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Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9319 Posts
June 08 2013 13:40 GMT
#19461
I think most people don't mind Sam but he's not their favorite character so we only get to see hate posts. I like him and I don't think he's wasting screen time.
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Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
June 08 2013 13:50 GMT
#19462
On June 08 2013 22:40 Sent. wrote:
I think most people don't mind Sam but he's not their favorite character so we only get to see hate posts. I like him and I don't think he's wasting screen time.

I like him but I also think they are maybe putting a bit too much screen time in for him, I mean they need to give him some and clearly they want to develop his character but I think they give him a bit too much!

Also too who ever was talking about Jon Snow's actor, that guy is playing that role perfectly! What do you expect a virgin young male to do when some smoking hot red headed chick starts getting naked? Their is no conflict their I don't care what vows have been sworn or how dedicated you are to the night's watch(Which a ton of it's members are known to have gone out to whore houses while on the watch, so clearly not the biggest of broken oaths there).

IMO the actor is doing a very, very good job at portraying Jon Snow right now and has nailed what I think that character in the show should be like!
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CrimsonLotus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Colombia1123 Posts
June 08 2013 14:04 GMT
#19463
I just saw a spoilery picture of next episode on Reddit, won't comment on it's nature of course but... HBO is really breaking grounds with what they show on TV.
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Kazius
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Israel1456 Posts
June 08 2013 14:07 GMT
#19464
On June 08 2013 22:15 Mafe wrote:
Isn't Sam basically a 100%-stereotype nerd that was born in the wrong time/universe....? Who really likes nerds like him in the "real world"? Probably not many.

Hey, one of my three best friends is a "nerd like him" in the "real world". He did grow up to be a "normal guy" in his twenties, but how could you not like someone that's a combination of intelligent and gentle in spirit? Sure, the average person likes the bully more than the stereotype of the bullied (which is what you are REALLY getting at)... but if we are going about stereotypes he fits, he is the classic fantasy "bumbling wizard" (Neville Longbottom) or "weak hero" (Frodo Baggins) archetypes, depending on how he develops.
Friendship is like peeing yourself. Anyone can see it, but only you get that warm feeling.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
June 08 2013 14:08 GMT
#19465
On June 08 2013 21:17 OutlaW- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 21:09 h41fgod wrote:
On June 08 2013 21:00 OutlaW- wrote:
On June 08 2013 20:58 SkelA wrote:
UGH thank god i missed a spoiler -_-.

Are you really this paranoid. What he said wasn't even a spoiler, why do people make such a huge deal out of this? (Not saying talking about that dude that just got slammed)

I dont really care about the "spoiler", but he was breaking a few of the site rules and thread specific rules with a post count of 7. Yeah. I made the report.

That's exactly what I was not talking about, I was talking about the paranoia and overreaction to spoilers

Because this thread is specifically geared to people who DON'T enjoy spoilers, and don't want to be even close to them
Elizar
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany431 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 14:35:18
June 08 2013 14:32 GMT
#19466
On June 08 2013 22:15 Mafe wrote:
Isn't Sam basically a 100%-stereotype nerd that was born in the wrong time/universe....? Who really likes nerds like him in the "real world"? Probably not many.


yeah, right? who doesn´t like nerds on a website like TL. we´re all superstars here with bodies of athletes, the minds of albert einstein´s calibre and stuff ...
i prefer "nerds" like him over many people thinking they are better human beings.

edit: spelling
Elizar
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany431 Posts
June 08 2013 14:36 GMT
#19467
On June 08 2013 23:08 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 21:17 OutlaW- wrote:
On June 08 2013 21:09 h41fgod wrote:
On June 08 2013 21:00 OutlaW- wrote:
On June 08 2013 20:58 SkelA wrote:
UGH thank god i missed a spoiler -_-.

Are you really this paranoid. What he said wasn't even a spoiler, why do people make such a huge deal out of this? (Not saying talking about that dude that just got slammed)

I dont really care about the "spoiler", but he was breaking a few of the site rules and thread specific rules with a post count of 7. Yeah. I made the report.

