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Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
February 17 2017 18:22 GMT
#26801
I'm confused by the three shadows bobbin saw. Two possibilities are capone or people from big mom. Capone seems to be likely, but his crew typically is in his body. Doesn't necessarily mean anything, but it still feels weird. Motive is lacking as well. For both bigmom and capone, there isn't a clear/direct reason to target Bobbin directly.
If for example Capone is with Kaidou, like Forikorder says, I can imagine the more likely target would be the wedding (prevent BM power increase) or the poneglyph, which seems to be an important asset.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
February 17 2017 20:13 GMT
#26802
On February 18 2017 01:54 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2017 01:46 Sentenal wrote:
On February 17 2017 15:18 Forikorder wrote:
On February 17 2017 12:07 Sentenal wrote:
I'd be surprised if Capone didn't have something to do with it. The writing just works out that way. You had Jinbe talking about what happened to Pekoms, and then scene switch to Bobbins having been mysteriously shot. The natural conclusion to draw would be Capone, but who knows.


i really doubt theyd bring a 4th faction into whole cake island and the vinsmokes are all acounted for

????

I'm confused, are you saying Capone isn't up to something that will go down in this arc?


Big Mom Vinsmokes Capon 3 factions im saying theres not going to be another faction unrelated to those 3 doing dastardly deeds

In that case, did you quote the wrong post originally, since I didn't say anything about an additional faction?
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 17 2017 21:36 GMT
#26803
On February 18 2017 03:08 Hyperbola wrote:
Honestly, this felt like forced drama. I didn't feel anything reading that scene. Probably because of the pacing and how there was not enough build-up. Robin had the entirety of Water 7 and half of Enis Lobby for her Oscar moment, Sanji kind of had a little of Zou and Whole Cake up until now. Also, I think there was a sense of mystery as to why exactly Robin left and whether she actually wanted to go back or not so when it was revealed bit-by-bit over time it set up the tension for her scene. With Sanji, we were able to see exactly what was going on his end of the story so this moment with Luffy in the rain was just confirming what we already know. Also, the other plots at play here really overshadow Sanji's internal conflict. I am quite positive that most people care more about the Raftel and Yonku plot-line way more than Sanji's character development.

So I guess because we have fast pacing and a strong main plot, this scene doesn't feel nearly as important as it should. At least for me anyway.

Also, I don't think there will be a Big Mom fight in this arc. I think Oda is saving that for the next arc when the crew will team up against Kaido - which will be the Oz fight from Thriller Park 2.0.

Tl;dr
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
February 18 2017 07:19 GMT
#26804
In that case, did you quote the wrong post originally, since I didn't say anything about an additional faction?


The natural conclusion to draw would be Capone, but who knows.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8926 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-18 07:55:20
February 18 2017 07:54 GMT
#26805
wat....................is this another famous forik moment?
its actually hilarious how theres one of these every week hahahahah
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-18 10:21:14
February 18 2017 10:20 GMT
#26806
On February 18 2017 05:13 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2017 01:54 Forikorder wrote:
On February 18 2017 01:46 Sentenal wrote:
On February 17 2017 15:18 Forikorder wrote:
On February 17 2017 12:07 Sentenal wrote:
I'd be surprised if Capone didn't have something to do with it. The writing just works out that way. You had Jinbe talking about what happened to Pekoms, and then scene switch to Bobbins having been mysteriously shot. The natural conclusion to draw would be Capone, but who knows.


i really doubt theyd bring a 4th faction into whole cake island and the vinsmokes are all acounted for

????

I'm confused, are you saying Capone isn't up to something that will go down in this arc?


Big Mom Vinsmokes Capon 3 factions im saying theres not going to be another faction unrelated to those 3 doing dastardly deeds

In that case, did you quote the wrong post originally, since I didn't say anything about an additional faction?

It's about the "but who knows" part I reckon. He's saying it's Capone for sure because adding anyone else is overkill at this point.

So in essence you agree.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
February 18 2017 11:13 GMT
#26807
On February 18 2017 03:08 Hyperbola wrote:
Honestly, this felt like forced drama. I didn't feel anything reading that scene. Probably because of the pacing and how there was not enough build-up. Robin had the entirety of Water 7 and half of Enis Lobby for her Oscar moment, Sanji kind of had a little of Zou and Whole Cake up until now. Also, I think there was a sense of mystery as to why exactly Robin left and whether she actually wanted to go back or not so when it was revealed bit-by-bit over time it set up the tension for her scene. With Sanji, we were able to see exactly what was going on his end of the story so this moment with Luffy in the rain was just confirming what we already know. Also, the other plots at play here really overshadow Sanji's internal conflict. I am quite positive that most people care more about the Raftel and Yonku plot-line way more than Sanji's character development.

