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Sterlymobile
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1009 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-27 08:25:20
February 27 2014 08:20 GMT
#71021
The only thing Nagisa has going for her is that she has cool ass parents. If that wasn't the case I'd choose Youhei over Nagisa.
"You sons of a silly person"
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
February 27 2014 08:23 GMT
#71022
On February 27 2014 17:07 goody153 wrote:
The Garden of Words

not as good his other work 5cm per second.

Oh well. I expected too much. It was also not bad.

I felt that Garden of Words had better story but 5cm per second was prettier. Enjoyed both.

On February 27 2014 16:48 Sterlymobile wrote:
Show nested quote +
T_T i wanted her to win...ruined, i didnt like how it ended personally
ya, I wanted her to win as well. I wasn't a big fan of how it ended either. I mean, I can understand what the MC wanted and he's been wanting to be with Hiromi for a long time but it almost felt like he was trying to convince himself that he still liked Hiromi when he was repeating it to Noe in that bus shelter. It felt to me that while he still liked Hiromi, Noe was the one he enjoyed his time with once he got together with her. The book he made, dancing for her, etc... all felt like it was for her, you know. I dunno, maybe I read into his acts too much or something lol. In the end, Noe ended up alone which was sad

Huehuehuehueuheuheuheuheu

On a related note Kyoto Animation or JC Staff needs to make a full series for Tomoyo storyline. It will be called Clannad Best Girl Afterstory

If it was called "Clannad Best Girl Afterstory" I'm pretty sure you got the wrong girl. It'd obviously have Kotomi. Which reminds me of that there still isn't a Kotomi Afterstory ova argh screw you kyoani I will never forgive you for that.
#freeshauni
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-27 08:47:45
February 27 2014 08:41 GMT
#71023
When people say "best girl" they clearly mean "best girl for me" in most cases. Take Clannad, The MC could have easily had happy lives with pretty much any of the girls (and indeed the anime even showed what a couple of those relationships would look like). There really is no "objective" way to say what pairing is best when it comes to relationships because no one only has "that one person" and no one else BS. Most of the time it comes down to the circumstances at the time or competitors dropping out because they don't want to cause drama (like Tomoyo who basically said "I lose" without any real pursuit of the MC). Its one of the things that often irks me in anime writing, a lot of the characters have their agency suppressed to serve the couple that the writers are shipping.
Never Knows Best.
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
February 27 2014 09:04 GMT
#71024
Slaughter please, objectively best girl is naturally the girl I choose.

Not my fault most people here hasn't seen the best of her because of Kyoani butchering. People should just go read the VN instead of the awful (first half at least) anime, said this way too many times.
#freeshauni
Saurabhinator
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Australia347 Posts
February 27 2014 09:30 GMT
#71025
Saw some pretty sick anime fanart. Thought I'd share.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
[image loading]
source


Also I finished Shinsekai Yori a while back and loved it. Super good anime. I made my own fanart of it.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

#1 Rarity Fanboi. CA:http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?224569-Saura-Sketchbook/page7
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44282 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-27 10:28:25
February 27 2014 10:27 GMT
#71026
On February 27 2014 17:23 Elem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 17:07 goody153 wrote:
The Garden of Words

not as good his other work 5cm per second.

Oh well. I expected too much. It was also not bad.

I felt that Garden of Words had better story but 5cm per second was prettier. Enjoyed both.

Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 16:48 Sterlymobile wrote:
T_T i wanted her to win...ruined, i didnt like how it ended personally
ya, I wanted her to win as well. I wasn't a big fan of how it ended either. I mean, I can understand what the MC wanted and he's been wanting to be with Hiromi for a long time but it almost felt like he was trying to convince himself that he still liked Hiromi when he was repeating it to Noe in that bus shelter. It felt to me that while he still liked Hiromi, Noe was the one he enjoyed his time with once he got together with her. The book he made, dancing for her, etc... all felt like it was for her, you know. I dunno, maybe I read into his acts too much or something lol. In the end, Noe ended up alone which was sad

Huehuehuehueuheuheuheuheu

On a related note Kyoto Animation or JC Staff needs to make a full series for Tomoyo storyline. It will be called Clannad Best Girl Afterstory

If it was called "Clannad Best Girl Afterstory" I'm pretty sure you got the wrong girl. It'd obviously have Kotomi. Which reminds me of that there still isn't a Kotomi Afterstory ova argh screw you kyoani I will never forgive you for that.



