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Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
December 30 2010 20:18 GMT
#10881
The animation in Gundam UC is mind-blowing O_O

And Gheizen, give Clannad a chance. :D
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
HitoriTomoyo
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada264 Posts
December 30 2010 20:22 GMT
#10882
On December 30 2010 14:46 Ferrose wrote:
TWGOK 80:

+ Show Spoiler +
So now they have to search for runaway spirits AND goddesses? This is interesting. Though I guess it's nice that some old girls will reappear.


+ Show Spoiler +
For certain girls, it's basically their second re-appearance only (+ Show Spoiler +
Shiori primarily
). =p It gets pretty interesting as it goes further into the Goddess arc, but if there's one large flaw in KamiNomi, it would have to be its unnecessarily slow development rate, which practically tripled ever since the Goddess arc started; it IS going somewhere but it's taking its sweet time right now -3-.


OT: I'll agree that CLANNAD is somewhat cliche at times, but when it comes to delivering quality scenes and stories, very few series in the same genre come close to matching CLANNAD/the KEY trinity as a whole (what's up with the lack of love for AIR?).

Fundamentally, CLANNAD is just another slice-of-life series with a bit of fantasy elements incorporated, but at least it makes great use of its fantasy attributes, particularly in After Story; while there will be a lot of rather common sights in the series, CLANNAD outstrips a lot of other slice-of-life series by not only delivering a heart-warming plot but also balancing out somewhat believable character development, especially for side characters that would normally just be cast aside to focus on a subpar development for the main protagonists.

Oh and its OST is amazing; Maeda has amazing OST talents.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
December 30 2010 20:29 GMT
#10883
On December 31 2010 05:22 HitoriTomoyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2010 14:46 Ferrose wrote:
TWGOK 80:

+ Show Spoiler +
So now they have to search for runaway spirits AND goddesses? This is interesting. Though I guess it's nice that some old girls will reappear.


+ Show Spoiler +
For certain girls, it's basically their second re-appearance only (+ Show Spoiler +
Shiori primarily
). =p It gets pretty interesting as it goes further into the Goddess arc, but if there's one large flaw in KamiNomi, it would have to be its unnecessarily slow development rate, which practically tripled ever since the Goddess arc started; it IS going somewhere but it's taking its sweet time right now -3-.


OT: I'll agree that CLANNAD is somewhat cliche at times, but when it comes to delivering quality scenes and stories, very few series in the same genre come close to matching CLANNAD/the KEY trinity as a whole (what's up with the lack of love for AIR?).

Fundamentally, CLANNAD is just another slice-of-life series with a bit of fantasy elements incorporated, but at least it makes great use of its fantasy attributes, particularly in After Story; while there will be a lot of rather common sights in the series, CLANNAD outstrips a lot of other slice-of-life series by not only delivering a heart-warming plot but also balancing out somewhat believable character development, especially for side characters that would normally just be cast aside to focus on a subpar development for the main protagonists.

Oh and its OST is amazing; Maeda has amazing OST talents.


+ Show Spoiler +
That's the only reason that Shiori comes back? I thought she was one of the better girls ;_;


The side characters was one of the things that made Clannad even better IMO. Like Nagisa's parents and Sunohara's sister.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
HitoriTomoyo
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada264 Posts
December 30 2010 20:41 GMT
#10884
On December 31 2010 05:29 Ferrose wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
That's the only reason that Shiori comes back? I thought she was one of the better girls ;_;


The side characters was one of the things that made Clannad even better IMO. Like Nagisa's parents and Sunohara's sister.


+ Show Spoiler +
It's being heavily implied that Shiori MIGHT have a Goddess within her despite her brief re-appearance, the evidence being primarily based around the link between Kanon and Apollo: one of Apollo's primary attributes revolves around music and, being an idol, Kanon's life revolves around music. Since Minerva, one of the Goddesses' mentioned by Diana, is attributed to the general concept of Knowledge, it's speculated that Shiori might be the host of Minerva given her superhuman memorization of the school library and the information contents within.


