Anime Discussion Thread - Page 1294

[02:55] <gAOxI> ok done
[02:55] <gAOxI> i dont think ringo has it
[02:56] <gAOxI> with what just happened
[02:56] <gAOxI> she probably believes in the hat, considers them her friends
[02:56] <gAOxI> and might let her look at her book
01[02:56] <spazer> hm
01[02:56] <spazer> so you think the alien is mistaken?
[02:56] <gAOxI> the alien didnt say for sure
[02:56] <gAOxI> remember
01[02:56] <spazer> that's true
[02:57] <gAOxI> she said that ringo has it...probably
01[02:57] <spazer> though...
01[02:57] <spazer> the stuff in the diary
01[02:57] <spazer> is also too coincidental
01[02:57] <spazer> imo
01[02:57] <spazer> it doesn't apply to the teacher
01[02:57] <spazer> but to the other dude
[02:57] <gAOxI> hmm
[02:57] <gAOxI> true
01[02:57] <spazer> think back
01[02:57] <spazer> he ate her curry in that other ep
01[02:57] <spazer> and he also kissed her
[02:57] <Wala> I already forgot who's who lol
01[02:57] <spazer> the thing I was looking for in this ep
01[02:57] <spazer> was the cake
01[02:58] <spazer> but that didn't happen
01[02:58] <spazer> so I have my own doubts lol
[02:58] <gAOxI> well he ate cake
01[02:58] <spazer> did he?
01[02:58] <spazer> when?
[02:58] <gAOxI> with the girlfriend
01[02:58] <spazer> nono
01[02:58] <spazer> not the teacher
01[02:58] <spazer> my theory is that the teacher is not the subject of the diary
[02:58] <gAOxI> oh
01[02:58] <spazer> I'm thinking tabuki(?)
[02:58] <gAOxI> she is the subject of her own diary
01[02:58] <spazer> I think that's his name
[02:58] <gAOxI> yea its tabuki
[02:58] <Wala> is this ad
[02:58] <Wala> in the middle
01[02:58] <spazer> yes
[02:59] <gAOxI> yes
01[02:59] <spazer> it's gg
[02:59] <Wala> gundamuuuu
01[02:59] <spazer> like I said gao
[02:59] <Wala> for only 1050 yen!
01[02:59] <spazer> tabuki had the curry and he kissed her
01[02:59] <spazer> he fits
[02:59] <Wala> just fou liders
01[02:59] <spazer> except for the cake <_<
[02:59] <gAOxI> wait
[02:59] <Wala> reddo baron
[02:59] <gAOxI> tabuki didnt kiss
[02:59] <gAOxI> ringo
01[02:59] <spazer> mouth to mouth
01[02:59] <spazer> lawl
[02:59] <gAOxI> that blue hair guy
[02:59] <gAOxI> saved her
[02:59] <gAOxI> + the mouth to mouth
[03:00] <gAOxI> and was getting consoled by the actress
[03:00] <gAOxI> afterwords
01[03:00] <spazer> uhh
01[03:00] <spazer> I think that's the guy I'm talking about
[03:00] <gAOxI> tabuki was just there holding her
01[03:00] <spazer> I have no idea wtf his name is
[03:00] <gAOxI> blue hair
[03:00] <gAOxI> me neither
[03:00] <gAOxI> LOL
[03:00] <@Kaal> uhhh
[03:00] <@Kaal> apparently
[03:00] <gAOxI> shouma
01[03:00] <spazer> http://myanimelist.net/character/43335/Shouma_Takakura
[03:00] <@Kaal> there's going to be a live version of arakawa?
[03:00] <gAOxI> is his name
01[03:00] <spazer> that dude
[03:00] <gAOxI> i think
[03:00] <gAOxI> yea
01[03:00] <spazer> yeah kaal, that was announced a while back
[03:01] <gAOxI> omg live version of arakawa?
[03:01] <gAOxI> zz
[03:01] <gAOxI> so you're saying that Shouma is the subject of her diary?
01[03:01] <spazer> yes
[03:01] <gAOxI> hmm
01[03:01] <spazer> if the diary doesn't name names
01[03:01] <spazer> then the fact that she thinks it applies to teacher
01[03:01] <spazer> is only wishful thinking
[03:02] <gAOxI> yea
[03:02] <gAOxI> does she write what is going to happen in the diary?
01[03:02] <spazer> who knows -_-
01[03:02] <spazer> I have my doubts there as well lol
[03:02] <gAOxI> another thing
[03:03] <Wala> ooo unveiling
[03:03] <Wala> what the hell
[03:03] <gAOxI> ringo might have the penguindrum
[03:03] <gAOxI> but she might not know it
[03:03] <Wala> she just straight up tells him what the diary is?
[03:03] <Wala> -_-
[03:03] <MichaelEU> lol totalbiscuit
01[03:03] <spazer> well we still have no idea wtf the drum is supposed to be haha
[03:03] <gAOxI> but i still think that group
[03:03] <gAOxI> has it
[03:03] <MichaelEU> "if he had a higher hellion count he might've held it" - but then he'd have a lower tank count so...
01[03:03] <spazer> I still think they're contenders
[03:03] <gAOxI> the hat might be mistaking ringo for having it, since she likes penguins
01[03:03] <spazer> they had some weird gear
01[03:03] <spazer> with the logo, right?
[03:03] <gAOxI> yea
[03:03] <gAOxI> penguin logo
01[03:03] <spazer> but at the end of the ep
01[03:04] <spazer> you can clearly see
01[03:04] <spazer> that same logo
01[03:04] <spazer> so I dunno
[03:04] <gAOxI> where?
01[03:04] <spazer> on the envelope
[03:04] <Wala> yay
[03:04] <Wala> survival strategy
[03:04] <gAOxI> that was handed to the red haired dude
01[03:04] <spazer> yes
01[03:04] <spazer> I was thinking there was some central organization
01[03:04] <spazer> or something to that effect
01[03:04] <spazer> who is supplying the contenders with stuff
01[03:05] <spazer> such as the money
01[03:05] <spazer> or the sling
[03:05] <gAOxI> makes sense
[03:05] <gAOxI> oh that explains where he got the money from
01[03:05] <spazer> there is also another logo in the OP
[03:05] <gAOxI> right?
01[03:05] <spazer> which we have not seen yet
01[03:05] <spazer> yeah gao
[03:05] <gAOxI> cause at the end he said he had the money
01[03:05] <spazer> that's the theory
[03:05] <gAOxI> ok
