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NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
December 19 2014 02:21 GMT
#10021
On December 19 2014 09:33 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 07:57 Paperplane wrote:
I don't get how understanding everything means you instantly nullify everything. I understand how a gun works, that doesn't mean I'm immune to bullets : (
It would be much cooler if he would always think of some way to counter the enemy instead of passive immunity to his abilities.


I'm pretty sure that's the implication of his powers. As in he sees far enough into the future that he can plan a counter to anything the opponent does.

And because everyone is so meta, that person never uses the move that would get countered in the first place. I guess?

I really want to like Bleach still, there's a reason I've been following it up until now, but it's getting so hard to find anything redeemable in the writing these days. Even the art is petering out, 75% of chapters now are blank space or a close up. It's sad.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5712 Posts
December 19 2014 07:29 GMT
#10022
Sad one of the best characters in the series died alrdy. RIP monk guy, don't even remember his name...
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2280 Posts
December 19 2014 09:54 GMT
#10023
On December 19 2014 09:33 chipmonklord17 wrote:
I'm pretty sure that's the implication of his powers. As in he sees far enough into the future that he can plan a counter to anything the opponent does.

But that would be way more interesting if he indeed countered the abilities instead of saying he can and that's it, the monk is dead.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 19 2014 10:21 GMT
#10024
That also requires him to be very smart and quick-thinking on his feet has even if he instantly sees everything once he opens his "eyes", he still has to devise the counter with all the info he receives, and do it before he kicks the bucket. The power in itself has a big potential and would make someone invulnerable on paper, even to surprise attacks, but it'd still require qualities from the user (kinda how Luffy's power in One Piece owes a bunch to the creativity he exhibited with it before receiving a bunch of power-ups).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
17Sphynx17
Profile Joined September 2011
580 Posts
December 19 2014 11:21 GMT
#10025
I am curious since I am basing it off a translation but would seeing everything in the future (like abilities going to be used) mean that Ywach figures out how it is used/activated/manipulated?

I am just speculating because it might be the difficulty in translating the intention but bare with me for a moment.

Since he is "THE ALMIGHTY" would that imply his powers sort of have omnipotence basically with a parallel that can be drawn to some of the infinity gems (when combined with the gaunlet in the comics) powers?

So he sees any and all possible futures of the fight and any and all techniques his opponents use. He also is able to learn how to master/use their own abilities against them or just not bother with it as the attack is insignificant in any form of damage it can cause him.

Because the translation I read over mangareader sort of mentions he also managed to "master darkness" like the monk dude hence why him drinking the darkness fluid ended up causing his own explosion from the inside as Ywach basically blew it up from inside him. That's what I think.

That's the only way I can try and make a bit of sense out of it, but also makes a bit more question arise as to how his is able to use shinigami powers/master them without their swords/bankai/shikai like his own underlings who needed to "Steal" it from shinigamis. But that's another ball I don't want to think of right now. hehe!
coverpunch
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2093 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-19 13:26:57
December 19 2014 13:20 GMT
#10026
On December 19 2014 08:45 SkelA wrote:
Dont hate on Kubo guys , hate on the japanese ppl that still buy his manga.

Kubo is obviously a genius because he knows his manga will sell the same number of copies even if he pours his soul and creativity(if he has any) or just do his own black/white backgrounds into throwing random shit like he has done for years.

I'm under the impression that Kubo has wanted to quit for a long time too but the editor has basically enslaved him to milk that cash cow dry. So yeah, blame the Japanese fans who won't stop buying Bleach stuff but it is the manga editor that is your exploitative capitalist master IMO.

Edit: it is funny to imagine if Kubo is the big baddie here and the editor is begging him weekly to stop drawing but they have to print it because he's still selling. Like the editor tells him "you just wiped your ass with this paper, we can't publish that as a frame" and Kubo imperiously slaps him and forces him to put it in the scanner. And the editor breaks out in a cold sweat when he gets the sales numbers and it turns out Japanese fans love this shit.
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
December 19 2014 13:45 GMT
#10027
I mean okay the story might be shitty but i love the art so much.
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3394 Posts
December 19 2014 22:34 GMT
#10028
Yea I wish I could draw half as good as Kubo. As for the current story I think my dog could come up with something better.
K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
December 20 2014 10:46 GMT
#10029
On December 19 2014 22:20 coverpunch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 08:45 SkelA wrote:
Dont hate on Kubo guys , hate on the japanese ppl that still buy his manga.

