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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

If an episode or a chapter has already been officially released, then it is not necessary to post using spoilers.

If you have knowledge on a chapter that has not been officially released yet, do NOT post it in this thread. Ignoring this public note will result in a mod action.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
March 18 2016 22:00 GMT
#24621
But Oda also didn't say that it wasn't...
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
March 18 2016 22:00 GMT
#24622
On March 19 2016 07:00 Sentenal wrote:
But Oda also didn't say that it wasn't...

prob cause hes said basically nothing about it at all
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
March 18 2016 22:05 GMT
#24623
I dunno why you are scared of your own belifes, Forikorder. You think the "voice of all things" and the "breath of all things" are related, you think the former is Observation Haki, and you thought the latter was also haki, so it must all be haki, right?
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
March 18 2016 23:34 GMT
#24624
On March 19 2016 07:05 Sentenal wrote:
I dunno why you are scared of your own belifes, Forikorder. You think the "voice of all things" and the "breath of all things" are related, you think the former is Observation Haki, and you thought the latter was also haki, so it must all be haki, right?


do you just not understand the concept of hypothetical situations at all?

its POSSIBLE there related its POSSIBLE there haki
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
March 19 2016 15:36 GMT
#24625
On March 19 2016 06:46 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2016 06:32 Sentenal wrote:
On March 19 2016 06:21 Forikorder wrote:
On March 19 2016 06:08 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 19 2016 05:01 Incognoto wrote:
On March 19 2016 03:21 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 19 2016 01:51 Incognoto wrote:
On March 17 2016 18:16 Elentos wrote:
On March 17 2016 17:41 Zexion wrote:
What a chapter...again! I'd say the breaks every now and then are totally worth it.

But when did Luffy hear voices? I doubt we have seen any kind of explanation of why yet, but I don't even remember him or Roger hearing voices at all (man, this manga has been going on forever). Can someone enlighten me?

He heard the Seakings on Fishman Island, which surprised them. And Roger was, according to Rayleigh, able to hear the "voice of all things" which allowed him to understand poneglyphs even though he couldn't read them.


zoro is also able to cut steel by hearing the breath of all things, btw


The description of what he did in Alabasta was pretty different from what Rayleigh described and Luffy is showing. I doubt it's related at all.


one is breath and the other voice

they're different but probably related


The way I saw it Zoro's technique was more akin to swordsman instinct and sensitivity or fighting spirit much like his Asura technique. If it was related it feels like that would have been hinted at or suggested sometime in the last 500 chapters.

i dont think so, so far the "voice of all things" has been only hinted at vaguely, once the technique starts having actual light shed on it might zoro mention something about the "breath of all things"

Maybe its haki, right Forik? After all, Oda hasn't said it isn't!


ya cause NOONE has EVER used voices to describe observation haki before

How would observation haki relate to physically being able to attack something. As far as we've seen observation haki is literally only for observation hence the name.
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sertas
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden890 Posts
March 19 2016 16:14 GMT
#24626
am i the only that disslike the use of haki in the series atm? Its just badly implemented. Evreone is now a haki user or your useless. And evreone has to be painted black all the time which just looks ugly. Having that little indication from before looked better.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
March 19 2016 17:14 GMT
#24627
On March 20 2016 00:36 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2016 06:46 Forikorder wrote:
On March 19 2016 06:32 Sentenal wrote:
On March 19 2016 06:21 Forikorder wrote:
On March 19 2016 06:08 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 19 2016 05:01 Incognoto wrote:
On March 19 2016 03:21 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 19 2016 01:51 Incognoto wrote:
On March 17 2016 18:16 Elentos wrote:
On March 17 2016 17:41 Zexion wrote:
What a chapter...again! I'd say the breaks every now and then are totally worth it.

But when did Luffy hear voices? I doubt we have seen any kind of explanation of why yet, but I don't even remember him or Roger hearing voices at all (man, this manga has been going on forever). Can someone enlighten me?

He heard the Seakings on Fishman Island, which surprised them. And Roger was, according to Rayleigh, able to hear the "voice of all things" which allowed him to understand poneglyphs even though he couldn't read them.


zoro is also able to cut steel by hearing the breath of all things, btw


The description of what he did in Alabasta was pretty different from what Rayleigh described and Luffy is showing. I doubt it's related at all.


one is breath and the other voice

they're different but probably related


The way I saw it Zoro's technique was more akin to swordsman instinct and sensitivity or fighting spirit much like his Asura technique. If it was related it feels like that would have been hinted at or suggested sometime in the last 500 chapters.

i dont think so, so far the "voice of all things" has been only hinted at vaguely, once the technique starts having actual light shed on it might zoro mention something about the "breath of all things"

Maybe its haki, right Forik? After all, Oda hasn't said it isn't!


ya cause NOONE has EVER used voices to describe observation haki before

How would observation haki relate to physically being able to attack something. As far as we've seen observation haki is literally only for observation hence the name.

are you replying to the right person?
Rehio
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1718 Posts
March 19 2016 19:27 GMT
#24628
On March 20 2016 01:14 sertas wrote:
am i the only that disslike the use of haki in the series atm? Its just badly implemented. Evreone is now a haki user or your useless. And evreone has to be painted black all the time which just looks ugly. Having that little indication from before looked better.


