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On September 16 2012 17:02 Spicy_Curry wrote: Wow, I guess the third member of the team needs to go evil. Pretty lame.
Sakura, Naruto, Sasuke Tsunade, Jiraiya, Orochimaru Rin, Kakashi, Obito Most people only have enough love for two? :p
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On September 16 2012 17:14 Thinasy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2012 17:02 Spicy_Curry wrote: Wow, I guess the third member of the team needs to go evil. Pretty lame.
Sakura, Naruto, Sasuke Tsunade, Jiraiya, Orochimaru Rin, Kakashi, Obito Does this mean that Udon in Konohamaru's team will be the next Villain? Yes. They are in the wrong order though...
Tsunade, Jiraiya, Orochimaru (natural/talent) Rin, Kakashi, Obito (hard worker) Sakura, Naruto, Sasuke (natural/talent) girl, Konohamaru, Udon (hard worker(off panel or not motivated by hatred yet))
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Nagato had the rinnegan BEFORE jiraiya taught them I'm pretty sure. I think he just awakened the rinnegan then? Jiraiya was away madara coulda sent someone to threaten them to make him use it. I dunno
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And Minato became Hokage after Kakashi Gaiden. But the rest is pretty damn right, I think.
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On September 16 2012 16:15 Mataza wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2012 17:37 jcvf wrote:On September 11 2012 17:25 Aerisky wrote:On September 11 2012 17:22 jcvf wrote: LOL. The 5 Kages really just got off-paneled. Maybe it's a new shounen trend! We've seen this happen several times recently in Bleach. Man, is it really just these two that seem to do it almost...flippantly? :S But still... I wasn't expecting Kishi to pull a Kubo-ish BS since this i-will-off-panel-you-because-i-ran-out-of-ideas trend is somewhat destroying the excitement and the majority of the readers' expectations. O_o QFT Situation is something like this: Many years ago, Hashirama vs Madara takes place. Hashirama dies, the 2nd Hokage dies, Sarutobi is 3rd Hokage. He stays hidden, somehow gives Rinnegan to Nagato(he did give it to him or was that revised?) under the eyes of (young) Jiraya. Years go by, Minato is 4th Hokage, Kakashi Gaiden happens. Madara rescues Obito as gray haired old man. Short time after Madara uses the tobi mask(has proper black hair) and fights the 4th with Kamui techniques. Years go by, the Uchiha massacre happens and this time(going by hair) masked Obito helps Itachi kill them all. Now: Why has the original Tobi mask only 1 eye? It happens after Mada/Obito meet. It´s a setup for later when Obito takes over. But this also means that Madara while alive was about evenly matched against Minato. Afterwards? Sometime afterward Madara dies and Obitos takes over, long since planning this plan including Madaras resurrection with Nagatos rinnegan. But somehow, despite planning this, Obito LOSES MADARAS CORPSE. Kabuto finds it and uses edo tensei on it. If Madara takes Obito really into the kamui dimension: Why is Kakashi´s eye connected to the dimension if Madara taught Obito it in the first place? Seems like Sharingans have their own special ability genetically, rather than by teaching. This checks out so far. If I missed something feel free to point out. Obito fought Minato he jsut got a growth spurt somehow
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On September 17 2012 07:30 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2012 16:15 Mataza wrote:On September 11 2012 17:37 jcvf wrote:On September 11 2012 17:25 Aerisky wrote:On September 11 2012 17:22 jcvf wrote: LOL. The 5 Kages really just got off-paneled. Maybe it's a new shounen trend! We've seen this happen several times recently in Bleach. Man, is it really just these two that seem to do it almost...flippantly? :S But still... I wasn't expecting Kishi to pull a Kubo-ish BS since this i-will-off-panel-you-because-i-ran-out-of-ideas trend is somewhat destroying the excitement and the majority of the readers' expectations. O_o QFT Situation is something like this: Many years ago, Hashirama vs Madara takes place. Hashirama dies, the 2nd Hokage dies, Sarutobi is 3rd Hokage. He stays hidden, somehow gives Rinnegan to Nagato(he did give it to him or was that revised?) under the eyes of (young) Jiraya. Years go by, Minato is 4th Hokage, Kakashi Gaiden happens. Madara rescues Obito as gray haired old man. Short time after Madara uses the tobi mask(has proper black hair) and fights the 4th with Kamui techniques. Years go by, the Uchiha massacre happens and this time(going by hair) masked Obito helps Itachi kill them all. Now: Why has the original Tobi mask only 1 eye? It happens after Mada/Obito meet. It´s a setup for later when Obito takes over. But this also means that Madara while alive was about evenly matched against Minato. Afterwards? Sometime afterward Madara dies and Obitos takes over, long since planning this plan including Madaras resurrection with Nagatos rinnegan. But somehow, despite planning this, Obito LOSES MADARAS CORPSE. Kabuto finds it and uses edo tensei on it. If Madara takes Obito really into the kamui dimension: Why is Kakashi´s eye connected to the dimension if Madara taught Obito it in the first place? Seems like Sharingans have their own special ability genetically, rather than by teaching. This checks out so far. If I missed something feel free to point out. Obito fought Minato he jsut got a growth spurt somehow