It felt like the The Garden of Words in the last few minutes were kinda forced not to mention + Show Spoiler +
the MC just basically punched a really big person with no chance of winning. I mean wtf.
but that is not my complain. Yet it still had the Signature Makoto Shinkai melancholic end so all is good and well.

Now the next movie i will watch will be Wolf's Children. I hope its really a good one as what reviews had been stating.

And regarding the best girl.
Kotomi is more boring than Nagisa. Yes i declare war
this is a quote
Bashnek
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia895 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-27 11:53:48
February 27 2014 11:52 GMT
#71027
On February 27 2014 19:27 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 17:23 Elem wrote:
On February 27 2014 17:07 goody153 wrote:
The Garden of Words

not as good his other work 5cm per second.

Oh well. I expected too much. It was also not bad.

I felt that Garden of Words had better story but 5cm per second was prettier. Enjoyed both.

On February 27 2014 16:48 Sterlymobile wrote:
T_T i wanted her to win...ruined, i didnt like how it ended personally
ya, I wanted her to win as well. I wasn't a big fan of how it ended either. I mean, I can understand what the MC wanted and he's been wanting to be with Hiromi for a long time but it almost felt like he was trying to convince himself that he still liked Hiromi when he was repeating it to Noe in that bus shelter. It felt to me that while he still liked Hiromi, Noe was the one he enjoyed his time with once he got together with her. The book he made, dancing for her, etc... all felt like it was for her, you know. I dunno, maybe I read into his acts too much or something lol. In the end, Noe ended up alone which was sad

Huehuehuehueuheuheuheuheu

On a related note Kyoto Animation or JC Staff needs to make a full series for Tomoyo storyline. It will be called Clannad Best Girl Afterstory

If it was called "Clannad Best Girl Afterstory" I'm pretty sure you got the wrong girl. It'd obviously have Kotomi. Which reminds me of that there still isn't a Kotomi Afterstory ova argh screw you kyoani I will never forgive you for that.



It felt like the The Garden of Words in the last few minutes were kinda forced not to mention + Show Spoiler +
the MC just basically punched a really big person with no chance of winning. I mean wtf.
but that is not my complain. Yet it still had the Signature Makoto Shinkai melancholic end so all is good and well.

Now the next movie i will watch will be Wolf's Children. I hope its really a good one as what reviews had been stating.

And regarding the best girl.
Kotomi is more boring than Nagisa. Yes i declare war


Wolf children is fantastic (except that one weird scene... you'll know it when you get to it)

Kyou was clearly the best btw.
/人 ◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-27 12:31:46
February 27 2014 12:30 GMT
#71028
On the best girl point:

A lot of the girls that MCs end up with are like....a lot of them are helpless damsels/clumsy people who have little to no personality outside of a single one dimensional trait that is basically just bait for the wild otaku fanbase.

So for instance in Toradora you get Taiga, who is basically just a tsundere with no other defining qualities. She can't do anything, from cooking to....anything useful. Pretty sure her grades sucked too. She was also intensely abusive. Granted, I was totally fine with it for some odd reason, but that's just the facts compared to someone like Ami.

Then you have in Clannad Nagisa....who is actually a bit better since she's not completely useless. But in Clannad you have people like Tomoyo who is such an all around amazing person. Like...if you watch the Tomoyo OVA the romance in that OVA is so much better than the entire first season of Clannad and is probably better than a good portion of After Story....or maybe all of it I don't know. Kotomi's good too, and Kyou's okay.

It's kind of like how in Little Busters, the main love interest is Rin, but then when you actually follow through with her route, she's so amazingly frustrating to deal with since she literally does nothing and you wonder "Wait a second...why?"

