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Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2280 Posts
January 15 2014 19:19 GMT
#8381
This bankai reminds me of Shaman King, the part where they understand a big ass furyoku doesn't require a big ass summon, and they start going for those shields and swords.
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
January 15 2014 19:49 GMT
#8382
I'm assuming Kubo will make it so that Manako (or whatever) to deem the user worthy before allowing them to know the name. That way powerups will only be given to those who Kubo wants to show off (*cough* Zaraki *cough*).

He does say to Renji that Renji has become "powerful enough".
Yargh
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
January 15 2014 20:16 GMT
#8383
On January 16 2014 04:49 JinDesu wrote:
I'm assuming Kubo will make it so that Manako (or whatever) to deem the user worthy before allowing them to know the name. That way powerups will only be given to those who Kubo wants to show off (*cough* Zaraki *cough*).

He does say to Renji that Renji has become "powerful enough".

"Plot relevant" you mean?
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
January 15 2014 21:05 GMT
#8384
Yeah basically - by saying that he's only giving it to Renji because Renji has become powerful enough, Kubo is giving himself the ability to up the bankai of those who are plot relevant. Everyone else can remain shitty.
Yargh
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-15 21:11:05
January 15 2014 21:10 GMT
#8385
Shitty writing and slow plot progression are Kubo's specialities.
Eshra
Profile Joined April 2011
France1009 Posts
January 15 2014 21:16 GMT
#8386
You should be like me and just enjoy Bleach for the great art. That way, you are never disappointed. Whatever the story is, the art always remains awesome.
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-15 22:23:52
January 15 2014 22:21 GMT
#8387
On January 16 2014 06:16 Eshra wrote:
You should be like me and just enjoy Bleach for the great art. That way, you are never disappointed. Whatever the story is, the art always remains awesome.

I don't read Bleach for the art. It's pretty bland and boring in my opinion. I like details (especially in backgrounds, makes it seem more alive — see OP and Berserk for reference). Kubo doesn't. He prefers close-ups.
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
January 15 2014 22:26 GMT
#8388
Kubo's art is good in some places, bad in others. The characters are all drawn really well, and almost all of them are distinct from the other. The designs of the characters and their powers are also cool. It'd be clear what they're doing all the time if Kubo liked to show the audience where the hell the characters are though. I honestly cannot tell what the hell is going on a lot of the time without rereading a bit, because he likes to either put nothing behind them during slightly actiony battle scenes, and fucking clutter and shit in intense battle scenes.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
January 15 2014 22:40 GMT
#8389
So what stupid reason will Kubo make for this guy being unable to regenerate from this?
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
January 15 2014 22:43 GMT
#8390
Well, he killed his own cheerers before, so that might be it.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
January 15 2014 23:08 GMT
#8391
On January 16 2014 04:19 Lysteria wrote:
This bankai reminds me of Shaman King, the part where they understand a big ass furyoku doesn't require a big ass summon, and they start going for those shields and swords.


that's exactly what i was gonna post lol

all these upgrades are so pointless nowadays, they don't even look better or stronger -_-
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Takuma
Profile Joined January 2014
146 Posts
January 16 2014 00:51 GMT
#8392
On January 16 2014 04:10 sumsaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 00:33 Takuma wrote:
On January 15 2014 23:45 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
Who the hell are these swords that effectively weaken their owners by withholding their powers? Do these sword have a future outside of their holder and can act independently?? If not this deception is totally pointless.


Watch the filler anime arc on Zanpakto. It's actually the best of the filler arcs and quite enjoyable to watch.

It's not canon. Irrelevant information not pertaining to the manga. Disregard it.


Why the fuck should he disregard it? Just because fillers in general cop a lot of flack doesn't mean this one wasn't good. In fact, it had a lot of battle scenes similar to when the anime went through the SS arc. Just because it doesn't fit your perfect world where all anime fillers are automatically shit doesn't mean that everyone else feels the same. If the guy wants to watch a decent filler with decent battles, then he should watch it and disregard your conservative opinions on what should and shouldn't be relevant to one's enjoyment.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-16 01:23:04
January 16 2014 01:22 GMT
#8393
So Aizen didnt know the real name of his Zanpaktou as well?

scary :3
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
January 16 2014 02:42 GMT
#8394
On January 16 2014 10:22 Mensol wrote:
So Aizen didnt know the real name of his Zanpaktou as well?

scary :3



Not necessarily. Just because Renji's bankai didn't tell him its full name doesn't mean Aizen's didn't
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
January 16 2014 02:55 GMT
#8395
On January 16 2014 09:51 Takuma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 04:10 sumsaR wrote:
On January 16 2014 00:33 Takuma wrote:
On January 15 2014 23:45 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
Who the hell are these swords that effectively weaken their owners by withholding their powers? Do these sword have a future outside of their holder and can act independently?? If not this deception is totally pointless.


Watch the filler anime arc on Zanpakto. It's actually the best of the filler arcs and quite enjoyable to watch.

It's not canon. Irrelevant information not pertaining to the manga. Disregard it.


