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ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2751 Posts
September 16 2012 08:56 GMT
#11261
On September 16 2012 17:02 Spicy_Curry wrote:
Wow, I guess the third member of the team needs to go evil. Pretty lame.

Sakura, Naruto, Sasuke
Tsunade, Jiraiya, Orochimaru
Rin, Kakashi, Obito

Most people only have enough love for two? :p
h41fgod
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden377 Posts
September 16 2012 09:00 GMT
#11262
On September 16 2012 17:14 Thinasy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 17:02 Spicy_Curry wrote:
Wow, I guess the third member of the team needs to go evil. Pretty lame.

Sakura, Naruto, Sasuke
Tsunade, Jiraiya, Orochimaru
Rin, Kakashi, Obito


Does this mean that Udon in Konohamaru's team will be the next Villain?

Yes. They are in the wrong order though...

Tsunade, Jiraiya, Orochimaru (natural/talent)
Rin, Kakashi, Obito (hard worker)
Sakura, Naruto, Sasuke (natural/talent)
girl, Konohamaru, Udon (hard worker(off panel or not motivated by hatred yet))
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23470 Posts
September 16 2012 10:58 GMT
#11263
Nagato had the rinnegan BEFORE jiraiya taught them I'm pretty sure. I think he just awakened the rinnegan then? Jiraiya was away madara coulda sent someone to threaten them to make him use it. I dunno
aka Teutonica
Rob-Zero
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany460 Posts
September 16 2012 11:26 GMT
#11264
And Minato became Hokage after Kakashi Gaiden.
But the rest is pretty damn right, I think.
Dark Age of Camelot - I miss you
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
September 16 2012 12:02 GMT
#11265
Im so fucking lost
Dear Sixsmith...
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 16 2012 22:30 GMT
#11266
On September 16 2012 16:15 Mataza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2012 17:37 jcvf wrote:
On September 11 2012 17:25 Aerisky wrote:
On September 11 2012 17:22 jcvf wrote:
LOL. The 5 Kages really just got off-paneled.

Maybe it's a new shounen trend! We've seen this happen several times recently in Bleach.

Man, is it really just these two that seem to do it almost...flippantly? :S


But still... I wasn't expecting Kishi to pull a Kubo-ish BS since this i-will-off-panel-you-because-i-ran-out-of-ideas trend is somewhat destroying the excitement and the majority of the readers' expectations. O_o

QFT

Situation is something like this:
Many years ago, Hashirama vs Madara takes place.
Hashirama dies, the 2nd Hokage dies, Sarutobi is 3rd Hokage.
He stays hidden, somehow gives Rinnegan to Nagato(he did give it to him or was that revised?) under the eyes of (young) Jiraya.
Years go by, Minato is 4th Hokage, Kakashi Gaiden happens.
Madara rescues Obito as gray haired old man.
Short time after Madara uses the tobi mask(has proper black hair) and fights the 4th with Kamui techniques.
Years go by, the Uchiha massacre happens and this time(going by hair) masked Obito helps Itachi kill them all.

Now: Why has the original Tobi mask only 1 eye?
It happens after Mada/Obito meet. It´s a setup for later when Obito takes over.
But this also means that Madara while alive was about evenly matched against Minato.

Afterwards?
Sometime afterward Madara dies and Obitos takes over, long since planning this plan including Madaras resurrection with Nagatos rinnegan.
But somehow, despite planning this, Obito LOSES MADARAS CORPSE. Kabuto finds it and uses edo tensei on it.

If Madara takes Obito really into the kamui dimension:
Why is Kakashi´s eye connected to the dimension if Madara taught Obito it in the first place? Seems like Sharingans have their own special ability genetically, rather than by teaching.

This checks out so far. If I missed something feel free to point out.

Obito fought Minato he jsut got a growth spurt somehow
lambchops
Profile Joined April 2011
United States63 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-17 05:27:02
September 17 2012 05:26 GMT
#11267
On September 17 2012 07:30 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 16:15 Mataza wrote:
On September 11 2012 17:37 jcvf wrote:
On September 11 2012 17:25 Aerisky wrote:
On September 11 2012 17:22 jcvf wrote:
LOL. The 5 Kages really just got off-paneled.

Maybe it's a new shounen trend! We've seen this happen several times recently in Bleach.