Same thing with Rewrite where you randomly choose Hanakana over THE BEST, CUTEST THING TO EVER HAPPEN. T__T;

Anyway before I start crying about Rewrite again, the examples go on and on so there's no point in me bringing up all too many things. I just want to say that....a lot of times I think the "best" girls are just the girls that are so much better, either from a character standpoint (aka not abusive people) or are more useful in general.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44282 Posts
February 27 2014 13:00 GMT
#71029
On February 27 2014 21:30 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On the best girl point:

A lot of the girls that MCs end up with are like....a lot of them are helpless damsels/clumsy people who have little to no personality outside of a single one dimensional trait that is basically just bait for the wild otaku fanbase.

So for instance in Toradora you get Taiga, who is basically just a tsundere with no other defining qualities. She can't do anything, from cooking to....anything useful. Pretty sure her grades sucked too. She was also intensely abusive. Granted, I was totally fine with it for some odd reason, but that's just the facts compared to someone like Ami.

Then you have in Clannad Nagisa....who is actually a bit better since she's not completely useless. But in Clannad you have people like Tomoyo who is such an all around amazing person. Like...if you watch the Tomoyo OVA the romance in that OVA is so much better than the entire first season of Clannad and is probably better than a good portion of After Story....or maybe all of it I don't know. Kotomi's good too, and Kyou's okay.

It's kind of like how in Little Busters, the main love interest is Rin, but then when you actually follow through with her route, she's so amazingly frustrating to deal with since she literally does nothing and you wonder "Wait a second...why?"

Same thing with Rewrite where you randomly choose Hanakana over THE BEST, CUTEST THING TO EVER HAPPEN. T__T;

Anyway before I start crying about Rewrite again, the examples go on and on so there's no point in me bringing up all too many things. I just want to say that....a lot of times I think the "best" girls are just the girls that are so much better, either from a character standpoint (aka not abusive people) or are more useful in general.

Taiga didn't have difficulty in academics. That is one of her traits that are pretty the same with Dragon(i forgot MC name).

Taiga wasn't one dimensional as much as you think. She is pretty blunt and she is lonely and playful(much like haruhi). And sometimes really stupid. Although i like Amy more she is more human to me.

She is not really that bad compared to Nagisa which her only role was to be weak and troubled most of the time. For the male Tomoya to rescue.

this is a quote
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
February 27 2014 13:04 GMT
#71030
She is pretty blunt and she is lonely and playful(much like haruhi). And sometimes really stupid.


So she's tsun.

I mean those aren't defining characteristics for her. She's defined by her aggressive behavior that masks her inner insecurities. Saying one dimensional doesn't mean that she's not a person and she's just stagnant. It just means she doesn't have a well rounded personality. Taiga has two things: she's tsun and she's dere. Which is fine. I think she plays to the archetype well, but the point still stands.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
February 27 2014 13:07 GMT
#71031
On February 27 2014 19:27 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 17:23 Elem wrote:
On February 27 2014 17:07 goody153 wrote:
The Garden of Words

not as good his other work 5cm per second.

Oh well. I expected too much. It was also not bad.

I felt that Garden of Words had better story but 5cm per second was prettier. Enjoyed both.

On February 27 2014 16:48 Sterlymobile wrote:
T_T i wanted her to win...ruined, i didnt like how it ended personally
ya, I wanted her to win as well. I wasn't a big fan of how it ended either. I mean, I can understand what the MC wanted and he's been wanting to be with Hiromi for a long time but it almost felt like he was trying to convince himself that he still liked Hiromi when he was repeating it to Noe in that bus shelter. It felt to me that while he still liked Hiromi, Noe was the one he enjoyed his time with once he got together with her. The book he made, dancing for her, etc... all felt like it was for her, you know. I dunno, maybe I read into his acts too much or something lol. In the end, Noe ended up alone which was sad

Huehuehuehueuheuheuheuheu

On a related note Kyoto Animation or JC Staff needs to make a full series for Tomoyo storyline. It will be called Clannad Best Girl Afterstory

If it was called "Clannad Best Girl Afterstory" I'm pretty sure you got the wrong girl. It'd obviously have Kotomi. Which reminds me of that there still isn't a Kotomi Afterstory ova argh screw you kyoani I will never forgive you for that.



