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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-11 05:36:59
July 11 2015 05:35 GMT
#102321
On July 11 2015 14:26 ragz_gt wrote:
Less AZ is a good thing, who cares what other drama they could cram into that hunk of mess.


It's kind of interesting to be honest.

Often the anime fans complain about contrived sequels (*cough* Gundam SEED Desinty *cough*) where things get randomly made up; but for A/Z I think it's quite the opposite: the writers were probably overachievers who wrote too much material/characters (see my Klankain and Mazuurek discussion above on why they could have been the same character) for the franchises and most of these probably ended up getting dropped, leaving (IMO) a very unsatisfactory ending.

On July 11 2015 14:33 IceHism wrote:
I wish AZ would just lay in its grave silently. Not the worst thing I've seen but there wasn't anything to really praise about it



I personally think AZ would have been a lot better if it had another 12 episodes.
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44236 Posts
July 11 2015 05:43 GMT
#102322
not even Hime-sama can save a/z
this is a quote
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 11 2015 05:48 GMT
#102323
On July 11 2015 14:43 goody153 wrote:
not even Hime-sama can save a/z


Asseylum isn't a well-developed character in A/Z. I think there just wasn't enough room to fit all of these characters into 24 episodes.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50604 Posts
July 11 2015 06:15 GMT
#102324
On July 11 2015 14:43 goody153 wrote:
not even Hime-sama can save a/z


lolgoody
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
July 11 2015 06:41 GMT
#102325
did you betray your hime goody or was that toad

I don't even remember

Symphogear subs fucking when tho
WriterXiao8~~
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2015 06:44 GMT
#102326
I never watched a/z.

The only hime worth a damn is LH hime
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
July 11 2015 07:13 GMT
#102327
On July 11 2015 12:26 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 11:14 Sentenal wrote:
On July 11 2015 09:06 Sufficiency wrote:
On July 11 2015 09:02 Sentenal wrote:
A few things. Aldnoah Zero was always planned for 2 seasons. Urobuchi Gen only came up with the concept and draft, and maybe wrote a few episodes, but he did not direct or write the series as a whole. His initial idea for Aldnoah Zero was much different from how the series actually played out. For instance, + Show Spoiler +
Urobuchi's original draft had Inaho and Asseylum eloping together, rather than getting shot to death but not really.
Honestly, none of that stuff is enough to really warrant another season. What else is there to even do in the story?


I just listed some of the things that can be done. In fact, there is still a vast amount of unexplored Vers Empire and it's going to be so easy to create a few new antagonists.

So what you want is more stuff in that universe. Okay, fine. But the story Aldnoah Zero s1 and s2 told are pretty much done. What more can they do with the actual story? + Show Spoiler +
Mars and Earth are at peace, Mars is sharing their OP plotdevices. Slaine is firmly in the dumpster, and Inaho is now Big Boss. Most everything is resolved.
What are they gonna do, have Earth launch some covert terrorist attacks, that leads to another war 2 years later, to rehash all the same things they have already done? Trust me, you don't want an Aldnoah Zero Destiny. But even then, that would be starting a new story, not continuing the old one.

And honestly, what more is there to know about Heaven's Fall and what Aldnoah is, anyway?


There is tons to say about Aldnoah.

+ Show Spoiler +

One thing that was constantly being mentioned in Season 2 was how Aldnoah could only be activated by the Royal family - which shaped the feudal system for Vers Empire. There was even a bit of Clausewitz/1984 there about why Vers was looking for war.

One crucial factor that would shake up the system would be Inaho, who somehow was able to activate the Aldnoah Drive. The show itself mentions blood as the vector, but I actually think it might be the kisses. Since Slaine kissed both Asselym and Lemrina, can Slaine activate Aldnoah Drive?

So no, this is not going to be Aldnoah Zero Destiny. There are so much stuff that hasn't been developed yet. In fact, if the current form of A/Z is the end of the story, then the following characters were not needed for the show and shouldn't have been included:

Inko
Lemrina
Klancain
Mazuurek

The fact that these characters are in the show and have not been killed off suggests to me that the writer of the show has more things in mind.

