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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
May 16 2014 03:50 GMT
#9081
On May 16 2014 11:13 sumsaR wrote:
Rankings aren't based on how good/bad the mangas are, though. Popularity doesn't always correlate with quality. The only reason Naruto isn't where Bleach is is because Bleach has been really shitty longer than Naruto has, and have had more time to lose/piss off readers.

or maybe because Naruto isnt nearly as bad as the vocal minority likes to pretend?
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44238 Posts
May 16 2014 03:54 GMT
#9082
Exactly it's sales ranking it does not say what the viewers feel. Of course people still watch the crap for closure. And of course there are also some fanatic still thinks the show is great.
this is a quote
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
May 16 2014 04:43 GMT
#9083
In my opinion, Bleach at its best was better than Naruto at its best. Right now though, Bleach is without a doubt worse than Naruto. Naruto has a semblance of coherence at least. Both have gone off into the end of Dragonball GT level ridiculousness though. All that's left is for Ishida/Ichigo and Naruto/Sasuke to do a fusion dance.
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-16 04:46:25
May 16 2014 04:45 GMT
#9084
On May 16 2014 13:43 MattBarry wrote:
In my opinion, Bleach at its best was better than Naruto at its best. Right now though, Bleach is without a doubt worse than Naruto. Naruto has a semblance of coherence at least. Both have gone off into the end of Dragonball GT level ridiculousness though. All that's left is for Ishida/Ichigo and Naruto/Sasuke to do a fusion dance.

Kubos good at short stories but hes terrible at keeping the plot consistant after a certain period

he wrote zombie powder right? that was good and until the end of SS arc Bleach was great
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44238 Posts
May 16 2014 05:51 GMT
#9085
On May 16 2014 13:43 MattBarry wrote:
In my opinion, Bleach at its best was better than Naruto at its best. Right now though, Bleach is without a doubt worse than Naruto. Naruto has a semblance of coherence at least. Both have gone off into the end of Dragonball GT level ridiculousness though. All that's left is for Ishida/Ichigo and Naruto/Sasuke to do a fusion dance.

Soul Society arc was pretty good. Although there are a lot of arc naruto is decent with.
this is a quote
Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2280 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-16 08:53:42
May 16 2014 08:52 GMT
#9086
On May 16 2014 12:54 goody153 wrote:
Exactly it's sales ranking it does not say what the viewers feel. Of course people still watch the crap for closure. And of course there are also some fanatic still thinks the show is great.

Those aren't the sales, but I'm not sure it's their popularity either (Haikyuu, Shokugeki, Nikesoi without rankings). It just seems to be the order used for this week for the Jump, even if it gives us an idea of their popularity overall. Even Bleach has some lead color/center color from time to time.
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-16 11:18:14
May 16 2014 11:16 GMT
#9087
On May 15 2014 00:01 Beany wrote:
But what sort of impact do the rankings of WSJ have? why should i/we care about them?


Well for starters.
They determine how popular the manga series is within the readers.

And if the series doesn't meet WSJ standards, they get axed
Heard of Beelzebub and Shaman King?
They are examples of popular series that get axed due to low popularity in the WSJ ranking.(kinda ironic)

Not that I am saying Bleach will get axed.
Because Bleach almost certainly wont get axed due to its immense popularity in the past.

However, there is still a very low possibility that it can be axed.
Since frankly speaking, Bleach is actually awful now and the storyline is not coherent and the fights are very uninspiring.
Its not surprising that the popularity of Bleach is being at the bottom tier list for a long time.
Play your best
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18595 Posts
May 16 2014 17:54 GMT
#9088
On May 16 2014 20:16 FakeDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2014 00:01 Beany wrote:
But what sort of impact do the rankings of WSJ have? why should i/we care about them?


Well for starters.
They determine how popular the manga series is within the readers.

And if the series doesn't meet WSJ standards, they get axed
Heard of Beelzebub and Shaman King?
They are examples of popular series that get axed due to low popularity in the WSJ ranking.(kinda ironic)

Not that I am saying Bleach will get axed.
Because Bleach almost certainly wont get axed due to its immense popularity in the past.

However, there is still a very low possibility that it can be axed.
Since frankly speaking, Bleach is actually awful now and the storyline is not coherent and the fights are very uninspiring.
Its not surprising that the popularity of Bleach is being at the bottom tier list for a long time.


What? Shaman King wasn't popular? How come. D:
I loved that manga/anime
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
May 16 2014 17:58 GMT
#9089
On May 17 2014 02:54 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2014 20:16 FakeDeath wrote:
On May 15 2014 00:01 Beany wrote:
But what sort of impact do the rankings of WSJ have? why should i/we care about them?


Well for starters.
They determine how popular the manga series is within the readers.

And if the series doesn't meet WSJ standards, they get axed
Heard of Beelzebub and Shaman King?
They are examples of popular series that get axed due to low popularity in the WSJ ranking.(kinda ironic)

Not that I am saying Bleach will get axed.
Because Bleach almost certainly wont get axed due to its immense popularity in the past.

However, there is still a very low possibility that it can be axed.
Since frankly speaking, Bleach is actually awful now and the storyline is not coherent and the fights are very uninspiring.
Its not surprising that the popularity of Bleach is being at the bottom tier list for a long time.