Kubo is obviously a genius because he knows his manga will sell the same number of copies even if he pours his soul and creativity(if he has any) or just do his own black/white backgrounds into throwing random shit like he has done for years.

I'm under the impression that Kubo has wanted to quit for a long time too but the editor has basically enslaved him to milk that cash cow dry. So yeah, blame the Japanese fans who won't stop buying Bleach stuff but it is the manga editor that is your exploitative capitalist master IMO.

Edit: it is funny to imagine if Kubo is the big baddie here and the editor is begging him weekly to stop drawing but they have to print it because he's still selling. Like the editor tells him "you just wiped your ass with this paper, we can't publish that as a frame" and Kubo imperiously slaps him and forces him to put it in the scanner. And the editor breaks out in a cold sweat when he gets the sales numbers and it turns out Japanese fans love this shit.


Wow, I've never actually thought about that. What if he's making the plot, abilities, characters, etc. so obviously terrible so that he can quit?
Fi0na
Profile Joined February 2014
0 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-20 12:55:48
December 20 2014 12:55 GMT
#10030
On December 20 2014 19:46 K3Nyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 22:20 coverpunch wrote:
On December 19 2014 08:45 SkelA wrote:
Dont hate on Kubo guys , hate on the japanese ppl that still buy his manga.

Kubo is obviously a genius because he knows his manga will sell the same number of copies even if he pours his soul and creativity(if he has any) or just do his own black/white backgrounds into throwing random shit like he has done for years.

I'm under the impression that Kubo has wanted to quit for a long time too but the editor has basically enslaved him to milk that cash cow dry. So yeah, blame the Japanese fans who won't stop buying Bleach stuff but it is the manga editor that is your exploitative capitalist master IMO.

Edit: it is funny to imagine if Kubo is the big baddie here and the editor is begging him weekly to stop drawing but they have to print it because he's still selling. Like the editor tells him "you just wiped your ass with this paper, we can't publish that as a frame" and Kubo imperiously slaps him and forces him to put it in the scanner. And the editor breaks out in a cold sweat when he gets the sales numbers and it turns out Japanese fans love this shit.


Wow, I've never actually thought about that. What if he's making the plot, abilities, characters, etc. so obviously terrible so that he can quit?


there's got to be hundreds of "help" messages beneath all that black ink by now.
Life is not fair. But that's what chocolate is for.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
December 20 2014 14:02 GMT
#10031
Stop bashing Kubo already noobs.


Ywach opens his eyes on chapter 605 and tells Monk he's going to die 3 steps before that line.


Look where the Monk died on chapter 610!

Kubo confirmed for the greatest manga-ka ever etcetc.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
December 20 2014 18:41 GMT
#10032
So how exactly did yamamoto beat Ywach?
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
December 22 2014 18:10 GMT
#10033
On December 21 2014 03:41 ticklishmusic wrote:
So how exactly did yamamoto beat Ywach?

well he should be stronger then the Monk
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
December 22 2014 21:09 GMT
#10034
On December 19 2014 22:20 coverpunch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 08:45 SkelA wrote:
Dont hate on Kubo guys , hate on the japanese ppl that still buy his manga.

Kubo is obviously a genius because he knows his manga will sell the same number of copies even if he pours his soul and creativity(if he has any) or just do his own black/white backgrounds into throwing random shit like he has done for years.

I'm under the impression that Kubo has wanted to quit for a long time too but the editor has basically enslaved him to milk that cash cow dry. So yeah, blame the Japanese fans who won't stop buying Bleach stuff but it is the manga editor that is your exploitative capitalist master IMO.


Kubo never wanted to write Bleach past the Ryoka Invasion. It was supposed to end at that point, but the series became too popular to quit.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
December 22 2014 21:18 GMT
#10035
On December 23 2014 06:09 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 22:20 coverpunch wrote:
On December 19 2014 08:45 SkelA wrote:
Dont hate on Kubo guys , hate on the japanese ppl that still buy his manga.

Kubo is obviously a genius because he knows his manga will sell the same number of copies even if he pours his soul and creativity(if he has any) or just do his own black/white backgrounds into throwing random shit like he has done for years.

I'm under the impression that Kubo has wanted to quit for a long time too but the editor has basically enslaved him to milk that cash cow dry. So yeah, blame the Japanese fans who won't stop buying Bleach stuff but it is the manga editor that is your exploitative capitalist master IMO.