Man, is it really just these two that seem to do it almost...flippantly? :S


But still... I wasn't expecting Kishi to pull a Kubo-ish BS since this i-will-off-panel-you-because-i-ran-out-of-ideas trend is somewhat destroying the excitement and the majority of the readers' expectations. O_o

QFT

Situation is something like this:
Many years ago, Hashirama vs Madara takes place.
Hashirama dies, the 2nd Hokage dies, Sarutobi is 3rd Hokage.
He stays hidden, somehow gives Rinnegan to Nagato(he did give it to him or was that revised?) under the eyes of (young) Jiraya.
Years go by, Minato is 4th Hokage, Kakashi Gaiden happens.
Madara rescues Obito as gray haired old man.
Short time after Madara uses the tobi mask(has proper black hair) and fights the 4th with Kamui techniques.
Years go by, the Uchiha massacre happens and this time(going by hair) masked Obito helps Itachi kill them all.

Now: Why has the original Tobi mask only 1 eye?
It happens after Mada/Obito meet. It´s a setup for later when Obito takes over.
But this also means that Madara while alive was about evenly matched against Minato.

Afterwards?
Sometime afterward Madara dies and Obitos takes over, long since planning this plan including Madaras resurrection with Nagatos rinnegan.
But somehow, despite planning this, Obito LOSES MADARAS CORPSE. Kabuto finds it and uses edo tensei on it.

If Madara takes Obito really into the kamui dimension:
Why is Kakashi´s eye connected to the dimension if Madara taught Obito it in the first place? Seems like Sharingans have their own special ability genetically, rather than by teaching.

This checks out so far. If I missed something feel free to point out.

Obito fought Minato he jsut got a growth spurt somehow


If you think about it, one eye Kamui (same as the technique he uses now) against Minato, shortly after, Madara dies, Obito takes his left eye (the one he used for Izanagi) = profit


//by profit i mean it kind of would make sense as to where he got that sharingan for izanagi
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-17 05:36:47
September 17 2012 05:34 GMT
#11268
On September 17 2012 07:30 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 16:15 Mataza wrote:
On September 11 2012 17:37 jcvf wrote:
On September 11 2012 17:25 Aerisky wrote:
On September 11 2012 17:22 jcvf wrote:
LOL. The 5 Kages really just got off-paneled.

Maybe it's a new shounen trend! We've seen this happen several times recently in Bleach.

Man, is it really just these two that seem to do it almost...flippantly? :S


But still... I wasn't expecting Kishi to pull a Kubo-ish BS since this i-will-off-panel-you-because-i-ran-out-of-ideas trend is somewhat destroying the excitement and the majority of the readers' expectations. O_o

QFT

Situation is something like this:
Many years ago, Hashirama vs Madara takes place.
Hashirama dies, the 2nd Hokage dies, Sarutobi is 3rd Hokage.
He stays hidden, somehow gives Rinnegan to Nagato(he did give it to him or was that revised?) under the eyes of (young) Jiraya.
Years go by, Minato is 4th Hokage, Kakashi Gaiden happens.
Madara rescues Obito as gray haired old man.
Short time after Madara uses the tobi mask(has proper black hair) and fights the 4th with Kamui techniques.
Years go by, the Uchiha massacre happens and this time(going by hair) masked Obito helps Itachi kill them all.

Now: Why has the original Tobi mask only 1 eye?
It happens after Mada/Obito meet. It´s a setup for later when Obito takes over.
But this also means that Madara while alive was about evenly matched against Minato.

Afterwards?
Sometime afterward Madara dies and Obitos takes over, long since planning this plan including Madaras resurrection with Nagatos rinnegan.
But somehow, despite planning this, Obito LOSES MADARAS CORPSE. Kabuto finds it and uses edo tensei on it.

If Madara takes Obito really into the kamui dimension:
Why is Kakashi´s eye connected to the dimension if Madara taught Obito it in the first place? Seems like Sharingans have their own special ability genetically, rather than by teaching.

This checks out so far. If I missed something feel free to point out.

Obito fought Minato he jsut got a growth spurt somehow


Madara awakened Obito's puberty and subsequent teenage angst
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5714 Posts
September 17 2012 05:37 GMT
#11269
On September 17 2012 14:26 lambchops wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 07:30 Forikorder wrote:
On September 16 2012 16:15 Mataza wrote:
On September 11 2012 17:37 jcvf wrote:
On September 11 2012 17:25 Aerisky wrote:
On September 11 2012 17:22 jcvf wrote:
LOL. The 5 Kages really just got off-paneled.

Maybe it's a new shounen trend! We've seen this happen several times recently in Bleach.

