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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
August 31 2011 21:03 GMT
#27341
I am sad, I got people to talk about it on IRC, but only 1 person here.

I agree, Leo is superior to a Zaku II! Come on, someone say something about Explodium or something!
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
August 31 2011 21:14 GMT
#27342
On September 01 2011 06:03 Sentenal wrote:
I am sad, I got people to talk about it on IRC, but only 1 person here.

I agree, Leo is superior to a Zaku II! Come on, someone say something about Explodium or something!

Wasn't the Leo based on the Tallgeese? I think that already makes it pretty good.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 31 2011 21:16 GMT
#27343
On September 01 2011 06:03 Sentenal wrote:
I am sad, I got people to talk about it on IRC, but only 1 person here.

I agree, Leo is superior to a Zaku II! Come on, someone say something about Explodium or something!


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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
August 31 2011 21:16 GMT
#27344
On September 01 2011 06:14 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 06:03 Sentenal wrote:
I am sad, I got people to talk about it on IRC, but only 1 person here.

I agree, Leo is superior to a Zaku II! Come on, someone say something about Explodium or something!

Wasn't the Leo based on the Tallgeese? I think that already makes it pretty good.

Yeah, Tallgeese was the prototype mobile suit in Wing. The Tallgeese was insane too. But it also had the side effect of turning the pilot's bones into jelly, so they toned down on like everything when they made the Leo.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
CrAzzYmr.BC
Profile Joined March 2011
United States165 Posts
August 31 2011 22:16 GMT
#27345
I'm thinking zaku but i'll have to see it in action more before that.
SheaR619
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2399 Posts
August 31 2011 23:03 GMT
#27346
Just look at the colors! The Zaku so bright in color, it will obviously get seen first and raped. It will be like a DT vs a Marine.
I may not be the best, but i will be some day...
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8036 Posts
August 31 2011 23:28 GMT
#27347
On September 01 2011 08:03 SheaR619 wrote:
Just look at the colors! The Zaku so bright in color, it will obviously get seen first and raped. It will be like a DT vs a Marine.

Fortunately, they have inflatable asteroids to hide themselves behind.
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Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
August 31 2011 23:36 GMT
#27348
On September 01 2011 08:28 Spazer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 08:03 SheaR619 wrote:
Just look at the colors! The Zaku so bright in color, it will obviously get seen first and raped. It will be like a DT vs a Marine.

Fortunately, they have inflatable asteroids to hide themselves behind.


The leo's have those chest missiles that will insta-own any cannon fodder suits.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
September 01 2011 00:14 GMT
#27349
On September 01 2011 08:36 Nagisama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 08:28 Spazer wrote:
On September 01 2011 08:03 SheaR619 wrote:
Just look at the colors! The Zaku so bright in color, it will obviously get seen first and raped. It will be like a DT vs a Marine.

Fortunately, they have inflatable asteroids to hide themselves behind.


The leo's have those chest missiles that will insta-own any cannon fodder suits.

I don't think those missiles would do much against minovsky particles, though.

There are 2 reasons why I think a Leo would beat a Zaku. First one is beam weaponry. Beam weaponry is the sole reason why GMs were better than Zakus. Beam Saber>Zaku's Heathawk axe thing. Next, is what they are made out of. A Zaku is made out of "Super Hard Steel Alloy", while a Leo is made out of Titanium Alloy. This is actually a pretty huge victory for the Leo. A Zaku being made out of steel (among other things) results in it weighing 58 tons. A Leo weighs 7 tons. So basically, even though they are roughly the same size, a Zaku is about 8 times the weight of a Leo, and has less firepower. So its actually not really a far comparison lol. Leos are more comparable to the mooks from Victory Gundam, which is like 70 years after the OYW.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-01 00:34:03
September 01 2011 00:33 GMT
#27350
On September 01 2011 09:14 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 08:36 Nagisama wrote:
On September 01 2011 08:28 Spazer wrote:
On September 01 2011 08:03 SheaR619 wrote:
Just look at the colors! The Zaku so bright in color, it will obviously get seen first and raped. It will be like a DT vs a Marine.

Fortunately, they have inflatable asteroids to hide themselves behind.


The leo's have those chest missiles that will insta-own any cannon fodder suits.

