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Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2551 Posts
November 21 2015 23:36 GMT
#23861
I got a theory for the size discrepancy actually: I think it has something to do with the person's proximity to the grand line or raftel. If you look closely, the proportions of the characters change the deeper we get into the "heart" of the one piece world. But that's just my interpretation. It could be that Oda simply decided to draw bigger and bigger people over time for whatever reason. Maybe to constantly outdo himself? IDK.
The only thing that peeves me is how some characters are "destined" for certain roles because of the way they were born. Like in order to be a Maine admiral all you need to be is lanky, 7 feet tall, and have the face of an actor, experience be damned. Fujitora proved this when he was literally recruited into the position, with no prior experience, beating out a dozen vice admirals who have been with the navy for decades.
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royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
November 22 2015 00:07 GMT
#23862
His Sanji reveal is the biggest cock tease. Its been 3 weeks. Please just tell me what happened already.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
November 22 2015 00:19 GMT
#23863
On November 22 2015 06:27 Sentenal wrote:
Its so that when the main characters are standing next to them, and they are twice as tall as them, they look that much more intimidating.


Thats part of it,

You're supposed to identify the most with the main characters, so they're more regular people sized, and the big One Piece people are made large to be all the more imposing, I mean would Kuma have been as intimidating if he wasn't so damn big?

Or Blackbeard, would he be half as scary if he was a short hairy fat man (likely to be played by Danny DeVito I'd imagine.)

I mean One Piece's style also lend's itself to completely outlandish proportion, but it helps to have your Big Bags actually be Big, unless theres another purpose to have them be small. I mean look at the Yonkou, Big Mom and Kaidou are fuckin' gargantuan 'cause they're some of the biggest of the big bads!
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-22 03:17:02
November 22 2015 02:59 GMT
#23864
new episode was epic. zoro is a different kind of beast.

zoro's fights always been my favorite. i still watch zoro vs ryuuma time to time, best fight in op up to date for me.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 22 2015 04:18 GMT
#23865
On November 22 2015 11:59 Mensol wrote:
new episode was epic. zoro is a different kind of beast.

zoro's fights always been my favorite. i still watch zoro vs ryuuma time to time, best fight in op up to date for me.

This week's episode simply further cements how much Sanji sucks.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-22 04:41:37
November 22 2015 04:36 GMT
#23866
We are going to get an arc for Sanji and he will probably kick ass in it, but yeah he has sucked post time skip. We haven't seen Sanji use armament haki at all, it's only been implied and talked about in side material. If Sanji wants to be a relevant fighter he needs to be able to do crazy power moves along with his new mobility from sky walk.

Good episode, but a poorly paced one given they couldn't make any interesting filler with it. When they can expand on fight scenes or add funny dialogue it's great, but usually one chapter for one episode is simply not enough.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 22 2015 04:41 GMT
#23867
On November 22 2015 13:36 BlackMagister wrote:
We are going to get an arc for Sanji and he will probably kick ass in it, but yeah he has sucked post time skip. We haven't seen Sanji use armament haki at all, it's only been implied and talked about in side material. If Sanji wants to be a relevant fighter he needs to be able to do crazy power moves along with his new mobility from sky walk.

Good episode, but a poorly paced one given they couldn't make any interesting filler with it. When they can expand on fight scenes or add funny dialogue it's great, but usually one chapter for one episode is simply not enough.

It's ok, we've only got a month or so to wait now.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-22 04:44:32
November 22 2015 04:42 GMT
#23868
On November 22 2015 09:07 royalroadweed wrote:
His Sanji reveal is the biggest cock tease. Its been 3 weeks. Please just tell me what happened already.


We waited 2 years. We can wait a few more weeks.