Wat? + Show Spoiler +
We saw that mouth-to-mouth lets someone active Aldnoah shit.
Now all the sudden they need 12 more episodes to develop that or something? Why not read wikipedia for your questions about Aldnoah, its quicker than waiting for another season that will never happe? I'm pretty sure there is an Aldnoah Zero wiki out there just waiting for you.

And since when does a show need to have ALL of its characters be relevant and important? Irrelevant supporting characters existing doesn't mean they planned for more episodes. Or wanted to make them relevant.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8625 Posts
July 11 2015 07:56 GMT
#102328
Do we really have a long discussion about A/Z with someone claiming that it needs another season to explain the abysmal writing in the two previous seasons? What's the point? Unless they up the writing quality by a lot, you would be left with as many questions as you were after s2. S2 just had so many plotholes, asspulls and generally continuous weak writing that causes the questions you have. Do you really think that will be better after a s3 with the same quality? I don't.

On July 11 2015 11:52 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I don't want more A/Z


.
ShurykaN
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States338 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-11 08:35:54
July 11 2015 08:33 GMT
#102329
On July 11 2015 14:05 Toadesstern wrote:
so watched a couple more. Gate continues to impress. Not really all that amazing but very refreshing for me with the military that's just plain normal military mixed together with fantasy.

And finally got around watching Gakkou Gursashi first episode. That was the thing I was looking forward the most this season as the synopsis really made me think it's 100% my kind of show. And it didn't disappoint. Really liked the first epiode, probably the best ep-1 I've seen this season so far by a long shot. Let's just hope it continues to carry this hard :3

So with that I've got Gakkou Gurashi, Gate and Prisma Ilya going for me as well as a couple mediocre shows. Still got a bunch of ep1's to check out but I'm already happy to have found something.


+ Show Spoiler [gate] +
Gate: I like how it's showing the political side of things. I don't buy the USA deciding not to intervene though. If there was a threat of anotherworldly invasion the USA would be the first country to jump on to that. Also Japan should probably want their aid because the US has like over 10x the military power. I would imagine that there would be at least some joint forces sent from the UN.

On the fantasy world side of things, it's interesting how the emperor guy uses the war to get rid of his potential rivals and claim power for himself. I don't get why they wouldn't retreat after half of their army already got wiped out though. The daughter of the emperor looks like she might do something, hopefully she realizes that her dad is an evil dictator lol


+ Show Spoiler [Gakkou Gurashi] +
I went into this completely blind and I was laughing for like 5 minutes after the zombie apocalypse got revealed. I wonder how long their food supply will last


+ Show Spoiler [Overlord] +
I ended up reading up to volume 2 of the light novels after I saw the first ep, whoever described this as an evil Log Horizon before was spot on.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8625 Posts
July 11 2015 08:46 GMT
#102330
On July 11 2015 00:37 HolydaKing wrote:
Ushio to Tora EP 2 was pretty enjoyable, I like this one. + Show Spoiler +
Ushio and Tora look like they'll make for a fun team. Asako looks like a good tsundere.



+ Show Spoiler +
Just watched ep and have to agree. Ushio and Tora are such a fun team. Tora's reactions to the tv were hilarious.

Before the season this show was low on my priority list but now it's actually one of my favourites. :o
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-11 09:06:41
July 11 2015 08:56 GMT
#102331
On July 11 2015 17:33 ShurykaN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 14:05 Toadesstern wrote:
so watched a couple more. Gate continues to impress. Not really all that amazing but very refreshing for me with the military that's just plain normal military mixed together with fantasy.

And finally got around watching Gakkou Gursashi first episode. That was the thing I was looking forward the most this season as the synopsis really made me think it's 100% my kind of show. And it didn't disappoint. Really liked the first epiode, probably the best ep-1 I've seen this season so far by a long shot. Let's just hope it continues to carry this hard :3

So with that I've got Gakkou Gurashi, Gate and Prisma Ilya going for me as well as a couple mediocre shows. Still got a bunch of ep1's to check out but I'm already happy to have found something.


+ Show Spoiler [gate] +
Gate: I like how it's showing the political side of things. I don't buy the USA deciding not to intervene though. If there was a threat of anotherworldly invasion the USA would be the first country to jump on to that. Also Japan should probably want their aid because the US has like over 10x the military power. I would imagine that there would be at least some joint forces sent from the UN.

