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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
February 11 2016 19:08 GMT
#110541
On February 12 2016 04:04 Slaughter wrote:
Innocent? Pretty sure it was stated she mostly targets evil humans and of course soldiers of DEM. Its not like she goes around See human kill human. She isn't a sociopath....go look up that word and see what it means.

A lot of people wouldn't particularly mind her methods since the end result is none of it ever happening and all the previous bad things independent of her also never happened (saving millions of lives?)

I am not even a Kurumi fan lol, but your characterization of her is annoying.


It's weird reading this after watching Death Parade have a Cop do the exact thing yet that show showed how psychopathic the person really was.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-11 19:11:31
February 11 2016 19:11 GMT
#110542
On February 12 2016 04:07 tonight wrote:
TLADT, I've missed you. This is some good stuff here.

I have to agree 100% with Sent. She has no redeeming qualities. Fiction or not I can't empathize with a serial killer. The end will almost never justify the means.

Also, what would a real life "C" equate to in anime boob size?

insanity IS a redeeming quality. it's a major selling point for a lot of characters.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-11 19:16:50
February 11 2016 19:14 GMT
#110543
On February 12 2016 03:53 Sentenal wrote:
Yeah, its pretty cut and dry about the reasons to hate her. Shes not good deep down. And even if she did have noble end goals, since her means involve murdering innocent people in cold blood (which she also takes pleasure in), it still doesn't change the fact that shes an evil sociopath. She's even worse than the mecha musume, who somehow managed to be one of the worst girls in that show, which shouldn't be possible under normal circumstances.

Anyone who agrees with her, like legitimately thinks shes doing a good thing, or doing something permissible, or "if this was IRL, I could totally see that as being something acceptable to do", is insane.

Show nested quote +
On February 12 2016 03:48 A German wrote:
On February 12 2016 03:42 Unleashing wrote:
On February 12 2016 03:37 Numy wrote:
On February 12 2016 03:35 Unleashing wrote:
On February 12 2016 03:23 Slaughter wrote:
On February 12 2016 03:10 Unleashing wrote:
On February 12 2016 03:07 Toadesstern wrote:
I think I'm going to change ships here after having googled
"date a life" sun lotion

I also have come to the conclusion that I probably can't post that stuff in here even if it's taken directly from the anime and not weird doujinshi or anything like that.
Just saying.

I can't even remember what was so bad about those two twins so can't be as bad as the other 4

They were criminally bland.


Best in series though~ Touka and Natsumi (in her adult mode) were the closest to the sisters. Miku was ok too.

Don't get the hate for Kurumi really.

You don't get why people might dislike a sociopathic murderer


Well I love Shiki although she isn't a murder she's still kind of mentally unstable so it's not too far a stretch to see someone digging someone completely insane like Kurumi.

Shiki is different though.
+ Show Spoiler +
It wasn't technically her killing anyone except for that guy in the last movie, which isn't really being a sociopath but more so killing someone absolutely insane in self defense/to protect someone you care about.


On February 12 2016 03:42 Slaughter wrote:
She isn't a sociopath. She doesn't kill for no reason. She has a goal, one that would change that series's whole universe (for the better). Yea she is jaded af from her experiences and is going for more of a ends justify the means way but w/e that is her role. The only actual monsters in the show are Ellen and her boss.

>Kills innocent people
>BUT IT'S FOR THE GREATER GOOD, REALLY

Nah, sorry, not buying it. She's a sociopathic serial killer.

Should we get history in this and start discussing WW2 stuff that people defend as totally okay things? Naaaaah, better go shopping brb~

r u 4 rela

I mean you either end up with
1) Yes there are times when it's okay or
2) Yes there are lots of people who think that's okay at times

Hell, right now you guys have lots of people arguing that torture really is acceptable when you have to. I mean I agree with you in the end but didn't want to spell it out for exactly the reason you changed my name.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-11 19:23:48
February 11 2016 19:21 GMT
#110544
Completely setting aside any overarching goal she might have wanted to ultimately achieve (which I don't remember) that may or may not be justifiable (which I'm not going to get into), I'm sure most people would agree that killing people because you want to eat them, or killing them because you don't like them, are not justifiable reasons for murder. And she certainly killed people for those reasons.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 11 2016 19:22 GMT
#110545
Most noticeable activity on TLADT in a while and it's about DAL.
sugoi TLADT.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 11 2016 19:29 GMT
#110546
On February 12 2016 04:21 Sentenal wrote:
Completely setting aside any overarching goal she might have wanted to ultimately achieve (which I don't remember) that may or may not be justifiable (which I'm not going to get into), I'm sure most people would agree that killing people because you want to eat them, or killing them because you don't like them, are not justifiable reasons for murder. And she certainly killed people for those reasons.

And just like you I didn't try to get into that either because frankly I can't remember either what it was specifically. And again, it's fiction. There's tons of people who like crazy girls/people because they can be entertaining. I don't really see the problem here.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
February 11 2016 19:31 GMT
#110547
It's the subject matter, not the show.

If you take the conversation outside the realm of the show it gets a little more serious, but keeping it with in DAL. Bitch be off the chain crazy.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
February 11 2016 19:32 GMT
#110548
Liking a villain for being a villain is different from empathizing and liking a character as a person. Loving to hate someone is different than just loving them lol. I like Gauron in FMP because hes an insane murderous sociopath and a good villain, but think hes a terrible person.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
February 11 2016 19:33 GMT
#110549
On February 12 2016 04:22 NeoIllusions wrote:
Most noticeable activity on TLADT in a while and it's about DAL.
sugoi TLADT.