Maybe he went after Jack?
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
November 22 2015 04:58 GMT
#23869
On November 22 2015 09:07 royalroadweed wrote:
His Sanji reveal is the biggest cock tease. Its been 3 weeks. Please just tell me what happened already.

he went to find bathroom, ended up using one on enemys ship as it cast off, hilarity ensued
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44254 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-22 06:24:55
November 22 2015 05:35 GMT
#23870
I think Sanji used armament haki vs vergo and doflamingo iirc(?) not sure but for sure he has one as law and others have confirmed before.

Though I imagine like luffy and zoro who regularly coats their attacks with haki against tough opposition(even those who aren't doflamingo or admiral level they still usually do it ) then Sanji will probably do the same as well.

While Sanji is part of the monster trio of SH i think he's not as strong as Luffy/Zoro like there's somewhat of a gap.

On November 22 2015 13:58 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2015 09:07 royalroadweed wrote:
His Sanji reveal is the biggest cock tease. Its been 3 weeks. Please just tell me what happened already.

he went to find bathroom, ended up using one on enemys ship as it cast off, hilarity ensued

Or he found some lady and decides to follow her instead ending up in one of the enemy ships cause the girl is from that ship !

funny that sanji is worshipped by minks and mermaids .. they have something in common

On November 22 2015 11:59 Mensol wrote:
new episode was epic. zoro is a different kind of beast.

zoro's fights always been my favorite. i still watch zoro vs ryuuma time to time, best fight in op up to date for me.

just watched it pretty sick

i love the peoples reaction to zoro splitting a size of a fucking mountain lol
this is a quote
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
November 22 2015 12:03 GMT
#23871
On November 22 2015 13:36 BlackMagister wrote:
We are going to get an arc for Sanji and he will probably kick ass in it, but yeah he has sucked post time skip. We haven't seen Sanji use armament haki at all, it's only been implied and talked about in side material. If Sanji wants to be a relevant fighter he needs to be able to do crazy power moves along with his new mobility from sky walk.

Good episode, but a poorly paced one given they couldn't make any interesting filler with it. When they can expand on fight scenes or add funny dialogue it's great, but usually one chapter for one episode is simply not enough.


well wrecking big mom's flagship is a good start
maru lover forever
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2551 Posts
November 22 2015 16:03 GMT
#23872
I hope sanji breaks both his legs and has to spend the rest of the series in a wheelchair.
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BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-22 16:34:04
November 22 2015 16:31 GMT
#23873
On November 22 2015 14:35 goody153 wrote:
I think Sanji used armament haki vs vergo and doflamingo iirc(?) not sure but for sure he has one as law and others have confirmed before.

Though I imagine like luffy and zoro who regularly coats their attacks with haki against tough opposition(even those who aren't doflamingo or admiral level they still usually do it ) then Sanji will probably do the same as well.

No these scenes did not show Sanji using armament haki, it's only been said he can use it never shown that he can. If Sanji was using haki vs Vergo it's' poor haki as he allowed his weapon, his leg, to get injured against Vergo who wasn't even using full body haki. Against Donflamingo Sanji just used his flame leg moves and lost to DD's puppet strings, but got cut up by a basic string swipe even before that. These were both good times to use haki, yet he didn't so even if Sanji can use armament haki, wth was he doing in these fights?

Sanji vs Big Mom's ship was a team effort against the ship not against any of Big Mom's fighters directly and they only damaged the ship using the opportunity to run away.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5712 Posts
November 23 2015 00:56 GMT
#23874
Newest episode of One Piece anime btw has the final showdown of Pica vs Zoro. Entire episode is dedicated to their final clash. Get a real nice look of his new move and him Haki'ing all 3 swords at once and a tiny flash back of him fighting Mihawk.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
November 23 2015 02:27 GMT
#23875
On November 23 2015 01:31 BlackMagister wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2015 14:35 goody153 wrote:
I think Sanji used armament haki vs vergo and doflamingo iirc(?) not sure but for sure he has one as law and others have confirmed before.

Though I imagine like luffy and zoro who regularly coats their attacks with haki against tough opposition(even those who aren't doflamingo or admiral level they still usually do it ) then Sanji will probably do the same as well.