That's exactly what I was not talking about, I was talking about the paranoia and overreaction to spoilers

Because this thread is specifically geared to people who DON'T enjoy spoilers, and don't want to be even close to them

... and if someone wants spoilers, there is the other thread. you´re welcome to go and stay there.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8269 Posts
June 08 2013 16:15 GMT
#19468
On June 08 2013 23:36 Elizar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 23:08 mordk wrote:
On June 08 2013 21:17 OutlaW- wrote:
On June 08 2013 21:09 h41fgod wrote:
On June 08 2013 21:00 OutlaW- wrote:
On June 08 2013 20:58 SkelA wrote:
UGH thank god i missed a spoiler -_-.

Are you really this paranoid. What he said wasn't even a spoiler, why do people make such a huge deal out of this? (Not saying talking about that dude that just got slammed)

I dont really care about the "spoiler", but he was breaking a few of the site rules and thread specific rules with a post count of 7. Yeah. I made the report.

That's exactly what I was not talking about, I was talking about the paranoia and overreaction to spoilers

Because this thread is specifically geared to people who DON'T enjoy spoilers, and don't want to be even close to them

... and if someone wants spoilers, there is the other thread. you´re welcome to go and stay there.


Unless you haven't read all the books yet, in which case theres no place in TL for a poor sod.
McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
June 08 2013 16:41 GMT
#19469
I dont think its an issue of Sam being given too much screentime, its that there isn't enough screentime to go around. I like Sam's story and its one of the stories with something positive going on - but Id prefer to see other characters.

Also .... for those scared of spoilers just stay away from this thread. It seems to be fine the day after an episode but I've read enough comments to piece together what is going to happen tomorrow
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 17:24:25
June 08 2013 17:21 GMT
#19470
On June 08 2013 23:04 CrimsonLotus wrote:
I just saw a spoilery picture of next episode on Reddit, won't comment on it's nature of course but... HBO is really breaking grounds with what they show on TV.

I have a sneaking suspicion I know what picture you're talking about. Oh man.

Also, I really wouldn't say Sam's the only character with alot of possible development. Ayra and Sansa, for instance, are undergoing a great deal of development through the series thus far.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
June 08 2013 20:23 GMT
#19471
Tyrion too. His dick is undergoing a lot of character development.

So how come we haven't heard anything about the ministry of finance or the iron bank recently?
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killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
June 08 2013 20:43 GMT
#19472
On June 09 2013 05:23 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Tyrion too. His dick is undergoing a lot of character development.

So how come we haven't heard anything about the ministry of finance or the iron bank recently?


Cause the main focus of Tyrion has been his wedding. I imagine now that the North's army has been defeated, and that he's now married, the Iron bank will probably be mentioned and teased as another threat to the throne for next season.
Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
June 08 2013 20:50 GMT
#19473
On June 08 2013 20:01 sc4k wrote:
Yes I am with you. Samwell is surely the worst and most awkward character.


I find it a bit weird that so many of us nerds dislike the most nerdy character so much.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
June 08 2013 20:56 GMT
#19474
On June 09 2013 05:50 Zandar wrote:
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On June 08 2013 20:01 sc4k wrote:
Yes I am with you. Samwell is surely the worst and most awkward character.


I find it a bit weird that so many of us nerds dislike the most nerdy character so much.


I don't think most of us dislike Sam for his nerdiness, but rather for being so utterly useless - which really has very little to do with him supposedly being a nerd.
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
June 08 2013 21:05 GMT
#19475
On June 09 2013 05:56 Ghostcom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 05:50 Zandar wrote:
On June 08 2013 20:01 sc4k wrote:
Yes I am with you. Samwell is surely the worst and most awkward character.


I find it a bit weird that so many of us nerds dislike the most nerdy character so much.


