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On February 18 2011 03:01 ChrisXIV wrote:
As much as I like the Fishman Island Arc so far...I want it to end. The Straw Hats will obviously roflstomp through any opposition there, and I somehow doubt that the story will make any progress ( unless that princess plays an important role later on).
Fishman's strength
Human's strength
CP9
Pills
We have witnessed Jimbei's strength so if Hodi is about the same level of fishman than with pills it should be not surprising that this will be a tough fight. Jimbei's message to luffy even told him not to fight Hodi.
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On February 21 2011 09:39 terranghost wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2011 03:01 ChrisXIV wrote:
As much as I like the Fishman Island Arc so far...I want it to end. The Straw Hats will obviously roflstomp through any opposition there, and I somehow doubt that the story will make any progress ( unless that princess plays an important role later on). Fishman's strengthHuman's strengthCP9PillsWe have witnessed Jimbei's strength so if Hodi is about the same level of fishman than with pills it should be not surprising that this will be a tough fight. Jimbei's message to luffy even told him not to fight Hodi.
I dont understand why you linked those pages, it backs up the argument that hodi will be no match for luffy :\
If luffy can beat someone with 4000 douriki, then after 2 years of training he should destroy someone with 400x douriki. I doubt that jinbe's message was to stop luffy from getting himself hurt, but rather to not harm the relationship between human's and fishmen any further
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Looks like next weeks chapter will be exciting...
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On February 24 2011 01:14 Scaramanga wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2011 09:39 terranghost wrote:On February 18 2011 03:01 ChrisXIV wrote:
As much as I like the Fishman Island Arc so far...I want it to end. The Straw Hats will obviously roflstomp through any opposition there, and I somehow doubt that the story will make any progress ( unless that princess plays an important role later on). Fishman's strengthHuman's strengthCP9PillsWe have witnessed Jimbei's strength so if Hodi is about the same level of fishman than with pills it should be not surprising that this will be a tough fight. Jimbei's message to luffy even told him not to fight Hodi. I dont understand why you linked those pages, it backs up the argument that hodi will be no match for luffy :\ If luffy can beat someone with 4000 douriki, then after 2 years of training he should destroy someone with 400x douriki. I doubt that jinbe's message was to stop luffy from getting himself hurt, but rather to not harm the relationship between human's and fishmen any further
Well, don't you think Hodi will eat a lot of those pills in order to fight Luffy? Let's say he has 2000 douriki without pills, and then eats like 5-6...
And about the chapter:
+ Show Spoiler +Oda keeps building up stuff! Let the fighting start already! :D Dekken vs Luffy next! And also Luffy will probably meet up with Franky and Jinbe.
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On February 18 2011 03:20 Azuzu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2011 03:01 ChrisXIV wrote:
The Straw Hats will obviously roflstomp through any opposition there, and I somehow doubt that the story will make any progress ( unless that princess plays an important role later on). Edit: for some reason I laughed when he mentioned he hasn't washed the hand he touched the princess with for 10 years...
At least he's serious when it comes to love ;D
Looking forward to next week's chapter, battle time :0000
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Man im getting worried. If Luffy eats one of those pills and uses gear third he might die of old age when he finaly Reaches Raftel.
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WOW early chapter this week !!! Awesome stuff !!! :D
I want to see Hodi vs Zoro next ! and Dekken vs Luffy. Next week will be awesome !
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On February 24 2011 01:21 Zexion wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2011 01:14 Scaramanga wrote:On February 21 2011 09:39 terranghost wrote:On February 18 2011 03:01 ChrisXIV wrote:
As much as I like the Fishman Island Arc so far...I want it to end. The Straw Hats will obviously roflstomp through any opposition there, and I somehow doubt that the story will make any progress ( unless that princess plays an important role later on). Fishman's strengthHuman's strengthCP9PillsWe have witnessed Jimbei's strength so if Hodi is about the same level of fishman than with pills it should be not surprising that this will be a tough fight. Jimbei's message to luffy even told him not to fight Hodi. I dont understand why you linked those pages, it backs up the argument that hodi will be no match for luffy :\ If luffy can beat someone with 4000 douriki, then after 2 years of training he should destroy someone with 400x douriki. I doubt that jinbe's message was to stop luffy from getting himself hurt, but rather to not harm the relationship between human's and fishmen any further Well, don't you think Hodi will eat a lot of those pills in order to fight Luffy? Let's say he has 2000 douriki without pills, and then eats like 5-6... And about the chapter: + Show Spoiler +Oda keeps building up stuff! Let the fighting start already! :D Dekken vs Luffy next! And also Luffy will probably meet up with Franky and Jinbe.
And I think he warned Luffy, cuz Hodi is no match for Luffy. Srsly Hodi might die bcuz of a Pill-overdose. Jinbe just knows that ...