[03:05] <gAOxI> yea central organization
[03:05] <gAOxI> makes sense
01[03:05] <spazer> maybe they have "wishes" or whatever
01[03:05] <spazer> who knows
[03:05] <gAOxI> either that or the organization doesnt want
[03:05] <gAOxI> them to move
01[03:06] <spazer> the thing is, why does this organization even exist
01[03:06] <spazer> it's almost at odds with the existance of the alien
[03:06] <gAOxI> they seek the penguindrum
01[03:06] <spazer> doesn't make sense at all
[03:06] <gAOxI> which makes your theory
01[03:06] <spazer> yeah, but what's the relation to the alien?
[03:06] <gAOxI> about them being contenders right
[03:06] <gAOxI> survival
[03:06] <gAOxI> strategy
[03:06] <gAOxI> they need it to survive/
01[03:06] <spazer> hm
01[03:06] <spazer> imo
01[03:06] <spazer> the teacher and the girlfriend have a deeper role
[03:07] <gAOxI> the girlfriend is part of the organization
01[03:07] <spazer> but I'll be damned if I can figure that one out
01[03:07] <spazer> and where the hell are the parents
[03:07] <gAOxI> i still find it kind of weird
[03:07] <gAOxI> uhh
[03:07] <gAOxI> i think they're like
[03:07] <gAOxI> hostages or held somewhere
01[03:07] <spazer> hostages?
[03:07] <gAOxI> cause the uncle said that they're not coming back
[03:08] <gAOxI> and he said hes can get the money
[03:08] <gAOxI> cause i think hes old enough to realize
[03:08] <gAOxI> if his parents are dead
[03:08] <gAOxI> they're not comign back
[03:08] <gAOxI> so they're alive
01[03:08] <spazer> but why hostages...
[03:08] <gAOxI> idnt
[03:08] <gAOxI> idk
[03:08] <gAOxI> ransom
01[03:08] <spazer> hostages for what
[03:08] <gAOxI> or something
01[03:08] <spazer> lol
[03:08] <gAOxI> idk
[03:08] <gAOxI> fk
[03:08] <gAOxI> lol
01[03:08] <spazer> if they wanted money
01[03:08] <spazer> he could magic it up
01[03:08] <spazer> like they showed in the ep
[03:08] <gAOxI> well he didnt magic it
01[03:08] <spazer> so... did they run away?
[03:08] <gAOxI> it was handed by
[03:08] <gAOxI> some guy
01[03:08] <spazer> that also seems unlikely though
[03:09] <gAOxI> they're alive for sure
01[03:09] <spazer> yeah
[03:09] <gAOxI> but they require
[03:09] <gAOxI> a lot of money to get to
[03:09] <gAOxI> hmm
[03:09] <gAOxI> i dont think the parents would abandon
[03:09] <gAOxI> them
01[03:09] <spazer> they didn't seem like the type
[03:09] <gAOxI> yea
01[03:09] <spazer> especially because of the flashback
[03:09] <gAOxI> yes
01[03:10] <spazer> so their disappearance is suspecrt
[03:10] <Wala> ij
[03:10] <Wala> ok
[03:10] <gAOxI> yes
[03:10] <Wala> finished
[03:10] <Wala> what have you guys been talking about
[03:10] <blahz0r> porn
[03:10] <gAOxI> read everything
[03:10] <gAOxI> and you'll catch up
01[03:10] <spazer> long discussion rofl
[03:10] <gAOxI> to the discussion
01[03:10] <spazer> so
01[03:10] <spazer> what role does ringo play
[03:10] <Wala> ahhh
[03:10] <gAOxI> hmm
01[03:10] <spazer> she likes penguins
01[03:10] <spazer> I can't decide if that's actually relevant
[03:10] <gAOxI> yea
[03:10] <gAOxI> i think thats the only reason why she is relevant
01[03:11] <spazer> they also focus on her family problems
01[03:11] <spazer> a LOT
[03:11] <gAOxI> yea
[03:11] <Wala> meh
[03:11] <gAOxI> when they were tailing her
[03:11] <Wala> too much speculation
[03:11] <Wala> :<
[03:11] <gAOxI> they didnt find anything
[03:12] <gAOxI> assuming that the name penguindrum is accurate
[03:12] <gAOxI> it probably has to do with a drum
[03:12] <gAOxI> or something
[03:12] <Wala> so
[03:12] <gAOxI> and i dont think ringo has that
[03:12] <Wala> you guys think it's a competition
01[03:12] <spazer> for the drum?
01[03:12] <spazer> probably
[03:12] <gAOxI> yea
[03:12] <gAOxI> i think the aliens need it for survival
[03:12] <Wala> what is the said drum
[03:12] <Wala> you guys think
[03:12] <gAOxI> and the "organization"
[03:12] <gAOxI> wants it for w/e reason
[03:12] <gAOxI> idk
[03:12] <gAOxI> i think its something tangible
01[03:12] <spazer> drum? who knows
[03:12] <Wala> who was the girl
[03:13] <Wala> that killed with a slingshot again?
[03:13] <Wala> I forgot what she did in ep 4
[03:13] <gAOxI> they were part of an organization
[03:13] <gAOxI> against the red haired
[03:13] <gAOxI> guy
[03:13] <Wala> oh
[03:13] <gAOxI> they confronted him in the cafre
[03:13] <Wala> lol yeah that
[03:13] <Wala> haha
[03:13] <gAOxI> and then ringo pushed her down
[03:13] <gAOxI> the stairs
[03:13] <gAOxI> for w/e reason
[03:13] <Wala> was the one dead
01[03:13] <spazer> was that ringo?
[03:13] <gAOxI> yes
01[03:13] <spazer> wtfff
[03:13] <Wala> part of the org too?
[03:13] <gAOxI> i think so
[03:13] <Wala> what if it wasn't her :<
[03:13] <gAOxI> wait lemme check
01[03:14] <spazer> you sure that girl is dead? =/
[03:14] <Wala> well
[03:14] <gAOxI> she seemeed
[03:14] <Wala> unless the wounded girl has some power too
[03:14] <gAOxI> really scared
[03:14] <Wala> I don't doubt she'll not be dead
[03:14] <gAOxI> of that slingshot
[03:14] <Wala> or at least hurt enough
[03:14] <Wala> it has laser targetting too!
01[03:14] <spazer> I assumed the slingshot had a different purpose
[03:14] <Wala> hm
[03:14] <Wala> perhaps memory erasure?
[03:15] <gAOxI> ok i looked at the scene again
[03:15] <gAOxI> the person had like
