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Fleshcut
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany592 Posts
April 18 2012 12:34 GMT
#3681
So how did you guys like the new chapter? :D
I think Clown will be the first big enemy who gets beaten by Haki. :>

Sidenote: Love the fanservice this chapter
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
April 18 2012 12:41 GMT
#3682
Cool chapter, but a bit too much exposition for my tastes. Like the design of CC though
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
April 18 2012 12:42 GMT
#3683
I don't really see this guy as a major threat. I mean gas, Luffy should blast him with a single haki enhanced punch.
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Fleshcut
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany592 Posts
April 18 2012 12:48 GMT
#3684
On April 18 2012 21:42 valaki wrote:
I don't really see this guy as a major threat. I mean gas, Luffy should blast him with a single haki enhanced punch.

But we still don't know what abilities come with controling gas. He might be able to to simply make it impossible to breathe or he could make it a seduction gas, so people will follow him... we don't know yet Just one thing is pretty clear: If he was able to be real threat to Vegapunk when it comes to intelligence then he must be a smart fighter! That makes him very dangerous.
Sableyeah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands2119 Posts
April 18 2012 12:50 GMT
#3685
http://www.mangainn.com/manga/chapter/84455_master-ceasar-clown

For those that do not know where to find it.
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ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
April 18 2012 12:56 GMT
#3686
What I want to know is what happens if he tries to fight smoker. Can he control smoker's body? :O
darkness overpowering
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 13:08:40
April 18 2012 13:02 GMT
#3687
Eh two minor things that are bothering me. First why did they the distress call give out the island's name considering the island should be a secret. The henchmen should have known better than to give out the island's name, but yeah desperation excuse. Second why is Smoker giving us fan service? It's cold and Smoker is not Sanji so there is no reason for him to unbutton Tashigi's shirt, but I suppose it is more like his dress personality is like Franky's.

Anyways was an ok chapter given that it was just explaining things. Also when CC was given permission to kill the will-o-wiskerman that means his centuar henchmen right?
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 18 2012 13:34 GMT
#3688
+ Show Spoiler +
Luffy had a problem with Magellan and his poison fruit, so I think he´ll have a problem with this one too, especially as they don´t have #3 with his wax fruit to help out. At least they have Chopper with them to deal with poison.

Smoker might be the key to fighting Master Ceasar, since both of them are logia-users.
:3
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
April 18 2012 13:46 GMT
#3689
Does anyone else feel like some sort of Luffy + Smoker combo is going to happen to defeat Caeser Clown? As it is I'm hankering for more interaction between the two, and Oda has been giving a lot (read: A LOT) of screentime to Smoker. In fact if we get another chapter like this we'll probably have more Smoker than we even had for Alabasta.

I think Luffy defeating CC with haki is right on the money though. Maybe Robin against the Harpy? Feels like Robin and Nami haven't had their awesome battle sequence yet despite some small moments.

Still totally unsure where the samurai is going to factor into the grand scale of things. His purpose on the island to give the SH a face to the atrocity of kidnapping children is obvious, but if that was all a non-DF, non-samurai person would have worked just as well.

I think just as a whole I'm not sure how this arc will work out.
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Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 18 2012 14:01 GMT
#3690
I hope we´ll see a Smoker+Luffy team. The two are enemies even though it´s clear that Smoker don´t agree with everything the Marines do. There´ll be some awesome swordfighting first, of course, but with Smoker as one of the few reasonable marines I think it´s weird how he´s still going after the nicest of all pirates.
:3
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
April 18 2012 14:58 GMT
#3691
On April 18 2012 22:34 Forumite wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Luffy had a problem with Magellan and his poison fruit, so I think he´ll have a problem with this one too, especially as they don´t have #3 with his wax fruit to help out. At least they have Chopper with them to deal with poison.

Smoker might be the key to fighting Master Ceasar, since both of them are logia-users.

course he cant, Smoker is made of smoke not gas

as for Luffy VS Ceaser, Ceasers poison wont be as strong as Magellans and Luffy has super antibodies now after that fight which is why he got poisoned by the octo guy and jsut shrugged it off
killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 20:57:07
April 18 2012 20:54 GMT
#3692
On April 18 2012 22:02 BlackMagister wrote:
Eh two minor things that are bothering me. First why did they the distress call give out the island's name considering the island should be a secret. The henchmen should have known better than to give out the island's name, but yeah desperation excuse. Second why is Smoker giving us fan service? It's cold and Smoker is not Sanji so there is no reason for him to unbutton Tashigi's shirt, but I suppose it is more like his dress personality is like Franky's.

Anyways was an ok chapter given that it was just explaining things. Also when CC was given permission to kill the will-o-wiskerman that means his centuar henchmen right?