So I guess because we have fast pacing and a strong main plot, this scene doesn't feel nearly as important as it should. At least for me anyway.

Also, I don't think there will be a Big Mom fight in this arc. I think Oda is saving that for the next arc when the crew will team up against Kaido - which will be the Oz fight from Thriller Park 2.0.

i kinda agree with what you say, you didn't have an entire top tier build up until the famous moment of that last chapter with sanji screaming i want to go back, therefore it feels like it was rushed
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
February 18 2017 23:18 GMT
#26808
Sanji's moment was weak and kind of forced. It had no real emotion or meaning behind it. It's also diluted by that we know that he will not leave the crew so there is no "moment" and that it has been diluted by all the previous exact same scenes..
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
February 19 2017 00:22 GMT
#26809
On February 19 2017 08:18 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Sanji's moment was weak and kind of forced. It had no real emotion or meaning behind it. It's also diluted by that we know that he will not leave the crew so there is no "moment" and that it has been diluted by all the previous exact same scenes..


kinda feels like oda has forgotten how to make good emotional scenes and everything just been forced and misses the mark
Rehio
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1718 Posts
February 19 2017 15:51 GMT
#26810
In your opinions, sure.

The scene felt just fine, to me, and I really enjoyed it.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-19 18:19:42
February 19 2017 18:02 GMT
#26811
Edit: Wrong thread.
Never Knows Best.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8926 Posts
February 20 2017 00:30 GMT
#26812
yeah i dont see how you can fault oda for sanji's scene having less "impact". we knew from the beginning why sanji was doing what he was doing and we all knew he wasnt actually going to leave in the end. you cant expect oda to magically recreate scenes like robin's when the audience already knows whats to come.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
February 20 2017 00:32 GMT
#26813
On February 20 2017 09:30 evilfatsh1t wrote:
yeah i dont see how you can fault oda for sanji's scene having less "impact". we knew from the beginning why sanji was doing what he was doing and we all knew he wasnt actually going to leave in the end. you cant expect oda to magically recreate scenes like robin's when the audience already knows whats to come.

then why write it exactly like robins...?
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
February 20 2017 00:55 GMT
#26814
It's only vaguely like Robin's in that they share the theme of leaving to protect the crew.
Never Knows Best.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
February 20 2017 01:52 GMT
#26815
On February 20 2017 09:55 Slaughter wrote:
It's only vaguely like Robin's in that they share the theme of leaving to protect the crew.


both willingly go with shady organisation due to threats made by forementioned organization, crew raids island base of said organization only to find the rescuee resistant and trying to use mean words to get the crew to leave safely only for a heart to heart talk finally break down there resistance and they tearfully yell out how they want to go home

sanji damsel in distress confirmed
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-20 01:54:03
February 20 2017 01:53 GMT
#26816
Apparently Forikorder doesn't know the difference between things being vaguely similar, and being exactly the same.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
February 20 2017 02:31 GMT
#26817
On February 20 2017 10:53 Sentenal wrote:
Apparently Forikorder doesn't know the difference between things being vaguely similar, and being exactly the same.

apparently you dont know theres things in between vague and exact?

the situation is very similar
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
February 20 2017 02:41 GMT
#26818
It also has quite a bit of differences.
Never Knows Best.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
February 20 2017 02:45 GMT
#26819
On February 20 2017 11:41 Slaughter wrote:
It also has quite a bit of differences.


depends how much were gonna nitpick the details, the only differences is the poneglyph and sanjis family make the situation more complicated, plus the so far unknown conspiracy
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8926 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-20 03:15:56
February 20 2017 03:15 GMT
#26820
the points you mentioned are literally the only similar aspects, everything else is different. if we were to compile a list of things that make sanjis arc different to robins there would be more differences than similarities.
look at the situations from a wider perspective. the main plot point for robins arc was cementing her status as a crew member. other things such as declaration of war on the world government, replacing merry with sunny and acquiring franky were side plots (though not any less significant).
in sanjis arc, rescuing sanji isnt what oda wants to progress in the grand scheme of things, its the strawhats' relationship with other yonkous and more vaguely the ongoing similarities between luffy and roger. sanji is just a plot device for the bigger story
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