01[03:15] <spazer> ohhhhh
[03:15] <gAOxI> girl legs
01[03:15] <spazer> maybe
[03:15] <gAOxI> and a trench coat
[03:15] <gAOxI> or beige
[03:15] <gAOxI> color
[03:15] <blahz0r> spoilers omgawd
[03:15] <Wala> so high likelyhood it was ringo
[03:15] <gAOxI> at the end
[03:15] <Wala> that's ep 4 blah
[03:15] <gAOxI> of the episode
[03:15] <gAOxI> ringo said
01[03:15] <spazer> but in the subs for this ep
[03:15] <gAOxI> in her diary
[03:15] <gAOxI> that
[03:15] <Wala> ya
[03:15] <Wala> Unmei
[03:15] <Wala> I think she said that
01[03:15] <spazer> wounded girl says "I saw him"
[03:15] <gAOxI> girl in red heels
[03:15] <gAOxI> and the said
[03:15] <gAOxI> DESTINY
[03:15] <gAOxI> no it was in ringo's diary
[03:15] <Wala> or destiny
[03:15] <Wala> lol
[03:15] <Wala> well
[03:16] <Wala> gao
[03:16] <Wala> what did the diary say
[03:16] <Wala> exactly
01[03:16] <spazer> memory erasure makes sense though, considering the news we hear in this ep
[03:16] <gAOxI> ok this is what it said
[03:16] <gAOxI> Akasaka Mitsuke Station
[03:16] <Wala> iirc
[03:16] <gAOxI> a girl in red heels
[03:16] <gAOxI> then she put the stamp
[03:16] <gAOxI> DESTINY
[03:16] <Wala> does it say anything about
[03:16] <gAOxI> the girl she pushed down
[03:16] <Wala> pushing,killing, etc
[03:16] <gAOxI> had red heels
[03:16] <Wala> it could be
[03:16] <gAOxI> no
[03:16] <gAOxI> it doesnt
[03:16] <Wala> ringo only witnessed it
01[03:16] <spazer> it didn't say anything about that
[03:17] <Wala> and that 'satified' her
[03:17] <gAOxI> k wait
01[03:17] <spazer> did she witness that?
[03:17] <gAOxI> lemme screen shot this shit
01[03:17] <spazer> wat
[03:17] <Wala> no
[03:17] <Wala> she could be the culprit
01[03:17] <spazer> I think not
[03:17] <Wala> or she could only be an witness
01[03:17] <spazer> because of ep 5
01[03:17] <spazer> "I saw him"
01[03:17] <spazer> means it wasn't ringo
[03:17] <Wala> letme rewatch the hospital scene again
01[03:17] <spazer> imo there will be another faction introduced later on
[03:17] <Wala> I want to talk something about it too
[03:17] <gAOxI> http://imgur.com/ac29h
01[03:18] <spazer> since there's still another penguin and logo
01[03:18] <spazer> that we haven't seen
[03:18] <Wala> what penguin
01[03:18] <gAOxI> spazer
[03:18] <Wala> I don't remember an actually pengin
[03:18] <gAOxI> its imposssible
01[03:18] <spazer> its in the op
[03:18] <gAOxI> she was pushed from behind
[03:18] <gAOxI> she saw noone
[03:18] <Wala> you mean the slingshot bullet?
[03:18] <gAOxI> she was in the middle of the escalator
[03:18] <gAOxI> when she was pushed
01[03:19] <spazer> she said
01[03:19] <spazer> she saw someone right before the accident
01[03:19] <spazer> only thing is
01[03:19] <spazer> we have no idea wtf she's referring to
[03:20] <gAOxI> ringo is definitely
[03:20] <gAOxI> did something to the girl in red heels
[03:20] <Wala> why
[03:20] <Wala> you think so
[03:20] <gAOxI> from the diary
[03:20] <Wala> could be she just saw
[03:20] <Wala> also
[03:20] <gAOxI> well
[03:20] <Wala> remember the guy who handed red guy money
[03:20] <gAOxI> yea
[03:20] <Wala> hmm
[03:20] <Wala> so all we know is
[03:20] <Wala> girl saw a man/guy before accident
[03:21] <Wala> no implication of culprit
[03:21] <Wala> it's someone she knows
[03:21] <Wala> or saw
[03:21] <gAOxI> ok wait
[03:21] <Wala> some knowledge
[03:21] <gAOxI> i got another thing
[03:21] <Wala> because she uses a pronoun to refer to him
[03:22] <gAOxI> http://imgur.com/lQwF2
[03:22] <gAOxI> ok look at that
[03:22] <gAOxI> it might not be ringo
[03:22] <gAOxI> but
01[03:22] <spazer> is that uniform?
[03:22] <gAOxI> it is a girl
[03:22] <gAOxI> i dont know
[03:22] <gAOxI> thats all you see
01[03:22] <spazer> well, the culprit wears leggings
[03:22] <Wala> that
[03:22] <Wala> is the girl
[03:22] <Wala> the girl with slingshot
[03:22] <gAOxI> really?
[03:23] <Wala> she has beige overcoat with black inner thing
[03:23] <Wala> except in the hospital
[03:23] <Wala> she has another red clothing underneathe it
[03:23] <Wala> but that could just not be shown
[03:23] <Wala> she also has that button on side
[03:23] <gAOxI> DUDE
[03:23] <gAOxI> wow
[03:23] <gAOxI> k it was the girl
[03:23] <gAOxI> so after she failed the mission
[03:23] <gAOxI> the organization
[03:23] <gAOxI> "disposed of her"
[03:23] <gAOxI> using memory
[03:23] <gAOxI> erase
[03:23] <Wala> what was the mission again?
01[03:23] <spazer> she failed?
[03:23] <Wala> jesus I need to watch again
[03:24] <Wala> -_-
[03:24] <gAOxI> her mission was to do something to kanba
[03:24] <gAOxI> but she failed
[03:24] <gAOxI> and said that
[03:24] <Wala> what was she attempting to do
[03:24] <gAOxI> now he thinks im a roublesome
[03:24] <gAOxI> woman
[03:24] <gAOxI> troublesome*
[03:24] <gAOxI> whatever she did
[03:24] <gAOxI> she failed
[03:24] <gAOxI> the organization
[03:24] <gAOxI> was after kanba
[03:24] <gAOxI> i think it was like
[03:24] <Wala> but she has no knowledge
[03:24] <gAOxI> something something broken hearts
[03:24] <Wala> she think it's just the group of girls
[03:24] <Wala> yeah broken hearts
[03:25] <Wala> as for the diary
[03:25] <Wala> something is clearly written around 'station' and 'heels' part
[03:25] <Wala> so it could be anything