After Story brought a lot of spotlight on the side characters; Yukine and Sunohara's arcs were arguably a lot better than the mess that was supposed to be + Show Spoiler +
the end result of trying to mix Kyou/Ryou and Tomoyo's arc into a single arc, similar to the Ayuki arc in Kanon
; their arcs, especially Yukine's rocketed them up in my favourites list and it's no wonder + Show Spoiler +
that Yukine was originally supposed to be one of the main heroines of CLANNAD: her story is really engaging, on par with Tomoyo's arc and even Nagisa's arc.
shadesofkarma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Romania708 Posts
December 30 2010 20:53 GMT
#10885
On December 31 2010 05:03 Gheizen64 wrote:
Can't go on past episode 2 in Clannad... the characters and the situations all appear so stereotyped, the main guy already spoke with 3000 differents girl (who already like him for no reasons except the fact he's the main) and the art is absolutely totally plain.

Not to say the mistery chick making random claims for hype reasons. God if i hate this show, it will be hard to go past episode 2 ;_;

Trying to go on episode 3 right now.


You probably don't like romcoms as a genre. Stop watching Clannad and pick up something that you probably would like more.
Thratur
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada917 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-30 21:39:19
December 30 2010 21:00 GMT
#10886
December 31st has come in TL time, and it is now time to look back and think about the year that just passed. I haven't checked if there are still some anime yet to be fully broadcasted this season, but all the ones I've watched are now over.

Hence, it's about time for Thratur's 2010 top 5 ranking! I used this list to remind me what I watched from this year http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Anime_of_2010, but I do not think anything is missing. Please note that this ranking is merely my opinion as a watcher and is completely biased. I also didn't watch everything this year, obviously. I invite you to do the same if you dare!

5. Angel beats!

Spring season started strong with a fresh new story from the creators of Air, Kanon and Clannad : KEY. With Angel Beats, we get a whole new set of characters, probably too much for a mere 13 episodes anime, but all of them were well-designed, even though we didn't get the chance to learn about all of their past. From the setting of Angel Beats!, we can guess that they all carry a sad past, and this is confirmed by the few characters we actually learn the past. Yurippe's childhood touched me. Otonashi's determination made me cry. Yui's condition made me feel bad. We also had the awesome TK, the lovely Tenshi and Christ, of course. Just see how cute Tenshi is.
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Aside from the great characters, Angel Beats had a very short, action-packed story, filled with humour and thoughts here and there. I would have loved it to be a 26 episodes season. There are so many stuff that could have been studied further. I personally appreciated a lot this imaginary world where everything you wish can just appear, i.e. Tenshi's powers or the SSS' weapons. I see that a lot of thinking has been put in this small school-world, whose purpose is still unclear.
It also had the best OP of the year.

I'll always remember Mystlord's rant on this show, but I have to agree that they are perfectly justified.

4. Durarara!!

The first thing Durarara reminded me when I watched it was Baccano!. And damn Baccano! is awesome. Just like it, Durarara! focuses on many different characters with completely different goals and characteristics. It would be hard to choose some main characters in this lot, even though that's probably still possible. Mikado and Celty definitely stands out. I just loved the idea of a sexy headless rider. Of course, she had a complicated past, and while I didn't read the light novels, I can tell that she would have an important role in the future.
And who didn't hate this guy?
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Izaya is probably the most-annoying "villain" I've ever met. I would love to see him get punched by Shizuo. But that's exactly why he's a good villain. While he is annoying, I believe he's up to the task of creating a huge mess. And that's exactly what we want.
But enough talk about the characters. Durarara!! deserves this spot because it has a thrilling story. I didn't see coming at all the end of the first arc. And Shinra surprised me quite a lot there. The second arc was not as good, but it looks like it set everything up for something greater.
I look forward to a second season.

3. The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya
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Released on February 6, I had to wait, tempted by an horrible camrip until December 18th before watching this. It was definitely worth the wait. Long haired Haruhi? Yuki having a crush on Kyon? Seriously?
[image loading]
As usual, the Haruhi universe disturbs me. I may have about 20 theories on this shit. None makes sense, of course. Disappearance helped me clean that up a bit. The movie starts slowly on some everyday nonsense with Haruhi organizing some kind of Christmas party. Very fast, it spirals into a situation that we are all affraid of : what if you wakes up someday and something changed and noone believes you? Of course, Haruhi would believe you. But she disappeared.
Quality was sublime. Music was awesome. Realisation was incredible. I still rethink about that scene when Kyon talks to himself towards the end, and this is arguably the best scene in the entire movie. I really don't know what to add here. The movie was well done. Concept was great. Watch it.

