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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

If an episode or a chapter has already been officially released, then it is not necessary to post using spoilers.

If you have knowledge on a chapter that has not been officially released yet, do NOT post it in this thread. Ignoring this public note will result in a mod action.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
April 29 2017 06:28 GMT
#27121
lets not forget taht Luffy watched a village march to its death until Nami asked for his help


Luffy is totally Chaotic Neutral, hes a pirate so obv not lawful or good, if he wants to hell do whatever it takes to help people if he decides he wants to help, if he decides he wants to beat someone hell do it no matter who they are but if he doesnt want to he doesnt care

its the same here, taking out big mom is simply something he wants to do, crashing the wedding sounds fun so hes doing it
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6644 Posts
April 29 2017 19:08 GMT
#27122
I'd say chaotic good, he does insane things all the time which have negative effects on others but everytime he has done something like that it has been for the good of someone else as well. Like Impel down perfect example imo of chaotic good, he stormed in for a good cause to save someone from execution but in the chaos of it all he let loose a bunch of dangerous criminals. He never planned to release all of those people it just kind of happened on the way.

I think when evaluating a characters alignment on a spectrum like this intent is more important than results. Luffy never intended to release all the prisoners, he only wanted Ace that is good. He however went about his plan in an extremely chaotic way that caused the release of the prisoners.

The same can be said for a lot of his 'evil' actions, most were meant to be for good but it always ends in chaos and unforeseen seemingly evil results end up happening.
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
April 29 2017 19:53 GMT
#27123
He usually fluctuates between chaotic good and neutral, but that's to be expected, since the alignment system is stupid, and no actually developed character will act according to his "alignment" all the time, since people don't actually work that way.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
April 29 2017 20:44 GMT
#27124
Sorry guys, but talking about good and evil in terms of DnD terms is just terrible. You might as well talk about whether Luffy is a Jedi or a Sith.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 29 2017 21:27 GMT
#27125
On April 30 2017 05:44 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Sorry guys, but talking about good and evil in terms of DnD terms is just terrible. You might as well talk about whether Luffy is a Jedi or a Sith.

too much emotion to be a jedi. confirmed sith lord
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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7306 Posts
April 29 2017 21:47 GMT
#27126
So I guess Akainu would be a Jedi Master?
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
April 29 2017 23:13 GMT
#27127
Is Enel lawful evil or neutral evil?
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-29 23:20:15
April 29 2017 23:19 GMT
#27128
On April 30 2017 04:08 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
I'd say chaotic good, he does insane things all the time which have negative effects on others but everytime he has done something like that it has been for the good of someone else as well. Like Impel down perfect example imo of chaotic good, he stormed in for a good cause to save someone from execution but in the chaos of it all he let loose a bunch of dangerous criminals. He never planned to release all of those people it just kind of happened on the way.

I think when evaluating a characters alignment on a spectrum like this intent is more important than results. Luffy never intended to release all the prisoners, he only wanted Ace that is good. He however went about his plan in an extremely chaotic way that caused the release of the prisoners.

The same can be said for a lot of his 'evil' actions, most were meant to be for good but it always ends in chaos and unforeseen seemingly evil results end up happening.

rescuing a criminal from the consequences of his actions by attacking the people upholding the law and protecting citizens doesnt exactly strike me as "good"

Sorry guys, but talking about good and evil in terms of DnD terms is just terrible. You might as well talk about whether Luffy is a Jedi or a Sith.


only if you treat the alignment system as black and white
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 29 2017 23:26 GMT
#27129
On April 30 2017 06:47 Zambrah wrote:
So I guess Akainu would be a Jedi Master?

hes Mace Windu
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
April 30 2017 01:34 GMT
#27130
On April 30 2017 08:26 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2017 06:47 Zambrah wrote:
So I guess Akainu would be a Jedi Master?

hes Mace Windu


The more extreme and asshole version yes :D
Never Knows Best.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
April 30 2017 15:02 GMT
#27131
On April 30 2017 08:26 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2017 06:47 Zambrah wrote:
So I guess Akainu would be a Jedi Master?

hes Mace Windu

nah hes vader, vader never hesitated to kill his allies afterall

although akainu never had anyone lead him down that path
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-30 18:34:20
April 30 2017 18:33 GMT
#27132
On May 01 2017 00:02 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2017 08:26 Shellshock wrote:
On April 30 2017 06:47 Zambrah wrote:
So I guess Akainu would be a Jedi Master?

hes Mace Windu

nah hes vader, vader never hesitated to kill his allies afterall

although akainu never had anyone lead him down that path

We don't know that, his prequels haven't come out yet in full
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
May 02 2017 09:00 GMT
#27133
the usual early chapter with Golden Week : http://readms.net/r/one_piece/864/4224/1
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 02 2017 10:19 GMT
#27134
shit is about to go down!!!
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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
May 02 2017 11:10 GMT
#27135
Oooooo yissssss. I'm wondering how the pairings for the 1v1 battles will turn out to be.
The heart's eternal vow
Merany
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France890 Posts
May 02 2017 11:22 GMT
#27136
What a chapter!
A bit confusing at times with so many things going on but still, excellent!
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
May 02 2017 11:50 GMT
#27137
I'm not sure what Daifuku can do with his bean-paste-genie (?) but I assume he'll be up against Sanji. Wondering who'll fight Dogtooth in the end. Bege was quite funny, when he mentioned
+ Show Spoiler +
that they should continue as Dogtooth is pale :D
The heart's eternal vow
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7582 Posts
May 02 2017 12:05 GMT
#27138
So no chapter in 2 days right?
Stuck.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18413 Posts
May 02 2017 12:39 GMT
#27139
oh god am I super hyped or what!!
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2538 Posts
May 02 2017 12:53 GMT
#27140
Sanji really just can't stop losing. He's a walking meme at this point.

Also, Big Mom is disabled because the picture is her phylactery. Her fake body doesn't work if it's broken. If Luffy puts it back together she'll reawaken. My little theory anyways.
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