[03:25] <Wala> also it doesn't refer to the escalator
01[03:25] <spazer> that scene where black haired girl get introduced is reeeeally short
01[03:25] <spazer> no clues as to what her mission is
[03:25] <Wala> ya
[03:26] <gAOxI> wait
[03:26] <Wala> k
[03:26] <gAOxI> the guy got a text
[03:26] <Wala> rewatcing ep 4 a bit
[03:26] <gAOxI> from the "organization"
[03:26] <gAOxI> it said
[03:26] <gAOxI> that they know what hes looking for
[03:27] <Wala> btw
[03:27] <Wala> the opera part of 4
[03:27] <Wala> did that contain anything important
01[03:27] <spazer> doubt it
[03:27] <gAOxI> not sure
[03:27] <Wala> other than Ringo's fantasies (and nightmare)
01[03:27] <spazer> its her delusions mostly
[03:27] <Wala> I skipped >>
[03:27] <gAOxI> association of romantic victims
[03:27] <gAOxI> ok
[03:27] <gAOxI> thats what its called
[03:27] <gAOxI> ringo could be in that group
01[03:27] <spazer> THAT SCENE SO SHORT
[03:27] <gAOxI> cause she could be a romantic victim
01[03:28] <spazer> but I thought they were specifically kanba's ex-gf's
[03:28] <gAOxI> thats true
[03:28] <gAOxI> but
[03:28] <gAOxI> when the middle girl
[03:28] <gAOxI> aka the girl who got pushed
[03:28] <gAOxI> said that she failed
[03:28] <gAOxI> she was talking to someone on the phone
[03:28] <gAOxI> and she said somethign like
[03:28] <gAOxI> its according to plan
[03:28] <gAOxI> blah blah blah
01[03:29] <spazer> where does she say she failed?
01[03:29] <spazer> I don't see that
[03:29] <gAOxI> episode 4
[03:29] <gAOxI> near the end
[03:29] <gAOxI> before she gets pushed
[03:29] <gAOxI> shes in the park
[03:29] <gAOxI> talking on the phone
01[03:29] <spazer> she just says she thinks he thinks she's troublesome
[03:29] <Wala> ok
[03:29] <Wala> I'm watching ep 4
[03:29] <Wala> and at the part
[03:29] <gAOxI> "we much crush him at once"
[03:30] <Wala> where it switches from the pond scene to her diary
[03:30] <Wala> it say 9 PM before station part
[03:30] <Wala> and Escalator before heel part
[03:30] <Wala> wait no
[03:30] <Wala> it says elevator
[03:30] <Wala> I don't think Japanese people refer escalator as elevator
01[03:30] <spazer> its escalator
[03:31] <gAOxI> that girl who got pushed was trying to get something from kanba
[03:31] <gAOxI> we didnt see what she tried to do
[03:31] <gAOxI> but it was troublesome
[03:31] <gAOxI> she failed
[03:31] <gAOxI> told her boss
[03:31] <gAOxI> since she has ulterior motives
01[03:31] <spazer> she didn't say she failed thoughhhh
[03:31] <gAOxI> can it be assumed?
01[03:31] <spazer> not that I see anyways ~_~
[03:31] <gAOxI> since she got pushed
01[03:31] <spazer> but that could be part of the plan
[03:31] <gAOxI> by the red haired girl
[03:31] <gAOxI> part of the plan to use her
01[03:31] <spazer> or as you said
01[03:31] <spazer> she's served her purpose
[03:31] <gAOxI> didnt work out
[03:32] <gAOxI> so they disposed
[03:32] <gAOxI> yea
01[03:32] <spazer> nah, I mean she did her part, and was successful, so they got rid of her
[03:32] <gAOxI> what did they get out of him though
[03:32] <gAOxI> hmm
01[03:32] <spazer> who knows lol
[03:32] <gAOxI> thats the question
01[03:32] <spazer> zero time spent on that scene
[03:32] <gAOxI> kanba didnt act any different
01[03:32] <spazer> he learned of the association's formation
[03:32] <Wala> hmm
01[03:32] <spazer> that's about it
[03:32] <Wala> funny
[03:33] <Wala> after she's pushed down
[03:33] <Wala> ringo's voice can be heard
01[03:33] <spazer> maybe the goal was to get the other two girls closer to him?
[03:33] <Wala> and in that
[03:33] <gAOxI> yea
[03:33] <gAOxI> i told you
[03:33] <Wala> she says escalator
[03:33] <Wala> not elevator
[03:33] <Wala> yet in the diary
[03:33] <Wala> it clearly reads elevator
[03:33] <gAOxI> how did ringo get home
[03:33] <gAOxI> from the pond
[03:33] <Wala> hmm
[03:33] <Wala> don't know
[03:33] <Wala> and doesn't matter I think
[03:33] <gAOxI> that is very coincidental
01[03:33] <spazer> wala, in my subs, the diary doesn't mention elevator/escalator
[03:33] <gAOxI> to have the name of the station
[03:33] <gAOxI> already written
[03:34] <Wala> why
[03:34] <gAOxI> i got subbed by gg
[03:34] <Wala> ?
01[03:34] <spazer> more evidence that the diary is legit imo
[03:34] <gAOxI> yea
[03:34] <gAOxI> this is what i think
01[03:34] <spazer> although the cake thing still bugs me
[03:34] <gAOxI> she pre-writes
[03:34] <gAOxI> what is going to happen to her
[03:34] <gAOxI> the day before
[03:34] <gAOxI> or something
[03:34] <gAOxI> then she reads it on the day of
[03:34] <gAOxI> all she did at the end
[03:34] <gAOxI> ofr the day
[03:34] <gAOxI> was stamp it
[03:34] <gAOxI> like usual
[03:35] <gAOxI> right?
01[03:35] <spazer> I'd say its pretty clear that she's not writing it at the end of the day
[03:35] <gAOxI> yes
01[03:35] <spazer> after all, we got a good look at it in ep 4
[03:35] <gAOxI> so she clearly had that station
[03:35] <gAOxI> name
[03:35] <Wala> brb
[03:35] <gAOxI> before the end of the day
01[03:35] <spazer> she had an entire schedule planned out
[03:35] <gAOxI> yes
[03:35] <Wala> she had 9pm schedule
[03:35] <Wala> at 3pm
[03:35] <Wala> presumeably before the picnic
[03:35] <gAOxI> so she had everything written down
[03:35] <Wala> unless she somehow wrote during it
