa Zombie Desuka

I think the first episode was awesome. A lot of wacky humor, fights , naked loli maho shoujo , Zombies and a quiet bishoujo necromancer perfect :D
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
January 10 2011 20:12 GMT
#11558
Spring season... X-MEN lol
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CaffeineFree-_-
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States712 Posts
January 10 2011 20:17 GMT
#11559
Unicorn on March? That's not so bad. J.C. is doing Hidan no Aria. I lol'd
+ Show Spoiler +
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We say we love flowers, yet we pluck them. We say we love trees, yet we cut them down. And people still wonder why some are afraid when told they are loved
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
January 10 2011 20:39 GMT
#11560
Danboru Senki anime LOL is this before they even release the goddamn game?
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