On the fantasy world side of things, it's interesting how the emperor guy uses the war to get rid of his potential rivals and claim power for himself. I don't get why they wouldn't retreat after half of their army already got wiped out though. The daughter of the emperor looks like she might do something, hopefully she realizes that her dad is an evil dictator lol


+ Show Spoiler [Gakkou Gurashi] +
I went into this completely blind and I was laughing for like 5 minutes after the zombie apocalypse got revealed. I wonder how long their food supply will last


+ Show Spoiler [Overlord] +
I ended up reading up to volume 2 of the light novels after I saw the first ep, whoever described this as an evil Log Horizon before was spot on.


+ Show Spoiler [Gakkou Gurashi] +
I like those kind of shows that try to fool you and you just think small details make no sense at first while in reality those were hints and and you realize what's going on later on.
You know, how one of the girls is always running around with the shovel. How no teacher would be fine with pink-hair to leave class like that. How no school would be fine with those weird signs on the classroom reading 'sleeping room' and whatnot. How the girl that was following her around always seemed to get in the classes, behaving like she doesn't give a fuck that there's class atm. And then you realize that there never was class and that's just all been in pink-hairs head. So the girl, for just a second, forgot about pink-haired ptsd or whatever it is. Made the final reveal so much more impactful and beautiful to me despite it being very obvious.

TL;DR: same thing for food. They're growing stuff on the roof of the school not because of the school but because they need it (granted, it probably is unrealistic that they could grow enough up there to live on it) and that's just the cover up for pink-hair like the entire "staying at school" club I'd assume.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8625 Posts
July 11 2015 09:26 GMT
#102332
On July 11 2015 17:56 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 17:33 ShurykaN wrote:
On July 11 2015 14:05 Toadesstern wrote:
so watched a couple more. Gate continues to impress. Not really all that amazing but very refreshing for me with the military that's just plain normal military mixed together with fantasy.

And finally got around watching Gakkou Gursashi first episode. That was the thing I was looking forward the most this season as the synopsis really made me think it's 100% my kind of show. And it didn't disappoint. Really liked the first epiode, probably the best ep-1 I've seen this season so far by a long shot. Let's just hope it continues to carry this hard :3

So with that I've got Gakkou Gurashi, Gate and Prisma Ilya going for me as well as a couple mediocre shows. Still got a bunch of ep1's to check out but I'm already happy to have found something.


+ Show Spoiler [gate] +
Gate: I like how it's showing the political side of things. I don't buy the USA deciding not to intervene though. If there was a threat of anotherworldly invasion the USA would be the first country to jump on to that. Also Japan should probably want their aid because the US has like over 10x the military power. I would imagine that there would be at least some joint forces sent from the UN.

On the fantasy world side of things, it's interesting how the emperor guy uses the war to get rid of his potential rivals and claim power for himself. I don't get why they wouldn't retreat after half of their army already got wiped out though. The daughter of the emperor looks like she might do something, hopefully she realizes that her dad is an evil dictator lol


+ Show Spoiler [Gakkou Gurashi] +
I went into this completely blind and I was laughing for like 5 minutes after the zombie apocalypse got revealed. I wonder how long their food supply will last


+ Show Spoiler [Overlord] +
I ended up reading up to volume 2 of the light novels after I saw the first ep, whoever described this as an evil Log Horizon before was spot on.


+ Show Spoiler [Gakkou Gurashi] +
I like those kind of shows that try to fool you and you just think small details make no sense at first while in reality those were hints and and you realize what's going on later on.
You know, how one of the girls is always running around with the shovel. How no teacher would be fine with pink-hair to leave class like that. How no school would be fine with those weird signs on the classroom reading 'sleeping room' and whatnot. How the girl that was following her around always seemed to get in the classes, behaving like she doesn't give a fuck that there's class atm. And then you realize that there never was class and that's just all been in pink-hairs head. So the girl, for just a second, forgot about pink-haired ptsd or whatever it is. Made the final reveal so much more impactful and beautiful to me despite it being very obvious.

TL;DR: same thing for food. They're growing stuff on the roof of the school not because of the school but because they need it (granted, it probably is unrealistic that they could grow enough up there to live on it) and that's just the cover up for pink-hair like the entire "staying at school" club I'd assume.


