EPTAnd as much as I love this manga I'd like to see the end :p
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Lylat
France8575 Posts
And as much as I love this manga I'd like to see the end :p | ||
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grush57
Korea (South)2582 Posts
On April 07 2013 01:42 Lylat wrote: Ok so this Colloseum stuff is becoming interesting, I was afraid Luffy would stomp it ! I hope he doesn't lose to the Blackbeard guy though it would mean that those 2 years were useless if he can't even take out an Emperor captain... And as much as I love this manga I'd like to see the end :p 0% chance any strawhats will die here | ||
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hooahah
3752 Posts
On April 07 2013 01:42 Lylat wrote: Ok so this Colloseum stuff is becoming interesting, I was afraid Luffy would stomp it ! I hope he doesn't lose to the Blackbeard guy though it would mean that those 2 years were useless if he can't even take out an Emperor captain... And as much as I love this manga I'd like to see the end :p you still have a long, LOOOOOOOONG time before OP ends. The timeskip was pretty much the halfway point. besides, as Luffy said, it's not about the ending, it's about the adventure. | ||
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Lylat
France8575 Posts
Wut ? I never implied that  On April 07 2013 01:45 hooahah wrote: you still have a long, LOOOOOOOONG time before OP ends. The timeskip was pretty much the halfway point. besides, as Luffy said, it's not about the ending, it's about the adventure. Ok I'm still happy then since OP is my fav manga, I'm just afraid it will end up being shit like Bleach or Naruto :S | ||
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tozi
United States506 Posts
hmm jesus burgess, division A? I would think the guy with the red sword would be division A | ||
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hooahah
3752 Posts
On April 07 2013 03:01 Lylat wrote: Wut ? I never implied that Ok I'm still happy then since OP is my fav manga, I'm just afraid it will end up being shit like Bleach or Naruto :S + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/VGFjh.jpg) | ||
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RenSC2
United States1087 Posts
On April 07 2013 03:01 Lylat wrote: Wut ? I never implied that Ok I'm still happy then since OP is my fav manga, I'm just afraid it will end up being shit like Bleach or Naruto :S The difference between Bleach, Naruto, or DBZ versus One Piece is that the author has a clear objective in mind and seems to have at least a strong outline of how to get there. That objective is the finding of One Piece which still seems to be way off in the future. There's also a decent amount of foreshadowing that points to a great battle that will happen after One Piece is found. The manga will likely have a coherent and wonderfully written story up to that point. For the mangas that really fell apart, they all were victims of their own fame. Bleach was set up as a series to save Rukia and overthrow/reform a corrupt ruling society in the afterlife. They did, but the series was too popular, so the author tried to continue and it never was as good again... Ichigo had already gone through and gained bankai, the most powerful abilities in the world so then we got the mask and the ultra-powered quincies which never seemed right. DBZ was set up as a series to defeat Frieza, the ruler and most powerful being in the universe. But it became so popular that the series continued on after Frieza's defeat and Frieza became a joke while more powerful beings kept getting thrown in. The author has already blown his wad in making Goku the legendary super saiyan, so he started to rely on sillier things (Fu-sion-ha!) to keep the series moving forward. One Piece doesn't have those problems yet and won't for quite a long time. I just hope that Oda will insist on ending the series when it's supposed to end and not get pressured into extending it. | ||
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GettingIt
1656 Posts
On April 07 2013 01:42 Lylat wrote: Ok so this Colloseum stuff is becoming interesting, I was afraid Luffy would stomp it ! I hope he doesn't lose to the Blackbeard guy though it would mean that those 2 years were useless if he can't even take out an Emperor captain... And as much as I love this manga I'd like to see the end :p I don't see why you think after 2-years of training Luffy would be the strongest pirate in the world except for maybe Blackbeard? | ||
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Warri
Germany3208 Posts
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shark.