[03:35] <Wala> brb
[03:36] <gAOxI> so it can be concluded
[03:36] <gAOxI> that
[03:36] <gAOxI> either ringo or the organization pushed her down
[03:36] <gAOxI> but i think its the organization
[03:36] <gAOxI> and ringo saw it?
01[03:36] <spazer> I agree
01[03:36] <spazer> unsure about ringo
[03:36] <gAOxI> on the way home
01[03:36] <spazer> all the goddamn diary says is a girl in red heels
[03:36] <gAOxI> yea
[03:36] <Wala> not ringo
[03:36] <Wala> unless
01[03:36] <spazer> how does this have any bearing on the teacher?
01[03:37] <spazer> wtffffffffffffffff
[03:37] <gAOxI> so she witnessed it
[03:37] <gAOxI> no fucking idea
01[03:37] <spazer> lol
01[03:37] <spazer> I would say that she's not writing the diary then
[03:37] <gAOxI> somehow i think its all interconnected
01[03:37] <spazer> probably
[03:37] <gAOxI> the actress doesnt like the teacher
01[03:37] <spazer> but the connections are so hazy right now
[03:37] <gAOxI> she has ulterior motives
01[03:37] <spazer> agreed
01[03:37] <spazer> I think she is the third party
[03:37] <gAOxI> hmm
[03:38] <gAOxI> out of the ways she could've handled the ringo situation
[03:38] <gAOxI> i think she knows ringo is not an ally
01[03:38] <spazer> yes
[03:38] <gAOxI> and the fact that she
01[03:38] <spazer> ep 4 shows that
[03:38] <gAOxI> predicts everything ringo does
[03:38] <gAOxI> how she does that
[03:38] <gAOxI> we dont know
01[03:38] <spazer> this is why I think she has her own diary
01[03:39] <spazer> or something similar to that
[03:39] <gAOxI> that means
[03:39] <gAOxI> ringo doesnt have the penguindrum
[03:39] <gAOxI> or atleast her diary isnt the drum
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[03:39] <gAOxI> because then the alien could've went for the actress
01[03:39] <spazer> urghhhh
[03:39] <Wala> huh
[03:39] <Wala> is there a particular reason
[03:39] <Wala> why the skunk is branded with penguin logo
01[03:39] <spazer> who knows lol
[03:39] <gAOxI> maybe
01[03:39] <spazer> ~
[03:40] <gAOxI> another thing fomr the organization
[03:40] <gAOxI> same with the guy who handed kanba the money
[03:40] <gAOxI> so he can not move
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[03:40] <Wala> 'he'?
01[03:40] <spazer> kanba obviously has things figured out
[03:40] <gAOxI> kanba cant move
[03:40] <gAOxI> or he didnt move
01[03:40] <spazer> he got access to the money somehow
[03:40] <gAOxI> because the guy in trenchcoat
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[03:40] <gAOxI> gave him money
01[03:40] <spazer> and since the other people are targeting him
[03:40] <gAOxI> in the penguin branded envelope
01[03:40] <spazer> that means he's a threat
[03:41] <gAOxI> yea
[03:41] <gAOxI> so there are 2 different organizations?
01[03:41] <spazer> I think so
01[03:41] <spazer> look at the op
01[03:41] <spazer> there are two penguin logos
01[03:41] <spazer> one "good" and one "evil"
[03:41] <gAOxI> so the ones after kanba
[03:41] <gAOxI> are bad
01[03:41] <spazer> the slingshot girl has the good logo though
[03:41] <gAOxI> wow
[03:41] <gAOxI> wtf
01[03:41] <spazer> yeah...
[03:41] <gAOxI> wait
[03:41] <gAOxI> yea
[03:41] <gAOxI> wait
01[03:41] <spazer> plus
01[03:41] <spazer> we haven't seen the fourth penguin
[03:42] <gAOxI> ok 2 logos
[03:42] <gAOxI> ones with the /
[03:42] <gAOxI> through the penguins face
[03:42] <gAOxI> and the other is like
[03:42] <Wala> also
[03:42] <gAOxI> a normal one
[03:42] <Wala> hmm
[03:42] <Wala> 'kare'
[03:43] <Wala> can refer to both gender no?
[03:43] <gAOxI> wait
[03:43] <Wala> hmm maybe not
01[03:43] <gAOxI> spazer
[03:43] <gAOxI> the slingshot girl has a bad
[03:43] <gAOxI> penguin logo
01[03:43] <spazer> does she?
01[03:43] <spazer> lemme rewatch
[03:43] <Wala> nvm kare
[03:43] <gAOxI> yea
[03:43] <Wala> is him
[03:43] <gAOxI> and its in red
[03:43] <gAOxI> so that means this doesnt undermine our current theory
01[03:44] <spazer> gao
[03:44] <gAOxI> WOW
[03:44] <gAOxI> WOWOWOW
[03:44] <gAOxI> WAIT
01[03:44] <spazer> that logo is the good logo
[03:44] <gAOxI> are you sure?
01[03:44] <spazer> it doesn't have the horns
[03:44] <gAOxI> the other one has horns?
[03:44] <gAOxI> wtf
01[03:44] <spazer> check the op
01[03:44] <spazer> the fourth penguin is black
01[03:44] <spazer> and it gets a diff logo
[03:45] <gAOxI> where is 4th peng?
[03:45] <Wala> you mean
[03:45] <Wala> opening?
01[03:45] <spazer> the black one
01[03:45] <spazer> yes
[03:45] <Wala> the song and stuff?
01[03:45] <spazer> yes
[03:45] <gAOxI> oh
[03:45] <gAOxI> the one that looks like a hat?
[03:45] <gAOxI> the hat*
[03:46] <gAOxI> with big eybrows
[03:46] <gAOxI> eye
01[03:46] <spazer> it looks like the hat?
[03:46] <Wala> uh
[03:46] <gAOxI> no
[03:46] <Wala> the 'hair'?
[03:46] <gAOxI> there are 3 logos
[03:46] <gAOxI> 3 logos
[03:46] <gAOxI> 1
[03:46] <gAOxI> the one with the hair
[03:46] <gAOxI> 2nd
[03:46] <gAOxI> the one with the /
[03:46] <gAOxI> across the face
[03:46] <gAOxI> 3rd
[03:46] <gAOxI> the eyebrow penguin
[03:46] <gAOxI> that is black
[03:46] <gAOxI> ?
[03:46] <Wala> ahhh
[03:46] <Wala> ya
[03:46] <Wala> those three logos
[03:46] <gAOxI> now
[03:46] <Wala> but how are we certain
[03:46] <Wala> those denote good/evil/etc