2. The legend of the legendary heroes.

A main character more powerful than any other wizard in this world, but who hates to do anything but sleep. Instant win. A tortured king who wants to create a better world for everyone. An annoying girl who eats dangos all the time. And many more. The legend of the legendary heroes is set in an universe where a lot of stuff is happening that the common people should probably not know about.
This guy is dangerous.
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In the end, it's a story about who is the most powerful, basically. But with very good special effects and sounds. There's even some Starcraft in it!

We may criticize a bit of filler here and there, but it was definitely worth it for the bigger story.
It also had the best ED of the year.


1. Shiki

A vampire story. Well, almost. They drink blood like vampires. They can't go out at day. They transform people they feed on in vampires. And, less importantly, they can't enter your house if they're not invited. But they're not exactly vampires.
But that's not what made Shiki so good. It starts slowly. Very slowly. So slow that you wonder when the hell is something going to happen. But during this time, you get a feel of the characters. You get to know most of them very, very well. You get to meet the doctor of the village, Ozaki, and understand his frustration as more and more people in the village die. Characters die at an alarmous rate. And then it all blows up.
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Some characters go crazy. A LOT die. There was more blood in this than in anything I've ever watched. Murder. Betrayal. Mistake. Suicide. You get it all.
Realisation was perfect. The slow progression from introduction into action did wonders. And this is why it deserves my #1 spot.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
December 30 2010 21:01 GMT
#10887
On December 31 2010 05:41 HitoriTomoyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2010 05:29 Ferrose wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
That's the only reason that Shiori comes back? I thought she was one of the better girls ;_;


The side characters was one of the things that made Clannad even better IMO. Like Nagisa's parents and Sunohara's sister.


+ Show Spoiler +
It's being heavily implied that Shiori MIGHT have a Goddess within her despite her brief re-appearance, the evidence being primarily based around the link between Kanon and Apollo: one of Apollo's primary attributes revolves around music and, being an idol, Kanon's life revolves around music. Since Minerva, one of the Goddesses' mentioned by Diana, is attributed to the general concept of Knowledge, it's speculated that Shiori might be the host of Minerva given her superhuman memorization of the school library and the information contents within.


After Story brought a lot of spotlight on the side characters; Yukine and Sunohara's arcs were arguably a lot better than the mess that was supposed to be + Show Spoiler +
the end result of trying to mix Kyou/Ryou and Tomoyo's arc into a single arc, similar to the Ayuki arc in Kanon
; their arcs, especially Yukine's rocketed them up in my favourites list and it's no wonder + Show Spoiler +
that Yukine was originally supposed to be one of the main heroines of CLANNAD: her story is really engaging, on par with Tomoyo's arc and even Nagisa's arc.


Hmm. I feel like reading on. I'm nearly caught up.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
DarthXX
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia998 Posts
December 30 2010 21:09 GMT
#10888
The Starcraft sound ur thinking of in Legend of Legendary Heroes occurs a few times. Its virtually identical to the start up sound of SCBW, this resulted in a few awkward situations where I'd yell at my brother to turn down his volume if he insists on playing with no headphones. Only then did I realise it actually came from Denyuden.
Thratur
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada917 Posts
December 30 2010 21:19 GMT
#10889
Found it and updated
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-30 21:22:55
December 30 2010 21:21 GMT
#10890
Damn, ep one of Gundam Unicorn was awesome. And ep two is almost downloaded
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
xbankx
Profile Joined July 2010
703 Posts
December 30 2010 21:23 GMT
#10891
On December 31 2010 06:21 Ferrose wrote:
Damn, ep one of Gundam Unicorn was awesome. And ep two is almost downloaded


why not just watch it on one of those anime-stream sites.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
December 30 2010 21:36 GMT
#10892
Where's the love for Katanagatari? :D
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-30 21:52:09
December 30 2010 21:47 GMT
#10893
IMO, Shinryaku! Ika Musume is the anime of the year.

Y'all just a buncha haters.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8036 Posts
December 30 2010 22:02 GMT
#10894
Thratur, I'd agree with your ranking for the most part, but I wouldn't have put Angel Beats as #5. But hey, opinions.

On December 31 2010 06:23 xbankx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2010 06:21 Ferrose wrote:
Damn, ep one of Gundam Unicorn was awesome. And ep two is almost downloaded


why not just watch it on one of those anime-stream sites.

You serious? The only way to appreciate the godly animation for this show is in 1080p. I have never seen a single streaming site that had bearable quality.