Man, is it really just these two that seem to do it almost...flippantly? :S


But still... I wasn't expecting Kishi to pull a Kubo-ish BS since this i-will-off-panel-you-because-i-ran-out-of-ideas trend is somewhat destroying the excitement and the majority of the readers' expectations. O_o

QFT

Situation is something like this:
Many years ago, Hashirama vs Madara takes place.
Hashirama dies, the 2nd Hokage dies, Sarutobi is 3rd Hokage.
He stays hidden, somehow gives Rinnegan to Nagato(he did give it to him or was that revised?) under the eyes of (young) Jiraya.
Years go by, Minato is 4th Hokage, Kakashi Gaiden happens.
Madara rescues Obito as gray haired old man.
Short time after Madara uses the tobi mask(has proper black hair) and fights the 4th with Kamui techniques.
Years go by, the Uchiha massacre happens and this time(going by hair) masked Obito helps Itachi kill them all.

Now: Why has the original Tobi mask only 1 eye?
It happens after Mada/Obito meet. It´s a setup for later when Obito takes over.
But this also means that Madara while alive was about evenly matched against Minato.

Afterwards?
Sometime afterward Madara dies and Obitos takes over, long since planning this plan including Madaras resurrection with Nagatos rinnegan.
But somehow, despite planning this, Obito LOSES MADARAS CORPSE. Kabuto finds it and uses edo tensei on it.

If Madara takes Obito really into the kamui dimension:
Why is Kakashi´s eye connected to the dimension if Madara taught Obito it in the first place? Seems like Sharingans have their own special ability genetically, rather than by teaching.

This checks out so far. If I missed something feel free to point out.

Obito fought Minato he jsut got a growth spurt somehow


If you think about it, one eye Kamui (same as the technique he uses now) against Minato, shortly after, Madara dies, Obito takes his left eye (the one he used for Izanagi) = profit


//by profit i mean it kind of would make sense as to where he got that sharingan for izanagi


I see where you're going with this.

Sharigan Business Model:

1. Learn Edo Tensei.
2. Find someone with a MS who has passed away and has an available body/DNA to gather.
3. Ressurect them.
4. Remove their MS and place in appropiate jar.
5. Continually ressurect and remove MS until you have a good amount of stock.
6. Open shack in the forest and sell MS accordingly to users who go blind or use techniqes which comsume the eye.
7. ???
8. Profit, literally.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
lambchops
Profile Joined April 2011
United States63 Posts
September 17 2012 05:59 GMT
#11270
y'know, i just had a very interesting thought, remember when kakashi asked if he was dead, or where he was?

(last panel, bottom left)
http://www.mangapanda.com/93-249-14/naruto/chapter-244.html
(second panel, top left)
http://www.mangapanda.com/93-249-15/naruto/chapter-244.html


then the connection of:
http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/601/17

"did i die? where am i?"

WHAT IF: it wasn't a kakashi/obito connection, but both times those lines occured, it was obito?

DUN DUN DUNNNN
+credit to kishi if that were the case
zeropoint
Profile Joined November 2010
United States94 Posts
September 17 2012 06:03 GMT
#11271
On September 17 2012 14:59 lambchops wrote:
y'know, i just had a very interesting thought, remember when kakashi asked if he was dead, or where he was?

(last panel, bottom left)
http://www.mangapanda.com/93-249-14/naruto/chapter-244.html
(second panel, top left)
http://www.mangapanda.com/93-249-15/naruto/chapter-244.html


then the connection of:
http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/601/17

"did i die? where am i?"

WHAT IF: it wasn't a kakashi/obito connection, but both times those lines occured, it was obito?

DUN DUN DUNNNN
+credit to kishi if that were the case


That would actually be sick lol
"Keep it running, Randy." - Idra
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5714 Posts
September 17 2012 06:37 GMT
#11272
On September 17 2012 14:59 lambchops wrote:
y'know, i just had a very interesting thought, remember when kakashi asked if he was dead, or where he was?

(last panel, bottom left)
http://www.mangapanda.com/93-249-14/naruto/chapter-244.html
(second panel, top left)
http://www.mangapanda.com/93-249-15/naruto/chapter-244.html


then the connection of:
http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/601/17

"did i die? where am i?"

WHAT IF: it wasn't a kakashi/obito connection, but both times those lines occured, it was obito?

DUN DUN DUNNNN
+credit to kishi if that were the case


If thats true then Kishi had this all planned out so far in advance and who knows what other panels he hid like that.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
ddrddrddrddr
Profile Joined August 2010
1344 Posts
September 17 2012 06:50 GMT
#11273
Someone should dig up the raws and verify first that the wordings are actually identical originally.
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
September 17 2012 07:00 GMT
#11274
you guys are silly
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 17 2012 22:09 GMT
#11275
On September 17 2012 14:37 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 14:26 lambchops wrote:
On September 17 2012 07:30 Forikorder wrote:
On September 16 2012 16:15 Mataza wrote:
On September 11 2012 17:37 jcvf wrote:
On September 11 2012 17:25 Aerisky wrote:
On September 11 2012 17:22 jcvf wrote:
LOL. The 5 Kages really just got off-paneled.

