• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 02:16
CEST 08:16
KST 15:16
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon100Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?179Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) SC4ALL II: StarCraft 2 Player Announcement 8/8 The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser Yamato Cup Series StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon
Tourneys
2026 GSTL Announcement Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice
Brood War
General
Bot on ladder Working 1v1, 2v2, 3v3 Ladder an AI researcher's take on the ladder bot Syncronization issues and can't find games BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro16 Group D [BSL23] SM: Ret vs TerrOr -> DragOn vs StRyKeR [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro16 Group C
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation Diablo IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Post Your Watch!
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10239 users

[Manga] One Piece - Page 1404

Forum Index > Media & Entertainment
Post a Reply
Prev 1 1402 1403 1404 1405 1406 1664 Next
This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

If an episode or a chapter has already been officially released, then it is not necessary to post using spoilers.

If you have knowledge on a chapter that has not been officially released yet, do NOT post it in this thread. Ignoring this public note will result in a mod action.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
November 11 2017 08:11 GMT
#28061
On November 11 2017 11:06 sumsaR wrote:
It feels real artificial, yes. And to be honest, that someone hasn't just destroyed Luffy due to that drawback yet is kind of silly.

in dressrossa he had a small army buying him time, and this time he has a hostage

i miss when fights could just both sides just beating the crap out of each other with there fists instead of both sides pulling out such bleach style techniques
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
November 11 2017 16:06 GMT
#28062
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 11 2017 17:48 GMT
#28063
Ugh I hope that means something in the interim rather than dragging this shit out another year.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-11 21:21:22
November 11 2017 21:21 GMT
#28064
At this point Zoro will become shogun of Wano by the time others join him.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-11 21:48:43
November 11 2017 21:46 GMT
#28065
On November 12 2017 01:06 Yhamm wrote:
https://twitter.com/sandman_AP/status/929333019466391554

thank you

so eventually the reverie will take some times

i just hope i'm not gonna die and be alive to witness the final arc :>
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
November 11 2017 21:54 GMT
#28066
On November 12 2017 06:46 Makro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2017 01:06 Yhamm wrote:
https://twitter.com/sandman_AP/status/929333019466391554

thank you

so eventually the reverie will take some times

i just hope i'm not gonna die and be alive to witness the final arc :>

robo oda wont finish it until 2217
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
November 12 2017 02:51 GMT
#28067
How will it take another year??

I thought WCI was going to end within, say, 20 chapters?
maru lover forever
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 12 2017 03:05 GMT
#28068
A lot of breaks.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-12 03:09:17
November 12 2017 03:08 GMT
#28069
On November 12 2017 11:51 Incognoto wrote:
How will it take another year??

I thought WCI was going to end within, say, 20 chapters?


Wano might not immediately follow Whole Cake Island. Reverie could come before I guess?
herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2057 Posts
November 12 2017 08:50 GMT
#28070
Fights in One Piece have always been thought out well – Luffy has had to face different hurdles in defeating his opponents. Rare is the case where conflict boils down to an "emotional battle of wills" á la Bleach. Clever tactics in fights are something that as a reader I want to keep seeing more of.

One thing that's becoming harder and harder for me to rationally accept is Luffy beating people with amazing abilities. Point being that the shonen manga MC has to win yet he has to be able to take down people in a convincing fashion.

Doflamingo could turn his surroundings into invincible strings, make string clones and control people like puppets - holy shit! The possibilities are endless on how he could turn any fight into child's play. I'm sure I'm not alone in saying that, in terms of power and ability, Katakuri seems to be on another level than Luffy right now.

For me it doesn't actually matter if the MC is weaker in terms of power/ability (what is power, anyway?). Has there ever been a case of Luffy beating a "stronger" person in combat by outsmarting him somehow? I can't recall.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18747 Posts
November 12 2017 09:48 GMT
#28071
On November 12 2017 17:50 herMan wrote:
Fights in One Piece have always been thought out well – Luffy has had to face different hurdles in defeating his opponents. Rare is the case where conflict boils down to an "emotional battle of wills" á la Bleach. Clever tactics in fights are something that as a reader I want to keep seeing more of.

One thing that's becoming harder and harder for me to rationally accept is Luffy beating people with amazing abilities. Point being that the shonen manga MC has to win yet he has to be able to take down people in a convincing fashion.

