EPTIf for example Capone is with Kaidou, like Forikorder says, I can imagine the more likely target would be the wedding (prevent BM power increase) or the poneglyph, which seems to be an important asset.
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Yorbon
Netherlands4272 Posts
If for example Capone is with Kaidou, like Forikorder says, I can imagine the more likely target would be the wedding (prevent BM power increase) or the poneglyph, which seems to be an important asset. | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On February 18 2017 01:54 Forikorder wrote: Big Mom Vinsmokes Capon 3 factions im saying theres not going to be another faction unrelated to those 3 doing dastardly deeds In that case, did you quote the wrong post originally, since I didn't say anything about an additional faction? | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On February 18 2017 03:08 Hyperbola wrote: Honestly, this felt like forced drama. I didn't feel anything reading that scene. Probably because of the pacing and how there was not enough build-up. Robin had the entirety of Water 7 and half of Enis Lobby for her Oscar moment, Sanji kind of had a little of Zou and Whole Cake up until now. Also, I think there was a sense of mystery as to why exactly Robin left and whether she actually wanted to go back or not so when it was revealed bit-by-bit over time it set up the tension for her scene. With Sanji, we were able to see exactly what was going on his end of the story so this moment with Luffy in the rain was just confirming what we already know. Also, the other plots at play here really overshadow Sanji's internal conflict. I am quite positive that most people care more about the Raftel and Yonku plot-line way more than Sanji's character development. So I guess because we have fast pacing and a strong main plot, this scene doesn't feel nearly as important as it should. At least for me anyway. Also, I don't think there will be a Big Mom fight in this arc. I think Oda is saving that for the next arc when the crew will team up against Kaido - which will be the Oz fight from Thriller Park 2.0. Tl;dr #SanjiSucks2016-2017 | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
In that case, did you quote the wrong post originally, since I didn't say anything about an additional faction? The natural conclusion to draw would be Capone, but who knows. | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8946 Posts
its actually hilarious how theres one of these every week hahahahah | ||
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Elentos
55594 Posts
On February 18 2017 05:13 Sentenal wrote: In that case, did you quote the wrong post originally, since I didn't say anything about an additional faction? It's about the "but who knows" part I reckon. He's saying it's Capone for sure because adding anyone else is overkill at this point. So in essence you agree. | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
On February 18 2017 03:08 Hyperbola wrote: Honestly, this felt like forced drama. I didn't feel anything reading that scene. Probably because of the pacing and how there was not enough build-up. Robin had the entirety of Water 7 and half of Enis Lobby for her Oscar moment, Sanji kind of had a little of Zou and Whole Cake up until now. Also, I think there was a sense of mystery as to why exactly Robin left and whether she actually wanted to go back or not so when it was revealed bit-by-bit over time it set up the tension for her scene. With Sanji, we were able to see exactly what was going on his end of the story so this moment with Luffy in the rain was just confirming what we already know. Also, the other plots at play here really overshadow Sanji's internal conflict. I am quite positive that most people care more about the Raftel and Yonku plot-line way more than Sanji's character development. So I guess because we have fast pacing and a strong main plot, this scene doesn't feel nearly as important as it should. At least for me anyway. Also, I don't think there will be a Big Mom fight in this arc. I think Oda is saving that for the next arc when the crew will team up against Kaido - which will be the Oz fight from Thriller Park 2.0. i kinda agree with what you say, you didn't have an entire top tier build up until the famous moment of that last chapter with sanji screaming i want to go back, therefore it feels like it was rushed | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On February 19 2017 08:18 Dangermousecatdog wrote: Sanji's moment was weak and kind of forced. It had no real emotion or meaning behind it. It's also diluted by that we know that he will not leave the crew so there is no "moment" and that it has been diluted by all the previous exact same scenes.. kinda feels like oda has forgotten how to make good emotional scenes and everything just been forced and misses the mark | ||
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Rehio
United States1718 Posts
The scene felt just fine, to me, and I really enjoyed it. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20255 Posts
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8946 Posts
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On February 20 2017 09:30 evilfatsh1t wrote: yeah i dont see how you can fault oda for sanji's scene having less "impact". we knew from the beginning why sanji was doing what he was doing and we all knew he wasnt actually going to leave in the end. you cant expect oda to magically recreate scenes like robin's when the audience already knows whats to come. then why write it exactly like robins...? | ||
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Slaughter
United States20255 Posts
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On February 20 2017 09:55 Slaughter wrote: It's only vaguely like Robin's in that they share the theme of leaving to protect the crew. both willingly go with shady organisation due to threats made by forementioned organization, crew raids island base of said organization only to find the rescuee resistant and trying to use mean words to get the crew to leave safely only for a heart to heart talk finally break down there resistance and they tearfully yell out how they want to go home sanji damsel in distress confirmed | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On February 20 2017 10:53 Sentenal wrote: Apparently Forikorder doesn't know the difference between things being vaguely similar, and being exactly the same. apparently you dont know theres things in between vague and exact? the situation is very similar | ||
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Slaughter
United States20255 Posts
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On February 20 2017 11:41 Slaughter wrote: It also has quite a bit of differences. depends how much were gonna nitpick the details, the only differences is the poneglyph and sanjis family make the situation more complicated, plus the so far unknown conspiracy | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8946 Posts
look at the situations from a wider perspective. the main plot point for robins arc was cementing her status as a crew member. other things such as declaration of war on the world government, replacing merry with sunny and acquiring franky were side plots (though not any less significant). in sanjis arc, rescuing sanji isnt what oda wants to progress in the grand scheme of things, its the strawhats' relationship with other yonkous and more vaguely the ongoing similarities between luffy and roger. sanji is just a plot device for the bigger story | ||
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