Henchmen tend to be pretty stupid.

http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/660/10

Right-Middle frame. Smoker always had his coat wide open, he probably just likes it better that way. It just so happens that now he has breasts. Though it's interesting that he doesn't seem to care about the situation.
Inty
Profile Joined June 2010
United States99 Posts
April 18 2012 21:02 GMT
#3693
I am really liking this arc so far nice mix of action, humor, and mystery. I think CC and his minions will be a great test to really see how far Luffy and his crew have advanced in two years(assuming they get back into their bodies) as this will be their first big bad in the new world.
terranghost
Profile Joined May 2010
United States980 Posts
April 18 2012 21:18 GMT
#3694
I'm most interested in finding out who at G5 is working with CC and who the will-o-wiskerman is.

I doubt its any of the G5 Marines currently around smoker because all of their Den den's were taken by law. Now they could still work for the guy that is currently at the G5 base but I still doubt it. The will-o-wiskerman could refer to the samurai, the centaurs, or it could even refer to a third group that has not had any screen time yet.





On April 18 2012 23:01 Forumite wrote:
I hope we´ll see a Smoker+Luffy team. The two are enemies even though it´s clear that Smoker don´t agree with everything the Marines do. There´ll be some awesome swordfighting first, of course, but with Smoker as one of the few reasonable marines I think it´s weird how he´s still going after the nicest of all pirates.


That always seemed odd to me too maybe Smoker is just stubborn. Or maybe since he is usually just a third party looking at the things the strawhats do it looks like they are more evil than they actually are.
"It is amazing that people who think we cannot afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, and medication somehow think that we can afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, medication and a government bureaucracy to administer it." - Thomas Sowell
Sickkiee
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Japan607 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 23:57:10
April 18 2012 23:55 GMT
#3695
On April 18 2012 23:58 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 22:34 Forumite wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Luffy had a problem with Magellan and his poison fruit, so I think he´ll have a problem with this one too, especially as they don´t have #3 with his wax fruit to help out. At least they have Chopper with them to deal with poison.

Smoker might be the key to fighting Master Ceasar, since both of them are logia-users.

course he cant, Smoker is made of smoke not gas

as for Luffy VS Ceaser, Ceasers poison wont be as strong as Magellans and Luffy has super antibodies now after that fight which is why he got poisoned by the octo guy and jsut shrugged it off


Exactly my thought, if the gas fruit is the same as poison... it won't be as strong as Magdellens since his DF power IS poison.

On April 19 2012 06:18 terranghost wrote:
I'm most interested in finding out who at G5 is working with CC and who the will-o-wiskerman is.

I doubt its any of the G5 Marines currently around smoker because all of their Den den's were taken by law. Now they could still work for the guy that is currently at the G5 base but I still doubt it. The will-o-wiskerman could refer to the samurai, the centaurs, or it could even refer to a third group that has not had any screen time yet.





Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 23:01 Forumite wrote:
I hope we´ll see a Smoker+Luffy team. The two are enemies even though it´s clear that Smoker don´t agree with everything the Marines do. There´ll be some awesome swordfighting first, of course, but with Smoker as one of the few reasonable marines I think it´s weird how he´s still going after the nicest of all pirates.


That always seemed odd to me too maybe Smoker is just stubborn. Or maybe since he is usually just a third party looking at the things the strawhats do it looks like they are more evil than they actually are.


Well if you remember, right at the start when Smoker was introduced, they said that no pirate has ever escaped his grasp when they land on his island and entered his town/jurisdiction. Hence, Luffy was the first to 'escape' or leave and thus Smoker felt obliged to live up to his reputation.
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Azuzu
Profile Joined August 2010
United States340 Posts
April 19 2012 00:05 GMT
#3696
I always thought smoker keeps chasing the strawhats because he can sense their potential to become powerful, kind of like aokoji. Too late now though, they've obviously snowballed far ahead of what smoker is capable of.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
April 19 2012 00:12 GMT
#3697
On April 19 2012 09:05 Azuzu wrote:
I always thought smoker keeps chasing the strawhats because he can sense their potential to become powerful, kind of like aokoji. Too late now though, they've obviously snowballed far ahead of what smoker is capable of.

thats also partly it, Luffy reminded him of roger
terranghost
Profile Joined May 2010
United States980 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-19 01:04:25
April 19 2012 00:48 GMT
#3698
On April 19 2012 08:55 Sickkiee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 06:18 terranghost wrote:
I'm most interested in finding out who at G5 is working with CC and who the will-o-wiskerman is.

I doubt its any of the G5 Marines currently around smoker because all of their Den den's were taken by law. Now they could still work for the guy that is currently at the G5 base but I still doubt it. The will-o-wiskerman could refer to the samurai, the centaurs, or it could even refer to a third group that has not had any screen time yet.





On April 18 2012 23:01 Forumite wrote:
I hope we´ll see a Smoker+Luffy team. The two are enemies even though it´s clear that Smoker don´t agree with everything the Marines do. There´ll be some awesome swordfighting first, of course, but with Smoker as one of the few reasonable marines I think it´s weird how he´s still going after the nicest of all pirates.


That always seemed odd to me too maybe Smoker is just stubborn. Or maybe since he is usually just a third party looking at the things the strawhats do it looks like they are more evil than they actually are.


Well if you remember, right at the start when Smoker was introduced, they said that no pirate has ever escaped his grasp when they land on his island and entered his town/jurisdiction. Hence, Luffy was the first to 'escape' or leave and thus Smoker felt obliged to live up to his reputation.