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On February 24 2011 01:14 Scaramanga wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2011 09:39 terranghost wrote:On February 18 2011 03:01 ChrisXIV wrote:
As much as I like the Fishman Island Arc so far...I want it to end. The Straw Hats will obviously roflstomp through any opposition there, and I somehow doubt that the story will make any progress ( unless that princess plays an important role later on). Fishman's strengthHuman's strengthCP9PillsWe have witnessed Jimbei's strength so if Hodi is about the same level of fishman than with pills it should be not surprising that this will be a tough fight. Jimbei's message to luffy even told him not to fight Hodi. I dont understand why you linked those pages, it backs up the argument that hodi will be no match for luffy :\ If luffy can beat someone with 4000 douriki, then after 2 years of training he should destroy someone with 400x douriki. I doubt that jinbe's message was to stop luffy from getting himself hurt, but rather to not harm the relationship between human's and fishmen any further
If a human (Lucchi) could have 4000 douriki then since fishmen are 10 times as strong Houdi could have 40k douriki, take that times 16 for 4 pills you would have a monster worth 640k douriki.
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if van dekker or w.e needed the other group to do this, while only a part of the straw hat crew took out the whole castle easily without really harming them, zoro and stuff is probably just going to wipe the floor with them.
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I'd be disappointed if their first real fight was anything other than a rapefest by straw hats. Otherwise it kinda makes the whole time skip training thing feel kinda pointless.
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On February 24 2011 03:58 Klockan3 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2011 01:14 Scaramanga wrote:On February 21 2011 09:39 terranghost wrote:On February 18 2011 03:01 ChrisXIV wrote:
As much as I like the Fishman Island Arc so far...I want it to end. The Straw Hats will obviously roflstomp through any opposition there, and I somehow doubt that the story will make any progress ( unless that princess plays an important role later on). Fishman's strengthHuman's strengthCP9PillsWe have witnessed Jimbei's strength so if Hodi is about the same level of fishman than with pills it should be not surprising that this will be a tough fight. Jimbei's message to luffy even told him not to fight Hodi. I dont understand why you linked those pages, it backs up the argument that hodi will be no match for luffy :\ If luffy can beat someone with 4000 douriki, then after 2 years of training he should destroy someone with 400x douriki. I doubt that jinbe's message was to stop luffy from getting himself hurt, but rather to not harm the relationship between human's and fishmen any further If a human (Lucchi) could have 4000 douriki then since fishmen are 10 times as strong Houdi could have 40k douriki, take that times 16 for 4 pills you would have a monster worth 640k douriki.
True, but Lucci wasn't just a regular human. Remember that he was the strongest member of one of the elite, undercover government subgroups. It's been awhile since I read the Enies Lobby arc but I think I remember Oda hyping Lucci like crazy with the flashback of him killing alot of people in the past even when he was a child. That and just the pure badassery aura that he had about him. Lucci probably was more than a match for most fishmen (otherwise, CP9 seems rather weak in retrospect).
It is kind of pointless to get into a power level argument with a manga like this but remember that Hodi was Arlong's subordinate. Luffy defeated Arlong in his earlier days. Much much later, Luffy barely (and I mean BARELY) defeats Lucci even with Gear 2nd and 3rd. Again, I think people may be giving Hodi too much credit. Luffy has been training like crazy for 2 years under Rayleigh (the right hand of Roger). It'd be kind of pointless if he was defeated by Hodi so easily (basically, Hodi probably does not have 40k douriki or anywhere even close that amount).
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This fight is probably going to take a while considering flashbacks of hodi's childhood and the showcasing of everyones new powers. I just wanna see the new world!!!! T_T
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its probably not going to be simple fighting, i think jinbei will explain it. plus hes a "wanted man" so theres probably some more truth to it.
i dont think hodi will be that strong and basing a "normal persons strength" off of lucci is ridiculous he was anything but normal (zoan devils fruit+CP9 training+natural talent).
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Lucci didn't have his Hakki awaken when he fought Luffy, I bet Zoro is ganna just rofl stomp Hodi and everybody in there by himself.
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Yea...SH is gonna roflstomp them.
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The prevailing opinion seems to be that Hodi and co aren't really the bad keys here but just pawns that the real bad guy(s) are using, namely the shadow that was referenced a few chapters ago. There's been some speculation that it's the princes, or it might be some government party that we don't know yet or maybe even something else. Either way I don't really see any of the strawhats struggling to fight against the villains that have been shown to this point, they just seem like losers tbh. The possible exception is the octopus swordsman but hes already been shown to work for the highest bidder so him not being loyal to Hodi isn't out of the question, it may even be likely.
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i want to see the drunken octopus's fight, is 2 hand better or 6 hands??
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On February 24 2011 16:50 proxY_ wrote:
The prevailing opinion seems to be that Hodi and co aren't really the bad keys here but just pawns that the real bad guy(s) are using, namely the shadow that was referenced a few chapters ago. There's been some speculation that it's the princes, or it might be some government party that we don't know yet or maybe even something else. Either way I don't really see any of the strawhats struggling to fight against the villains that have been shown to this point, they just seem like losers tbh. The possible exception is the octopus swordsman but hes already been shown to work for the highest bidder so him not being loyal to Hodi isn't out of the question, it may even be likely.
The shadow? Do you mean the silhouette of the guy wearing a straw hat that was seen during the fortune-telling? Or someone else?
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