No these scenes did not show Sanji using armament haki, it's only been said he can use it never shown that he can. If Sanji was using haki vs Vergo it's' poor haki as he allowed his weapon, his leg, to get injured against Vergo who wasn't even using full body haki. Against Donflamingo Sanji just used his flame leg moves and lost to DD's puppet strings, but got cut up by a basic string swipe even before that. These were both good times to use haki, yet he didn't so even if Sanji can use armament haki, wth was he doing in these fights?

Sanji vs Big Mom's ship was a team effort against the ship not against any of Big Mom's fighters directly and they only damaged the ship using the opportunity to run away.

Pretty big assumption there that Sanji didn't use Haki in either of those encounters. Since to start with, we know he can use it. Its been stated by Luffy in-manga that he can, and Oda out-of-manga that he can. Secondly, the normal visual queues for Haki use just don't apply to Sanji. To start with, Sanji's pants are black, so in the case with Vergo, his leg is indeed black. Is it from Haki, or just the color of his pants? No way to tell. It would only make senes that he was, since why else would he not? Or in the case of Doflamingo, it was while using Diable Jambe, where his leg is super-heated and on fire, again preventing us from seeing the normal visual queues if he was using Haki or not.

Short version is that while we don't know if he was using Haki in those two circumstances, we know that he can, and we know that it wouldn't make sense for him to not.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-23 03:57:43
November 23 2015 03:55 GMT
#23876
True the nickname Black Leg Sanji was because he wears black not because of haki. But assuming he did use haki in those fights that just shifts the question to why is his haki weak? Either he didn't use haki for some reason or he used/has weak haki.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-23 04:16:37
November 23 2015 04:16 GMT
#23877
I don't know if being weaker than Vergo or Doflamingo means you are weak. Although I still maintain that there is no way Oda would have had Sanji lose to Vergo, if they would have stayed and fought each other, given hes a Shounen Hero, and Vergo wasn't the big-bad.

Another explanation is that Sanji's focus is not on armament Haki. IIRC there was an SBS a while back where Oda was asked what each of the monsterous trio specialized in. Luffy specialized in Conquerors, Zoro in Armament, and Sanji in Observation. Which would mean that perhaps Sanji's Armament Haki might be weak, but his Observation is extremely strong. And considering that in both the situation with Doflamingo and Vergo he was able to get there at the last second to make a save against them both, his Observation Haki is doing work.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-23 04:46:18
November 23 2015 04:46 GMT
#23878
I don't know if being weaker than Vergo or Doflamingo means you are weak.


seriously Luffy needed to go all out and have an army of mooks in order to beat him
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-23 06:32:33
November 23 2015 06:01 GMT
#23879
Being weaker than Vergo and DD doesn't make you weak in itself, but Sanji got injured against both of them when they weren't yet using their full strength. Oda could have shown Sanji's potential by making him use his speed and superior mobility to dodge DD, but he didn't. If Sanji's strength is observation haki he should be like the skypia warriors shouting "mantra" and predicting attacks all the time, but Sanji got hit by a basic swipe from DD then got webbed. Sanji has not shown any hint he can fight in the New World leagues yet. It's side material, implied stuff and hope. We need to actually see something in this arc.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
November 23 2015 10:17 GMT
#23880
On November 23 2015 15:01 BlackMagister wrote:
Being weaker than Vergo and DD doesn't make you weak in itself, but Sanji got injured against both of them when they weren't yet using their full strength. Oda could have shown Sanji's potential by making him use his speed and superior mobility to dodge DD, but he didn't. If Sanji's strength is observation haki he should be like the skypia warriors shouting "mantra" and predicting attacks all the time, but Sanji got hit by a basic swipe from DD then got webbed. Sanji has not shown any hint he can fight in the New World leagues yet. It's side material, implied stuff and hope. We need to actually see something in this arc.

neither was sanji, and he only got a "scratch" from vergo it wasnt a serious injury
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