It felt like the The Garden of Words in the last few minutes were kinda forced not to mention + Show Spoiler +
the MC just basically punched a really big person with no chance of winning. I mean wtf.
but that is not my complain. Yet it still had the Signature Makoto Shinkai melancholic end so all is good and well.

Now the next movie i will watch will be Wolf's Children. I hope its really a good one as what reviews had been stating.

And regarding the best girl.
Kotomi is more boring than Nagisa. Yes i declare war

Did you read the VN? Until then you will autolose any war. :|
#freeshauni
mofuli
Profile Joined October 2010
164 Posts
February 27 2014 14:17 GMT
#71032
When you say after story I thought you mean the 'Tomoyo after'. Wonder whether it will ever be animated.
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1970 Posts
February 27 2014 14:26 GMT
#71033
On February 27 2014 18:30 Saurabhinator wrote:
Saw some pretty sick anime fanart. Thought I'd share.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
[image loading]
source


Also I finished Shinsekai Yori a while back and loved it. Super good anime. I made my own fanart of it.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Hey, I really liked Shinsekai Yori, too!
killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-27 15:29:49
February 27 2014 15:29 GMT
#71034
On February 27 2014 21:30 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On the best girl point:

A lot of the girls that MCs end up with are like....a lot of them are helpless damsels/clumsy people who have little to no personality outside of a single one dimensional trait that is basically just bait for the wild otaku fanbase.

So for instance in Toradora you get Taiga, who is basically just a tsundere with no other defining qualities. She can't do anything, from cooking to....anything useful. Pretty sure her grades sucked too. She was also intensely abusive. Granted, I was totally fine with it for some odd reason, but that's just the facts compared to someone like Ami.

Then you have in Clannad Nagisa....who is actually a bit better since she's not completely useless. But in Clannad you have people like Tomoyo who is such an all around amazing person. Like...if you watch the Tomoyo OVA the romance in that OVA is so much better than the entire first season of Clannad and is probably better than a good portion of After Story....or maybe all of it I don't know. Kotomi's good too, and Kyou's okay.

It's kind of like how in Little Busters, the main love interest is Rin, but then when you actually follow through with her route, she's so amazingly frustrating to deal with since she literally does nothing and you wonder "Wait a second...why?"

Same thing with Rewrite where you randomly choose Hanakana over THE BEST, CUTEST THING TO EVER HAPPEN. T__T;

Anyway before I start crying about Rewrite again, the examples go on and on so there's no point in me bringing up all too many things. I just want to say that....a lot of times I think the "best" girls are just the girls that are so much better, either from a character standpoint (aka not abusive people) or are more useful in general.


I'm pretty sure all harem shows intentionally pick the worst girl so fans are left unsatisfied and can argue over who the best girl is.

+1 Kotomi best girl
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44282 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-27 15:35:59
February 27 2014 15:31 GMT
#71035
Tonari no Seki Kun ep 8

LOLz

The opening where the girl says "Yameteh" is stuck in my head.
this is a quote
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
February 27 2014 16:10 GMT
#71036
Fucking mj, now the disease known as yameteh is spreading.
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
February 27 2014 16:12 GMT
#71037
On February 28 2014 00:29 killa_robot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 21:30 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On the best girl point:

A lot of the girls that MCs end up with are like....a lot of them are helpless damsels/clumsy people who have little to no personality outside of a single one dimensional trait that is basically just bait for the wild otaku fanbase.

So for instance in Toradora you get Taiga, who is basically just a tsundere with no other defining qualities. She can't do anything, from cooking to....anything useful. Pretty sure her grades sucked too. She was also intensely abusive. Granted, I was totally fine with it for some odd reason, but that's just the facts compared to someone like Ami.

Then you have in Clannad Nagisa....who is actually a bit better since she's not completely useless. But in Clannad you have people like Tomoyo who is such an all around amazing person. Like...if you watch the Tomoyo OVA the romance in that OVA is so much better than the entire first season of Clannad and is probably better than a good portion of After Story....or maybe all of it I don't know. Kotomi's good too, and Kyou's okay.