If you think about it, one eye Kamui (same as the technique he uses now) against Minato, shortly after, Madara dies, Obito takes his left eye (the one he used for Izanagi) = profit
//by profit i mean it kind of would make sense as to where he got that sharingan for izanagi
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On September 17 2012 07:30 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2012 16:15 Mataza wrote:On September 11 2012 17:37 jcvf wrote:On September 11 2012 17:25 Aerisky wrote:On September 11 2012 17:22 jcvf wrote: LOL. The 5 Kages really just got off-paneled. Maybe it's a new shounen trend! We've seen this happen several times recently in Bleach. Man, is it really just these two that seem to do it almost...flippantly? :S But still... I wasn't expecting Kishi to pull a Kubo-ish BS since this i-will-off-panel-you-because-i-ran-out-of-ideas trend is somewhat destroying the excitement and the majority of the readers' expectations. O_o QFT Situation is something like this: Many years ago, Hashirama vs Madara takes place. Hashirama dies, the 2nd Hokage dies, Sarutobi is 3rd Hokage. He stays hidden, somehow gives Rinnegan to Nagato(he did give it to him or was that revised?) under the eyes of (young) Jiraya. Years go by, Minato is 4th Hokage, Kakashi Gaiden happens. Madara rescues Obito as gray haired old man. Short time after Madara uses the tobi mask(has proper black hair) and fights the 4th with Kamui techniques. Years go by, the Uchiha massacre happens and this time(going by hair) masked Obito helps Itachi kill them all. Now: Why has the original Tobi mask only 1 eye? It happens after Mada/Obito meet. It´s a setup for later when Obito takes over. But this also means that Madara while alive was about evenly matched against Minato. Afterwards? Sometime afterward Madara dies and Obitos takes over, long since planning this plan including Madaras resurrection with Nagatos rinnegan. But somehow, despite planning this, Obito LOSES MADARAS CORPSE. Kabuto finds it and uses edo tensei on it. If Madara takes Obito really into the kamui dimension: Why is Kakashi´s eye connected to the dimension if Madara taught Obito it in the first place? Seems like Sharingans have their own special ability genetically, rather than by teaching. This checks out so far. If I missed something feel free to point out. Obito fought Minato he jsut got a growth spurt somehow
Madara awakened Obito's puberty and subsequent teenage angst
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On September 17 2012 14:26 lambchops wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2012 07:30 Forikorder wrote:On September 16 2012 16:15 Mataza wrote:On September 11 2012 17:37 jcvf wrote:On September 11 2012 17:25 Aerisky wrote:On September 11 2012 17:22 jcvf wrote: LOL. The 5 Kages really just got off-paneled. Maybe it's a new shounen trend! We've seen this happen several times recently in Bleach. Man, is it really just these two that seem to do it almost...flippantly? :S But still... I wasn't expecting Kishi to pull a Kubo-ish BS since this i-will-off-panel-you-because-i-ran-out-of-ideas trend is somewhat destroying the excitement and the majority of the readers' expectations. O_o QFT Situation is something like this: Many years ago, Hashirama vs Madara takes place. Hashirama dies, the 2nd Hokage dies, Sarutobi is 3rd Hokage. He stays hidden, somehow gives Rinnegan to Nagato(he did give it to him or was that revised?) under the eyes of (young) Jiraya. Years go by, Minato is 4th Hokage, Kakashi Gaiden happens. Madara rescues Obito as gray haired old man. Short time after Madara uses the tobi mask(has proper black hair) and fights the 4th with Kamui techniques. Years go by, the Uchiha massacre happens and this time(going by hair) masked Obito helps Itachi kill them all. Now: Why has the original Tobi mask only 1 eye? It happens after Mada/Obito meet. It´s a setup for later when Obito takes over. But this also means that Madara while alive was about evenly matched against Minato. Afterwards? Sometime afterward Madara dies and Obitos takes over, long since planning this plan including Madaras resurrection with Nagatos rinnegan. But somehow, despite planning this, Obito LOSES MADARAS CORPSE. Kabuto finds it and uses edo tensei on it. If Madara takes Obito really into the kamui dimension: Why is Kakashi´s eye connected to the dimension if Madara taught Obito it in the first place? Seems like Sharingans have their own special ability genetically, rather than by teaching. This checks out so far. If I missed something feel free to point out. Obito fought Minato he jsut got a growth spurt somehow If you think about it, one eye Kamui (same as the technique he uses now) against Minato, shortly after, Madara dies, Obito takes his left eye (the one he used for Izanagi) = profit //by profit i mean it kind of would make sense as to where he got that sharingan for izanagi
I see where you're going with this.