Everyone being a Haki user at this point is kind of a requirement of the setting. We're in the New World, and everyone has to deal with Logia's intangibility. While specialized weapons to handle them exist, it makes sense that the number of Haki users we're exposed to goes up because this is where the badass Logia go.


As for the art that represents Haki? Eh, opinions. I don't mind it much.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 19 2016 20:04 GMT
#24629
Doffy is finally gonna lose in the anime tonight right?
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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
March 26 2016 15:12 GMT
#24630
If voice of all things were observation haki it wouldn't be such a big deal

voice of all things and breath of all things are unrelated to haki

for SURE

also i haven't watched the anime in a few months now. i want to watch doffy's fall in one go instead of suffering every week
maru lover forever
killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
March 26 2016 15:44 GMT
#24631
On March 20 2016 01:14 sertas wrote:
am i the only that disslike the use of haki in the series atm? Its just badly implemented. Evreone is now a haki user or your useless. And evreone has to be painted black all the time which just looks ugly. Having that little indication from before looked better.


The only people shown to have haki are always the top tier people, which makes sense, since haki is the manifestation of willpower.

Might as well say you dislike how everyone we meet is always stronger than the last person.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
March 26 2016 15:47 GMT
#24632
like jinbei?
maru lover forever
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
March 26 2016 15:47 GMT
#24633
On March 27 2016 00:12 Incognoto wrote:
If voice of all things were observation haki it wouldn't be such a big deal

voice of all things and breath of all things are unrelated to haki

for SURE

also i haven't watched the anime in a few months now. i want to watch doffy's fall in one go instead of suffering every week

weve seen the hapou navy use special haki abilities that normally cant be used, is it so wierd to think observation has other levels too?
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
March 26 2016 16:34 GMT
#24634
that's just shockwaves, not necessarily related to haki

just like luffy somehow infused rubber with haki somehow. rubber has nothing to do with haki, afaik
maru lover forever
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2551 Posts
March 26 2016 23:54 GMT
#24635
On March 27 2016 01:34 Incognoto wrote:
that's just shockwaves, not necessarily related to haki

just like luffy somehow infused rubber with haki somehow. rubber has nothing to do with haki, afaik

No you see everything is haki. Shockwaves are Haki. Devil fruits are haki. People are just solid Haki walking around. The entire OP world is literally solid willpower.
How do I know? Let's just say my dad works for Oda.
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KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
March 27 2016 01:04 GMT
#24636
On March 27 2016 08:54 Hyperbola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2016 01:34 Incognoto wrote:
that's just shockwaves, not necessarily related to haki

just like luffy somehow infused rubber with haki somehow. rubber has nothing to do with haki, afaik

No you see everything is haki. Shockwaves are Haki. Devil fruits are haki. People are just solid Haki walking around. The entire OP world is literally solid willpower.
How do I know? Let's just say my dad works for Oda.

Unfortunately, some people in this thread know better than Oda and have proven him wrong before. You'll need better evidence than that.
"Because I know this promise that won’t disappear will turn even a cause of tears into strength. You taught me that if I can believe, there is nothing that cannot come true." - Nana Mizuki (Yakusoku) 17:36 ils kaze got me into nana 17:36 ils by his blog
Elerris
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia137 Posts
March 27 2016 01:29 GMT
#24637
Btw everyone there is no chapter this week either. New chapter comes out April 7th.

Source:
http://www.designntrend.com/articles/72500/20160322/one-piece-chapter-821-on-break-until-shonen-jump-issue-18-find-out-release-date.htm
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
March 27 2016 05:09 GMT
#24638
On March 27 2016 01:34 Incognoto wrote:
that's just shockwaves, not necessarily related to haki

just like luffy somehow infused rubber with haki somehow. rubber has nothing to do with haki, afaik

who said anything about shockwaves? its odd that when talking about Haki thats the first place your mind goes

im talking about there special super concentrated break everything attack that the dude managed to learn and caused Chinjao to hand over leadership on account of
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
March 27 2016 05:29 GMT
#24639
Because Armament Haki doesn't do anything like that
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
March 27 2016 05:36 GMT
#24640
On March 27 2016 14:29 Sentenal wrote:
Because Armament Haki doesn't do anything like that


http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/771/15

so this is in no way armament haki?
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