593 Posts
On April 07 2013 06:20 RenSC2 wrote: The difference between Bleach, Naruto, or DBZ versus One Piece is that the author has a clear objective in mind and seems to have at least a strong outline of how to get there. That objective is the finding of One Piece which still seems to be way off in the future. There's also a decent amount of foreshadowing that points to a great battle that will happen after One Piece is found. The manga will likely have a coherent and wonderfully written story up to that point. For the mangas that really fell apart, they all were victims of their own fame. Bleach was set up as a series to save Rukia and overthrow/reform a corrupt ruling society in the afterlife. They did, but the series was too popular, so the author tried to continue and it never was as good again... Ichigo had already gone through and gained bankai, the most powerful abilities in the world so then we got the mask and the ultra-powered quincies which never seemed right. DBZ was set up as a series to defeat Frieza, the ruler and most powerful being in the universe. But it became so popular that the series continued on after Frieza's defeat and Frieza became a joke while more powerful beings kept getting thrown in. The author has already blown his wad in making Goku the legendary super saiyan, so he started to rely on sillier things (Fu-sion-ha!) to keep the series moving forward. One Piece doesn't have those problems yet and won't for quite a long time. I just hope that Oda will insist on ending the series when it's supposed to end and not get pressured into extending it. I don't believe One Piece will ever have these problems as Oda has planned the outline and most of the details for the entirety of the story (he has even told his underling people the entire story till the end). Bleach and to a certain extent Naruto have only continued due to demand, One Piece has had the basics of the entire story set from the beggining and has a God tier mangaka at the helm. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18632 Posts
On April 07 2013 06:29 Warri wrote: implying gear second isnt the same as supersayjan. And then black haki fists on top of gear second. And then fire...under fucking water...on top of a black fist because of haki on top of gear second. Its very much the same tbh, just not as obvious. gear second isn't the super legendary god like warrior stuff supersayan was... | ||
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zeropoint
United States94 Posts
On April 07 2013 06:35 sharkie wrote: gear second isn't the super legendary god like warrior stuff supersayan was... Not only that, it was vastly more explained than just suddenly powering up because of rage. Gear second is a really cool technique imo. | ||
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hooahah
3752 Posts
On April 07 2013 06:29 Warri wrote: implying gear second isnt the same as supersayjan. And then black haki fists on top of gear second. And then fire...under fucking water...on top of a black fist because of haki on top of gear second. Its very much the same tbh, just not as obvious. please - Haki has been foreshadowed for hundreds of chapters before Luffy eventually got to use it. As for the firefist under water - this is just Oda's style. Zoro grew 2 heads and 4 arms, Sanji puts his leg on fire on a regular basis, people can fly via kicking the air it's true that they're all power ups - the difference is that SSJ was supposed to be the ultimate powerup. A once in a 1000 years occurance that shakes the very foundations of the universe. An arc later and random robots from Earth can beat SSJs. THAT'S the problem with SSJ/Bankai/whatever, not that it's a power up. | ||
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Lylat
France8575 Posts
On April 07 2013 06:28 GettingIt wrote: I don't see why you think after 2-years of training Luffy would be the strongest pirate in the world except for maybe Blackbeard? I'm not saying that he's the strongest but losing to an Emperor captain would be underwhelming. | ||
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Sableyeah
Netherlands2119 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
It's not just about 'power levels' with One Piece, there are other factors like worldly influence, intelligence, etc. to be taken into account and it's what makes the characters and their fights interesting. We have absolutely no idea how strong Burgess really is and it's impossible to compare him to anyone else even of the same level (ie Marco) because we don't know much about him and his situation. We don't know who he can beat or who will beat him not only because we don't know who he'll be fighting, but because we haven't REALLY even SEEN him fight yet. | ||
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rei
United States3594 Posts
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On April 07 2013 06:28 GettingIt wrote: I don't see why you think after 2-years of training Luffy would be the strongest pirate in the world except for maybe Blackbeard? noones saying that but think about it, how many training arcs were there before the time skip? exactly zero theres unlikely to be another training arc (cause noone does training arcs anymore) Luffy will probably get a power up or two along the way (like how he got gear 2 and 3) but right now hes at least strong enough to fight a yonkou (probably not win but at elast hold his own) The interesting thing about BB which I think people tend to forget is that he 'might' be the strongest in the OP world so far, but we don't know why. He has been shown to be physically weak enough for Whitebeard to be able to beat the shit out of him, for him to be beaten by Magellan, and hell, he looked like he was struggling with even Luffy. It's not just about 'power levels' with One Piece, there are other factors like worldly influence, intelligence, etc. to be taken into account and it's what makes the characters and their fights interesting. We have absolutely no idea how strong Burgess really is and it's impossible to compare him to anyone else even of the same level (ie Marco) because we don't know much about him and his situation. We don't know who he can beat or who will beat him not only because we don't know who he'll be fighting, but because we haven't REALLY even SEEN him fight yet. he beat Ace in a fair one on one and hes gotten a second fruit since then... and its like the most broken fruit ever which seems to ahve the ability to jsut break anything you want and cause earthquakes | ||
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
I think if you have strong Haki,you can own. See Rayleigh and Shanks. But yes BB got 2 broken fruits which is Yami and Gura Gura. Seriously,Luffy just need better Haki and higher mastery of his DF(maybe more Gears?) | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On April 07 2013 13:24 FakeDeath wrote: Frankly speaking, I don't think DF is everything. I think if you have strong Haki,you can own. See Rayleigh and Shanks. But yes BB got 2 broken fruits which is Yami and Gura Gura. Seriously,Luffy just need better Haki and higher mastery of his DF(maybe more Gears?) jsut saying that Blackbeard deserves his yonkou status | ||
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