It's kind of like how in Little Busters, the main love interest is Rin, but then when you actually follow through with her route, she's so amazingly frustrating to deal with since she literally does nothing and you wonder "Wait a second...why?"

Same thing with Rewrite where you randomly choose Hanakana over THE BEST, CUTEST THING TO EVER HAPPEN. T__T;

Anyway before I start crying about Rewrite again, the examples go on and on so there's no point in me bringing up all too many things. I just want to say that....a lot of times I think the "best" girls are just the girls that are so much better, either from a character standpoint (aka not abusive people) or are more useful in general.


I'm pretty sure all harem shows intentionally pick the worst girl so fans are left unsatisfied and can argue over who the best girl is.

+1 Kotomi best girl


Don't know how someone can not vote for Youhei Tomoyo. Actually, youhei was a pretty shit character as well, nvm. I usually love the wise best friend characters who can be goofy sometimes, but Youhei seems to exist solely to make mc look better, and tease with somewhat decent arc.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
February 27 2014 16:15 GMT
#71038
On February 28 2014 01:10 Ecael wrote:
Fucking mj, now the disease known as yameteh is spreading.


Sugoi monogatari aniki
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44282 Posts
February 27 2014 16:42 GMT
#71039
On February 28 2014 01:12 Dark_Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 00:29 killa_robot wrote:
On February 27 2014 21:30 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On the best girl point:

A lot of the girls that MCs end up with are like....a lot of them are helpless damsels/clumsy people who have little to no personality outside of a single one dimensional trait that is basically just bait for the wild otaku fanbase.

So for instance in Toradora you get Taiga, who is basically just a tsundere with no other defining qualities. She can't do anything, from cooking to....anything useful. Pretty sure her grades sucked too. She was also intensely abusive. Granted, I was totally fine with it for some odd reason, but that's just the facts compared to someone like Ami.

Then you have in Clannad Nagisa....who is actually a bit better since she's not completely useless. But in Clannad you have people like Tomoyo who is such an all around amazing person. Like...if you watch the Tomoyo OVA the romance in that OVA is so much better than the entire first season of Clannad and is probably better than a good portion of After Story....or maybe all of it I don't know. Kotomi's good too, and Kyou's okay.

It's kind of like how in Little Busters, the main love interest is Rin, but then when you actually follow through with her route, she's so amazingly frustrating to deal with since she literally does nothing and you wonder "Wait a second...why?"

Same thing with Rewrite where you randomly choose Hanakana over THE BEST, CUTEST THING TO EVER HAPPEN. T__T;

Anyway before I start crying about Rewrite again, the examples go on and on so there's no point in me bringing up all too many things. I just want to say that....a lot of times I think the "best" girls are just the girls that are so much better, either from a character standpoint (aka not abusive people) or are more useful in general.


I'm pretty sure all harem shows intentionally pick the worst girl so fans are left unsatisfied and can argue over who the best girl is.

+1 Kotomi best girl


Don't know how someone can not vote for Youhei Tomoyo. Actually, youhei was a pretty shit character as well, nvm. I usually love the wise best friend characters who can be goofy sometimes, but Youhei seems to exist solely to make mc look better, and tease with somewhat decent arc.

The best friend types are pretty entertaining to watch. I mean they don't have the awkward air and they are very natural.

Both in anime and real life!

That's why i only rooted Senjougahara during bakemonogatari but after seeing Nekomonogatari i instantly rooted for Hanekawa. Especially the tsubasa cat final in monogatari s2.
this is a quote
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-27 17:14:42
February 27 2014 17:13 GMT
#71040
On February 27 2014 18:04 Elem wrote:
Slaughter please, objectively best girl is naturally the girl I choose.

Not my fault most people here hasn't seen the best of her because of Kyoani butchering. People should just go read the VN instead of the awful (first half at least) anime, said this way too many times.

Vn too long art too shitty, but story 100x better
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
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