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ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
April 28 2016 22:43 GMT
#112121
TBH there ain't a lot of money to be made except REALLY popular stuff. Most of them just not worth the trouble.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-28 23:07:07
April 28 2016 23:06 GMT
#112122
Not everyone is Type Moon and insist on whoring all its characters out to the max.
Never Knows Best.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-28 23:17:31
April 28 2016 23:14 GMT
#112123
On April 29 2016 07:31 RvB wrote:
Any reasons for popular stuff not getting extra material? Seems like kind of a no brainer to me to push out as much content as possible for popular stuff to cash in.

As far as I know most anime studios are just paid to animate without actually having a say in anything for the most part. There are exceptions (like Highschool DxD being the only thing to ever sell for TNK) but they're usually not the ones to make that decision.

You have lots of money pooled together from different interest groups who want to sell different things related to the anime to get the money back including toys, BD/DVDs, music CDs, manga/LNs for the original source and I'd just assume that it's hard to get particularly the publisher of the source material back on board quickly.
Most of the popular stuff is still selling decently after getting big in the first place so putting more money into an anime probably just doesn't make a lot of sense for them?
Or if it failed horribly in one of those aspects. Good luck having to try and convince that certain group responsible for that area to go for another season. Or anyone else who wants to take over their part of the share for that matter. The guys distributing the music CDs, or the DVDs/BDs of the anime, or the company making toys don't get anything out the increase in source material sales etc.

Totally guesswork on my side though.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-28 23:29:59
April 28 2016 23:23 GMT
#112124
all i can see is that money is made from merch and licensing after the initial humps of popularity bring in the fandom.

some characters are very easy to connect to, and some of the things factoring into that are the role they play, how they reappear throughout the show, symbolism, and last but not least a simple and limited wardrobe.
it is all really just lacking realism that we can establish tiny little differences in an otherwise stagnating character.
oh, they participated in a ninja war and got a scar over their beautiful face, and now that's what the character is about.
one meaningful scene is all it takes to paint a character as faultless which can then set us up for twists later on which will better define or mark the character in the history of the show.
then bam. fanfics, cosplay, merch, etc.
any tiny little motive or inkling/nod of desire is mirrored or scaled larger by those fans in question.

lol. i just think characters with clear roles are much easier to feel one way or another about.
and because of one's love/fandom for the show, the way they felt about that first character is propellant to feel more strongly about some of the leads.

it's hard to be entirely artistic without giving into those tropes. akb48 sells more than any other musical artist out there in japan.

my question is when are they going to create an anime about gaming or about one large game with tons of action and all that beautiful shounen stuff.
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
April 28 2016 23:29 GMT
#112125
lol, all I said was the manga is about karuta not romance. Didn't say there was no romance, but thx for laughs. Great to wake up to. I was just as surprised when looking it up to find that it wasn't listed as a genre on mal.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
April 28 2016 23:45 GMT
#112126
Well I guess they forgot to add it? Still odd considering it's popular and not exactly new. Ao no Kanata for example was listed as romance forever while had zero romance. Though in that case it was just an awful adaption apparently.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8690 Posts
April 28 2016 23:49 GMT
#112127
On April 29 2016 08:45 HolydaKing wrote:
Well I guess they forgot to add it? Still odd considering it's popular and not exactly new. Ao no Kanata for example was listed as romance forever while had zero romance. Though in that case it was just an awful adaption apparently.


Tags, especially on MAL, suck. Period.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8036 Posts
April 29 2016 01:57 GMT
#112128
Kabaneri 3 was pretty fucking awful. Everyone acts like a retard throughout the entire episode.

Shoutout to the guy who inserts random english words into his fluent japanese sentences for no apparent reason.
Liquipedia
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-29 05:15:54
April 29 2016 04:19 GMT
#112129
Madhouse better do NGNL S2 before Chihayafuru S3. Me and Toad needs this.


edit: Toad sent me a link to the anime steam sale list. I only assumed it was his subtle way of telling me to buy him something. So I got him this http://store.steampowered.com/app/379960/

Hope he enjoys it.
Skol
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-29 05:59:03
April 29 2016 05:58 GMT
#112130
On April 29 2016 13:19 Emnjay808 wrote:
Madhouse better do NGNL S2 before Chihayafuru S3. Me and Toad needs this.


edit: Toad sent me a link to the anime steam sale list. I only assumed it was his subtle way of telling me to buy him something. So I got him this http://store.steampowered.com/app/379960/

Hope he enjoys it.

ngnl can go die if it's a choice between that and chihayafuru s3.

can you also buy me something?
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
April 29 2016 06:01 GMT
#112131
On April 29 2016 10:57 Spazer wrote:
Kabaneri 3 was pretty fucking awful. Everyone acts like a retard throughout the entire episode.

Shoutout to the guy who inserts random english words into his fluent japanese sentences for no apparent reason.


Yeah all of a sudden every character in that show become insufferable within 10 mins. That takes quite some doing...
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
April 29 2016 07:04 GMT
#112132
On April 29 2016 08:49 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2016 08:45 HolydaKing wrote:
Well I guess they forgot to add it? Still odd considering it's popular and not exactly new. Ao no Kanata for example was listed as romance forever while had zero romance. Though in that case it was just an awful adaption apparently.


Tags, especially on MAL, suck. Period.


Genre tags are merely meant to catch the guy to a person looking around, they aren't meant to dive into details about the story as most stories have too many elements to really capture in one word. Take the tag "Drama" for example. Almost every story has some form of drama yet the form of drama can be radically different. Think of them more as adverts you see on lamp posts on the street.
Nezgar
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany535 Posts
April 29 2016 07:49 GMT
#112133
On April 29 2016 10:57 Spazer wrote:
Kabaneri 3 was pretty fucking awful. Everyone acts like a retard throughout the entire episode.