+ Show Spoiler +
There was even more. On the roof top they actually had graves. That's why the one girl asked them to apologies to the members of the agrar club which then suddenly appeared. In reality they had been buried. You can even see the zombies from up there. Then there is the barricade in the hallway, some text on the blackboard etc. Too much details to catch them all honestly.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-11 10:15:08
July 11 2015 09:28 GMT
#102333
On July 11 2015 18:26 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 17:56 Toadesstern wrote:
On July 11 2015 17:33 ShurykaN wrote:
On July 11 2015 14:05 Toadesstern wrote:
so watched a couple more. Gate continues to impress. Not really all that amazing but very refreshing for me with the military that's just plain normal military mixed together with fantasy.

And finally got around watching Gakkou Gursashi first episode. That was the thing I was looking forward the most this season as the synopsis really made me think it's 100% my kind of show. And it didn't disappoint. Really liked the first epiode, probably the best ep-1 I've seen this season so far by a long shot. Let's just hope it continues to carry this hard :3

So with that I've got Gakkou Gurashi, Gate and Prisma Ilya going for me as well as a couple mediocre shows. Still got a bunch of ep1's to check out but I'm already happy to have found something.


+ Show Spoiler [gate] +
Gate: I like how it's showing the political side of things. I don't buy the USA deciding not to intervene though. If there was a threat of anotherworldly invasion the USA would be the first country to jump on to that. Also Japan should probably want their aid because the US has like over 10x the military power. I would imagine that there would be at least some joint forces sent from the UN.

On the fantasy world side of things, it's interesting how the emperor guy uses the war to get rid of his potential rivals and claim power for himself. I don't get why they wouldn't retreat after half of their army already got wiped out though. The daughter of the emperor looks like she might do something, hopefully she realizes that her dad is an evil dictator lol


+ Show Spoiler [Gakkou Gurashi] +
I went into this completely blind and I was laughing for like 5 minutes after the zombie apocalypse got revealed. I wonder how long their food supply will last


+ Show Spoiler [Overlord] +
I ended up reading up to volume 2 of the light novels after I saw the first ep, whoever described this as an evil Log Horizon before was spot on.


+ Show Spoiler [Gakkou Gurashi] +
I like those kind of shows that try to fool you and you just think small details make no sense at first while in reality those were hints and and you realize what's going on later on.
You know, how one of the girls is always running around with the shovel. How no teacher would be fine with pink-hair to leave class like that. How no school would be fine with those weird signs on the classroom reading 'sleeping room' and whatnot. How the girl that was following her around always seemed to get in the classes, behaving like she doesn't give a fuck that there's class atm. And then you realize that there never was class and that's just all been in pink-hairs head. So the girl, for just a second, forgot about pink-haired ptsd or whatever it is. Made the final reveal so much more impactful and beautiful to me despite it being very obvious.

TL;DR: same thing for food. They're growing stuff on the roof of the school not because of the school but because they need it (granted, it probably is unrealistic that they could grow enough up there to live on it) and that's just the cover up for pink-hair like the entire "staying at school" club I'd assume.


+ Show Spoiler +
There was even more. On the roof top they actually had graves. That's why the one girl asked them to apologies to the members of the agrar club which then suddenly appeared. In reality they had been buried. You can even see the zombies from up there. Then there is the barricade in the hallway, some text on the blackboard etc. Too much details to catch them all honestly.


+ Show Spoiler +
yeah the barricade was probably the part where everyone figured out ahead of time what's actually going on. I did not see the zombies in the shot on the roof lol.

Also mentioning everything would have resulted in even more wall-of-text o/

I do wonder what's up with the dog. All those "this actually makes no sense..." moments have been hints so I'd assume the dog has something going itself with being able to open doors. I really hope it's not just comic relief


speaking of refreshing about gate earlier: the best part about it probably is that the MC is a 33year old "normal" guy who has a job and slaves away and NOT another 16year old emotional kid who gets a powerup every time he gets emotional and/or shouts. Let's hope I'm not jinxing it here and the guy randomly behaves just like SAO-MC later on.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-11 10:23:01
July 11 2015 10:11 GMT
#102334
After reading all the spoilers about Gakkou here, that anime really is something. :D Excited for more.