Also:
http://www.starchild.co.jp/special/kenpu/new/
I knew it was coming, but still... LOL

Truthfully, I'll probably still watch it. =/
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Thratur
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada917 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-30 22:38:17
December 30 2010 22:07 GMT
#10895
I put Angel Beats as #5 because I think it was overcriticized but I understand the opinion of people on that show. However, what would be your ranking then Spazer?

Edit : LOL A KAMPFER SEQUEL
xbankx
Profile Joined July 2010
703 Posts
December 30 2010 22:28 GMT
#10896
On December 31 2010 07:02 Spazer wrote:
Thratur, I'd agree with your ranking for the most part, but I wouldn't have put Angel Beats as #5. But hey, opinions.

Show nested quote +
On December 31 2010 06:23 xbankx wrote:
On December 31 2010 06:21 Ferrose wrote:
Damn, ep one of Gundam Unicorn was awesome. And ep two is almost downloaded


why not just watch it on one of those anime-stream sites.

You serious? The only way to appreciate the godly animation for this show is in 1080p. I have never seen a single streaming site that had bearable quality.


Also:
http://www.starchild.co.jp/special/kenpu/new/
I knew it was coming, but still... LOL

Truthfully, I'll probably still watch it. =/



Im not a huge "animation" guy since I purely focus on storyline and somewhat on drawing style..
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-30 23:04:39
December 30 2010 23:03 GMT
#10897
On December 31 2010 05:03 Gheizen64 wrote:
Can't go on past episode 2 in Clannad... the characters and the situations all appear so stereotyped, the main guy already spoke with 3000 differents girl (who already like him for no reasons except the fact he's the main) and the art is absolutely totally plain.

Not to say the mistery chick making random claims for hype reasons. God if i hate this show, it will be hard to go past episode 2 ;_;

Trying to go on episode 3 right now.

Those were my exact feelings when I tried to watch Clannad, and now it is indefinitely on hold after the first couple of episodes.

On December 31 2010 05:05 Gheizen64 wrote:
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On December 30 2010 11:56 triangle wrote:
On December 30 2010 11:46 Imbajoe wrote:
On December 30 2010 11:41 holdthephone wrote:
since i'm done with toradora, i'm looking for something that's as good as it but with a better ending...

thoughts?


Have you seen Clannad? They are both romcom, and from what I've seen, people who enjoy one generally enjoy the other.

School days has a better ending. :p

Also, I'm not sure if you want to be watching to highschool romcoms back to back. Generally I dislike watching similar shows right next to each other.


School days has the best ending of every anime ever.


Berserk (anime) had a better ending.

On December 31 2010 06:23 xbankx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2010 06:21 Ferrose wrote:
Damn, ep one of Gundam Unicorn was awesome. And ep two is almost downloaded


why not just watch it on one of those anime-stream sites.

Watching something as amazingly animated as Gundam Unicorn on a streaming site is a travasty, how dare you even suggest it.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Naphal
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-30 23:11:30
December 30 2010 23:10 GMT
#10898
berserk2 announced is bigger than anything else 2010 ^.<

http://www.younganimal.com/berserk/cm/index.html

click swords for tiny videos
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
December 31 2010 00:05 GMT
#10899
I just watched Angel Beats Special episode with utw's 1080p release. So nostalgic, and hilarious as usual. I was laughing the whole time.
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8036 Posts
December 31 2010 00:13 GMT
#10900
On December 31 2010 07:07 Thratur wrote:
I put Angel Beats as #5 because I think it was overcriticized but I understand the opinion of people on that show. However, what would be your ranking then Spazer?

Edit : LOL A KAMPFER SEQUEL

Angel Beats was so rushed that I didn't really enjoy it that much. It was an okay show, but I don't think it h

My top five would probably be something like:
Disappearance because it's a legitimately good adaptation of the book, and actually managed to improve it, imo.
DenYuuDen would have been first, but, well, dango. Also not enough appearances by Kiefer and Tiir.
Bungaku Shoujo was pretty good.
Cat Shit One because it's awesome and actually realistic.

And one of the following:
Durarara. Too bad the second half sucked.
Tatami Galaxy. Beginning was good, middle was kinda boring, but the end was excellent.
Working. Decent comedy.
Eve no Jikan movie. Decent compilation movie. The extra scenes were nice to have as well.

Gundam Unicorn doesn't get a spot because it's taking so damn long for episodes to get released. And Break Blade isn't at the good parts yet.

I didn't watch Shiki because the pacing at the start was slowwww. Maybe I'll pick up the manga sometime though.
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