I don't think those missiles would do much against minovsky particles, though.

There are 2 reasons why I think a Leo would beat a Zaku. First one is beam weaponry. Beam weaponry is the sole reason why GMs were better than Zakus. Beam Saber>Zaku's Heathawk axe thing. Next, is what they are made out of. A Zaku is made out of "Super Hard Steel Alloy", while a Leo is made out of Titanium Alloy. This is actually a pretty huge victory for the Leo. A Zaku being made out of steel (among other things) results in it weighing 58 tons. A Leo weighs 7 tons. So basically, even though they are roughly the same size, a Zaku is about 8 times the weight of a Leo, and has less firepower. So its actually not really a far comparison lol. Leos are more comparable to the mooks from Victory Gundam, which is like 70 years after the OYW.


If the Zaku weighs 58 tons, if it manages to get on top of the Leo, it would never be able to get up. But I guess the Leo would be way more agile than the Zaku.

What about the cannon fodder in SEED that looked exactly like Zakus??
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
BnK
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States538 Posts
September 01 2011 00:37 GMT
#27351
S;G and TWGOK this week + Show Spoiler +
give me diabetes.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
September 01 2011 00:55 GMT
#27352
On September 01 2011 09:33 Nagisama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 09:14 Sentenal wrote:
On September 01 2011 08:36 Nagisama wrote:
On September 01 2011 08:28 Spazer wrote:
On September 01 2011 08:03 SheaR619 wrote:
Just look at the colors! The Zaku so bright in color, it will obviously get seen first and raped. It will be like a DT vs a Marine.

Fortunately, they have inflatable asteroids to hide themselves behind.


The leo's have those chest missiles that will insta-own any cannon fodder suits.

I don't think those missiles would do much against minovsky particles, though.

There are 2 reasons why I think a Leo would beat a Zaku. First one is beam weaponry. Beam weaponry is the sole reason why GMs were better than Zakus. Beam Saber>Zaku's Heathawk axe thing. Next, is what they are made out of. A Zaku is made out of "Super Hard Steel Alloy", while a Leo is made out of Titanium Alloy. This is actually a pretty huge victory for the Leo. A Zaku being made out of steel (among other things) results in it weighing 58 tons. A Leo weighs 7 tons. So basically, even though they are roughly the same size, a Zaku is about 8 times the weight of a Leo, and has less firepower. So its actually not really a far comparison lol. Leos are more comparable to the mooks from Victory Gundam, which is like 70 years after the OYW.


If the Zaku weighs 58 tons, if it manages to get on top of the Leo, it would never be able to get up. But I guess the Leo would be way more agile than the Zaku.

What about the cannon fodder in SEED that looked exactly like Zakus??

I don't really see any situation of a Zaku sitting on a Leo lol, and plus the Leo's power output is unknown. On IRC, Spazer said that inertia could help give the Zaku an advantage in circumstances, but being lighter really helps out the Leo by alot.

Firepower wise, Leos have a ton more, since they have beam weapons as their standard equipment. Zakus had a 120mm machine gun, but those were barely able to damage the original gundam. Which was made out of "Lunar Titanium Alloy". If that is anything like regular Titanium Alloy, the standard weapon of a Zaku would barely be able to damage a Leo lol. It would need to use that Bazokka, or get in close with the Heat Axe, and hope it doesn't get cut to shreds by the Leo's beam saber. And since a Leo is probably more agile and maneuverable, getting in close favors a Leo most of the time.

As for a GINN vs a Zaku II... Thats a closer. They are probably about the same in maneuverability, due to weight. A GINN's armor is unknown, but given its weight, its probably something similar to a Zaku. The Zaku's 120mm machine gun is more powerful than a GINN's 76mm machine gun, but GINNs have access to some really big weapons (like a particle cannon) themselves. But, I kinda think a GINN's gun might be a little too small, if they just go with their machine gun. Zakus got taken down by Type 61 tanks in the OYW, and I image the tanks had 120mm cannons, but its not like the cannon absolutely blew the Zaku away.