What? Shaman King wasn't popular? How come. D:
I loved that manga/anime

seemed pretty boring to me the fights were terrible and the plot wasnt that good it was like fairy tale with no fanservice and worse action
SheaR619
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2399 Posts
May 16 2014 20:03 GMT
#9090
On May 16 2014 12:54 goody153 wrote:
Exactly it's sales ranking it does not say what the viewers feel. Of course people still watch the crap for closure. And of course there are also some fanatic still thinks the show is great.


It is not sales ranking, it is ranking on Shounen jump. You have no idea how it works.

From what I know, every shounen jump you buy, has a post card. On this post card, you get to choose 3 manga you enjoy the most, thought was the best or the manga you want to see more of in that series of weekly jump. Then you mail these post card back to jump. It basically to create friendly competition amongst manga artist in jump. If you fall under top 10 or even is low rank for quiet some time, you will get axed. Like some people said, Beezlebub was a good example of a popular manga that got axed pretty recently. The most recent manga that got axe was Tokyo Wonder Boys (which lasted 2 month?) and that manga was just god awful.

Bleach has been on the bottom of the ranking for over 3 years now (roughly after aizen defeat) and the only reason it hasnt been canceled was due to it past popularity. Which is why it is given more time for a proper ending and a chance to fix but obviously Kubo has no idea how to fix it. You think Bleach is on its last arc cause it wants too? Evidence from it ranking in Jump will easily point out that it probably a decision from the higher up. Of course it took Bleach years to get to it shit ranking now and I wouldnt be surprise if Naruto continue for 3 more years it probably be in similar situation as Bleach since it quality is also deteriorating but to put Naruto on the same level of shit-ness that Bleach has compiled for over 3 years now is a bit of stretch.

I could link the volume sales too but that too much data but I will say that despite bleach shitness, it still #6 on most sales. Which is pretty damn impressive if you consider all it competition but it spiral downward fast on the sales.
I may not be the best, but i will be some day...
Beany
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands396 Posts
May 16 2014 20:51 GMT
#9091
Thanks for explaining!
Rejoice, for very bad things are about to happen!
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3394 Posts
May 16 2014 22:44 GMT
#9092
If I had that postcard I would put:

1. Bleach
2. Bleach
3. Bleach

It's that good.
Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2280 Posts
May 16 2014 23:03 GMT
#9093
On May 17 2014 02:54 sharkie wrote:
What? Shaman King wasn't popular? How come. D:
I loved that manga/anime

It was popular enough to last for 32 volumes or so, but yeah that was sad, we had to wait so many years for the real ending. Shaman King Flowers is terrible tho.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
May 17 2014 00:31 GMT
#9094
On May 15 2014 04:45 MoonPieMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2014 03:07 acker wrote:
It's Don Kanonji.


Stop toying with my emotions like that!

BWAHAHAHA
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Razhil
Profile Joined May 2011
Belgium208 Posts
May 18 2014 10:09 GMT
#9095
On May 17 2014 05:03 SheaR619 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2014 12:54 goody153 wrote:
Exactly it's sales ranking it does not say what the viewers feel. Of course people still watch the crap for closure. And of course there are also some fanatic still thinks the show is great.


It is not sales ranking, it is ranking on Shounen jump. You have no idea how it works.

From what I know, every shounen jump you buy, has a post card. On this post card, you get to choose 3 manga you enjoy the most, thought was the best or the manga you want to see more of in that series of weekly jump. Then you mail these post card back to jump. It basically to create friendly competition amongst manga artist in jump. If you fall under top 10 or even is low rank for quiet some time, you will get axed. Like some people said, Beezlebub was a good example of a popular manga that got axed pretty recently. The most recent manga that got axe was Tokyo Wonder Boys (which lasted 2 month?) and that manga was just god awful.

Bleach has been on the bottom of the ranking for over 3 years now (roughly after aizen defeat) and the only reason it hasnt been canceled was due to it past popularity. Which is why it is given more time for a proper ending and a chance to fix but obviously Kubo has no idea how to fix it. You think Bleach is on its last arc cause it wants too? Evidence from it ranking in Jump will easily point out that it probably a decision from the higher up. Of course it took Bleach years to get to it shit ranking now and I wouldnt be surprise if Naruto continue for 3 more years it probably be in similar situation as Bleach since it quality is also deteriorating but to put Naruto on the same level of shit-ness that Bleach has compiled for over 3 years now is a bit of stretch.

I could link the volume sales too but that too much data but I will say that despite bleach shitness, it still #6 on most sales. Which is pretty damn impressive if you consider all it competition but it spiral downward fast on the sales.


The manga Bakuman explains this very well and is really great imho.
SupportDotA2
Profile Joined September 2013
Japan307 Posts
May 21 2014 09:14 GMT
#9096
New chapter is out. Just don't read it. Don't. You have been warned.
Kappa
Eshra
Profile Joined April 2011
France1009 Posts
May 21 2014 09:16 GMT
#9097
Not much happening, but at least we might have an interesting chapter next week.
Vortok
Profile Joined December 2009
United States830 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-21 09:21:41
May 21 2014 09:21 GMT
#9098
I feel like I just read last week's chapter with the panels drawn from a slightly different perspective. Literally nothing new happened.
Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2280 Posts
May 21 2014 09:28 GMT
#9099
Well at least we know that vizard guy wasn't killed by the previous quincy girl.
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
May 21 2014 09:39 GMT
#9100
Son goku arrived
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