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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
November 11 2017 08:11 GMT
#28061
On November 11 2017 11:06 sumsaR wrote:
It feels real artificial, yes. And to be honest, that someone hasn't just destroyed Luffy due to that drawback yet is kind of silly.

in dressrossa he had a small army buying him time, and this time he has a hostage

i miss when fights could just both sides just beating the crap out of each other with there fists instead of both sides pulling out such bleach style techniques
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
November 11 2017 16:06 GMT
#28062
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 11 2017 17:48 GMT
#28063
Ugh I hope that means something in the interim rather than dragging this shit out another year.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-11 21:21:22
November 11 2017 21:21 GMT
#28064
At this point Zoro will become shogun of Wano by the time others join him.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-11 21:48:43
November 11 2017 21:46 GMT
#28065
On November 12 2017 01:06 Yhamm wrote:
https://twitter.com/sandman_AP/status/929333019466391554

thank you

so eventually the reverie will take some times

i just hope i'm not gonna die and be alive to witness the final arc :>
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 11 2017 21:54 GMT
#28066
On November 12 2017 06:46 Makro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2017 01:06 Yhamm wrote:
https://twitter.com/sandman_AP/status/929333019466391554

thank you

so eventually the reverie will take some times

i just hope i'm not gonna die and be alive to witness the final arc :>

robo oda wont finish it until 2217
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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
November 12 2017 02:51 GMT
#28067
How will it take another year??

I thought WCI was going to end within, say, 20 chapters?
maru lover forever
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 12 2017 03:05 GMT
#28068
A lot of breaks.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-12 03:09:17
November 12 2017 03:08 GMT
#28069
On November 12 2017 11:51 Incognoto wrote:
How will it take another year??

I thought WCI was going to end within, say, 20 chapters?


Wano might not immediately follow Whole Cake Island. Reverie could come before I guess?
herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2056 Posts
November 12 2017 08:50 GMT
#28070
Fights in One Piece have always been thought out well – Luffy has had to face different hurdles in defeating his opponents. Rare is the case where conflict boils down to an "emotional battle of wills" á la Bleach. Clever tactics in fights are something that as a reader I want to keep seeing more of.

One thing that's becoming harder and harder for me to rationally accept is Luffy beating people with amazing abilities. Point being that the shonen manga MC has to win yet he has to be able to take down people in a convincing fashion.

Doflamingo could turn his surroundings into invincible strings, make string clones and control people like puppets - holy shit! The possibilities are endless on how he could turn any fight into child's play. I'm sure I'm not alone in saying that, in terms of power and ability, Katakuri seems to be on another level than Luffy right now.

For me it doesn't actually matter if the MC is weaker in terms of power/ability (what is power, anyway?). Has there ever been a case of Luffy beating a "stronger" person in combat by outsmarting him somehow? I can't recall.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18625 Posts
November 12 2017 09:48 GMT
#28071
On November 12 2017 17:50 herMan wrote:
Fights in One Piece have always been thought out well – Luffy has had to face different hurdles in defeating his opponents. Rare is the case where conflict boils down to an "emotional battle of wills" á la Bleach. Clever tactics in fights are something that as a reader I want to keep seeing more of.

One thing that's becoming harder and harder for me to rationally accept is Luffy beating people with amazing abilities. Point being that the shonen manga MC has to win yet he has to be able to take down people in a convincing fashion.

Doflamingo could turn his surroundings into invincible strings, make string clones and control people like puppets - holy shit! The possibilities are endless on how he could turn any fight into child's play. I'm sure I'm not alone in saying that, in terms of power and ability, Katakuri seems to be on another level than Luffy right now.

For me it doesn't actually matter if the MC is weaker in terms of power/ability (what is power, anyway?). Has there ever been a case of Luffy beating a "stronger" person in combat by outsmarting him somehow? I can't recall.


Well Luffy beat Crocodile by abusing his weakness, no?
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 12 2017 09:54 GMT
#28072
Now here I thought One Piece would finish before I settle down with a family of 3, but it will take longer to show Zoro than for me to finish my degree...
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
November 12 2017 15:24 GMT
#28073
Luffy will not defeat Katakuri, it seems clear that his goal is to evade him and escape WCI.
maru lover forever
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2551 Posts
November 12 2017 16:22 GMT
#28074
Alright let's do this.

Poll: Will Luffy defeat Katakuri?

Yes, wholeheartedly (4)
 
22%

Yes, but in a minor way (like knocking him down / trapping him) (5)
 
28%

No, he'll run away (4)
 
22%

No, he'll get BTFO but saved by deus ex machina (5)
 
28%

18 total votes

Your vote: Will Luffy defeat Katakuri?

(Vote): Yes, wholeheartedly
(Vote): Yes, but in a minor way (like knocking him down / trapping him)
(Vote): No, he'll run away
(Vote): No, he'll get BTFO but saved by deus ex machina

####
Rehio
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1718 Posts
November 12 2017 16:31 GMT
#28075
On November 12 2017 12:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
A lot of breaks.


I'll never complain about the amount of breaks after learning about Oda's work schedule. The guy has overworked himself to hell and been hospitalized multiple times due to working on One Piece.

I'm okay with him taking breaks.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
November 12 2017 17:39 GMT
#28076
Katakuri is only second to Yonkous. His observer haki is as good at it gets, i'd its the peak level of haki. I think he is strong enough to go toe to toe with any of the admirals as well. it would be really lame if Luffy beats him.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
November 12 2017 18:17 GMT
#28077
Funnily enough I don't think we've ever seen an Admiral go really all-out. Except perhaps for Sakazuki against Whitebeard. However even then, Akainu was still a primary threat, like 20 minutes later.
maru lover forever
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
November 12 2017 21:12 GMT
#28078
On November 13 2017 03:17 Incognoto wrote:
Funnily enough I don't think we've ever seen an Admiral go really all-out. Except perhaps for Sakazuki against Whitebeard. However even then, Akainu was still a primary threat, like 20 minutes later.

We've seen Punk Hazard.
The heart's eternal vow
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
November 12 2017 21:35 GMT
#28079
Luffy is definitely going to beat Katakuri. Its already been "called" for by multiple people in-manga, so it would be kind of a letdown if he doesn't. I'm expecting it to be a knockout, but I guess its possible it could be a minor victory as well.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
CHEONSOYUN
Profile Joined August 2017
568 Posts
November 12 2017 23:35 GMT
#28080
there's no imperative for luffy to beat katakuri; as he explained on zou, not on whole cake island to wage a war, he's here simply to grab sanji and ensure his crew escapes intact.

i doubt there will be another significant fight between the two in this escape sequence, luffy lucked out brûlée and he knows it.
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