Why the fuck should he disregard it? Just because fillers in general cop a lot of flack doesn't mean this one wasn't good. In fact, it had a lot of battle scenes similar to when the anime went through the SS arc. Just because it doesn't fit your perfect world where all anime fillers are automatically shit doesn't mean that everyone else feels the same. If the guy wants to watch a decent filler with decent battles, then he should watch it and disregard your conservative opinions on what should and shouldn't be relevant to one's enjoyment.


calm down bud. the filler arc isn't canon so it doesn't answer the original guy's question, which is why it should be disregarded wrt useful information. he doesn't say anything about "don't watch it fillers suuuuck"
Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
January 16 2014 03:01 GMT
#8396
Oh I finally get it. Renji was a plot device initially, to give Ichigo a person to test out his new Shikai against (and Byakuya was the one he tested Bankai against). Now, that makes Renji a pretty weak Lieutenant, since a lot of them apparently already had Bankai. Then he became the weakest member of the shinigami party, to pave to way for the entrance of Captain class shinigami to save his hide. Despite this, he's still highly regarded by others as the next Captain. To explain the huge power gap (and how it's gonna be closed), Kubo suddenly said that all along, Renji was operating at half power!

Makes perfect kubosense.
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
MaZza[KIS]
Profile Joined December 2005
Australia2110 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-16 04:18:23
January 16 2014 04:04 GMT
#8397
People talking about Renji's zunpukuto not telling him his name consider the following:

1. Kyoraku - 100's of years old - his zunpukuto doesnt always listen to him/is tempremental - this was revealed even before zunpukuto arc
2. Kenpachi - his zunpukuto will not tell him his name - learnt from the beginning of the manga
3. Yumichika - he can partially release his zunpukuto by calling it a different name.
4. Toshiro - his zunpukuto is in an "evolving" state and his bankai is unpolished (does not appear as it would in it's final form)
5. Ikkaku - has an unpolished bankai that is tempremental and won't work at times.

Everything we know about zunpukuto gives them their own (independent if you will) personality, thoughts etc. The "concept" of learning your bankai is almost like "learning your true self" - a lot of us live in denial and I guess the zunpukuto are a reflection of self.
I really wanted a bigger opponent, like Nate Marquardt, or King Neptune, or Zeus, or Zeus and Fedor, or Fedor on Zeus's shoulders, and they can both punch but only Zeus can kick.
MaZza[KIS]
Profile Joined December 2005
Australia2110 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-16 04:17:03
January 16 2014 04:15 GMT
#8398
On January 16 2014 12:01 Caladbolg wrote:
Oh I finally get it. Renji was a plot device initially, to give Ichigo a person to test out his new Shikai against (and Byakuya was the one he tested Bankai against). Now, that makes Renji a pretty weak Lieutenant, since a lot of them apparently already had Bankai. Renji didnt have his bankai during his first fight with Ichigo, he attained it the same way as Ichigo albeit faster than Ichigo! Ascertainw what you want from that. The only other liutenant that had Bankai at that time was Ikkaku (Baldie) - Then he became the weakest member of the shinigami party, to pave to way for the entrance of Captain class shinigami to save his hide. Despite this, he's still highly regarded by others as the next Captain. This could have somethign to do with things other than his power level... Not all captains are on the same level... certainly Mayuri is piss weak compared to other captains... same with Toshiro To explain the huge power gap (and how it's gonna be closed), Kubo suddenly said that all along, Renji was operating at half power! Plenty of instances where Zunpukuto, like Toshiro's are stated to be operating at a "lower power level" because of the wielders level of strength and experience

Makes perfect kubosense.


Wow bro... your sense is worse than kubos. My comments inserted in your msg above.. I think you're reaching just as far as Kubo is with your analysis and extrapolation of things...
I really wanted a bigger opponent, like Nate Marquardt, or King Neptune, or Zeus, or Zeus and Fedor, or Fedor on Zeus's shoulders, and they can both punch but only Zeus can kick.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
January 16 2014 04:56 GMT
#8399
1. Kyoraku - 100's of years old - his zunpukuto doesnt always listen to him/is tempremental - this was revealed even before zunpukuto arc


its more that he doesnt like to use tis ability then it doesnt listen to him

2. Kenpachi - his zunpukuto will not tell him his name - learnt from the beginning of the manga


because Kenpachi never bothered to try to get close to it and learn the name, he just used it as a tool

3. Yumichika - he can partially release his zunpukuto by calling it a different name.


but his Zanpaktou still told him the right name

4. Toshiro - his zunpukuto is in an "evolving" state and his bankai is unpolished (does not appear as it would in it's final form)


that is its final form, he just cant control it very well and maintain it forever

5. Ikkaku - has an unpolished bankai that is tempremental and won't work at times.


it would work whenever, he jsut refuses to show anyone it

also Renji DID NOT get his Bankai the same way Ichigo did, Ichigo cheated and used the doll to force the final stage, Renji did it the right way by conversing with his zanpaktou, building a relationship managing to properly manifest it and training with it until he could achieve bankai
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12908 Posts
January 16 2014 06:13 GMT
#8400
On January 16 2014 07:40 andrewlt wrote:
So what stupid reason will Kubo make for this guy being unable to regenerate from this?

"burn out" lol
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
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