The Linear Tanks that the Federation used were pretty much stomped mercilessly by GINNs and BeCues in SEED. I wonder how big their gun was. I wonder if they mentioned anywhere in Stargazer how big the Linear Cannon on those tanks were?
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
September 01 2011 02:53 GMT
#27353
A Zaku would win. Proof: Zakus are sooooo good, that the Titans ripped-off the design for the Hi-Zack. And the Titans have a proven track record of victories.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
September 01 2011 04:19 GMT
#27354
One thing is for sure; Zakus are MUCH cuter than Leos:
http://www.animecrazy.net/mobile-suit-sd-gundam-episode-1/
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
CrAzzYmr.BC
Profile Joined March 2011
United States165 Posts
September 01 2011 04:39 GMT
#27355
you've convinced me of the leo. lol
NationInArms
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1553 Posts
September 01 2011 04:42 GMT
#27356
Steins; Gate...and yes, I know I'm behind everyone by like 3 pages...
+ Show Spoiler +
So, what was Kurisu going to say after Okarin pushed enter? Was she going to say that she was in the beta world line?
BW for life | Fantasy, MMA, SlayerS_Boxer | Taengoo! n_n | "Lelouch vi Britannia commands you! Obey me, subjects! OBEY ME, WORLD!" | <3 Emi
SheaR619
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2399 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-01 04:51:56
September 01 2011 04:51 GMT
#27357
On September 01 2011 13:42 NationInArms wrote:
Steins; Gate...and yes, I know I'm behind everyone by like 3 pages...
+ Show Spoiler +
So, what was Kurisu going to say after Okarin pushed enter? Was she going to say that she was in the beta world line?


SG Spoiler! + Show Spoiler +
Probably I love you too or something because before she was going Tsundere mode on him and didnt really confess straight up. I think that what you mean but I am not sure what your saying though. Also, in the world line before they change it, why did Kurisu through the coke bottle and ran off? It looked like she was packing and leaving for somewhere...:/


I previewed this time
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NationInArms
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1553 Posts
September 01 2011 04:58 GMT
#27358
On September 01 2011 13:51 SheaR619 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 13:42 NationInArms wrote:
Steins; Gate...and yes, I know I'm behind everyone by like 3 pages...
+ Show Spoiler +
So, what was Kurisu going to say after Okarin pushed enter? Was she going to say that she was in the beta world line?


SG Spoiler! + Show Spoiler +
Probably I love you too or something because before she was going Tsundere mode on him and didnt really confess straight up. I think that what you mean but I am not sure what your saying though. Also, in the world line before they change it, why did Kurisu through the coke bottle and ran off? It looked like she was packing and leaving for somewhere...:/


I previewed this time


+ Show Spoiler +
Ok, you're probably right about her saying "I am in" love with you or something like that. I took the word "in" a little to literally I guess. n_n She threw the soda bottle at Okarin to distract him i suppose while she left to go back to America (I think), before returning back to Okarin.
BW for life | Fantasy, MMA, SlayerS_Boxer | Taengoo! n_n | "Lelouch vi Britannia commands you! Obey me, subjects! OBEY ME, WORLD!" | <3 Emi
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
September 01 2011 05:07 GMT
#27359
On September 01 2011 13:58 NationInArms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 13:51 SheaR619 wrote:
On September 01 2011 13:42 NationInArms wrote:
Steins; Gate...and yes, I know I'm behind everyone by like 3 pages...
+ Show Spoiler +
So, what was Kurisu going to say after Okarin pushed enter? Was she going to say that she was in the beta world line?


SG Spoiler! + Show Spoiler +
Probably I love you too or something because before she was going Tsundere mode on him and didnt really confess straight up. I think that what you mean but I am not sure what your saying though. Also, in the world line before they change it, why did Kurisu through the coke bottle and ran off? It looked like she was packing and leaving for somewhere...:/


I previewed this time


+ Show Spoiler +
Ok, you're probably right about her saying "I am in" love with you or something like that. I took the word "in" a little to literally I guess. n_n She threw the soda bottle at Okarin to distract him i suppose while she left to go back to America (I think), before returning back to Okarin.


+ Show Spoiler +
The one thing that really confused me is why she was leaving. Did I miss something there? She just not like the others enough to stick around without him?
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
September 01 2011 05:16 GMT
#27360
It was to make Okabe's job easier by not being in his presence.
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