Yes but enough time has passed now for Smoker to have realized that the strawhats aren't as bad as everyone says they are.

+ Show Spoiler +
If you really think about most of the strawhats were in were against pirates, WG groups that went rouge, or non WG affiliated groups.

-Buggy
-Morgan
-Kuro
-Don Krieg
-Arlong
-Baroque Works and crocodile
-Bellamy
-Enel and the priests
-foxy

+ Show Spoiler +
Times they stood against the world gov
-Iron fist Fullbody
-Drum Kingdom
-CP9
-Sabaody
-Impel Down/ Marineford


With all of these had the Organization not acted first strawhats (or Luffy) would of had no reason to fight back. Smoker seems to be one of the most sensible marines out there. Back at the battle of marine-ford. He and Tashagi seemed to be the only 2 notable marines other than COby that realized the marines were attempting to drag out the battle longer than needed. And on top of that the government even recognized that Kid deserved a higher bounty because he killed civilians while on the other hand Luffy does not.

I think most of what makes Smoker target Luffy is stubbornness and has nothing to do with his potential danger or whatnot.




Also something has dawned on me whatever became of Coby with Garp having less influence in the Marines now and Sakazuki is the fleet admiral and surely has a grudge against Coby for interfering with his absolute justice at marine-ford.
"It is amazing that people who think we cannot afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, and medication somehow think that we can afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, medication and a government bureaucracy to administer it." - Thomas Sowell
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
April 19 2012 02:23 GMT
#3699
On April 19 2012 09:48 terranghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 08:55 Sickkiee wrote:
On April 19 2012 06:18 terranghost wrote:
I'm most interested in finding out who at G5 is working with CC and who the will-o-wiskerman is.

I doubt its any of the G5 Marines currently around smoker because all of their Den den's were taken by law. Now they could still work for the guy that is currently at the G5 base but I still doubt it. The will-o-wiskerman could refer to the samurai, the centaurs, or it could even refer to a third group that has not had any screen time yet.





On April 18 2012 23:01 Forumite wrote:
I hope we´ll see a Smoker+Luffy team. The two are enemies even though it´s clear that Smoker don´t agree with everything the Marines do. There´ll be some awesome swordfighting first, of course, but with Smoker as one of the few reasonable marines I think it´s weird how he´s still going after the nicest of all pirates.


That always seemed odd to me too maybe Smoker is just stubborn. Or maybe since he is usually just a third party looking at the things the strawhats do it looks like they are more evil than they actually are.


Well if you remember, right at the start when Smoker was introduced, they said that no pirate has ever escaped his grasp when they land on his island and entered his town/jurisdiction. Hence, Luffy was the first to 'escape' or leave and thus Smoker felt obliged to live up to his reputation.



Yes but enough time has passed now for Smoker to have realized that the strawhats aren't as bad as everyone says they are.

+ Show Spoiler +
If you really think about most of the strawhats were in were against pirates, WG groups that went rouge, or non WG affiliated groups.

-Buggy
-Morgan
-Kuro
-Don Krieg
-Arlong
-Baroque Works and crocodile
-Bellamy
-Enel and the priests
-foxy

+ Show Spoiler +
Times they stood against the world gov
-Iron fist Fullbody
-Drum Kingdom
-CP9
-Sabaody
-Impel Down/ Marineford


With all of these had the Organization not acted first strawhats (or Luffy) would of had no reason to fight back. Smoker seems to be one of the most sensible marines out there. Back at the battle of marine-ford. He and Tashagi seemed to be the only 2 notable marines other than COby that realized the marines were attempting to drag out the battle longer than needed. And on top of that the government even recognized that Kid deserved a higher bounty because he killed civilians while on the other hand Luffy does not.

I think most of what makes Smoker target Luffy is stubbornness and has nothing to do with his potential danger or whatnot.




Also something has dawned on me whatever became of Coby with Garp having less influence in the Marines now and Sakazuki is the fleet admiral and surely has a grudge against Coby for interfering with his absolute justice at marine-ford.

despite everything Luffy is still a pirate, and smoker is still a marine hes not going to split hairs when it comes to Pirates in his eye Luffy may not be killing civilians but at the same time hes not helping the marines either, tons of pirates team kill but Luffy has taken down Impel down causing the release of a large number of heinous criminals and taken out CP9 drasitcally weakening the marines force

plus hes the son of the world governments biggest enemy

Smoker may not agree with everything the marines do but he still will never agree with a pirate, as far as he concerned as soon as Luffy has one piece hell do jsut as bad as any other pirate
ore0z
Profile Joined December 2009
Romania161 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-19 03:36:45
April 19 2012 02:48 GMT
#3700
Adding to Forkrider Forikorder, Smoker also sees the resemblence of Gol D. Roger in Luffy. He knows Luffy is a dangerous threat because he's aiming for Pirate King and is capable of finding One Piece.

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/one_piece/v12/c099/13.html
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/one_piece/v12/c099/17.html

Edit: Wow, I totally butchered your name. Sorry about that.
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