Maybe it's a new shounen trend! We've seen this happen several times recently in Bleach.

Man, is it really just these two that seem to do it almost...flippantly? :S


But still... I wasn't expecting Kishi to pull a Kubo-ish BS since this i-will-off-panel-you-because-i-ran-out-of-ideas trend is somewhat destroying the excitement and the majority of the readers' expectations. O_o

QFT

Situation is something like this:
Many years ago, Hashirama vs Madara takes place.
Hashirama dies, the 2nd Hokage dies, Sarutobi is 3rd Hokage.
He stays hidden, somehow gives Rinnegan to Nagato(he did give it to him or was that revised?) under the eyes of (young) Jiraya.
Years go by, Minato is 4th Hokage, Kakashi Gaiden happens.
Madara rescues Obito as gray haired old man.
Short time after Madara uses the tobi mask(has proper black hair) and fights the 4th with Kamui techniques.
Years go by, the Uchiha massacre happens and this time(going by hair) masked Obito helps Itachi kill them all.

Now: Why has the original Tobi mask only 1 eye?
It happens after Mada/Obito meet. It´s a setup for later when Obito takes over.
But this also means that Madara while alive was about evenly matched against Minato.

Afterwards?
Sometime afterward Madara dies and Obitos takes over, long since planning this plan including Madaras resurrection with Nagatos rinnegan.
But somehow, despite planning this, Obito LOSES MADARAS CORPSE. Kabuto finds it and uses edo tensei on it.

If Madara takes Obito really into the kamui dimension:
Why is Kakashi´s eye connected to the dimension if Madara taught Obito it in the first place? Seems like Sharingans have their own special ability genetically, rather than by teaching.

This checks out so far. If I missed something feel free to point out.

Obito fought Minato he jsut got a growth spurt somehow


If you think about it, one eye Kamui (same as the technique he uses now) against Minato, shortly after, Madara dies, Obito takes his left eye (the one he used for Izanagi) = profit


//by profit i mean it kind of would make sense as to where he got that sharingan for izanagi


I see where you're going with this.

Sharigan Business Model:

1. Learn Edo Tensei.
2. Find someone with a MS who has passed away and has an available body/DNA to gather.
3. Ressurect them.
4. Remove their MS and place in appropiate jar.
5. Continually ressurect and remove MS until you have a good amount of stock.
6. Open shack in the forest and sell MS accordingly to users who go blind or use techniqes which comsume the eye.
7. ???
8. Profit, literally.

the eyes would turn back to dust as soon as you removed them from the person... there bodies arent made of flesh and blood, its dust forced into a similar apearence
Fawkes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1935 Posts
September 19 2012 06:23 GMT
#11276
Story telling time. Who's left eye does he actually have right now?
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 06:35:35
September 19 2012 06:35 GMT
#11277
Say, what was that connection between Hashirama and that Mazou, exactly?

edit: http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/602/
Azuzu
Profile Joined August 2010
United States340 Posts
September 19 2012 06:35 GMT
#11278
On September 13 2012 12:12 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 02:48 fenrysk wrote:
well guys, if you haven't done so already after Obito's reveal, brace yourselves for kishimoto's flashback no jutsu.

+ Show Spoiler +
and it kinda sucks that the kage are dying/dead, but i guess the people complaining that there aren't enough notable casualties will be satisfied. Garra will probably survive due to him being younger generation ninja, and the manga's theme of the younger surpassing the old.

all the Kages but Tsunade is going to survive, Tsunade might also pull through with some will of fire, she saids she has enough Chakra to heal the Kages


Or all the kages can die so Naruto can achieve his goal of becoming the Ninja King.
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
September 19 2012 06:39 GMT
#11279
On September 19 2012 15:35 Azuzu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 12:12 Forikorder wrote:
On September 13 2012 02:48 fenrysk wrote:
well guys, if you haven't done so already after Obito's reveal, brace yourselves for kishimoto's flashback no jutsu.

+ Show Spoiler +
and it kinda sucks that the kage are dying/dead, but i guess the people complaining that there aren't enough notable casualties will be satisfied. Garra will probably survive due to him being younger generation ninja, and the manga's theme of the younger surpassing the old.

all the Kages but Tsunade is going to survive, Tsunade might also pull through with some will of fire, she saids she has enough Chakra to heal the Kages


Or all the kages can die so Naruto can achieve his goal of becoming the Ninja King.

His name is Naruto, not Luffy
Wrathsc2
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2025 Posts
September 19 2012 06:39 GMT
#11280
well taht was boring
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