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On October 05 2012 08:54 rave[wcr] wrote: i for one am withholding my judgement of kishi as a writer until the whole of naruto shippuden is finished.
Yes, seems to be the best thing to do. I always thought there were plotholes and didnt like kishi for that, but if he DID plan it all out, and it fits in the end, I would look quite the fool.
So, lets wait and see.
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Wait, I see that you're all talking about a fight beteween Obito and Minato, but I don't remember that at all. Is there a flashback or any stuff like that in a previous chapter ?
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I want more flashbacks!
Any chapter with Minato fighting in it is so cool!
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Great, so being pissed off let you use a ton of Jutsu you've never had any experience with.
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On October 10 2012 13:51 ddrddrddrddr wrote: Great, so being pissed off let you use a ton of Jutsu you've never had any experience with.
we know how it always is anyway, plus the eye bleeding.
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On October 10 2012 13:51 ddrddrddrddr wrote: Great, so being pissed off let you use a ton of Jutsu you've never had any experience with. ya not like hes fused with a creature who does know how to use them and have the blood of the deuschiha flowing through his veins
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Probably the goriest page of Naruto I've ever seen. Seriously there's enough blood to fill a swimming pool and theres like 20 mutilated corpses.
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yep rin was probably a double agent just like kabuto. planted and trained young, no one will ever expect a child, even more so, a little girl feigning the innocence of being a nurse / learning medical ninjitsu. not surprising, that kabuto wasn't the only one, it's almost the perfect disguise. if the child is also a prodigy, and a fast learner, it would then explain why she was also capable of eye transplant for kakashi. which is highly likely since just like danzo, they only pick from the pool of the 0.0001%
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Too much darkness in Obito. He should just take it easy.
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On October 10 2012 14:00 saocyn wrote: yep rin was probably a double agent just like kabuto. planted and trained young, no one will ever expect a child, even more so, a little girl feigning the innocence of being a nurse / learning medical ninjitsu. not surprising, that kabuto wasn't the only one, it's almost the perfect disguise. if the child is also a prodigy, and a fast learner, it would then explain why she was also capable of eye transplant for kakashi. which is highly likely since just like danzo, they only pick from the pool of the 0.0001% especially if someone in mist knew that jutsu Sasori used to create sleeper agents
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I don't think Rin was a double agent, judging from what the other ninjas were saying.
"At least retrieve the woman"- if they knew her, presumably since she worked for/with them, they would have called her by some name. "The woman" sounds like they don't know her at all.
"After we worked so much to get it" sounds like the plan they had to get Rin and Kakashi alone. This is backed by one ninja going "Reinforcements!?" when Obito arrived, because they were probably not expecting anyone else. If Rin were a double agent, I don't think it would've been too difficult for her to just go out and drop off info/meet up with the enemy. It also doesn't make sense why she's standing in the middle of the group of ninjas with Kakashi instead of running behind them for protection.
Of course this is all based on what might be a quick translation, so who knows what other groups with translate it as.
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On October 10 2012 14:05 Sigrun wrote: I don't think Rin was a double agent, judging from what the other ninjas were saying.
"At least retrieve the woman"- if they knew her, presumably since she worked for/with them, they would have called her by some name. "The woman" sounds like they don't know her at all.
"After we worked so much to get it" sounds like the plan they had to get Rin and Kakashi alone. This is backed by one ninja going "Reinforcements!?" when Obito arrived, because they were probably not expecting anyone else. If Rin were a double agent, I don't think it would've been too difficult for her to just go out and drop off info/meet up with the enemy. It also doesn't make sense why she's standing in the middle of the group of ninjas with Kakashi instead of running behind them for protection.
Of course this is all based on what might be a quick translation, so who knows what other groups with translate it as. they are from the bloody mist village, who created the Demon Zabuza from having kids kill there firends at a young age its not odd at all they dont care about her name... but ya i dont think shes a double agent who got planted probably more like a sleeper agent whos "programmed" to return to mist village after so long to give them info most likely they want the body to prevent the jutsu they used from being discovered by Konoha and used agaisnt them
also seems like Obito already has had his growth spurt he looks about the same size as the mist ninjas
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too much fighting and not enough development in this chapter imo. but i think it's cool kishi is exploring the kamui world. i guess kakashi has had ms from the beginning of naruto and used the timeskip to train it or something. still lots of questions about kakashi though.
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On October 10 2012 14:09 Diglett wrote: too much fighting and not enough development in this chapter imo. but i think it's cool kishi is exploring the kamui world. i guess kakashi has had ms from the beginning of naruto and used the timeskip to train it or something. still lots of questions about kakashi though. its a really hard technique to use in an actual fight since it leaves you so open while using it
course if you had a technique that made you invulnerable to attacks that you could use at the same time its a different story
also i disagree on development this chapter really displayed Obitos state of mind well and how much he snapped seeing Rin die
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On October 10 2012 14:09 Diglett wrote: too much fighting and not enough development in this chapter imo. but i think it's cool kishi is exploring the kamui world. i guess kakashi has had ms from the beginning of naruto and used the timeskip to train it or something. still lots of questions about kakashi though. Yeah, like when was the last time Kakashi THE COPY NINJA did any copying?
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On October 10 2012 14:15 ddrddrddrddr wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 14:09 Diglett wrote: too much fighting and not enough development in this chapter imo. but i think it's cool kishi is exploring the kamui world. i guess kakashi has had ms from the beginning of naruto and used the timeskip to train it or something. still lots of questions about kakashi though. Yeah, like when was the last time Kakashi THE COPY NINJA did any copying? when was the last time he fought someone?
besides, every single person in Naruto now has there own super special jutsu only they can do like Diedaras bombs when was the last time someone even used more then one hand sign?
the classic jutsus are all dead now now its just using your special chakra to use a special jutsu only you have and can be used without handsigns
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I would prefer it if this was Kakashi actively chosing to sacrifice her to get an ace card to survive. That makes sense to me at this point anyway.
Really weird though how kakashi unlocks mangekyo much sooner than we had assumed before. Gah. I really wish kishi could show some more chapters letting us see how Kakashi became such a legend.
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