Doflamingo could turn his surroundings into invincible strings, make string clones and control people like puppets - holy shit! The possibilities are endless on how he could turn any fight into child's play. I'm sure I'm not alone in saying that, in terms of power and ability, Katakuri seems to be on another level than Luffy right now.

For me it doesn't actually matter if the MC is weaker in terms of power/ability (what is power, anyway?). Has there ever been a case of Luffy beating a "stronger" person in combat by outsmarting him somehow? I can't recall.


Well Luffy beat Crocodile by abusing his weakness, no?
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 12 2017 09:54 GMT
#28072
Now here I thought One Piece would finish before I settle down with a family of 3, but it will take longer to show Zoro than for me to finish my degree...
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
November 12 2017 15:24 GMT
#28073
Luffy will not defeat Katakuri, it seems clear that his goal is to evade him and escape WCI.
maru lover forever
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2554 Posts
November 12 2017 16:22 GMT
#28074
Alright let's do this.

Poll: Will Luffy defeat Katakuri?

Yes, wholeheartedly (4)
 
22%

Yes, but in a minor way (like knocking him down / trapping him) (5)
 
28%

No, he'll run away (4)
 
22%

No, he'll get BTFO but saved by deus ex machina (5)
 
28%

18 total votes

Your vote: Will Luffy defeat Katakuri?

(Vote): Yes, wholeheartedly
(Vote): Yes, but in a minor way (like knocking him down / trapping him)
(Vote): No, he'll run away
(Vote): No, he'll get BTFO but saved by deus ex machina

####
Rehio
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1718 Posts
November 12 2017 16:31 GMT
#28075
On November 12 2017 12:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
A lot of breaks.


I'll never complain about the amount of breaks after learning about Oda's work schedule. The guy has overworked himself to hell and been hospitalized multiple times due to working on One Piece.

I'm okay with him taking breaks.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
November 12 2017 17:39 GMT
#28076
Katakuri is only second to Yonkous. His observer haki is as good at it gets, i'd its the peak level of haki. I think he is strong enough to go toe to toe with any of the admirals as well. it would be really lame if Luffy beats him.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
November 12 2017 18:17 GMT
#28077
Funnily enough I don't think we've ever seen an Admiral go really all-out. Except perhaps for Sakazuki against Whitebeard. However even then, Akainu was still a primary threat, like 20 minutes later.
maru lover forever
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
November 12 2017 21:12 GMT
#28078
On November 13 2017 03:17 Incognoto wrote:
Funnily enough I don't think we've ever seen an Admiral go really all-out. Except perhaps for Sakazuki against Whitebeard. However even then, Akainu was still a primary threat, like 20 minutes later.

We've seen Punk Hazard.
The heart's eternal vow
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
November 12 2017 21:35 GMT
#28079
Luffy is definitely going to beat Katakuri. Its already been "called" for by multiple people in-manga, so it would be kind of a letdown if he doesn't. I'm expecting it to be a knockout, but I guess its possible it could be a minor victory as well.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
CHEONSOYUN
Profile Joined August 2017
618 Posts
November 12 2017 23:35 GMT
#28080
there's no imperative for luffy to beat katakuri; as he explained on zou, not on whole cake island to wage a war, he's here simply to grab sanji and ensure his crew escapes intact.

i doubt there will be another significant fight between the two in this escape sequence, luffy lucked out brûlée and he knows it.
JAEDONG...!!! EFFORT IS ANGRY. ZERG...?!
Prev 1 1402 1403 1404 1405 1406 1664 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
2026 GSTL: Playoffs Round 1
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Horang2 1052
Hyuk 745
Leta 432
Barracks 294
PianO 116
910 103
ajuk12(nOOB) 12
Noble 2
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm227
PGG 156
League of Legends
JimRising 611
Heroes of the Storm
Trikslyr55
Other Games
summit1g13158
WinterStarcraft640
C9.Mang0344
XaKoH 193
Livibee152
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream475
Other Games
gamesdonequick226
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH189
• Letter148
• Adnapsc2 1
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2295
League of Legends
• Lourlo1057
• Stunt396
Upcoming Events
GSL
4h 44m
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
8h 44m
Spirit vs Mixu
BSL
12h 44m
Ret vs TerrOr
DragOn vs StRyKeR
Replay Cast
17h 44m
Afreeca Starleague
1d 3h
Shine vs Rush
WardiTV Weekly
1d 4h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 9h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Light vs EffOrt
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

K-JUNGMAN
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Calamity Invitational
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.