[03:46] <gAOxI> the girl with the slingshot had the
[03:47] <gAOxI> 2nd logo
[03:47] <gAOxI> however wait
[03:47] <gAOxI> a second
[03:47] <gAOxI> in the flashback
[03:47] <gAOxI> with thee father
[03:47] <gAOxI> and kanba watching over
01[03:47] <spazer> we're not sure wala
[03:47] <gAOxI> his sister
[03:47] <gAOxI> the father has
[03:47] <gAOxI> the 2nd logo
[03:47] <gAOxI> on his back
01[03:47] <spazer> I'm just referring to it as good/evil because its convenient
[03:47] <Wala> also in op
[03:47] <Wala> who's the pink haired dude
[03:47] <Wala> mastermind?
[03:48] <gAOxI> wait
[03:48] <gAOxI> klemme watch op
[03:48] <Wala> or girl
01[03:48] <spazer> gao, I considered the logo with the / to be the same as the 'hair'
[03:48] <Wala> no dude
[03:48] <gAOxI> why?
01[03:48] <spazer> other than the coloring, isn't the outline the same?
[03:48] <gAOxI> no
[03:48] <Wala> no
[03:49] <Wala> I think eyebrow penguin just refer to the survival strategy girl
[03:49] <gAOxI> the hair one
[03:49] <Darth_> lol
[03:49] <Darth_> artosis
[03:49] <gAOxI> has 3 spikes
[03:49] <gAOxI> the / has
[03:49] <gAOxI> 2 spikes
[03:49] <Darth_> holy f- .. molly
[03:49] <gAOxI> i'll show you
01[03:49] <spazer> christ
[03:49] <gAOxI> wait
01[03:49] <spazer> oh, and the one thing we haven't discussed
01[03:49] <spazer> WTF IS THE SUBWAY SHIT ALL ABOUT
[03:49] <gAOxI> http://imgur.com/rcAWe
01[03:50] <spazer> lol
[03:50] <gAOxI> no idea
[03:50] <gAOxI> look at that
[03:50] <gAOxI> thats the 2nd logo
01[03:50] <spazer> goddamn it
[03:50] <gAOxI> the first penguin showned in the op
[03:50] <Wala> um
01[03:50] <spazer> I think the 2nd logo is the corporation
[03:50] <gAOxI> is the 1st logo
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01[03:51] <spazer> which logo does the corporation that makes all the shit in this show use
[03:51] <gAOxI> guess i was wrong about the spikes
[03:51] <gAOxI> but they're different
[03:51] <gAOxI> i dont know
[03:51] <gAOxI> the girl with slingshot has
[03:51] <gAOxI> "/"
[03:51] <gAOxI> the father has slash
[03:51] <gAOxI> the package
[03:51] <gAOxI> given to kouma
[03:51] <gAOxI> is normal
[03:51] <gAOxI> ?
[03:51] <gAOxI> http://imgur.com/aIJQO
[03:51] <gAOxI> heres normal
[03:52] <gAOxI> wait no
[03:52] <gAOxI> that penguin logo
[03:52] <gAOxI> is the same with the girl with slingshot
[03:52] <Wala> ?
[03:52] <gAOxI> the penguin logo on the envelope
[03:52] <gAOxI> with the money
[03:52] <gAOxI> given to kouma
[03:52] <gAOxI> so he doesnt have to move
[03:53] <gAOxI> is the same logo
[03:53] <gAOxI> as the girl with the slingshot
[03:53] <gAOxI> so maybe the logos dont differentiate?
01[03:53] <spazer> I think logo 2 is the corporation
[03:53] <Wala> omg
[03:53] <gAOxI> cause i doubt the same organization trying to get "him" is helping kouma at the same time
[03:53] <Wala> when you guys said 'move'
[03:53] <Wala> I thought you guys meant a strategic move
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01[03:53] <spazer> lol
[03:53] <Wala> not the move move
[03:53] <Wala> lol
[03:53] <gAOxI> lolol
[03:54] <Wala> btw
[03:54] <Wala> I like in her angels pic with dad
[03:54] <Wala> it suddenly turns into horror
[03:54] <Wala> lol
[03:54] <gAOxI> lol
[03:54] <gAOxI> why do they focus on ringo's family problems
[03:54] <gAOxI> soo much
[03:54] <gAOxI> why
01[03:54] <spazer> some plot significance obviously
[03:54] <gAOxI> yea
01[03:54] <spazer> in the first ep
[03:54] <Darth_> wow
[03:54] <Darth_> discussion on penguindrum
[03:54] <gAOxI> but what is the significance
01[03:55] <spazer> doesn't the narration mention that everyone is fucked or w/e
[03:55] <gAOxI> really
[03:55] <gAOxI> wtf
[03:55] <Darth_> how bou all them logos in this ep eh?
[03:55] <Darth_> and wtf was up with that slingshot gun at the end
[03:55] <Darth_> lol
[03:55] <Darth_> laser sight slingshot
[03:56] <Wala> http://i.imgur.com/GNXK5.jpg
[03:56] <Wala> either the animators are lazy
[03:56] <Wala> meh
[03:57] <Wala> think they are just lazy
[03:57] <Wala> it's written backwards
[03:57] <Wala> at least every other page
[03:57] <Darth_> lol
[03:57] <Darth_> didnt notice
01[03:57] <spazer> lazy prob lol
[03:57] <Wala> ya definitely
[03:57] <Wala> lazy~~
[03:57] <gAOxI> ok
[03:57] <gAOxI> so
[03:57] <gAOxI> in the beginning episode
[03:58] <gAOxI> where did it say
[03:58] <gAOxI> everyone was fucked
01[03:59] <spazer> there was a bunch of talk about fate
[03:59] <gAOxI> kouma hates the word fate
[03:59] <Darth_> holy
[03:59] <gAOxI> and that ringo loves the word fate
[03:59] <gAOxI> ?
[03:59] <Darth_> hellions
[03:59] <gAOxI> souma*
[03:59] <gAOxI> AND
[03:59] <gAOxI> in the beginning episode
[03:59] <gAOxI> there were 2 kids
[03:59] <gAOxI> talking about
[03:59] <gAOxI> shit
[03:59] <gAOxI> does it apply?
[04:00] <gAOxI> they wer etalking about apples
[04:00] <gAOxI> and stuff
[04:00] <gAOxI> interconnecting worlds
[04:00] <Darth_> ringo
01[04:00] <spazer> ep 2, there is a giant sign with the normal penguin logo
[04:00] <Darth_> best char
01[04:00] <spazer> ___group Inc.
[04:00] <gAOxI> so thats the name of the organization?
01[04:01] <spazer> saa
[04:01] <gAOxI> btw
[04:01] <gAOxI> in the 2nd ep
[04:01] <gAOxI> you see the actress in the magazine
[04:01] <gAOxI> so shes really famous