Oh and yeah I LOVE that the MC of Gate is an adult for once, agreed Toad.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-11 11:18:11
July 11 2015 11:13 GMT
#102335
On July 11 2015 17:56 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 17:33 ShurykaN wrote:
On July 11 2015 14:05 Toadesstern wrote:
so watched a couple more. Gate continues to impress. Not really all that amazing but very refreshing for me with the military that's just plain normal military mixed together with fantasy.

And finally got around watching Gakkou Gursashi first episode. That was the thing I was looking forward the most this season as the synopsis really made me think it's 100% my kind of show. And it didn't disappoint. Really liked the first epiode, probably the best ep-1 I've seen this season so far by a long shot. Let's just hope it continues to carry this hard :3

So with that I've got Gakkou Gurashi, Gate and Prisma Ilya going for me as well as a couple mediocre shows. Still got a bunch of ep1's to check out but I'm already happy to have found something.


+ Show Spoiler [gate] +
Gate: I like how it's showing the political side of things. I don't buy the USA deciding not to intervene though. If there was a threat of anotherworldly invasion the USA would be the first country to jump on to that. Also Japan should probably want their aid because the US has like over 10x the military power. I would imagine that there would be at least some joint forces sent from the UN.

On the fantasy world side of things, it's interesting how the emperor guy uses the war to get rid of his potential rivals and claim power for himself. I don't get why they wouldn't retreat after half of their army already got wiped out though. The daughter of the emperor looks like she might do something, hopefully she realizes that her dad is an evil dictator lol


+ Show Spoiler [Gakkou Gurashi] +
I went into this completely blind and I was laughing for like 5 minutes after the zombie apocalypse got revealed. I wonder how long their food supply will last


+ Show Spoiler [Overlord] +
I ended up reading up to volume 2 of the light novels after I saw the first ep, whoever described this as an evil Log Horizon before was spot on.


+ Show Spoiler [Gakkou Gurashi] +
I like those kind of shows that try to fool you and you just think small details make no sense at first while in reality those were hints and and you realize what's going on later on.
You know, how one of the girls is always running around with the shovel. How no teacher would be fine with pink-hair to leave class like that. How no school would be fine with those weird signs on the classroom reading 'sleeping room' and whatnot. How the girl that was following her around always seemed to get in the classes, behaving like she doesn't give a fuck that there's class atm. And then you realize that there never was class and that's just all been in pink-hairs head. So the girl, for just a second, forgot about pink-haired ptsd or whatever it is. Made the final reveal so much more impactful and beautiful to me despite it being very obvious.

TL;DR: same thing for food. They're growing stuff on the roof of the school not because of the school but because they need it (granted, it probably is unrealistic that they could grow enough up there to live on it) and that's just the cover up for pink-hair like the entire "staying at school" club I'd assume.


my fav bit was + Show Spoiler +
when chasing the dog thing she said "oh that ways a dead end" and it looked like there were desks stacked there or something weird but you didn't think anything of it at the time.

when she opened the window was sick


i am not really happy with a pink mc directly after pleaides however. fortunately their characters are sufficiently different

+ Show Spoiler +
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50604 Posts
July 11 2015 11:43 GMT
#102336
+ Show Spoiler [Gate] +
the emperor's daughter's name is pina colada
-_-
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
July 11 2015 12:40 GMT
#102337
omg prison school is out xDDD dling it now
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
July 11 2015 12:43 GMT
#102338
Hope you like white beams of light
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8625 Posts
July 11 2015 12:58 GMT
#102339
On July 11 2015 21:43 Unleashing wrote:
Hope you like white beams of light


Those are the best. I wish one day there will be an animu with white beams of light only. White pureness.
KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
July 11 2015 13:27 GMT
#102340
On July 11 2015 21:58 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 21:43 Unleashing wrote:
Hope you like white beams of light


Those are the best. I wish one day there will be an animu with white beams of light only. White pureness.

TWGOK has you covered.
+ Show Spoiler +
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Since that's a double page spread, the right half is technically an entire page, and mangaka get paid by the page so that's some pretty good return on effort.
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