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On May 16 2014 11:13 sumsaR wrote:
Rankings aren't based on how good/bad the mangas are, though. Popularity doesn't always correlate with quality. The only reason Naruto isn't where Bleach is is because Bleach has been really shitty longer than Naruto has, and have had more time to lose/piss off readers.
or maybe because Naruto isnt nearly as bad as the vocal minority likes to pretend?
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Exactly it's sales ranking it does not say what the viewers feel. Of course people still watch the crap for closure. And of course there are also some fanatic still thinks the show is great.
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In my opinion, Bleach at its best was better than Naruto at its best. Right now though, Bleach is without a doubt worse than Naruto. Naruto has a semblance of coherence at least. Both have gone off into the end of Dragonball GT level ridiculousness though. All that's left is for Ishida/Ichigo and Naruto/Sasuke to do a fusion dance.
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On May 16 2014 13:43 MattBarry wrote:
In my opinion, Bleach at its best was better than Naruto at its best. Right now though, Bleach is without a doubt worse than Naruto. Naruto has a semblance of coherence at least. Both have gone off into the end of Dragonball GT level ridiculousness though. All that's left is for Ishida/Ichigo and Naruto/Sasuke to do a fusion dance.
Kubos good at short stories but hes terrible at keeping the plot consistant after a certain period
he wrote zombie powder right? that was good and until the end of SS arc Bleach was great
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On May 16 2014 13:43 MattBarry wrote:
In my opinion, Bleach at its best was better than Naruto at its best. Right now though, Bleach is without a doubt worse than Naruto. Naruto has a semblance of coherence at least. Both have gone off into the end of Dragonball GT level ridiculousness though. All that's left is for Ishida/Ichigo and Naruto/Sasuke to do a fusion dance.
Soul Society arc was pretty good. Although there are a lot of arc naruto is decent with.
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On May 16 2014 12:54 goody153 wrote:
Exactly it's sales ranking it does not say what the viewers feel. Of course people still watch the crap for closure. And of course there are also some fanatic still thinks the show is great.
Those aren't the sales, but I'm not sure it's their popularity either (Haikyuu, Shokugeki, Nikesoi without rankings). It just seems to be the order used for this week for the Jump, even if it gives us an idea of their popularity overall. Even Bleach has some lead color/center color from time to time.
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On May 15 2014 00:01 Beany wrote:
But what sort of impact do the rankings of WSJ have? why should i/we care about them?
Well for starters.
They determine how popular the manga series is within the readers.
And if the series doesn't meet WSJ standards, they get axed
Heard of Beelzebub and Shaman King?
They are examples of popular series that get axed due to low popularity in the WSJ ranking.(kinda ironic)
Not that I am saying Bleach will get axed.
Because Bleach almost certainly wont get axed due to its immense popularity in the past.
However, there is still a very low possibility that it can be axed.
Since frankly speaking, Bleach is actually awful now and the storyline is not coherent and the fights are very uninspiring.
Its not surprising that the popularity of Bleach is being at the bottom tier list for a long time.
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On May 16 2014 20:16 FakeDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2014 00:01 Beany wrote:
But what sort of impact do the rankings of WSJ have? why should i/we care about them? Well for starters. They determine how popular the manga series is within the readers. And if the series doesn't meet WSJ standards, they get axed Heard of Beelzebub and Shaman King? They are examples of popular series that get axed due to low popularity in the WSJ ranking.(kinda ironic) Not that I am saying Bleach will get axed. Because Bleach almost certainly wont get axed due to its immense popularity in the past. However, there is still a very low possibility that it can be axed. Since frankly speaking, Bleach is actually awful now and the storyline is not coherent and the fights are very uninspiring. Its not surprising that the popularity of Bleach is being at the bottom tier list for a long time.
What? Shaman King wasn't popular? How come. D:
I loved that manga/anime
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On May 17 2014 02:54 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2014 20:16 FakeDeath wrote:On May 15 2014 00:01 Beany wrote:
But what sort of impact do the rankings of WSJ have? why should i/we care about them? Well for starters. They determine how popular the manga series is within the readers. And if the series doesn't meet WSJ standards, they get axed Heard of Beelzebub and Shaman King? They are examples of popular series that get axed due to low popularity in the WSJ ranking.(kinda ironic) Not that I am saying Bleach will get axed. Because Bleach almost certainly wont get axed due to its immense popularity in the past. However, there is still a very low possibility that it can be axed. Since frankly speaking, Bleach is actually awful now and the storyline is not coherent and the fights are very uninspiring. Its not surprising that the popularity of Bleach is being at the bottom tier list for a long time. What? Shaman King wasn't popular? How come. D: I loved that manga/anime
seemed pretty boring to me the fights were terrible and the plot wasnt that good it was like fairy tale with no fanservice and worse action
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On May 16 2014 12:54 goody153 wrote:
Exactly it's sales ranking it does not say what the viewers feel. Of course people still watch the crap for closure. And of course there are also some fanatic still thinks the show is great.