[04:02] <Darth_> man
[04:02] <Darth_> u reading so deep into this
[04:02] <gAOxI> btw all the stuff in her diary
[04:02] <gAOxI> is
[04:03] <gAOxI> pre written
01[04:03] <spazer> the line I was talking about in ep 1:
01[04:03] <spazer> "because, ever since that day, none of us had a future"
[04:03] <gAOxI> none of us
[04:03] <gAOxI> refering to her family?
[04:03] <gAOxI> or what
01[04:03] <spazer> "the only thing we knew was that we would never amount to anything"
[04:03] <gAOxI> oh
[04:03] <gAOxI> you meano
[04:03] <gAOxI> yea
[04:03] <gAOxI> k
01[04:04] <spazer> I dunno if this refers to pre-hat times though
01[04:04] <spazer> hard to say
[04:04] <gAOxI> also
[04:04] <gAOxI> ringo = apple
[04:04] <gAOxI> in japanese?
01[04:04] <spazer> yes
[04:04] <Darth_> mind=blown
[04:04] <Darth_> but not really
[04:05] <MichaelEU> is this still about penguindrum?
[04:05] <gAOxI> yea
[04:05] <Wala> have we seen someone who is pink-haired?
[04:05] <Darth_> ye
[04:05] <MichaelEU> ok
01[04:05] <gAOxI> spazer
[04:05] <gAOxI> go to 5:36
[04:05] <MichaelEU> Gotta watch that one of these days
01[04:05] <spazer> no wala
[04:05] <gAOxI> of episode 1
[04:05] <gAOxI> 2 kids talking about stuff
[04:05] <gAOxI> about apples
[04:05] <gAOxI> which also is ringo in japanese
[04:05] <gAOxI> i think its too much
[04:05] <gAOxI> to be a coincidence
[04:05] <gAOxI> imo
01[04:05] <spazer> oh that conversation
01[04:06] <spazer> I didn't even think of that lol
[04:06] <Wala> ringo's parents divorced?
[04:06] <Wala> and dad remarried?
[04:06] <gAOxI> why would the show it
[04:06] <gAOxI> maybe
[04:06] <Wala> with a child named Aoi?
[04:06] <gAOxI> since he was talking on the phone
[04:06] <gAOxI> yea
[04:06] <gAOxI> exactly
[04:06] <gAOxI> thats probably why her family is like that
[04:06] <gAOxI> i doubt its because they're busy
[04:06] <gAOxI> well
[04:06] <gAOxI> thats part of the reason
[04:06] <gAOxI> but not entirely
[04:06] <Wala> since her dad couldn't remember the memoery Ringo had
[04:06] <gAOxI> yea
[04:06] <Wala> either he forgot it because he doesn't cherish it anymore
[04:07] <gAOxI> yea
[04:07] <Wala> hm
[04:07] <Wala> if it's implanted somehow
[04:07] <Wala> it gets too complicated
01[04:07] <spazer> those kids
01[04:07] <spazer> talked about another world
[04:07] <gAOxI> yes
01[04:07] <spazer> but I don't know how much of that is foreshadowing
01[04:07] <spazer> and how much is just reference to the galaxy railway
[04:08] <gAOxI> wait
[04:08] <gAOxI> is ringo's mom dead or alive
01[04:08] <spazer> never seen her
[04:08] <Darth_> alive
[04:08] <Darth_> afaik
01[04:08] <spazer> but ringo says she comes home late
[04:08] <gAOxI> hmm
[04:08] <Wala> alive
[04:08] <Wala> she's just a career woman
[04:08] <Darth_> she was in one of those episodes
[04:08] <Wala> I think
[04:08] <Wala> she was in ep 4
[04:08] <Darth_> ye
[04:08] <Wala> as she was making the toast
[04:08] <Darth_> 3 or 4
01[04:08] <spazer> oh yeah
[04:08] <Wala> 3
01[04:08] <spazer> since her dad only gets visitation days
01[04:09] <spazer> it would make sense that the mom is alive
[04:09] <gAOxI> visitation days
[04:09] <gAOxI> means they're divorced
[04:09] <gAOxI> ?
01[04:09] <spazer> yeah
01[04:09] <spazer> so mom has custody
[04:09] <gAOxI> wait i remember now
[04:09] <gAOxI> yea
[04:09] <gAOxI> ringo lives with her mom
[04:09] <Wala> also
[04:09] <Wala> the pink haired dude in op
[04:09] <Wala> also has same eyes the Alien
[04:10] <gAOxI> oh that guy
[04:10] <gAOxI> i think hes probably the leader
[04:10] <Darth_> im more interested in the 2 other chicks in the ED
[04:10] <gAOxI> of the organization
[04:10] <Darth_> more penguin hat people
[04:10] <gAOxI> its starting to come together imo
[04:10] <gAOxI> its like
[04:10] <gAOxI> pink haired guy
[04:10] <gAOxI> and his organization
[04:10] <gAOxI> vs a ragtag bunch of people
[04:10] <gAOxI> trying to find
[04:10] <gAOxI> the penguindrum
[04:10] <gAOxI> ?
01[04:10] <spazer> multiple factions
[04:11] <gAOxI> and then there is a 3rd faction
[04:11] <gAOxI> which so far only includes the actress
[04:11] <Darth_> WOW
[04:11] <Darth_> totalbiscuit looks nothing like i imaged he would
[04:11] <Darth_> lol
01[04:11] <spazer> lol
[04:12] <Darth_> wtf gom
[04:12] <Darth_> only got left audio for interview
[04:12] <Darth_> ><
[04:12] <gAOxI> do the logos have significance?
[04:12] <Darth_> ob
[04:12] <Darth_> v
01[04:13] <spazer> they denote factions
[04:13] <gAOxI> have we seen anyone
01[04:13] <spazer> normal is obv the alien
[04:13] <gAOxI> that means
[04:13] <gAOxI> the family's
01[04:13] <spazer> because penguins 1-3 all look like that
[04:13] <gAOxI> father
[04:13] <gAOxI> is on the bad side
01[04:13] <spazer> the slash penguin I am undecided on
[04:13] <gAOxI> ok
[04:13] <gAOxI> the slash penguin
[04:13] <gAOxI> the father has a slash penguin
[04:13] <gAOxI> logo
[04:14] <gAOxI> so that could explain why hes away
[04:14] <gAOxI> sorta
[04:14] <gAOxI> they're on different factions
[04:17] <Wala> what is Tabuki's relationship with Ringo
[04:17] <Wala> neighbors?
[04:17] <Wala> adopted son?
[04:18] <Wala> the father's other child that's not Aoi?
[04:18] <Darth_> they used to be neighbours i thought
01[04:18] <spazer> neighbors sounds right