Shoutout to the guy who inserts random english words into his fluent japanese sentences for no apparent reason.


+ Show Spoiler [Kabaneri] +
Probably the worst thing is this whole "MC becomes special, meets someone who has been special for a while and that person does not teach him the most important part about being special right away" that has been done like a million times before.
Why is it so hard to just tell him straight away that he needs to feed on blood and how to do that? This is some cheap lazy ass fake tension/drama right there that is completely avoidable if the characters were slightly less retarded.
"Oh look, he is going to become hungry and discover his lust for blood soon, better leave him alone with the one person that is trying to defend us as well as a bunch of angry people, what could possible go wrong while I play with those children?".

Oh well, I sort of expected the show to be fairly weak in terms of writing and stuff; similar to SnK, I guess. Going to watch it for the action, not for the dialogue or characters...
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
April 29 2016 08:23 GMT
#112134
I'd take NGNL over Chihiya definitely. But I doubt they would ever do more NGNL.
Never Knows Best.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-29 09:38:02
April 29 2016 09:37 GMT
#112135
NGNL is the most blatant LN advert I've ever seen, they were so shameless with it. I mean it's just a otaku power fantasy story which we get a multitude per year but at least some of them attempt to hide the LN advertisement.

I do wonder what anime would look like without all the LN otaku power fantasy adverts. Way smaller? Dead? Guess it's like how there's 10000 CSI clones on western TV or a billion reality TV shows. Keeps the money pumping so every now and then we get some quality seeping through the cracks.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8690 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-29 12:00:10
April 29 2016 09:52 GMT
#112136
Who would need more of a show that was known for constant ass-pulls and child-porn fanservice? pls...

On April 29 2016 16:49 Nezgar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2016 10:57 Spazer wrote:
Kabaneri 3 was pretty fucking awful. Everyone acts like a retard throughout the entire episode.

Shoutout to the guy who inserts random english words into his fluent japanese sentences for no apparent reason.


+ Show Spoiler [Kabaneri] +
Probably the worst thing is this whole "MC becomes special, meets someone who has been special for a while and that person does not teach him the most important part about being special right away" that has been done like a million times before.
Why is it so hard to just tell him straight away that he needs to feed on blood and how to do that? This is some cheap lazy ass fake tension/drama right there that is completely avoidable if the characters were slightly less retarded.
"Oh look, he is going to become hungry and discover his lust for blood soon, better leave him alone with the one person that is trying to defend us as well as a bunch of angry people, what could possible go wrong while I play with those children?".

Oh well, I sort of expected the show to be fairly weak in terms of writing and stuff; similar to SnK, I guess. Going to watch it for the action, not for the dialogue or characters...


+ Show Spoiler +
I agree, so stupid. But they needed something to make a cliffhanger! God I hate cliffhangers. One of the cheapest tricks to keep people watching...
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
April 29 2016 11:57 GMT
#112137
speaking of child-porn fanservice... I apparently was gifted "Mahjong Pretty Girls Battle: School Days Edition" by Emnjay on Steam! (and I found Nekopara vol0 on there while browsing which is how I got to child-porn fanservice) Thanks I guess?
[13:56:14] <Elem> "*This game is an authentic Mahjong game. (No undressing or nudity is included in the game.) "
gg, dreams were shattered

In case people haven't realized, Steam has an anime weekend-sale atm with lots of anime related titles being lots cheaper. Hyper Dimension Neptunia (the first one) is at -70%, so 8,39€ right now as an example.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Makenshi
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden2105 Posts
April 29 2016 13:10 GMT
#112138
on the kabaneri thing + Show Spoiler +
i assume she didn't think he'd get stabbed during the 5 minutes she went away to do other things, probably the blood loss that.. 'made him hungry'


and i wish Lovepon was in the chihayafuru universe so she could execute justice on taichi.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8690 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-29 13:47:40
April 29 2016 13:44 GMT
#112139
Nice bait, I'll follow up on it. I wish Makenshi was part of the Mayoiga universe. He would fit in perfectly with all the insane characters.

On another note: I started Kino no Tabi. Ep0 was decent but ep1 was absolutely amazing. I feel like this is going to be great ride.

+ Show Spoiler +
The sense of adventure, discovering something new, especially those weird sci-fi/fantasy like places - I love that. And then they even picked up a very interesting topic: Not understanding each other as the source of pain in this world. I liked how they approached this. Simple thought reading isn't going to help the problem, it makes it worse. People need to bring in effort by themselves to try and understand people and get their message through. Not only by words but by actions. Understanding a person has nothing to do with knowing teir thoughts but with actually actively understanding why they think or feel that way. Man that was beautiful.


It's also a little bit ironic because we just talked about serious, episodic shows. This seems to be exactly that. An episodic show that thrives on adventure, exploring, the taste of something new, conversations with strange people and their believes, philosphy etc. instead of an over-arcing plot.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-29 15:19:02
April 29 2016 15:17 GMT
#112140
On April 29 2016 22:10 Makenshi wrote:
on the kabaneri thing + Show Spoiler +
i assume she didn't think he'd get stabbed during the 5 minutes she went away to do other things, probably the blood loss that.. 'made him hungry'


+ Show Spoiler +
Agreed, I didn't mind it that much. Even though it's funny that they both are "hungry" at the same time.

But I agree that the characters are pretty awful... Well, Shingeki no Kyojin was the same in that regard and it still was fairly entertaining. So far this is true for Kabaneri as well.
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