It is not sales ranking, it is ranking on Shounen jump. You have no idea how it works.
From what I know, every shounen jump you buy, has a post card. On this post card, you get to choose 3 manga you enjoy the most, thought was the best or the manga you want to see more of in that series of weekly jump. Then you mail these post card back to jump. It basically to create friendly competition amongst manga artist in jump. If you fall under top 10 or even is low rank for quiet some time, you will get axed. Like some people said, Beezlebub was a good example of a popular manga that got axed pretty recently. The most recent manga that got axe was Tokyo Wonder Boys (which lasted 2 month?) and that manga was just god awful.
Bleach has been on the bottom of the ranking for over 3 years now (roughly after aizen defeat) and the only reason it hasnt been canceled was due to it past popularity. Which is why it is given more time for a proper ending and a chance to fix but obviously Kubo has no idea how to fix it. You think Bleach is on its last arc cause it wants too? Evidence from it ranking in Jump will easily point out that it probably a decision from the higher up. Of course it took Bleach years to get to it shit ranking now and I wouldnt be surprise if Naruto continue for 3 more years it probably be in similar situation as Bleach since it quality is also deteriorating but to put Naruto on the same level of shit-ness that Bleach has compiled for over 3 years now is a bit of stretch.
I could link the volume sales too but that too much data but I will say that despite bleach shitness, it still #6 on most sales. Which is pretty damn impressive if you consider all it competition but it spiral downward fast on the sales.
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Thanks for explaining! 
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If I had that postcard I would put:
1. Bleach
2. Bleach
3. Bleach
It's that good.
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On May 17 2014 02:54 sharkie wrote:
What? Shaman King wasn't popular? How come. D:
I loved that manga/anime
It was popular enough to last for 32 volumes or so, but yeah that was sad, we had to wait so many years for the real ending. Shaman King Flowers is terrible tho.
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On May 15 2014 04:45 MoonPieMat wrote:Stop toying with my emotions like that!
BWAHAHAHA
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On May 17 2014 05:03 SheaR619 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2014 12:54 goody153 wrote:
Exactly it's sales ranking it does not say what the viewers feel. Of course people still watch the crap for closure. And of course there are also some fanatic still thinks the show is great. It is not sales ranking, it is ranking on Shounen jump. You have no idea how it works. From what I know, every shounen jump you buy, has a post card. On this post card, you get to choose 3 manga you enjoy the most, thought was the best or the manga you want to see more of in that series of weekly jump. Then you mail these post card back to jump. It basically to create friendly competition amongst manga artist in jump. If you fall under top 10 or even is low rank for quiet some time, you will get axed. Like some people said, Beezlebub was a good example of a popular manga that got axed pretty recently. The most recent manga that got axe was Tokyo Wonder Boys (which lasted 2 month?) and that manga was just god awful. Bleach has been on the bottom of the ranking for over 3 years now (roughly after aizen defeat) and the only reason it hasnt been canceled was due to it past popularity. Which is why it is given more time for a proper ending and a chance to fix but obviously Kubo has no idea how to fix it. You think Bleach is on its last arc cause it wants too? Evidence from it ranking in Jump will easily point out that it probably a decision from the higher up. Of course it took Bleach years to get to it shit ranking now and I wouldnt be surprise if Naruto continue for 3 more years it probably be in similar situation as Bleach since it quality is also deteriorating but to put Naruto on the same level of shit-ness that Bleach has compiled for over 3 years now is a bit of stretch. I could link the volume sales too but that too much data but I will say that despite bleach shitness, it still #6 on most sales. Which is pretty damn impressive if you consider all it competition but it spiral downward fast on the sales.
The manga Bakuman explains this very well and is really great imho.
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New chapter is out. Just don't read it. Don't. You have been warned.
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Not much happening, but at least we might have an interesting chapter next week.
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I feel like I just read last week's chapter with the panels drawn from a slightly different perspective. Literally nothing new happened.
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Well at least we know that vizard guy wasn't killed by the previous quincy girl.
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