I don't think most of us dislike Sam for his nerdiness, but rather for being so utterly useless - which really has very little to do with him supposedly being a nerd.

Okay, how is being "useless" something you don't want to see in a story? This seems to be the main complaint (at least the one that isn't completely idiotic), but I don't really get it. I watch a show, especially one like GoT, because I want to see characters interact with each other. I want character development, story development, yadda yadda. I get all of that with a character like Sam, even if he is by some definition completely useless.

The only argument I can come up with is, again, the lack of ass-kicking he does in comparison to most other characters. But that's a pretty shallow reason, so I'll just give the benefit of the doubt here and assume that's not the reason and I just don't get it.
Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 21:10:47
June 08 2013 21:07 GMT
#19476
On June 09 2013 05:56 Ghostcom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 05:50 Zandar wrote:
On June 08 2013 20:01 sc4k wrote:
Yes I am with you. Samwell is surely the worst and most awkward character.


I find it a bit weird that so many of us nerds dislike the most nerdy character so much.


I don't think most of us dislike Sam for his nerdiness, but rather for being so utterly useless - which really has very little to do with him supposedly being a nerd.


Sam:

- knows how to read and handle ravens as one of the few in the night watch
- helps Crasters daughter escape, while nobody else gives a shit
- helps Jon Snow with saying to Mormont that he's happy to take Jon's job as a steward when Jon wants to go with the halfhand
- finds a dragonglass knife and somehow he thinks its important enough to keep it, while the other 2 rangers just ignore it.
- survives a whight attack. With help of a direwolf, ok fair enough. But that direwolf, why would he help an utterly useless person?
- is seen by a whole undead army with white walkers and they just ignore him
- kills a white walker
- has a lot of book knowledge that even saved lives. He tells the others about the "3 times = white walkers" horn blow, later on making him and 2 comrades run and survive because they knew what it meant
- is a good friend to people around him
- and a friendly and caring person in general.

so that's utterly useless, ok....
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 21:35:08
June 08 2013 21:34 GMT
#19477
Ok, this made me chuckle.

http://i.imgur.com/dUxOQpr.png
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
June 08 2013 21:39 GMT
#19478
On June 09 2013 06:34 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Ok, this made me chuckle.

http://i.imgur.com/dUxOQpr.png


Hopefully he doesn't wipe his ass with the wrong hand
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Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 21:56:27
June 08 2013 21:55 GMT
#19479
You know whats a perfect example as to why most people hate Sam, I feel? He's telling the incest broad [cant recall her name] about this and that and she calls him a wizard. Which, firstly, is not something be proud of but appropriately cause someone sadness, given its a sign of the poverty of her existence up to that point. But more importantly his response to this is this shy, half hearted, pathetic smile and laugh.

Whatever Sam is capable of intellectually or whatever hes accomplished, hes just straight up pathetic. Hes the kind of guy that in seconds of meeting, you want to beat on.
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ElectricWizard
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway200 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 22:06:29
June 08 2013 22:05 GMT
#19480
On June 09 2013 06:55 Dazed_Spy wrote:
You know whats a perfect example as to why most people hate Sam, I feel? He's telling the incest broad [cant recall her name] about this and that and she calls him a wizard. Which, firstly, is not something be proud of but appropriately cause someone sadness, given its a sign of the poverty of her existence up to that point. But more importantly his response to this is this shy, half hearted, pathetic smile and laugh.

Whatever Sam is capable of intellectually or whatever hes accomplished, hes just straight up pathetic. Hes the kind of guy that in seconds of meeting, you want to beat on.

The "incest broad" has a name, it's Gilly. He obviously has an extremely low self-esteem, and her telling him that she think's his ability to read is amazing, is obviously a heartwarming moment for him. If your first thought when meeting shy, introverted, "weak" and book-ish people is to physically assault them, well, there might be something horribly wrong with you. Perhaps I would find him annoying, perhaps I'd pity him, but wanting to beat him because he's pathetic? What kind of a horrible attitude is that?
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