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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-03 18:46:33
March 03 2016 18:43 GMT
#24481
Actually having three will only pinpoint the location if it's a perfect cross with 90° angles.

Really easy homework for you guys. Draw a line between two points. Draw a third point somewhere not on that line. You'll see why missing the 4th point won't let you find the location you're looking for.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
March 03 2016 18:44 GMT
#24482
On March 04 2016 03:43 Olli wrote:
Actually having three will only pinpoint the location if it's a perfect cross with 90° angles.


If it's a cross, wouldn't the point be somewhere on the edges of the triangle?
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KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
March 03 2016 18:47 GMT
#24483
You probably also have to consider the possibility of it being a 3-dimensional map. We know there are examples of islands underwater and in the sky. It would be a leap in logic to assume it's simply on the sea in a 2-dimensional plane.
"Because I know this promise that won’t disappear will turn even a cause of tears into strength. You taught me that if I can believe, there is nothing that cannot come true." - Nana Mizuki (Yakusoku) 17:36 ils kaze got me into nana 17:36 ils by his blog
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2554 Posts
March 03 2016 18:47 GMT
#24484
WOAH JESUS ODA CALM IT DOWN WITH THE REVEALS

that said... You only need three points to triangulate a location... And only two if you wanna narrow it down to two locations... But I guess pirates aren't known for their math skills.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-03 18:53:55
March 03 2016 18:50 GMT
#24485
On March 04 2016 03:42 Inflicted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 03:41 Elentos wrote:
On March 04 2016 03:33 Inflicted wrote:
If you have all 3 poneglyphs, the last poneglyph being missing doesn't matter..

Depends on how far away the 4 points are. Could be miles upon miles of ground to cover. And the translation makes it seem like you have to know the actual contents of the poneglyphs to uncover Raftel.


Easier than looking for the last poneglyph though

Well, you could spend years developing diving sickness like Montblanc Cricket, or you could spend years looking for the poneglyph. And even then it's unknown if you can actually get to Raftel without knowledge from the poneglyphs.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
March 03 2016 18:55 GMT
#24486
On March 04 2016 03:47 Hyperbola wrote:
WOAH JESUS ODA CALM IT DOWN WITH THE REVEALS

that said... You only need three points to triangulate a location... And only two if you wanna narrow it down to two locations... But I guess pirates aren't known for their math skills.

what? Sure, they could've chosen to code it into 3 locations but that makes it simpler for their enemies to find it. In fact, good thing they encoded it into 4 because 3 are already known.
"Because I know this promise that won’t disappear will turn even a cause of tears into strength. You taught me that if I can believe, there is nothing that cannot come true." - Nana Mizuki (Yakusoku) 17:36 ils kaze got me into nana 17:36 ils by his blog
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-03 18:58:16
March 03 2016 18:57 GMT
#24487
On March 04 2016 03:44 Inflicted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 03:43 Olli wrote:
Actually having three will only pinpoint the location if it's a perfect cross with 90° angles.


If it's a cross, wouldn't the point be somewhere on the edges of the triangle?


No. You can narrow it down to three locations though depending on which pair of points you assume are across from each other (or 3 lines I guess if the edges of the cross aren't equally long).

Or if it's a 3D map you need all four corners of the tetrahedron.

Though since this is the Grand Line, I'm not sure how easy it is to navigate to a specific point with no logpost or vivre card to lead you...
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-03 19:07:24
March 03 2016 19:02 GMT
#24488
On March 04 2016 03:57 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
or 3 lines I guess if the edges of the cross aren't equally long

This is the problem without the 4th poneglyph. You don't know the shape of the cross, so theoretically the final point - and therefore the intersection - has a huge range, even if you guessed correctly which ones are supposed to be connected to each other.

I'm sure it's been attempted at some point and we'll find out it didn't work because Raftel is a cursed land that switches dimensions or something.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2554 Posts
March 03 2016 19:15 GMT
#24489
Guys we already know One Piece is inside reverse mountain. Let's stop arguing.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-03 19:20:47
March 03 2016 19:19 GMT
#24490
On March 04 2016 04:15 Hyperbola wrote:
Guys we already know One Piece is inside reverse mountain. Let's stop arguing.

It's under Mariejois in a colossal dick move by the World Government. Raftel was the 21st nation they invited to join, and after a brutal war, they built a fucking symbol of decadence on top of its ruins.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
March 03 2016 19:32 GMT
#24491
On March 04 2016 04:19 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 04:15 Hyperbola wrote:
Guys we already know One Piece is inside reverse mountain. Let's stop arguing.

It's under Mariejois in a colossal dick move by the World Government. Raftel was the 21st nation they invited to join, and after a brutal war, they built a fucking symbol of decadence on top of its ruins.

Isn't Mariejois on the opposite side of the planet from Raftel?
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2554 Posts
March 03 2016 19:32 GMT
#24492
On March 04 2016 04:19 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 04:15 Hyperbola wrote:
Guys we already know One Piece is inside reverse mountain. Let's stop arguing.

It's under Mariejois in a colossal dick move by the World Government. Raftel was the 21st nation they invited to join, and after a brutal war, they built a fucking symbol of decadence on top of its ruins.

Well how did Roger get there then? Did he raise the city? I think everyone would know about that and figure hmmm I wonder if Roger finding raftel is connected to him blowing up the government...
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-03 19:40:18
March 03 2016 19:34 GMT
#24493
On March 04 2016 04:32 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 04:19 Elentos wrote:
On March 04 2016 04:15 Hyperbola wrote:
Guys we already know One Piece is inside reverse mountain. Let's stop arguing.

It's under Mariejois in a colossal dick move by the World Government. Raftel was the 21st nation they invited to join, and after a brutal war, they built a fucking symbol of decadence on top of its ruins.

Isn't Mariejois on the opposite side of the planet from Raftel?

Psst, don't ruin my fan fiction.

Mariejois is pretty close to Marineford so yeah, pretty far away from where Raftel should be.

New theory, Raftel is in the All Blue and may or may not have appeared in one of the lies Usopp told Kaya.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
March 03 2016 19:44 GMT
#24494
I get the feeling that Raftel is not at the end of the Grand Line.
maru lover forever
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
March 03 2016 20:52 GMT
#24495
Raftel = Sniper Island. It's in your heart
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-03 21:10:35
March 03 2016 21:04 GMT
#24496
On March 04 2016 05:52 Shellshock wrote:
Raftel = Sniper Island. It's in your heart

It explodes out of Usopp's chest and has the shape of Sogeking's mask.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
March 03 2016 22:24 GMT
#24497
http://readms.com/r/one_piece/818/3273/14

does momo speak like kenshin from ruruoni kenshin? "that it was"
maru lover forever
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-03 22:35:03
March 03 2016 22:32 GMT
#24498
On March 04 2016 07:24 Incognoto wrote:
http://readms.com/r/one_piece/818/3273/14

does momo speak like kenshin from ruruoni kenshin? "that it was"


My understanding is that momo speaks in a very old fashioned way i.e the way samurai speak in historical dramas. Kenshin's speech is old fashioned, but is also very self-abasing (he says 'de gozaru' all the time for example). And momo certainly doesn't speak in such a servile way. So there are similarities but also differences.

I don't speak Japanese so I may wrong though.
Warfie
Profile Joined February 2009
Norway2849 Posts
March 03 2016 22:54 GMT
#24499
I'm pretty sure MS had a comment on a recent chapter that exactly the above is the case
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2554 Posts
March 04 2016 01:15 GMT
#24500
What do you guys think of the Oden soup theory? Would Oda go that far?

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