I hate it when that happens and I don't know the show. ^^
IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
February 11 2016 19:37 GMT
#110550
On February 12 2016 04:22 NeoIllusions wrote:
Most noticeable activity on TLADT in a while and it's about DAL.
sugoi TLADT.

LN truly the superior medium
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-11 19:40:49
February 11 2016 19:40 GMT
#110551
On February 12 2016 04:32 Sentenal wrote:
Liking a villain for being a villain is different from empathizing and liking a character as a person. Loving to hate someone is different than just loving them lol. I like Gauron in FMP because hes an insane murderous sociopath and a good villain, but think hes a terrible person.

Noone said anything like that though?

I said I'm liking her oppai and that's all there is to it.
Slaughter said he's not a fan of her but admitted that there are people who don't hate her for that. I agree if this wasn't fiction it gets creepy but gosh, it's a show about animated tits. I highly doubt people are contemplating about life while watching this.
Don't take it so seriously
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-11 19:53:49
February 11 2016 19:52 GMT
#110552
On February 12 2016 04:40 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2016 04:32 Sentenal wrote:
Liking a villain for being a villain is different from empathizing and liking a character as a person. Loving to hate someone is different than just loving them lol. I like Gauron in FMP because hes an insane murderous sociopath and a good villain, but think hes a terrible person.

Noone said anything like that though?

I said I'm liking her oppai and that's all there is to it.
Slaughter said he's not a fan of her but admitted that there are people who don't hate her for that. I agree if this wasn't fiction it gets creepy but gosh, it's a show about animated tits. I highly doubt people are contemplating about life while watching this.
Don't take it so seriously

This sounds like a lot of damage control and goal post moving to me, but whatever.

Also, you like low quality Oppai. There are plenty quality oppai out there. They just aren't in DAL.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-11 19:58:22
February 11 2016 19:57 GMT
#110553
how is it damage control when it's LITERALLY what has been in this thread for the last 3 pages and you just exaggerated or made up some shit on why other people like her.

On February 12 2016 00:28 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2016 23:37 Sentenal wrote:
"The only thing that mattered in the show was a remorseless serial killer, cuz I think she kawaii"

show was shit but credit where credit is due: she was pretty hot

There literally was nothing else noteworthy about the show so what's the point talking about that when we can all agree that <insert WHATEVER> was indeed shit
[...]
On February 12 2016 02:15 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2016 01:43 tonight wrote:
You guys are the worst

I mean it's between
  • a serial killer with kinda nice tits
  • [...]

It really is just a pick your poison situation. [...]
On February 12 2016 02:34 Toadesstern wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [pic, bikini/NSFW] +
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]


The last one looks awful as a figure but it kinda makes the point

Speaking of which, since I wasted a post for this anyways, for numy: + Show Spoiler [shinobu] +
[image loading]

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=55173368&from_sid=1550991908
On February 12 2016 03:41 Toadesstern wrote:
It's fiction. I don't think anyone who likes her is dreaming about waking up next to her. They just look at her and kinda go "damn, niiiiice" and that's about it.

[...]

I sersiously don't even know what you're smoking right now to misunderstand that as liking her as a person.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
February 11 2016 19:59 GMT
#110554
You aren't the only person on your side of the court.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8633 Posts
February 11 2016 20:09 GMT
#110555
2 hours of me being away and 50 new posts, wadafak?

On February 12 2016 04:33 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2016 04:22 NeoIllusions wrote:
Most noticeable activity on TLADT in a while and it's about DAL.
sugoi TLADT.

I hate it when that happens and I don't know the show. ^^


Exactly my thoughts lol.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
February 11 2016 20:17 GMT
#110556
Kurumi's goal is to literally prevent the whole spirit thing and negate everything that has happened in the show and its history. Including the catastrophes that killed millions of people and all the atrocities that DEM has done (not to mention it would negate all her own actions). She doesn't eat people out of boredom, it is how she fuels her power and she needs energy to go back in time to accomplish her goal of changing the timeline to where none of the bad shit happened.

No she doesn't fit the profile for a sociopath because she actually has the things that they lack (albeit in a twisted way). She has psychopathic tendencies. My whole argument is that you are simplifying her character by taking like 2 of her qualities then throwing everything else about her out then calling her just a crazy evil bitch.
Never Knows Best.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
February 11 2016 20:22 GMT
#110557
Slaughter, have you ever played Chrono Cross?
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
February 11 2016 20:24 GMT
#110558
Yep a long time ago.
Never Knows Best.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-11 20:39:47
February 11 2016 20:38 GMT
#110559
You remember what happened in that game with shit like the Sea of Eden and the Dead Sea? Going back in time to change something that would save a lot of lives sure sounds nice on the surface, but what about the people in the present? What about all the people who have been lived, born, and died since the 30 years or whatever happened? Or the people yet to come? They are all most certainly alive, but if someone goes back in time and changes something, they no longer exist anymore. She's essentially killing an exponentially greater number than what she'd be saving. She wants to perform the biggest and most widescale late-term/after-birth abortion of all time.

Also, I'm pretty sure she a personality disorder, extreme antisocial attitudes and behavior, and a lack of conscience.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-11 20:42:33
February 11 2016 20:42 GMT
#110560
this post needs to be quoted in the US politics thread when and if they talk about abortions in any comming political debate.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
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