Sharigan Business Model:
1. Learn Edo Tensei. 2. Find someone with a MS who has passed away and has an available body/DNA to gather. 3. Ressurect them. 4. Remove their MS and place in appropiate jar. 5. Continually ressurect and remove MS until you have a good amount of stock. 6. Open shack in the forest and sell MS accordingly to users who go blind or use techniqes which comsume the eye. 7. ??? 8. Profit, literally.
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That would actually be sick lol
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If thats true then Kishi had this all planned out so far in advance and who knows what other panels he hid like that.
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Someone should dig up the raws and verify first that the wordings are actually identical originally.
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On September 17 2012 14:37 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2012 14:26 lambchops wrote:On September 17 2012 07:30 Forikorder wrote:On September 16 2012 16:15 Mataza wrote:On September 11 2012 17:37 jcvf wrote:On September 11 2012 17:25 Aerisky wrote:On September 11 2012 17:22 jcvf wrote: LOL. The 5 Kages really just got off-paneled. Maybe it's a new shounen trend! We've seen this happen several times recently in Bleach. Man, is it really just these two that seem to do it almost...flippantly? :S But still... I wasn't expecting Kishi to pull a Kubo-ish BS since this i-will-off-panel-you-because-i-ran-out-of-ideas trend is somewhat destroying the excitement and the majority of the readers' expectations. O_o QFT Situation is something like this: Many years ago, Hashirama vs Madara takes place. Hashirama dies, the 2nd Hokage dies, Sarutobi is 3rd Hokage. He stays hidden, somehow gives Rinnegan to Nagato(he did give it to him or was that revised?) under the eyes of (young) Jiraya. Years go by, Minato is 4th Hokage, Kakashi Gaiden happens. Madara rescues Obito as gray haired old man. Short time after Madara uses the tobi mask(has proper black hair) and fights the 4th with Kamui techniques. Years go by, the Uchiha massacre happens and this time(going by hair) masked Obito helps Itachi kill them all. Now: Why has the original Tobi mask only 1 eye? It happens after Mada/Obito meet. It´s a setup for later when Obito takes over. But this also means that Madara while alive was about evenly matched against Minato. Afterwards? Sometime afterward Madara dies and Obitos takes over, long since planning this plan including Madaras resurrection with Nagatos rinnegan. But somehow, despite planning this, Obito LOSES MADARAS CORPSE. Kabuto finds it and uses edo tensei on it. If Madara takes Obito really into the kamui dimension: Why is Kakashi´s eye connected to the dimension if Madara taught Obito it in the first place? Seems like Sharingans have their own special ability genetically, rather than by teaching. This checks out so far. If I missed something feel free to point out. Obito fought Minato he jsut got a growth spurt somehow If you think about it, one eye Kamui (same as the technique he uses now) against Minato, shortly after, Madara dies, Obito takes his left eye (the one he used for Izanagi) = profit //by profit i mean it kind of would make sense as to where he got that sharingan for izanagi I see where you're going with this. Sharigan Business Model: 1. Learn Edo Tensei. 2. Find someone with a MS who has passed away and has an available body/DNA to gather. 3. Ressurect them. 4. Remove their MS and place in appropiate jar. 5. Continually ressurect and remove MS until you have a good amount of stock. 6. Open shack in the forest and sell MS accordingly to users who go blind or use techniqes which comsume the eye. 7. ??? 8. Profit, literally. the eyes would turn back to dust as soon as you removed them from the person... there bodies arent made of flesh and blood, its dust forced into a similar apearence
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Story telling time. Who's left eye does he actually have right now?
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On September 13 2012 12:12 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 02:48 fenrysk wrote:well guys, if you haven't done so already after Obito's reveal, brace yourselves for kishimoto's flashback no jutsu. + Show Spoiler +and it kinda sucks that the kage are dying/dead, but i guess the people complaining that there aren't enough notable casualties will be satisfied. Garra will probably survive due to him being younger generation ninja, and the manga's theme of the younger surpassing the old. all the Kages but Tsunade is going to survive, Tsunade might also pull through with some will of fire, she saids she has enough Chakra to heal the Kages
Or all the kages can die so Naruto can achieve his goal of becoming the Ninja King.
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On September 19 2012 15:35 Azuzu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 12:12 Forikorder wrote:On September 13 2012 02:48 fenrysk wrote:well guys, if you haven't done so already after Obito's reveal, brace yourselves for kishimoto's flashback no jutsu. + Show Spoiler +and it kinda sucks that the kage are dying/dead, but i guess the people complaining that there aren't enough notable casualties will be satisfied. Garra will probably survive due to him being younger generation ninja, and the manga's theme of the younger surpassing the old. all the Kages but Tsunade is going to survive, Tsunade might also pull through with some will of fire, she saids she has enough Chakra to heal the Kages Or all the kages can die so Naruto can achieve his goal of becoming the Ninja King. His name is Naruto, not Luffy
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