Kubo never wanted to write Bleach past the Ryoka Invasion. It was supposed to end at that point, but the series became too popular to quit.


Past the Ryoka invasion?? That's super early though, I think Bleach was damn good up until the end of Aizen.
maru lover forever
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
December 22 2014 21:29 GMT
#10036
On December 23 2014 06:18 Incognoto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2014 06:09 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On December 19 2014 22:20 coverpunch wrote:
On December 19 2014 08:45 SkelA wrote:
Dont hate on Kubo guys , hate on the japanese ppl that still buy his manga.

Kubo is obviously a genius because he knows his manga will sell the same number of copies even if he pours his soul and creativity(if he has any) or just do his own black/white backgrounds into throwing random shit like he has done for years.

I'm under the impression that Kubo has wanted to quit for a long time too but the editor has basically enslaved him to milk that cash cow dry. So yeah, blame the Japanese fans who won't stop buying Bleach stuff but it is the manga editor that is your exploitative capitalist master IMO.


Kubo never wanted to write Bleach past the Ryoka Invasion. It was supposed to end at that point, but the series became too popular to quit.


Past the Ryoka invasion?? That's super early though, I think Bleach was damn good up until the end of Aizen.

Nah, Bleach was One Piece material til the end of the SS arc, after that it was shit, tho the Arancar arc was ok if you read it in one go. Then the SoulBringer stuff was totally shit, and now it's just a big troll.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
December 22 2014 21:35 GMT
#10037
On December 23 2014 06:29 Faust852 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2014 06:18 Incognoto wrote:
On December 23 2014 06:09 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On December 19 2014 22:20 coverpunch wrote:
On December 19 2014 08:45 SkelA wrote:
Dont hate on Kubo guys , hate on the japanese ppl that still buy his manga.

Kubo is obviously a genius because he knows his manga will sell the same number of copies even if he pours his soul and creativity(if he has any) or just do his own black/white backgrounds into throwing random shit like he has done for years.

I'm under the impression that Kubo has wanted to quit for a long time too but the editor has basically enslaved him to milk that cash cow dry. So yeah, blame the Japanese fans who won't stop buying Bleach stuff but it is the manga editor that is your exploitative capitalist master IMO.


Kubo never wanted to write Bleach past the Ryoka Invasion. It was supposed to end at that point, but the series became too popular to quit.


Past the Ryoka invasion?? That's super early though, I think Bleach was damn good up until the end of Aizen.

Nah, Bleach was One Piece material til the end of the SS arc, after that it was shit, tho the Arancar arc was ok if you read it in one go. Then the SoulBringer stuff was totally shit, and now it's just a big troll.

I did it in one go. :p

Bleach was fine to me up until the end of Aizen personally. It had a slower start though than One Piece, things only started really picking up once Rukia was taken in by Byakuya and Renji.
maru lover forever
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
December 22 2014 22:03 GMT
#10038
On December 23 2014 06:18 Incognoto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2014 06:09 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On December 19 2014 22:20 coverpunch wrote:
On December 19 2014 08:45 SkelA wrote:
Dont hate on Kubo guys , hate on the japanese ppl that still buy his manga.

Kubo is obviously a genius because he knows his manga will sell the same number of copies even if he pours his soul and creativity(if he has any) or just do his own black/white backgrounds into throwing random shit like he has done for years.

I'm under the impression that Kubo has wanted to quit for a long time too but the editor has basically enslaved him to milk that cash cow dry. So yeah, blame the Japanese fans who won't stop buying Bleach stuff but it is the manga editor that is your exploitative capitalist master IMO.


Kubo never wanted to write Bleach past the Ryoka Invasion. It was supposed to end at that point, but the series became too popular to quit.


Past the Ryoka invasion?? That's super early though, I think Bleach was damn good up until the end of Aizen.


That's what he claimed in an interview. It certainly appears to correlate with the quality of the series over time. SS arc was the one that was most clearly polished and planned out.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
December 22 2014 22:32 GMT
#10039
On December 23 2014 03:10 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 03:41 ticklishmusic wrote:
So how exactly did yamamoto beat Ywach?

well he should be stronger then the Monk


If he was stronger than the monk then he'd be squad zero and monk wouldn't
Vejake
Profile Joined December 2014
Belgium2 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-22 22:42:15
December 22 2014 22:36 GMT
#10040
mod edit
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