In the diary, it cleary says 'elevator, girl in red heels'. However, the accident happens on the escalator. But, the voice-over of Ringo also says escalator.

+ Show Spoiler [Pond diary image] +

Also to note, the person who pushed her is probably the one who was on the phone with the victim, and later with the slingshot. The pusher's beige overcoat with the black inside clothing matches clothes worn by the slingshot girl, even the buttons. However this could be a common dress appearance. Also the pusher's shoes don't get shown. Her heels could be red as well.

So either the diary is wrong, which is highly unlikely, or she read/remembered it incorrectly. Or could it be even that the diary changes?

Now to discuss whether the diary refers to Shouma or Tabuki.

+ Show Spoiler [Curry diary image] +

On the top left is the diary entry for the curry incident. it says 'Today, I went to Tabuki's home and we ate my hand-made curry together.' Normally one would infer 'we' refers to Tabuki and writer of the diary, Ringo, but it doesn't mean that it can't be, however awkward it is.

Coupled with the suspicious event with her first kiss with Shouma, I also think that Shouma is the target of all if not most of all actions that doesn't specify a person in the diary. Unfortunately, the diary's content was not shown on the pond incident except for 'at the bank of ____, first kiss'. That picture was also where the elevator/escalator incident was written. The content of the diary was also not shown on the 5th episode.

How did Ringo's family come to know Tabuki? Just a neighbor? Tabuki and Ringo's father share similar hair color I think, maybe same. Perhaps Tabuki's the dad's child from the marriage before. In his conversation while having lunch with ringo he says, "夜は君と食べるから。よかったら、娘さん、青いちゃんどうしかな" which I think means Aoi is daughter of someone he's seeing (or re-married), not his daughter. Or Tabuki's an illegitimate child. :<
+ Show Spoiler [Tabuki's Hair] +
+ Show Spoiler [Father's Hair] +

[04:36] <Wala> we are not done
[04:36] <Wala> discussing!
[04:36] <gAOxI_> ok
[04:36] <gAOxI_> lets go
[04:36] <gAOxI_> on
[04:36] <gAOxI_> lol
[04:37] <gAOxI_> [04:33] <gAOxI> this could imply that ringo
[04:37] <gAOxI_> shes on slash penguin
[04:37] <gAOxI_> side
[04:37] <gAOxI_> or at least
[04:37] <gAOxI_> yea
[04:37] * gAOxI_ is now known as gAOxI
[04:37] <gAOxI> it makes sense sort of
[04:37] <gAOxI> because normal logo is aiming for ringo
[04:37] <gAOxI> who is on the slash penguin side
[04:38] <gAOxI> that pink haired person could be the leader of
[04:38] <gAOxI> the slash penguin side

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[05:40] <gAOxI> she made herself look like a troublesome woman
[05:40] <gAOxI> infront of kanba
[05:40] <gAOxI> whether she failed or suceeded, we dont know
[05:41] <Wala> http://i.imgur.com/CvR0R.jpg
[05:41] <gAOxI> then she told the organization taht she failed
[05:41] <Wala> http://i.imgur.com/lflZa.jpg
[05:41] <gAOxI> and they disposed of her
[05:41] <Wala> those two
[05:41] <gAOxI> wow
[05:41] <gAOxI> i guess
[05:41] <gAOxI> k
[05:41] <gAOxI> nvm
[05:41] <Wala> she says
[05:41] <Wala> we must dispose of him quickly
[05:41] <Wala> in both conversations
[05:41] <gAOxI> i know
[05:41] <gAOxI> but like
[05:42] <gAOxI> it sounded like the victim
[05:42] <gAOxI> failed her mission
[05:42] <gAOxI> or if she suceeded it
[05:42] <Wala> I agree
[05:42] <gAOxI> w/e the reason
[05:42] <gAOxI> they were done with her
[05:42] <gAOxI> as in she was no more use
[05:42] <gAOxI> therefore they diposed of her
[05:42] <gAOxI> and what you said before
[05:42] <gAOxI> memory
[05:42] <gAOxI> erase
[05:42] <gAOxI> most likely
[05:42] <Wala> waut now
[05:43] <Wala> I don't think she failed at all
[05:43] <Darth|afk> gstl still going?
[05:43] <gAOxI> so what they were seeking from kanba
[05:43] <gAOxI> was information
[05:43] <Darth|afk> omfg
[05:43] <gAOxI> it just finished
[05:43] <Darth|afk> are u still talking about penguindrum
[05:43] <Wala> I don't know
[05:43] * Darth|afk is now known as Darth_
[05:43] <Wala> what she says is
[05:43] <Wala> well
[05:43] <Wala> she's question if doing what she did was really okay
[05:44] <Wala> and slingshot says 'what, why are you doubing, we must dispose of him'
[05:44] <Wala> so they get rid of victim because she might betray
[05:44] <Wala> or they have no use for her
[05:44] <gAOxI> or both
[05:44] <Wala> might be she failed, but I don't think she did
[05:44] <gAOxI> since it looks like they used her
[05:44] <Wala> well
[05:44] <gAOxI> because she was an ex gf of
[05:44] <Wala> in a sense she did
[05:44] <gAOxI> kanba
[05:44] <Wala> if she was not able to extract information, if that was what she was suppose to do
[05:44] <Wala> unknowingly
[05:45] <gAOxI> she used the organization of broken hearts
[05:45] <gAOxI> as a facade
[05:45] <gAOxI> to join kanba
[05:45] <gAOxI> and failed to extract info
[05:45] <gAOxI> thats what i thnk
[05:45] <Wala> or
[05:45] <Darth_> im assuming IM got rolled
[05:45] <Wala> the next move itself
[05:45] <gAOxI> yea
[05:45] <gAOxI> 4-1
[05:45] <Wala> was her fall itself
[05:45] <Darth_> lol
[05:45] <Wala> to make Kanba think in a certain way
[05:45] <gAOxI> so they tried to use her to get info
[05:45] <Wala> think that's quite possible as well
[05:45] <gAOxI> whether it worked or not
[05:45] <gAOxI> they would dispose her
[05:45] <Wala> they probably thought
[05:45] <Wala> ya
[05:45] <gAOxI> afterwords?
[05:45] <Wala> it wouln't work
[05:45] <gAOxI> afterwards*
[05:45] <gAOxI> yea
[05:45] <gAOxI> but they tried anyways
[05:45] <gAOxI> k
[05:46] <Wala> but original intention was her to be used as a catalyst anyways

Continuing on from the chatlog

• Ringo could be on the slash penguin side. The same side as kouma's father, and the girl with the slingshot
  
• The person who pushed the girl down the stairs is part of the slash penguin faction. The person who pushed her down like wala said is most likely the same girl who was talking to the victim on the phone.
  
• Slingshot girl wanted to extract information from Kanba, so she used the victim because she was an ex-gf of Kanba. Under the facade of the organization of broken hearts, she had a reason to be there. Whether or not she failed to extract information is up for dicussion.
  
• Whether or not the victim suceeded or failed did not matter. They were going to dispose of the victim anyways. ([05:44] <Wala> and slingshot says 'what, why are you doubing, we must dispose of him' / [05:44] <Wala> so they get rid of victim because she might betray)
  
• The slingshot is probably a memory eraser. They erased her memory, if they had gotten info from Kanba that would be great, if they didn't thats fine also.
  
• Slingshot girl is part of an organization that is probably looking for the penguindrum also, their faction uses the slash penguin logo.

lol