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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
July 06 2017 02:25 GMT
#27301
Luffy wouldnt have trained as hard if ace hadnt died
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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
July 06 2017 02:37 GMT
#27302
Or would he have trained with Ace and become EVEN STRONGER?!
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
July 06 2017 02:42 GMT
#27303
Nah Ace and Luffy would go their separate ways afterwards
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
RenSC2
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1098 Posts
July 06 2017 02:49 GMT
#27304
Ace was a rival to become the pirate king. He had to be eliminated somehow.

Just like how Big Mom must be defeated because she too wants to be the pirate king. It doesn't have to happen this arc, but Luffy and co need to defeat her or in some other way change her mind on wanting that title.
Playing better than standard requires deviation. This divergence usually results in sub-standard play.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
July 06 2017 03:09 GMT
#27305
On July 06 2017 11:37 Zambrah wrote:
Or would he have trained with Ace and become EVEN STRONGER?!

I mean I guess Oda could have come up with some other way to teach Luffy to not be so reckless before entering the New World but I don't think his character would have been patient enough
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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
July 06 2017 03:28 GMT
#27306
I mean can we really classify Luffy as patient right now anyways?

Though to not be a random shit disturber, I'm glad Ace died cause it really elevated Marineford to Masterpiece Status in my books.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18749 Posts
July 06 2017 04:19 GMT
#27307
On July 06 2017 12:09 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2017 11:37 Zambrah wrote:
Or would he have trained with Ace and become EVEN STRONGER?!

I mean I guess Oda could have come up with some other way to teach Luffy to not be so reckless before entering the New World but I don't think his character would have been patient enough


Luffy hasn't changed his character one bit since Ace's death.
MaZza[KIS]
Profile Joined December 2005
Australia2110 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-06 06:41:04
July 06 2017 06:34 GMT
#27308
On July 06 2017 11:49 RenSC2 wrote:
Ace was a rival to become the pirate king. He had to be eliminated somehow.

Just like how Big Mom must be defeated because she too wants to be the pirate king. It doesn't have to happen this arc, but Luffy and co need to defeat her or in some other way change her mind on wanting that title.


Ahm, how many people who've said they wanted to be the pirate king and then fought with luffy has luffy "eliminated". If by eliminated you mean "fought them and left them feeling respect for him and/or converted them to his side" then yes, he has "eliminated" people. I doubt that luffy will EVER actually kill someone. I don't think he believes in killing. He wants freedom, not power.

EDIT: I think Oda killed Ace because he couldn't find a way to make him useful in the long-term. Ace is never going to be subordinate to ANYONE. Equally, Luffy and Ace would never fight eachother. This stalemate would leave the title of "Pirate King" in limbo when the two eventually do start challenging and/or defeating and/or becoming Yonkou.
I really wanted a bigger opponent, like Nate Marquardt, or King Neptune, or Zeus, or Zeus and Fedor, or Fedor on Zeus's shoulders, and they can both punch but only Zeus can kick.
RenSC2
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1098 Posts
July 06 2017 07:04 GMT
#27309
On July 06 2017 15:34 MaZza[KIS] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2017 11:49 RenSC2 wrote:
Ace was a rival to become the pirate king. He had to be eliminated somehow.

Just like how Big Mom must be defeated because she too wants to be the pirate king. It doesn't have to happen this arc, but Luffy and co need to defeat her or in some other way change her mind on wanting that title.


Ahm, how many people who've said they wanted to be the pirate king and then fought with luffy has luffy "eliminated". If by eliminated you mean "fought them and left them feeling respect for him and/or converted them to his side" then yes, he has "eliminated" people. I doubt that luffy will EVER actually kill someone. I don't think he believes in killing. He wants freedom, not power.

EDIT: I think Oda killed Ace because he couldn't find a way to make him useful in the long-term. Ace is never going to be subordinate to ANYONE. Equally, Luffy and Ace would never fight eachother. This stalemate would leave the title of "Pirate King" in limbo when the two eventually do start challenging and/or defeating and/or becoming Yonkou.

Yes, exactly on the edit.

Luffy doesn't need to actually kill. He just needs his opponents to give up on becoming the Pirate King. If they respect Luffy as their superior, then that is good enough.
Playing better than standard requires deviation. This divergence usually results in sub-standard play.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 06 2017 08:45 GMT
#27310
Shonen Jump on a break this week?
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
July 06 2017 08:48 GMT
#27311
On July 06 2017 17:45 Ej_ wrote:
Shonen Jump on a break this week?

Don't think so, already saw spoilers for this week's chapter.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
July 06 2017 09:08 GMT
#27312
Shouldn't the new ch. be up online already?
The heart's eternal vow
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
July 06 2017 11:24 GMT
#27313
So there's no break, but there are sourcing problems so the scans are severely delayed and everything will be a lot later than usual.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-06 12:52:02
July 06 2017 12:51 GMT
#27314
what a fucking chapter.

i couldnt have been more wrong jesus.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 06 2017 13:30 GMT
#27315
ahahahahahah
I knew it that cake was too well drawn to not get wrecked by the huge explosion xD
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
July 06 2017 13:52 GMT
#27316
Man, Luffy really needs to figure out how to fix Gear 4's issues lol
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
July 06 2017 14:10 GMT
#27317
I had very big expectations about Ichiji but he got rekt by Katakuri in matters of sec

im back on my Katakuri hype train. He has to be one of the strongest in New World.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
July 06 2017 14:32 GMT
#27318
Luffy needs to fix that but don't forget he was super weak from before!

Great chapter.. they need way more heavy hitters to face big mum and her crew in her own turf
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AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
July 06 2017 14:36 GMT
#27319
I'm mainly wonder how Luffy will be able to legitimately take over Bigmom.
Even for Doflamingo it was very very (very) close.
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2554 Posts
July 06 2017 14:54 GMT
#27320
Keep in mind that even before the time skip Luffy went from struggling against people like Arlong and Kreig to beating Shichibukais. He's still got room to improve. Besides, now that he's seen Big Mom's powers, the gears are grinding in his head to determine her weakness.
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